Episodes
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In an age where Deadpool & Wolverine is set to smash box office records, it can be hard to remember what things were like in the first wave of superhero blockbusters. Costumes were primarily made of black leather, nu-metal montages were all the rage, and yet–there was a willingness and desire to be experimental that is often lacking today. That's the scene The Incredibles burst onto in 2004, with its dynamic color palette, its retro-futuristic atmosphere, and (shockingly) its sharply defined point of view. For the next nostalgic installment of That Was Then, Paul and Arlo are joined by The Deli Counter of Justice co-founder Eric Sipple to discuss Brad Bird's landmark entry into the superhero canon. The gang discusses how Bird and his team utilized relatively primitive CGI to striking artistic effect, how comic books were not the film's main influence, and how Hollywood learned all the wrong lessons from The Incredibles’ success.
NEXT: let's head to 1994 for more That Was Then, as we gaze upon the horrors unleashed by the Oliver Stone/Quentin Tarantino collab Natural Born Killers.
LINKS
The Cinematography of The Incredibles, Part 1 by Ron Doucet, Flooby Nooby
Part 2
Part 3
MUSIC
“The Glory Days” by Michael Giacchino, The Incredibles (Music from the Motion Picture) (2004)
“The Incredits” by Michael Giacchino, The Incredibles (Music from the Motion Picture) (2004)
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Hail and well met! This week, Paul and Arlo raise their overpriced goblets to Lance Oppenheim’s HBO docuseries Ren Faire. The three-episode series concerns the nation’s largest Renaissance faire, the Texas Renaissance Festival, and the power-hungry Oompa Loompas looking to take over the chocolate factory from their perverted Willy Wonka. The boys are in awe (derogatory) of TRF owner George Coulam, a self-professed horny old man who seems much more interested in “sugaring” young women than in running his theme park. George berates all his pitiful hangers-on, including lifer Jeffrey Baldwin, Red Bull aficionado Louie Migliaccio, and no-nonsense Darla Smith. Topics of discussion include Oppenheim’s blend of documentary and narrative filmmaking techniques, whether or not anyone involved is deserving of our sympathy, and LARPing.
NEXT: hope you know where your super suit is, because The Deli Counter of Justice co-founder Eric Sipple is joining Paul and Arlo for a That Was Then look back at 2004’s The Incredibles.
LINKS
Important Scoop: A Job Shuffle at HBO’s ‘Ren Faire’ by Vince Mancini
Ren Faire’s Darla, Jeff, and Louie on Surviving HBO’s Real-Life Succession and King George by Julie Miller, Vanity Fair
What If Game of Thrones and Succession Had a Docu-Baby? by Rebecca Alter, Vulture
“Harvesting Artifice”: Lance Oppenheim Heightens Reality in HBO Series ‘Ren Faire’ by Dan Schindel, Documentary Magazine
MUSIC
“How Can I Keep From Singing?” by Enya, Shepherd Moons (1991)
“Who I’d Be” by Daniel Breaker & Bryan D’Arcy James, Shrek: The Musical (2010)
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The stork just made a special delivery, and it’s a new episode of Gobbledygeek! Bat-Turkey also welcomes a new addition to the family: Alexandra Jade Wiley, who came into this world on April 28, 2024. Arlo’s second daughter has arrived at a pivotal time, a time in which Paul has become consumed by Taylor Swift’s life-altering new album The Tortured Poets Department. Besides raving about the ladies in their lives, the boys catch up on pop culture: Luca Guadagnino’s triple threat Challengers, the tremendous second season of Interview with the Vampire, the riff-laden roots of heavy metal, and kaiju weepie Godzilla Minus One, among much more.
NEXT: huzzah! We take a trip to the Middle Ages with Lance Oppenheim’s HBO docuseries Ren Faire.
MUSIC
“But Daddy I Love Him” by Taylor Swift, The Tortured Poets Department (2024)
“Changes” by Black Sabbath, Vol. 4 (1972)
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For the first time this season, Paul and Arlo have lost the plot. That’s right, the beloved Gobbledygeek freestyle episode has returned, new and improved for 2024, including such scintillating subjects as: Back pain! Stomach bugs! Car crashes! Country mouse Arlo took a trip to New York City, taking a bite out of the Big Apple for the very first time; Paul is planning a secluded getaway just to listen to the new Taylor Swift album; and, what’s that? The boys are writing again? They’re going to release another book? Yes! Well, maybe! Probably! All that and more on the latest episode of your very most favorite podcast.
