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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is the audio podcast version of my forty-third newsletter, with the title On the return ferry. In it, I read aloud reflections on the meals I ate on a ferry from the Netherlands to the Essex coast, and give eating notes for nine breakfasts.
News and Events
I am speaking to Nyla Ahmad at the Edinburgh International Book Festival on 17th August â tickets here â https://www.edbookfest.co.uk/the-festival/whats-on/rebecca-may-johnson-kitchen-confessional
The UK paperback of Small Fires will be published on 1 September, with a new afterword and recipes. Tour details coming soonâŠ!
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is the audio podcast version of my forty-second newsletter, with the title Fischbrötchen in Lubmin. In it, I read aloud reflections on a trip to the Baltic coast, and give several recipes â for a BLT salad and a meal with Piedmontese peppers.
News and Events
I am speaking to Nyla Ahmad at the Edinburgh International Book Festival on 17th August â tickets here â https://www.edbookfest.co.uk/the-festival/whats-on/rebecca-may-johnson-kitchen-confessional
The UK paperback of Small Fires will be published on 1 September, with a new afterword and recipes. Tour details coming soonâŠ!
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is the audio podcast version of my forty-first newsletter, with the title Canteen on the Stena Hollandica. In it, I read aloud reflections on a trip on a ferry from the UK to the Netherlands and eating notes.
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is the audio podcast version of my fortieth newsletter, with the title No Exit at the Supermarket. In it, I read aloud reflections on supermarket doors and eating notes from a trip to Paris.
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is the audio podcast version of my thirty-ninth newsletter, with the title âOut of Orderâ in New York. In it, I read aloud reflections pie, coffee, and bathrooms in New York, and an instalment of eating notes from New York.
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is the audio podcast version of my thirty-eighth newsletter, with the title Two Dishes at Home. In it, I read aloud reflections on two dishes cooked at home with recipes, and my seed purchases and plans.
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is the audio podcast version of my thirty-seventh newsletter, with the title Killing the Vibe at the Dump/Barriers to Entry. In it, I read aloud reflections on a new regime at the town dump, menus, recipes, and eating notes. You can also listen on Apple podcasts and Spotify.
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is the audio podcast version of my thirty-sixth newsletter, with the title A small pot of cream. In it, I read aloud reflections on cream, two recipes and eating notes. You can also listen on Apple podcasts and Spotify.
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is the audio podcast version of my thirty-fifth newsletter, with the title In the bar. In it, I read aloud an account of visiting the bar at St John in London, several recipes, and eating notes. You can also listen in Apple podcasts and Spotify.
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is the audio podcast version of my thirty-fourth newsletter, with the title In Paris; At the dump. In it, I read aloud an account of a meal in Paris, a trip to the town dump, a recipe for smoked haddock with a rich sauce and steamed vegetables, and eating notes. You can also listen via Apple podcasts and Spotify.
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is the audio podcast version of my thirty-third newsletter, with the title Columbo in Rome. In it, I read aloud an account of a TV dinner with Columbo, eating notes, listening and reading notes. You can also find it on Apple podcasts and Spotify.
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is the audio podcast version of my thirty-second newsletter, with the title Holiday Salad. In it, I read aloud some diary entries about eating Rome, on cooking leftovers, and cooking âscarola in padellaâ, and share my eating notes.
US listeners! You can now pre-order my book Small Fires, An Epic in the Kitchen. It is being released on June 6 this year!
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is the audio podcast version of my thirty-first newsletter, with the title New Year Lentils. In it, I read aloud a diary entry about a morning in Rome, writer about cooking lentils from Rachel Roddyâs book Five Quarters, and share my eating notes.
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is the audio podcast version of my thirtieth newsletter, with the title May in October. In it I read aloud a diary entry about May in October on the allotment, a recipe for a comforting dish that brought about a useful regression, and eating notes.
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is the audio podcast version of my twenty-ninth newsletter, with the title New Old Lunch. In it I read aloud a diary entry about a new old lunch, a recipe for one of the best pasta sauces Iâve made (pumpkin and roasting juices from a chicken), and eating notes from the week. I also shared a playlist for my book.
*Exciting news!* SMALL FIRES, AN EPIC IN THE KITCHEN will be launched in the US from late spring 2023. You can pre-order here!
You can read reviews of Small Fires in The Observer, The Sunday Times, the i Paper and The New Statesman. I read from it on BBC Radio 3, too!
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is my is the audio podcast version of my twenty-eighth newsletter, with the title Whisky and Peanuts. In it I read aloud a note whisky and peanuts, ask what a body is for, give recipes the meal of sausages in tomato sauce rice and pumpkin, and eating notes.
