Episodes
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Kia ora e te whanÄu. Please join Matt in welcoming the new co-hosts of Dirt Church Radio, Ali Pottinger and Andrew McDowall. Both have been regulars on DCR for some time now, so it should be little surprise that Matt would reach out to them to join him in the next chapter of Aotearoaâs third favourite forest-based running podcast. Both bring a wealth of experience to the table, are community-minded, and love a good yarn. This is going to be sweet-as. This week we learn a bit about Ali and Andrewâs backstory, what they are excited about, the races theyâve run, and their upcoming jaunts to the Snowy Mountains. Ali and Matt are heartened that Andrew may just be human after all, how much it sucks to run a marathon, and why Andrew would even need microspikes to run Coast to Kosci, heâs an Aucklander. Dirt Church Radio - Best Enjoyed Running
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Kia ora e te whÄnau! Dirt Church Radio presents to you their 300th show! This is special because we spoke to the legend that is Dr Inia Raumati about his foundation Kia Mau Kia ora and the logistics behind his goal to be the first person in the world to to 8 stage races on 8 continents in one year. This show is special because it is the last time Eugene Bingham will take the mic at Dirt Church Radio. We say every conversation is interesting and special because it is, but this one is super special, truly the end of an era at DCR. This one is full of stories, questions, more references to ablutions than you can shake a stick at, and everything in between. Inia Raumati Rules, and So Does Eugene. Thank you for everything Eugene and hereâs to 300 more. Enjoy! Dirt Church Radio - Best Enjoyed Running.
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Episode links:
SQUADRUN
Dirt Church Live show with Inia Raumati!
Dirt Church Merch!
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Curranz
Julbo Eyewear
UltrAspire
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Ciele
Further Faster New Zealand
Enjoy!
Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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Turn Downhill for What? The 2024 Crater Rim Ultra â Dirt Church Radio 299.
Kia ora e te whanÄu. This week we bring you some of the action from the Crater Rim Ultra. A Grass Roots race with Champagne Hills. We speak with Dwight Grieve, Emma Timmis, Vicky Havill, Grant Guise, Chris Pike, Rocky Walker and Rebecca Short about this super challenging race. Dirt Church Radio - Best Enjoyed Running
Crater Rim Ultra
DCR Live Show Tickets! October 29!
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Dirt Church Merch!
The Squadrun 4 Week Training Trial for DCR Listeners!
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Further Faster New Zealand
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Kia ora e te whÄnau! In this episode of the AidStation Eugene and Matt are both huge Steve Magness fans, and are super excited about his new book Win The Inside Game, so naturally they talk through tips, tricks, and strategies that they both use when the going gets rough on the trails was on the cards. The big news of the episode is that Eugene has announced his departure from DCR after 6 years and 300 episodes, youâll read more about this in his announcement. Enjoy! Dirt Church Radio - Best Enjoyed Running.
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SQUADRUN
Dirt Church Live show with Inia Raumati!
Dirt Church Merch!
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Curranz
Julbo Eyewear
UltrAspire
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Ciele
Further Faster New Zealand
Enjoy!
Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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Kia ora e te whanÄu. This week, Matt is joined by Stephen Parker, the author of âThere Is No Finish â The Backyard Ultramarathon Storyâ. Compelled to write a book whilst being inspired by a speaker at a conference, Stephen chose to focus on the story of the niche of ultrarunning that he loves the most, the Backyard. Nearly a year later, that book is here and ready to be read. For those unfamiliar, the Backyard format is 6.76km on the hour, every hour, until there is one person standing. This format seems as old as time itself and also sits at the forefront of the sport in todayâs context. Both a gateway to longer distances and a crucible in which human suffering is quantified, the Backyard faces many challenges if it is to grow and stay relevant in todayâs culture. Matt discusses all of this, and more with Stephen in this engaging and enjoyable conversation. Dirt Church Radio - Best Enjoyed Running
Running Forever Home
There Is No Finish Instagram
There Is No Finish Facebook
Buy The Book
DCR Live Show Tickets! October 29!
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Dirt Church Merch!
The Squadrun 4 Week Training Trial for DCR Listeners!
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Further Faster New Zealand
Enjoy!
Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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Kia ora e te whÄnau! On this episode of the DCR AidStation we are back with two of our favourite coaches and the brains behind SQUADRUN, Ali Pottinger and Kerry Suter. The famous saying âEveryone has a plan until they get punched in the faceâ rings true with running. In fact, one could argue that 99% of our races have an element of the uncontrollable, but we are not going to talk about this. We are going to focus when weâve become our own Mike Tyson, and punched ourselves in the face. We rip through the gamut of bugger-ups, from the structural to digital, and how once youâve dug the hole, jumped in, and covered yourself with dirt, how to drag yourself back out. Dirt Church Radio - Best Enjoyed Running.