NEXT: anything is possible.
MUSIC
“Welcome to New York (Taylor’s Version)” by Taylor Swift, 1989 (Taylor’s Version) (2022)
“Borrowed Time” by John Lennon, Milk and Honey (1984)
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You’re a better podcaster than us, Michael Holland. That’s right, the City of Angels’ very own boy wonder is back to take Paul and Arlo to film school. The That Was Then classic gracing our screens this time is George Stevens’ 1939 adventure film Gunga Din, starring Cary Grant, Victor McLaglen, and Douglas Fairbanks Jr. The gang discusses the film’s connection to William Goldman, the subject of the first season of Michael’s podcast From Out of the Past; why it represents a milestone in action-adventure cinema; its surprising, or refreshing, lack of plot; and why Paul and Arlo had such a hard time watching this 85-year-old film for the very first time.
NEXT: much like Schwarzenegger, we’ll be back.
BREAKDOWN
00:00:42 - Intro / Guest
00:10:23 - Gunga Din
01:16:05 - Outro / Next
LINKS
From Out of the Past Podcast
Holland_Imaginarium
MUSIC
“The Ballad of Gunga Din” by Jim Croce, Facets (1966)
“You Ain’t Goin’ Nowhere” by Bob Dylan and the Band, Bob Dylan’s Greatest Hits Vol. II (1971)
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Around and around we go, where we’ll stop–only Arlo knows! For this month’s Four-Color Flashback, Gobbledygeek’s enfant terrible has chosen Junji Ito’s 1998-99 horror manga Uzumaki. Will Paul ever forgive him? On hand to find out is The Deli Counter of Justice co-conspirator Eric Sipple, who will be appearing on FCF episodes for infinity. The gang discusses Ito’s beautifully grotesque imagery, the book’s at times confounding narrative, their (in)experience with the manga form, and snails. Plus, Arlo has been dabbling in other East Asian art with more Godzilla movies and Edward Yang’s Taiwanese masterpiece Yi Yi; and Paul cannot hold back his rage when it comes to X-Men ‘97.
NEXT: where you been, Gunga Din? Hollywood’s own Michael Holland joins us to discuss George Stevens’ 1939 classic.
BREAKDOWN
00:00:49 - Intro / Godzilla banter
00:14:23 - X-Men ‘97 rage!
00:28:33 - Uzumaki
01:49:54 - Outro / Next
MUSIC
“Spiraling Shape” by They Might Be Giants, Factory Showroom (1996)
“Snails Pace” by Bob Brown, Snails Pace (2022)
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Oh, what a tangled web we Weavers! For this month’s Four-Color Flashback, Paul and Arlo trap Eric Sipple in their web once more, this time to discuss Simon Spurrier & Dylan Burnett’s Lovecraftian mob story Weavers. Despite being big fans of Spurrier’s (author of past FCF favorites Six-Gun Gorilla and The Spire), Paul and Arlo aren't quite sure what to make of this one, while Eric has some thoughts on why the book is an interesting failure. One thing they can all agree on is Burnett’s vibrant, stylish art–and how it elevates everything else on the page.
NEXT: Paul and Arlo will return.
MUSIC
“Itsy Bitsy Spider” by Itsy Bitsy Spider (2015)
“Boris the Spider” by The Who, A Quick One (1966)
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As they say, don’t drink and podcast, but here Paul and Arlo are talking about 2004’s Sideways for another round of That Was Then. Alexander Payne’s acclaimed dramedy follows alcoholic wine connoisseur Miles as he takes his bonehead best buddy Jack on a road trip through Santa Barbara the week before Jack’s due to get hitched. It is the Fox Searchlight movie, and the boys discuss what that means, how the performances bring forth certain emotional notes in the script’s body, and why somebody could come away from a first viewing not understanding 20 years’ worth of hype. Plus, Arlo goes into uncomfortable detail about his middle school career.