My first book SMALL FIRES, AN EPIC IN THE KITCHEN was published just over a month ago. The book received reviews in The Observer, The Sunday Times, the i Paper and The New Statesman. I read from it on BBC Radio 3 last week.
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is my is the audio podcast version of my twenty-seventh newsletter, with the title Fridges and Sweets. In it I read aloud a note on reading Moyra Davey, diary entries about selling sweets and Hagelslag, two recipes for one and many, and eating notes.
My first book SMALL FIRES, AN EPIC IN THE KITCHEN was published a few weeks ago. It has received reviews in The Observer, The Sunday Times, the i Paper and The New Statesman if youâd like to read about it.
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is my is the audio podcast version of my twenty-sixth newsletter, with the title Recipes in the lobby. In it I read aloud a diary entry about being given recipes when Iâd been forgotten in a lobby, a new favourite recipe cooked after my friend Angela made it for me, and eating notes. You can also find the podcast on Apple and Spotify.
My first book SMALL FIRES, AN EPIC IN THE KITCHEN was published just over a week ago. The book has received some wonderful reviews in The Observer, The Sunday Times, the i Paper and The New Statesman. Thank you for supporting the book!
***Bookmark and Poster Giveaway!***
Pushkin Press have given me 2 posters and 10 bookmarks to give away to people reading Small Fires. They have the beautiful marbled red background of the cover and say: COOKING IS THINKING. Share a photo of your copy on Twitter or Instagram stories tagging @Pushkin_Press or if you would prefer, email the pic to [email protected] with âsmall fires competitionâ in the subject. Weâll choose winners and send the bookmarks and posters out.
I am going on tour in the next few months, if youâre interested in these events tickets are available via the venues, which I will share via social media, or you can look up online. Theyâll be lots of fun and I have some wonderful conversation partners lined up.
Pieces published over the last week or so (free to read):
On Not Cooking in Rome, in The London Magazine (lots of pizza!)
On Appreciating Culinary Beef - and Tomato Sandwiches, in The Guardian
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is my is the audio podcast version of my twenty-fifth newsletter, with the title Lunch performance, with a baby. In it I read aloud a diary entry about a baby in a restaurant, recipes for salad and sorbet, and eating notes.
My first book SMALL FIRES, AN EPIC IN THE KITCHEN is published today!! You should be able to find it in bookshops in the UK, or can order it online here (UK, US, & Europe). The book received some wonderful reviews in the last few weeks in The Observer, The Sunday Times and the i Paper, if youâd like to read more about it.
Lots of events on the horizon all over the UK, too, so I hope to get to chat to some of you soon and a mini giveaway for people who have the book to be announced next week.
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Hello! My name is Rebecca May Johnson, I am a writer and cook and this is my Substack. After 24 newsletters (& audio versions) I realised that I need a short break. As I am going to be spending several days on a self-directed residency of sorts at a branch of IKEA this coming week, I thought Iâd send out a newly recorded audio version of an essay about canteens I wrote a couple of years ago, with the text below, too. Originally published via TinyLetter in 2019.
Back to regular weekly service in two weeks.
If youâd like to pre-order my book SMALL FIRES, AN EPIC IN THE KITCHEN out 25th August with Pushkin Press, you can do so here (UK) and here (UK, US, & Europe).
I Dream of Canteens
Hospitality, Massness & Calorie Density
Space There is a space for everyone. A space, a glass of water, and a plug socket. Chairs and tables and cleaned toilets. So many chairs so that no one is without one. Enough napkins to blow your nose or wipe your mouth. The chairs take different forms and there are chairs placed in designated areas (a praxis of positive discrimination). High and low chairs create a varied landscape and the opportunity to avoid eye contact if wished (privacy); low, brightly coloured plastic chairs are a good height for children; there is an area reserved for people who want to breastfeed without negotiating the uncomfortable gaze of uncomfortable men if they donât want to. An adequately equipped counter allows people to warm up baby food or homemade food and this acknowledges that babies exist and that people who bring their own food exist and that these people need space to eat, too. Stacks of trays, clean and ready to use, are placed at the start of the queue for food. Some trays can be placed onto Zimmer-frame-like devices on wheels with shelves for trays so that people for whom mobility is challenging, or people with children, or people who need multiple plates, can lean on it while queuing and place food on it without having to bear the weight of the tray. Food is cheap. I can afford it and everyone else here can afford to buy it for themselves and their child without anxiety. There are no instances of that tightening around the throat when you do not have the money to buy food, but you are hungry and in a place that serves it. For those who have more money the price is a joyful novelty; for those who have less, the prices are a blessed relief that allows eating to take place. The food is as cheap as fried chicken shops and like the meals served in fried chicken shops the food here has enough calorie density to sustain a child or an adult for a good while. Most people put their used trays that are covered in crumbs and licked plates in the designated area for used trays, and pick up all of their soiled napkins. Most people do not leave the remains of their lunch on the tables, even though there are no signs telling them not to do so. Furthermore, there are enough staff so that too much rubbish never builds up and also, staff are not overburdened or racing around, stressed and exhausted.