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Episode links:
SQUADRUN
Dirt Church Live show with Inia Raumati!
Dirt Church Merch!
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Curranz
Julbo Eyewear
UltrAspire
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Ciele
Further Faster New Zealand
Enjoy!
Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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Kia Ora e te whÄnau! Simply put, Daniel Jones is heaps good at running, so good that at the start of the year he transitioned from being an elite runner supported by a brand to being a professional athlete on an international team. Matt spoke to Dan from his home in Lower Hutt, off the back of his first USA and European season as part of the Adidas Terrex team. We discuss Western States, CCC, just how fast the OCC is, the surprises and challenges of being a professional runner, and his deep and abiding relationship with Hayden Hawks. We also discuss Danâs newsletter, and the arc of the professional career. Dan Jones rules! And so does this conversation. Best Enjoyed Running.
Daniel Jones on Instagram
Lessons from The Long Run
Adidas Terrex
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Dirt Church Merch!
The Squadrun 4 Week Training Trial for DCR Listeners!
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Further Faster New Zealand
Enjoy!
Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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Kia ora e te whÄnau! Where were you when you first heard about the big orange S? On this episode of the DCR AidStation podcast, Eugene and Matt dive deep into the good, the bad, and the (very) ugly that is Strava. Our heroes discuss what they love and love less about the social fitness platform and the positive and less positive impacts it has had on their lives. What brought this topic up was the dawning incredulity that people are hiring Strava Mules to run things fast for them for the purpose of kudos and followers. Oh, and we checked the date and it isnât April 1st. Minds. Blown.
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Episode links:
SQUADRUN
Dirt Church Merch!
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Curranz
Julbo Eyewear
UltrAspire
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Ciele
Further Faster New Zealand
Enjoy!
Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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Kia Ora e te whÄnau! If, as we posited last week, the collective noun for a group of Fire Fighters is a Calendar then in this episode weâve got most of the months ticked off!!! First off, weâve got all the action from day 2 of the Firies Climb for MND.
Then in the second part of our show Matt had the pleasure of sitting down at home with Helen Waterworth and Chris Newsome from His & Hers Endurance Events KITS when they swung through from Whangarei on their way to The Great Naseby.We love these people, they are inspiring, down-to-earth legends who have devoted most of their adult life to serving the community as members of the New Zealand fire service, and now are serving the trail running community with their business, which is essentially to act as your running event concierges, and as event directors, not only with Kings Backyard- where the record for most laps on NZ soil was broken this year, and with WhangÄrei five one two challenge.
Whatâs more, they are no slouches at endurance events themselves, with Chris having won the River run backyard in its inaugural year and Helen just back from a PB of 32 laps at Clint Eastwood in Australia. Best Enjoyed Running
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Dirt Church Merch!
The Squadrun 4 Week Training Trial for DCR Listeners!
His&Hers Endurance Event KITZ
Firies Furber Stairs Climb
Jenny Hirstâs 60km for 60 Challenge
NickrunsAustralia.org.nz
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Further Faster New Zealand
Enjoy!
Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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Kia ora e te whÄnau! We are not going to lie to you, this is a heavy episode, however it is absolutely one that you need to hear. Matt and Ali Pottinger ventured to Scenic World in Katoomba to facilitate this discussion for the Firies Furber Stairs Climb. We spoke to the original Firies Climb Organiser, Matt Pridham, about his personal experience with MND and how this drove him to start an event which raised millions of dollars, We spoke to Professor Dominic Rowe of Macqurie University. A consultant neurologist with a fury to find a cure, and who singley handidly inspired everyone in the room listening, gave pause around how we live our lives, and shattered the F bomb record on DCR. We spoke with Jane Simpson, host of MND Talks, a podcast for those families and people living with MND. Jane is the chair of the MND research collective and shared the loss of her husband to MND. Lastly, we speak to Blue Mountains local, ultramarathon runner, and on-call fire fighter Gavin Clifton, about taking up the torch as the firies climb organiser, and the purpose this brings him, and the mammoth task awaiting him to smash out 24 hours on the Furber Stairs. . Enjoy!!
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SQUADRUN
Dirt Church Merch!
Jenny Hirstâs 60km for 60 Challenge
Firies Climb for Motor Neurone Disease.
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Curranz
Julbo Eyewear
UltrAspire
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Ciele
Further Faster New Zealand
Enjoy!
Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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Kia Ora e te whÄnau! This week on the pod, Eugene and Matt settle in for a good old chat about Mattâs upcoming 100 mile event and Matt gets the opportunity to chat to one of his running idols (Eugene, and yes, we are leaving that in) about his process and engagement with the distance. Following on from last weekâs AidStation when we spoke to coach Kerry and Ali from SQUADRUN, we discuss the where, the what, and most importantly the why around an event that has bludgeoned itself into the running discourse and is more popular than ever. Dirt Church Radio - Best Enjoyed Running
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Dirt Church Merch!
The Squadrun 4 Week Training Trial for DCR Listeners!
Firies Furber Stairs Climb
Jenny Hirstâs 60km for 60 Challenge
NickrunsAustralia.org.nz
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Further Faster New Zealand
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Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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Kia ora e te whÄnau! The great questions of our age answered by two of the greatest minds (and Matt and Eugene)!! When it comes to training, how much is too much? Or too little? And do we go by time or distance? And how will we know?!?! The answer? It depends ⊠sort of ... This is a great discussion with SQUADRUN coaches Kerry Suter and Ali Pottinger around the quantitative and qualitative approach to training for your next big event. Matt reminds us how context is everything, Ali refuses to be judged for completionism, and Eugene and Kerry stack big numbers to the sky. Enjoy!!
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Episode links:
SQUADRUN
Dirt Church Merch!
Jenny Hirstâs 60km for 60 Challenge
NickrunsAustralia.org.nz
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Curranz
Julbo Eyewear
UltrAspire
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Ciele
Further Faster New Zealand
Enjoy!
Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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Kia ora e te whanau! This week Matt has the distinct privilege of speaking to Lee Grabarek. Lee (they/them) is a non-binary person who has been ripping it up on the trails and roads of Aotearoa for the last ten years, after travelling from Connecticut, where they enjoyed a very outdoorsy existence. Matt spoke to Lee about their life growing up, their initial foray into trail running and the sweet, sweet, sweet, transgression of wearing road shoes on the trail. We discuss Leeâs attendance at Out Trails, a trail running retreat for queer and trans people, and the massive impact that this had on their life. Lee, who puts it elegantly, does not âthink about my gender every second of every dayâ so what this conversation is mostly about is running, how unifying this is, and what work there is to do in the space. Lee is here to, in their words, âSend itâ and will be competing at this year's Crater Rim 30km. This is a truly interesting conversation with a super-interesting runner. Dirt Church Radio - Best Enjoyed Running.
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Dirt Church Merch!
The Squadrun 4 Week Training Trial for DCR Listeners!
Lee Grabarek- Stronger Than You Think
Trail Society Podcast with Lee Grabarek
Out Trails
Firies Furber Stairs Climb
NickrunsAustralia.org.nz
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Further Faster New Zealand
Enjoy!
Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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Kia ora e te whÄnau! This week weâre joined by DCR favourite guest Gareth Morris as he recounts to us how he knocked off a run he first dreamed of more than a decade ago when he read the DCR favourite book, Feet in the Clouds, by Richard Askwith. The famous Bob Graham Round, a fell running loop in the English Lake District, challenges runners to tackle 42 peaks over a 66 mile course in less than 24 hours. (Bob Graham was the first person to go under that mark, in 1932). Gareth talks all about the history of this famous route, the camaraderie and sacrifice of those who helped him, and how he used the powerful words of legendary runner Nicky Spinks to get him to the end. Even if youâve never heard of the BGR, or have any intention of running it, youâll come away from this episode inspired (and with new knowledge about unique English cuisine âŠ) Best enjoyed running!
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Westie Runner on YouTube
SQUADRUN
Dirt Church Merch!
Maree Leith Pledge Me for Finding Her Stride
NickrunsAustralia.org.nz
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Curranz
Julbo Eyewear
UltrAspire
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Ciele
Further Faster New Zealand
Enjoy!
Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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Kia ora e te whanau! David Hellard has had a long and varied history with running. From hashing with his army dad, to reclaiming fitness in his 20âs obstacle racing, adventure racing, a love of city exploration, running everywhere, ultras, to founding the long-running and wildly popular Bad Boy Running podcast. David has run many of the worldâs greatest marathons and has a passion for a life on two feet. Lately pivoting to creating Caffeine Bullet, a chewable caffeine source that packs a mean punch. Proving the old adage that the degree of separation between New Zealand and the rest of the world is two degrees, David and Matt find out that they have a mutual friend (via Afghanistan!) and both being chatty and distractible embark on a conversation that can only be described as two anthropomorphic spaniels chasing a butterfly around a garden. Dirt Church Radio - Best Enjoyed Running.