NEXT: enough old movies, let’s talk old(-ish) comics! This month’s Four-Color Flashback sees Eric Sipple joining Paul and Arlo for Si Spurrier and Dylan Burnett’s Weavers.
BREAKDOWN
00:00:45 - Intro / Guest
00:29:46 - Main Topic
01:35:36 - Outro / Next
MUSIC
“Scenes from an Italian Restaurant” by Billy Joel, The Stranger (1977)
“A Case of You” by Joni Mitchell, Blue (1971)
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We’re speeding away at breakneck speed with another installment of our That Was Then series. This time Paul and Arlo are witnesses to The Taking of Pelham One Two Three, a 1974 subway heist thriller that is exactly what it says on the tin. Not that there’s anything wrong with that! But our boys do struggle to find much to say, choosing to highlight David Shire’s jazz-funk score and Owen Roizman’s gritty cinematography while mostly being puzzled by the script’s wasted potential. It’s a fun Noo Yawk movie, and that’s okay, folks!
NEXT: NO FUCKING MERLOT! That’s right, it’s another That Was Then, this time focusing on Alexander Payne’s 2004 buddy dramedy Sideways.
BREAKDOWN
00:00:30 - Intro / The Year That Was 1974
00:21:38 - The Taking of Pelham One Two Three
01:20:30 - Outro / Next
MUSIC
“Sure Shot” by Beastie Boys, Ill Communication (1994)
“Crazy Train” by Ozzy Osbourne, Blizzard of Ozz (1980)
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For the next installment in our That Was Then series, Paul and Arlo cast their minds back to 1964–a year that predates both of them, though the era’s Beatlemania might as well be Arlo’s spiritual birthplace. This time, they’re popping paisley parasols for Jacques Demy’s The Umbrellas of Cherbourg, a sung-through opera told in the style of a Hollywood musical with some of the most stunning colors you’ll ever see. Hollywood extraordinaire and From Out of the Past host Michael Holland is on hand to help the boys discuss how the film defies romantic conventions while adhering to them, the magic of Jean Rabier’s camerawork, the way Demy uses color to convey feeling, and why the film deserves to be mentioned alongside classics of the French New Wave.
NEXT: it’s a mystery, gang!
BREAKDOWN
00:00:33 - Intro / Guest / The Year 1964
00:21:00 - The Umbrellas of Cherbourg
01:28:00 - Outro / Next
LINKS
From Out of the Past Podcast
Holland_Imaginarium
MUSIC
“Le Parapluies De Cherbourg” by Michel Legrand
“Umbrella (feat. Jay-Z)” by Rihanna, Good Girl Gone Bad (2007)
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Who ya gonna call? Gobbledygeek! For the first installment of our That Was Then series, taking a look back at movies celebrating anniversaries in 2024, Paul and Arlo take residence at Spook Central for 1984’s Ghostbusters. Turning a frightful 40 this year, Ivan Reitman’s classic comedy began as a high-concept riff on the “slobs v. snobs” template made popular by Animal House before becoming an inescapable pop cultural juggernaut. The boys discuss the thoughtfulness of Reitman’s direction in tandem with the great László Kovács’ photography, the perfectly structured script by Dan Aykroyd and Harold Ramis, how much of Pete Venkman is just Bill Murray, and why the right-wing backlash to the 2016 remake is ironic in light of the original’s sketchy politics.
NEXT: a little of this, a little of that.
BREAKDOWN
00:00:48 - Intro / The Year That Was 1984
00:18:19 - Ghostbusters (1984)
01:36:29 - Outro / Next
MUSIC
“Ghostbusters” by Ray Parker Jr., Ghostbusters (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) (1984)
“Cleanin’ Up the Town” by The Busboys, Ghostbusters (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) (1984)
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Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's the Gobbledygeek season 15 premiere! Breaking from vaguely defined tradition, Paul and Arlo are kicking off the season with a Four-Color Flashback, and their pal Eric Sipple is on hand to help turn the pages. Arlo has chosen to subject Paul and Eric to the classic Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale collab Superman for All Seasons, which may prove a tough sell to a couple of Super-skeptics. The gang discusses the book’s Rockwell-influenced aesthetic, the simplicity (or flatness, depending on taste) of the cast, how Sale’s big dopey Superman conveys Clark Kent’s decency, and the surprising love triangle at the book’s core. Plus, Arlo explains the very personal reasons he chose this book to start the season. You'll believe a man can cry.