Time
There is also time for everyone. No one is asked to leave and no one feels anxious about out-staying their welcome. Of course people do leave, but still, staying is not suspicious. No laminated signs about leaving or staying or eating food bought here or elsewhere are on the tables or the walls. Indeed, in the fine Western tradition of hospitality that dates back to Homerâs epics ~xenia ~ no one who is hosted here will be asked to leave and everyone will be fed and watered and allowed to wash without question. No body becomes abject and disgusting through staying and crossing over an ambiguous but clearly defined boundary of time and space (at least not during opening hours). Such provision allows the existence of privacy in public, that is, if privacy is defined as the ability to be present without being suspected of anything. The causes of suspicion in London in 2019 are principally, to have no money, along with the constantly evolving intersectional biopolitics that make skin colour, gender, sexuality and religion causes for anxiety when in public. Unlike in Homerâs Odyssey, there will be no massacre if people stay longer than they should or have more free refills than is calculated to be ideal. After all, some people donât take a free refill at all. In other places, say, in small and charming yet inefficient and expensive independent coffee shops where the rent and running costs mean that spending a short time and a large sum is essential, there is an unwritten-but-clearly-defined time limit that induces anxiety in everyone (owner, worker, customer). This time limit is present even though the wages are the lowest they can be and workers are sent home during fallow periods. Also, in the clean grey square around Kingâs Cross staying for too long will certainly elicit the discomforting gaze of a private security guard: what reasons for standing still or sitting down, if not spending? Or that is how it feels sometimes. In these places and in most places now, the body begins to cross over into a state of abjection the longer the period of time spent since spending money. Pleasure I began by describing some of the characteristics of the canteens in one out-of-town and one suburban branch of IKEA that I visited recently in Reading and Croydon. I am under no illusion as to why IKEA have canteens in their shops: the shops are huge and exhausting to navigate. Providing comfortable and affordable sustenance makes a visit bearable and even very fun. IKEA use canteens to show how generous, hospitable and socially magnanimous they are: a living vision of what they sell you. At both IKEA canteens I experienced high levels of pleasure when eating and sitting and I witnessed many others who seemed to feel the same. I tried different dishes on the three occasions that I ate there: meatballs with chips and various sauces, a sweet tart, a prawn salad, vegetarian balls with bulghur wheat pilaf, a yogurt, several slices of garlic bread, cheesecake, coffee, elderflower cordial, fizzy apple. I ate all of the food, there was nothing I disliked and yet there were more things on the short menu that I wanted to try but didnât. If such a place existed in the city, I would go there every day. It is telling that while there are no public canteens in the city (what council could now afford to hang on to such a quantity of land after cuts?), the houses of parliament have ten canteens. The idea that mass catering must be devoid of pleasure is false. The levels of pleasure derived from eating a meal or drinking a drink without the anxieties of restricted time and space and money can be great indeed. The levels of pleasure derived from food prepared from canned and frozen ingredients can also be great indeed. In her book How to Cook a Wolf the American food writer from the mid-twentieth century, MFK Fisher discusses the virtues of canned and frozen vegetables and sets out her recipe for petit pois Ă la Française with frozen peas; likewise in her book The Food of Italy, Claudia Roden confesses to always buying frozen artichoke hearts for her recipes that use them and Ruth Rogers, co-founder of The River CafĂ© makes tomato sauce for guests using a tin of tomatoes from a recipe by Marcella Hazan. Likewise, the food served in the IKEA canteen and many other canteens whose food I have enjoyed, takes advantage of innovations such as freezing and canning to provide a high volume of food with little wastage. Frozen and canned vegetables are picked at the peak of their season when they are plentiful and prices are at their lowest. The same cannot be said of imported fruit and vegetables that remain unripe weeks after being picked and often rot without ever ripening to an acceptably edible point. Compare a fresh, uncooked tomato in January, or a tin of cooked tomatoes harvested in August in Italy. Those from the tin are cheaper, sweeter, more delicious. Hiding In most weeks of the ten years I have spent London I long for such well-managed massness and hospitality and affordable and appealing, calorie-dense food such as I experienced in the IKEA canteen and in a few other places: the Indian YMCA canteen in Fitzrovia; the canteen in the Muslim World League on Charlotte Street; McDonalds everywhere; at a Tamil funeral where catering was done by a caterer