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Does Excommunication work? It seems to have shut down both the Ordain Women movement and the Feminist Movement in 1993. What can people learn from these episodes to effect change in the LDS Church? Dr Margaret Toscano discusses lessons learned. Check out our conversation...
https://youtu.be/8PydVPNg9jI
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Let's Talk about the Sept 6. We'll turn back the clock to 1993 and discuss the events that led up to the excommunication of 6 intellectuals in the LDS Church. Dr Margaret Toscano takes us through the important events of the Sept 6. Check out our conversation...
https://youtu.be/qvjTdAs5uhU
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Dr Margaret Toscano gives a review of "The Sept 6 & the Struggle for the Soul of Mormonism by Dr Sara Patterson. We'll learn what Margaret likes and doesn't like about the book. Check out our conversation...
https://youtu.be/_ZgwEjJuzB8
Don’t miss our other conversations about the Sept Six: https://gospeltangents.com/mormon_history/sept-six/
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We'll recap the MHA 2024 Conference with the best historians on the planet from Kirtland, Ohio!
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It was a super fun week. I'll share the fun times at the NT Wright Conference and Mormon History Assoc in Kirtland. NT Wright is one of the most renown New Testament Scholars. He is a British former Anglican Bishop.
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In our final conversation with Dan and Ann Hatch of Christ's Church, we'll get into whether they accept black Church members. Do they ordain blacks? (Many fundamentalists reject the 1978 revelation on priesthood from Spencer W Kimball in the mainstream LDS Church.) We'll also discuss why outsiders can't attend priesthood meetings, solemn assemblies, and other topics. To Check out our conversation, sign up at gospeltangents.com/newsletter and I'll send you a secret link to the final part of our conversation!
https://youtu.be/HL9KXUMNWq8
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Christ's Church claims to go back to the 1877 long endowment session that took hours to complete? Why are they so long? Do they do the Oath of Vengeance? Blood Atonement? We'll dive in deep! Check out our conversation...
https://youtu.be/7Y7CIugiAAw
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In the early days of the LDS Church, people often were baptized multiple times, but the repeat baptisms practice was phased out. Christ's Church is a fundamentalist Mormon group and they still practice repeat baptisms, including baptism for health. Dan & Ann Hatch are the pres and matron of the Nevada Temple, and will explain more about this practice. Check out our conversation...
https://youtu.be/NhrcSyjK6jg
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When Wilford Woodruff issued the Manifesto banning polygamy in the LDS Church, supporters of polygamy called him a traitor. Is that how Christ's Church feels? Dan & Ann Hatch are the pres and matron of the Nevada Temple and share their opinions about Woodruff. Check out our conversation...
https://youtu.be/Eu_TuzaKI3A
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Who founded Christ's Church (a polygamist group)? Ann & Dan Hatch are the matron and temple pres of Christ's Church and detail how the church was founded by Gerald Peterson, Sr in 1978. We'll discuss his priesthood claims and how they view other groups' priesthood, including the LDS Church. Check out our conversation...
https://youtu.be/MSeGDUXEb3U
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This is the first podcast inside a polygamist temple! Dan & Ann Hatch are the temple president & matron of the Nevada Temple for Christ's Church. We're meeting in their baptistry and will learn more about their temple ceremonies. We'll also discuss their conversion from the LDS Church to Christ's Church. Check out our conversation....
https://youtu.be/a30ueYi77cY
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Here is our 2nd Gospel Tangents Road Trip! We're visiting 2 temples and even get to go inside temple with our camera! Dan & Ann Hatch are the temple president & matron of the Nevada Temple for Christ's Church. We'll also drive near Modena, Utah to visit the pyrmaid shaped temple with Quorum of 12 President David Patrick and John Peterson, uncle to the current prophet Michael Peterson of Christ's Church. Check out our conversation....
https://youtu.be/ZY7_sU61dck
Don’t miss our other trips: https://gospeltangents.com/mormon_history/gt-trips/
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Have the Sept Six & other intellectuals nfluenced LDS Church leaders with their arguments? Dr Sara Patterson weighs in on that question. If you're not on our newsletter, sign up for free and I'll send you a secret link to listen to the conclusion at https://gospeltangents.com/newsletter
https://youtu.be/9NKgZfLUtgI
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0:00 Have Intellectuals Moved Church Leaders?