NEXT: introducing our That Was Then series, wherein Paul and Arlo will be taking a look at various movies that are celebrating anniversaries in 2024. First up is perennial Gobbledy-fave Ghostbusters, which is turning a frightful 40.
BREAKDOWN
00:00:43 - Intro / Guest
00:13:05 - Superman For All Seasons
02:02:28 - Arlo kills the conversation (TW: dead dads)
02:21:30 - Outro / Next
LINKS
Making the Scene podcast
MUSIC
“Time of the Season” by The Zombies, Odessey and Oracle (1968)
“Turn! Turn! Turn!” by The Byrds (1965)
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You’ll slash your eye out, Kidder! To close out our truncated season, it’s a Twisted Christmas double feature, as Paul and Arlo explore both of Canadian auteur Bob Clark’s yuletide classics: 1974’s proto-slasher Black Christmas and the 1983 staple A Christmas Story. The boys separately find each of these movies to be deeply annoying…but who couldn’t stand which one?! Just kidding, Paul’s not that into the horror movie and Arlo can’t stand the cutesy nostalgic one. We have a brand, and we’re sticking to it. Plus, our favorite movies and TV shows of 2023.
NEXT: Merry Christmas and happy New Year! We’ll potentially be back in January potentially with a guest and potentially discussing a movie. So much potential for 2024, can’t wait to squander all of it!
BREAKDOWN
00:00:49 - Intro
00:09:03 - Black Christmas
00:57:31 - A Christmas Story
01:49:06 - Outro / Next
MUSIC
“Call Me” by Blondie, American Gigolo (1980)
“BB Gun” by Roger Alan Wade, All Likkered Up (2005)
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What is there for a young, mixed-race woman to do in feudal Japan? Reject all traces of her femininity, assume the masculine identity of a ronin, and seek revenge on any of the four white men in the whole country who could potentially be her father. Is Mizu a demonic half-breed, an enlightened warrior, or something else altogether? Created by Michael Green and Amber Noizumi, Blue Eye Samurai charts Mizu’s journey of self-discovery and bloodlust, and Paul and Arlo are along for the ride. The boys discuss the show’s brilliant fight choreography, each character’s attempt to break free of their constraints, the tremendous voice performances of Maya Erskine and Brenda Song, and that Metallica cover. Plus, Arlo pays homage to big bald daddy Godzilla.
NEXT: ho ho no! It’s a Bob Clark double feature on the finale of our truncated season 14, as Twisted Christmas rears its festive face once more. Black Christmas and A Christmas Story are basically the same movie, right?
BREAKDOWN
00:00:55 - Intro / Guest
00:30:10 - Blue Eye Samurai
02:00:12 - Outro / Next
LINKS
Blue Eye Samurai is one of the smartest Netflix shows in years by Aja Romano, Vox
Blue Eye Samurai creator wanted to tell a different type of mixed-race story by Petrana Radulovic, Polygon
Blue Eye Samurai is the best thing Netflix has done in years by Petrana Radulovic, Polygon
‘Blue Eye Samurai’ Is a Gory and Gorgeous Animated Series From Netflix by Alan Sepinwall, Rolling Stone
How ‘Blue Eye Samurai’s’ Exploration of Mixed Race Identity Helps It “Break All of the Boxes” in Animated Storytelling by Abbey White, The Hollywood Reporter
MUSIC
“For Whom the Bell Tolls” by Emi Meyer, Blue Eye Samurai (Soundtrack from the Netflix Series) (2023)
“Pale Blue Eyes” by The Velvet Underground, The Velvet Underground (1969)
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We’re crash-landing back into regular podcasting with the Max original animated series Scavengers Reign. Created by Joseph Bennett and Charles Huettner, the seeds of Scavengers Reign were planted in an Adult Swim short before blossoming into a brilliant sci-fi series teeming with surrealist detours and bits of body horror. Paul and Arlo rave about the show’s Cronenberg-meets-Miyazaki vibe, laud the series’ refusal to provide easy answers, and hope against hope that this beautiful, otherworldly thing will continue to thrive in a second season. Plus, Arlo is the worst.