who could feed âfrom 10 to 10, 000â; the university canteen. For example, I have longed for the hospitality of a good canteen on the hundreds of occasions that I have cowered and sat on the cold stone floors around the British Library so that I can eat food I have brought from home using stolen plastic cutlery, or summed up the courage to buy a tea and brazenly but shamefully eaten my own food in the library restaurant seating where there are clearly displayed signs saying that the seats are for patrons only. Hiding oneâs body and oneâs lack of money has become part of survival in London. I have hidden sandwiches or hidden myself where I should buy before sitting in places all over town: havenât you? Last summer a woman nervously approached me while I ate a cheeseburger in McDonalds near The British Library to ask for the tokens attached to my coffee cup so that she could get a free coffee and then I watched her fill it with as many free sachets of sugar as was required to achieve an intake of calories that might sustain her life for one more day â a sugar-sachet black market that casts a long shadow on Londonâs status as a gastronomic destination. I have seen queues outside food banks and the arrival of food donation boxes outside supermarkets. The government allows effective starvation to proliferate without lifting a finger. The streets of the city no longer acknowledge the perpetual motion of the gut and the bladder that is part of every human life. The Victorians knew about guts even if they didnât know about women having the vote, and their underground lavatories have become coffee shops with no lavatories. A moving moment of hospitality (xenia) that I experienced recently, happened after I knocked on the door of the cleaning attendant for the public lavatory in Peterborough; he released the barrier for me without question, even though I did not have the necessary 20p. Such moments of resistance are reassuring and suggest the will for a different situation to the impoverishment of municipal hospitality that increasingly defines public space. British Restaurants Seeing a book I had in hand but had not yet read, called Slice of Life, The British Way of Eating Since 1945, a security guard in the British Library let me know that she knew about mass hospitality, about the provision of canteens for all â and not the one where she worked now. âThat book must talk about British Restaurants, thenâ, she said. I said: âwhat are they?â She said that when rationing was going on and there wasnât enough food during the war the government set up âBritish Restaurantsâ to serve cheap hot food for everyone so that people had enough to eat, things like semolina and stew â she could just remember the smell. It was in the 1950s or 1960s. They were for workers and ordinary people and children, she said. She used to go when she was at school in Red Hill in Surrey, and they had died out by the time she went to secondary school. She said yes, the food wasnât too bad and they were really cheap. She was very keen to tell me about the British Restaurants, very excited; she remembered them fondly. I tried to imagine a British Restaurant now, a government-backed scheme to make sure all comers were fed as a matter of the greatest national importance: I couldnât. When I spoke to the security guard, Iâd just that day found out that while the British Library restaurant does continue to serve filter coffee, its cheapest offering, the new caterer (the third in ten years as none of the private companies can make it work) no longer advertise it, only displaying prices for more expensive coffees, alongside ÂŁ17 hot mains and ÂŁ5 cakes. It has phased out filter coffee by now. Then I looked in my book and found that the British Restaurants served nutritionally balanced meals (according to contemporary science) and had libraries and fresh flowers on the tables and gramophones and pianos and felt as if I were reading about a utopian vision of the future like I would see in a science fiction film. Further research in the Mass Observation Archives shows numerous interviews with people who felt delighted at feeling so full, that the food was hot. British Restaurants served 50 million meals a week in 1945. Lord Woolton, the conservative minister for food, who had asked a socialist friend he knew to design the state-subsidised canteens, called them âone of the greatest social revolutions that has taken place in the industry of our countryâ. Discussions were had in parliament about how the canteens produced astonishing improvements in workersâ wellbeing. After the war Conservatives dismissed them in parliament because they werenât making profit. The canteens were allowed to decline, then disappear. Now food deserts and food banks proliferate and people do not have enough food to live. It is a strange situation that, as food poverty surges, we forget that we built canteens, once. The wartime memory of eating that has been encouraged to survive is of rationing, of lack, but for many people, there had never been so much hot, filling food. A seat, a table, a glass of water, a plate of food with the calorie density to sustain a life for a good while; the space and the time in which to unfold. I dream of canteens.
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