Sign up to the DCR AidStation newsletterDirt Church Merch!
The Squadrun 4 Week Training Trial for DCR Listeners!
Bad Boy Running Podcast
David Hellard Home
Caffeine Bullet
Firies Furber Stairs Climb
NickrunsAustralia.org.nz
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Further Faster New Zealand
Enjoy!
Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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Kia ora e te whÄnau! Weâve had the pleasure of some salubrious recording locales with Mr Andrew McDowall and this time is no different. Fresh off a DCMF heâs hit the Forestry Road Subaru Studios with Eugene and Matt for a full rundown of his Western States experience. We even got to stroke the buckle. *Spoiler Alert* Thatâs a pretty flash buckle, alright.
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Andrew McDowallâs blog
SQUADRUN
Dirt Church Merch!
NickrunsAustralia.org.nz
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Curranz
Julbo Eyewear
UltrAspire
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Ciele
Further Faster New Zealand
Enjoy!
Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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In its nine-year history the WUU2K has kicked many a runner in the ass. This year it kicked Matt in the head. Antecedently to the unfolding malarky, Eugene and Matt caught up with NZ trail legend Jenny Hirst, WUU2K race director and founder Gareth Thomas, and long-time collaborator Brent Robinson. Youâll get all the action from the start line, and Matt out on course, alongside Eugeneâs interviews with Tailwind NZâs Mark Drew, Carly Webber from Runners NZ and many more. Best Enjoyed Running.
WUU2k
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Dirt Church Merch!
The Squadrun 4 Week Training Trial for DCR Listeners!
Trail Running NZ Home
NickrunsAustralia.org.nz
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Further Faster New Zealand
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Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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Kia ora e te whÄnau! On this episode, Eugene and Matt are joined by the brains trust of SQUADRUN Ali Pottinger and Kerry Suter for a play-along-at-home adventure around the start of planning for a big adventure or event, in this case, Mattâs build up to the Tarawera Ultra Trail. As usual with these conversations, Kerry and Ali are wise beyond years, and a font of incredible knowledge. Not to be missed.
Dan Jones also checks in after his remarkable fourth-place run at Western States last weekend, and we debate the merits of standing in the way of Ruth Croft at UTMB (spoiler alert: Donât).
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SQUADRUN
Dirt Church Merch!
Maree Leith Pledge Me for Finding Her Stride
NickrunsAustralia.org.nz
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Curranz
Julbo Eyewear
UltrAspire
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Ciele
Further Faster New Zealand
Enjoy!
Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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Kia ora e te whÄnau!
âAt least I donât have to listen to my own voiceâ. So goes the bio of Bradley Houghton, the maestro behind Trail Running NZ, the newsletter that has taken the scene by storm. Breaking his own rule, Bradley sits down with Eugene and Matt to discuss his own history with trail running, and the motivation to start Trail Running NZ. Bradley, like most of us who start something creative, juggles a full time job, family, and a love of running to bring you a weekly dose of trail running goodness. Whilst we had such a wealth of knowledge on the line we took a deep dive into the WUU2K (the Wellington Urban Ultra) a standout race in the Aotearoa running calendar since 2016, running through the courses, the history of the race and the stacked fields in this year's event. Best Enjoyed Running.Sign up to the DCR AidStation newsletter
Dirt Church Merch!
The Squadrun 4 Week Training Trial for DCR Listeners!
Trail Running NZ Home
NickrunsAustralia.org.nz
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Further Faster New Zealand
Enjoy!
Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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Kia ora e te whÄnau!
Our mate Andrew McDowall is quite good at running. Eugene calls him (inexplicably) the fifth Beatle of DCR, which is absolutely true if not numerically suspect. Andrew has been trying to get into Western States for what has felt like 100 years, but is actually 9 years. Which can feel like 100 years, Iâm sure. He only went and bloody got in this year, and we speak to him about what this means for him, his training, and what he is most excited about. We also crack into a game of Over and Under about the most over rated, and most underrated aspects of race preparation. Baller.
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Dirt Church Merch!
Maree Leith Pledge Me for Finding Her Stride
NickrunsAustralia.org.nz
Inia Raumati Kia Mau Kia Ora
Curranz
Julbo Eyewear
UltrAspire
Dirt Church Radio on Instagram
Dirt Church Radio on Twitter
Dirt Church Radio on Facebook
Ciele
Further Faster New Zealand
Enjoy!
Music by Andrew McDowall, Digicake
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