NEXT: more Western adult animation with heavy influence from the East, as the boys confront Netflix’s Blue Eye Samurai.
BREAKDOWN
00:00:45 - Intro / Arlo is the worst!
00:27:55 - Scavengers Reign
01:53:45 - Outro / Next
LINKS
Scavengers Reign’s Writers on Creating a Beautifully Hostile Sci-Fi Show by Justin Carter, Gizmodo
One With Nature, Stranded in Outer Space by Kambole Campbell, Variety
The Sonic Ecosystem of Scavengers Reign by Marc Weidenbaum, Disquiet
Max’s Scavengers Reign captures the beauty and terror of a truly alien world by Andrew Webster, The Verge
The sci-fi adventure Scavengers Reign is an anomalous alien wonder by Toussaint Egan, Polygon
Scavengers Reign Might Be the Most Underrated Show of the Year by Zach Kram, The Ringer
MUSIC
“Interstellar Outer Space” by Anderson East, Maybe We Never Die (2021)
“Slime Creatures from Outer Space” by “Weird Al” Yankovic, Dare to Be Stupid (1985)
GOBBLEDYCARES
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
Abortion Funds in Every State: https://bit.ly/AbortionFundsTwitter
Support AAPI communities and those affected by anti-Asian violence: https://www.gofundme.com/c/act/stop-aapi-hate
Support the AAPI Civic Engagement Fund: https://aapifund.org/
Support Black Lives Matter and find anti-racism resources: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/
The Trevor Project provides information and support to LGBTQ youth: thetrevorproject.org
Trans Lifeline: https://translifeline.org/
National Center for Transgender Equality: transequality.org
Advocate for writers who might be owed money due to discontinuance of royalties: https://www.writersmustbepaid.org/
Help teachers and classrooms in need: https://www.donorschoose.org/
Do your part to remove the burden of medical debt for individuals, families, and veterans: https://ripmedicaldebt.org/
Register to vote: https://vote.gov/
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500 episodes! Can you believe it? What incredibly special way will we choose to commemorate this event??? By, well, just having a regular episode discussing Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse with our good friend Eric Sipple. At one point this past summer, we weren’t sure another episode was ever going to happen, so this seems like a fitting celebration. The boys rave about Across the Spider-Verse’s layered meanings, innovative animation, strong emotion, and how much more fun and exciting the movie is than the comics are these days.
NEXT: who even knows, man.
BREAKDOWN
00:00:55 - Intro / Guest
00:07:05 - Shout out to Levi Williams!
00:13:28 - Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
02:29:18 - Outro / Next
LINKS
Superheroes, Miles Morales, and the Fallacy of Hard Choices by Eric Sipple
The Life of Reilly: In-Depth Analysis of the Spider-Man Clone Saga by Andrew Goletz
MUSIC
“I’m Gonna Be (500 Miles)” by The Proclaimers, Sunshine On Leith (1988)
“Spiderwebs” by No Doubt, Tragic Kingdom (1995)
GOBBLEDYCARES
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
Abortion Funds in Every State: https://bit.ly/AbortionFundsTwitter
Support AAPI communities and those affected by anti-Asian violence: https://www.gofundme.com/c/act/stop-aapi-hate
Support the AAPI Civic Engagement Fund: https://aapifund.org/
Support Black Lives Matter and find anti-racism resources: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/
The Trevor Project provides information and support to LGBTQ youth: thetrevorproject.org
Trans Lifeline: https://translifeline.org/
US (877) 565-8860
Canada (877) 330-6366
National Center for Transgender Equality: transequality.org
Advocate for writers who might be owed money due to discontinuance of royalties: https://www.writersmustbepaid.org/
Help teachers and classrooms in need: https://www.donorschoose.org/
Do your part to remove the burden of medical debt for individuals, families, and veterans: https://ripmedicaldebt.org/
Register to vote: https://vote.gov/
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You have to believe Gobbledygeek is magic. Or at the very least, that Paul and Arlo will revel in cinematic magic on the latest Geek Challenge. Robert Greenwald's infamous 1980 flop Xanadu is paired with David Lynch's acclaimed 2001 masterpiece Mulholland Drive for a fantastical discussion of filmic fantasy. The boys argue that Xanadu should not be seen as a failure, interpret Mulholland Drive's many cryptic symbols, bask in the radiance of Olivia Newton-John, and laud Naomi Watts' raw emotion. Plus, our bodies continue to deteriorate.