Dr. Sarah Patterson discusses how her book on September 6 has influenced Mormon church leadership.
1:03 Sensitive Topics
Openness to discussions of polygamy, magic, and seer stones has increased among church leaders, with some ideas becoming more mainstream.
Church leaders emphasize boundaries on historical topics, while discussing Heavenly Mother and women in priesthood.
5:12 Purity culture and its relation to excommunications in the LDS Church
Sara challenges the firm brackets around the September 6 event, arguing for a broader understanding of the purity system in the LDS church.
Church leaders implemented purity system to unify diverse members through excommunications.
9:09 Faith, theology, and intellectual freedom.
Institutions should prioritize safety and allow for open questions and discussions to foster fulfilling faithful lives.
Dissident group within church argues for inclusive, egalitarian community focused on personal relationship with spirit.
15:03 Advice for Leaders
Dr. Sarah Patterson discusses her book "September 6: The Struggle for the Soul of Mormonism" and provides insights on the tension between individual conscience and institutional authority within the Mormon Church.
Patterson emphasizes the importance of seeking truth and individual relationships with the Spirit, rather than blindly following institutional rules and expectations.
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Have you every wanted to go on a road trip with Rick B? Now's your chance! This is the first in a series of Tangent Trips we'll go on: Gilgal Gardens. The idea is to visit various Mormon history sites, both obscure & famous, and take you along for the ride!
In this first Tangent Trip, we'll visit Gilgal Garden, home of the Joseph Smith Sphinx! Why a sphinx? Why not! I'll let my friend Clair Barrus tell you more!
Don’t miss our other trips: https://gospeltangents.com/mormon_history/gt-trips/
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In our final conversation we'll talk about some other Fundamentalist Mormon groups and how the race ban & Word of Wisdom are viewed. To hear the final part of our conversation, sign up to our free newsletter at https://gospeltangents.com/newsletter and I'll send you a secret link for free.
https://youtu.be/W3Gdqso7ZAk
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Fundamentalist Mormon Theology has some interesting differences with the LDS Church. Dr Cristina Rosetti says Heavenly Mothers are named, as is the Holy Ghost. We'll also talk about a specialized form of reincarnation and the economic order of heaven. Check out our conversation...
https://youtu.be/HObl0iSTUqw
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1944 & 1953 saw Police Raids on polygamists. These were traumatic reminders that they couldn't trust authorities. Dr Cristina Rosetti details more on these police raids and why fundamentalist Mormon communities became wary of outsiders. We'll talk with Dr Cristina Rosetti about the schisms that happened following these raids. Check out our conversation...
https://youtu.be/OoTaWOQja2I
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Joseph Musser has documented Mormon fundamentalism better than nearly any other person. Dr Cristina Rosetti will discuss his post-Manifesto polygamy and his theological innovations. Check out our conversation...
https://youtu.be/huUeh2wCzmc
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We're talking Mormon fundamentalism! Joseph Musser was the first fundamentalist Mormon who wrote down the unique theology (besides polygamy) that they believe. Dr. Cristina Rosetti has written a biography of this man and explains the founding members of the earliest fundamentalist communities. Check out our conversation...
https://youtu.be/CC_AYvuZm94
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Tim Ballard is famous for trying to rescue sex slaves with his Operation Underground Railroad. But now he has allegations of sexual impropriety himself. We'll talk about the controversy and how he got funding. Check out our conversation...
https://youtu.be/_tJ2epOUHV4
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