NEXT: five hundo.
BREAKDOWN
00:00:39 - Intro
00:15:49 - Xanadu
01:04:15 - Mulholland Drive
01:57:26 - Outro / Next
MUSIC
“Magic” by Olivia Newton-John, Xanadu (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) (1980)
“Llorando” by Rebekah Del Rio, All My Life - Toda Me Vida (2003)
GOBBLEDYCARES
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
Abortion Funds in Every State: https://bit.ly/AbortionFundsTwitter
Support AAPI communities and those affected by anti-Asian violence: https://www.gofundme.com/c/act/stop-aapi-hate
Support the AAPI Civic Engagement Fund: https://aapifund.org/
Support Black Lives Matter and find anti-racism resources: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/
The Trevor Project provides information and support to LGBTQ youth: thetrevorproject.org
Trans Lifeline: https://translifeline.org/
US (877) 565-8860
Canada (877) 330-6366
National Center for Transgender Equality: transequality.org
Advocate for writers who might be owed money due to discontinuance of royalties: https://www.writersmustbepaid.org/
Help teachers and classrooms in need: https://www.donorschoose.org/
Do your part to remove the burden of medical debt for individuals, families, and veterans: https://ripmedicaldebt.org/
Register to vote: https://vote.gov/
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In brightest day, in blackest night, no listener shall escape the Four-Color Flashback’s might! In an unusual turn of events, Paul has selected a DC book–but, of course, it’s an unusual one. Published under DC’s Young Animal imprint, curated by My Chemical Romance’s Gerard Way, Far Sector is a Green Lantern murder mystery written by N.K. Jemisin (in her first comics work) with art by Jamal Campbell. Sojourner “Jo” Mullein is the newest Lantern in the universe, and she’s been kicked way out into the far reaches of space to solve the City Enduring’s first murder in half-a-millennia. That murder, though, is only a thread–and when Jo starts pulling, the whole city begins to unravel. The boys discuss Jemisin’s timely social commentary, Campbell’s gorgeous art, why Jo Mullein overcomes our hosts’ Green Lantern skepticism, and the freaking @At. Plus, Paul and Arlo binge some TV, including the final seasons of Succession, Barry, and Ted Lasso; the new season of I Think You Should Leave with Tim Robinson; and the very first season of American Born Chinese.
NEXT: it’s Xanadu vs. Mulholland Drive in a Geek Challenge for the ages.
BREAKDOWN
00:00:35 - Intro / Oh Lawd, it’s comin’!
00:08:00 - Recent TV season / series finales
00:38:06 - Far Sector
01:46:55 - Outro / Next
MUSIC
“Space Cop” by Sam Guydude, Space Cop - Single (2023)
“Many Moons” by Janelle Monae, Metropolis: The Chase Suite (2008)
GOBBLEDYCARES
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
Abortion Funds in Every State: https://bit.ly/AbortionFundsTwitter
Support AAPI communities and those affected by anti-Asian violence: https://www.gofundme.com/c/act/stop-aapi-hate
Support the AAPI Civic Engagement Fund: https://aapifund.org/
Support Black Lives Matter and find anti-racism resources: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/
The Trevor Project provides information and support to LGBTQ youth: thetrevorproject.org
Trans Lifeline: https://translifeline.org/
US (877) 565-8860
Canada (877) 330-6366
National Center for Transgender Equality: transequality.org
Advocate for writers who might be owed money due to discontinuance of royalties: https://www.writersmustbepaid.org/
Help teachers and classrooms in need: https://www.donorschoose.org/
Do your part to remove the burden of medical debt for individuals, families, and veterans: https://ripmedicaldebt.org/
Register to vote: https://vote.gov/
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Are you feeling “Homesick”? Are you all “Tangled Up in Blue”? Dogged by a “Simple Twist of Fate” or, perhaps, sippin’ on gin and “Orange Juice”? Then boy, do we have the Geek Challenge for you! Dipping their toes in musical waters for the first time in a while, our boys are listening to one of each other’s favorite albums. Paul has challenged Arlo to Noah Kahan’s 2022 singer-songwriter album Stick Season, and Arlo has in turn challenged Paul to Bob Dylan’s extremely singer-songwriter classic, 1975’s Blood on the Tracks. They grapple with each artist’s distinctive vocal stylings, compare the albums’ sense of mourning for loves lost, and are generally perplexed by what music the other is drawn to.
NEXT: Drop a sick beat, we’re gonna freestyle.
BREAKDOWN
00:00:55 - Intro / Guest
00:05:30 - Stick Season by Noah Kahan
01:19:28 - Blood on the Tracks by Bob Dylan
02:27:31 - Outro / Next
LINKS
Noah Kahan’s ‘Stick Season’ beautifully captures the complexities of homesickness by Elle Muller, The Dartmouth
Famous in a Small Town: Noah Kahan, ‘Stick Season’ and the Art of Looking Forward and Backward All At Once by Hannah Dailey, Billboard
Pitchfork Review: Blood on the Tracks by Jesse Jarnow, Pitchfork
MUSIC
“Stick Season” by Noah Kahan, Stick Season (2022)
“Meet Me in the Morning” by Bob Dylan, Blood on the Tracks (1975)
GOBBLEDYCARES
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
Abortion Funds in Every State: https://bit.ly/AbortionFundsTwitter
Support AAPI communities and those affected by anti-Asian violence: https://www.gofundme.com/c/act/stop-aapi-hate
Support the AAPI Civic Engagement Fund: https://aapifund.org/
Support Black Lives Matter and find anti-racism resources: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/
The Trevor Project provides information and support to LGBTQ youth: thetrevorproject.org
Trans Lifeline: https://translifeline.org/
US (877) 565-8860
Canada (877) 330-6366
National Center for Transgender Equality: transequality.org
Advocate for writers who might be owed money due to discontinuance of royalties: https://www.writersmustbepaid.org/
Help teachers and classrooms in need: https://www.donorschoose.org/
Do your part to remove the burden of medical debt for individuals, families, and veterans: https://ripmedicaldebt.org/
Register to vote: https://vote.gov/
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For this month’s Four-Color Flashback, Paul and Arlo tackle a blindspot from one of their favorite writers. Gene Luen Yang, author of Gobbledyfaves like American Born Chinese and Avatar: The Last Airbender, tells the brutal story of the Boxer Rebellion in Boxers & Saints. The graphic novel duology delves into complex subjects like faith, spirituality, nationalism, and fascism; we cover ‘em all, hopefully in something resembling depth. Plus, Arlo returns to the city of Metropolis for more Superman comics, including mega-event The Death and Return of Superman and Grant Morrison & Mark Waid’s JLA run.
NEXT: we find our inner Greenwich Village folksters with a Geek Challenge featuring Noah Kahan’s Stick Season and Bob Dylan’s Blood on the Tracks.
BREAKDOWN
00:00:30 - Intro / Arlo’s Adventures of Superman
00:36:45 - Boxers & Saints
02:20:14 - Outro / Next
MUSIC
“The Boxer” by Simon & Garfunkle, Bridge Over Troubled Water (1970)
“It’s Hard to Be a Saint in the City” by Bruce Springsteen, Greetings from Asbury Park, N.J. (1973)
GOBBLEDYCARES
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
Abortion Funds in Every State: https://bit.ly/AbortionFundsTwitter
Support AAPI communities and those affected by anti-Asian violence: https://www.gofundme.com/c/act/stop-aapi-hate
Support the AAPI Civic Engagement Fund: https://aapifund.org/
Support Black Lives Matter and find anti-racism resources: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/
The Trevor Project provides information and support to LGBTQ youth: thetrevorproject.org
Trans Lifeline: https://translifeline.org/
US (877) 565-8860
Canada (877) 330-6366
National Center for Transgender Equality: transequality.org
Advocate for writers who might be owed money due to discontinuance of royalties: https://www.writersmustbepaid.org/
Help teachers and classrooms in need: https://www.donorschoose.org/
Do your part to remove the burden of medical debt for individuals, families, and veterans: https://ripmedicaldebt.org/
Register to vote: https://vote.gov/
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