Episodes
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Last week we dropped part one of Mindful Intimacy with Natassia Miller, the founder of Wonderlust and the brilliant mind behind the Mindful Intimacy card deck game
If you missed it You can listen to episode 51 here: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Youtube
This week’s episode features our founder and host Cat Meyer and her partner, John Freeman playing the Mindful Intimacy game. It’s different from our other episodes as it's not an interview but an inside peek into their relationship and a demonstration of how mindful intimacy decks are a great way to initiate conversations that deepen and strengthen your relationship.
Receive 15% when you purchase the Wonderlust Mindful Intimacy Deck with code: HEADSOUTH15
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Today’s episode features Natassia Miller founder of Wonderlust.
Wonderlust launched in 2022 with its iconic intimacy card deck, which makes it easy for couples to talk about sex. Natassia's first product went viral multiple times, and she is now launching online courses driven by her passion for education. Her work is focused on cisgender, straight couples in long-term relationships, which she specializes in through her certification as a sexologist with Modern Sex Therapy Institutes (as an educator, not a therapist). She is on the path to building a library of accessible courses for you to design the sex life and relationship you want.
In this episode, we discuss:
Thinking about how you want to spend time after sex Common problems in long-term couples Natassia's game, Wonderlust Approaching your partner about mixing things up in bed How traditional gender roles factor into asking for the sex you want The importance of touch without sex Finding a balance in the frequency of sex and desire discrepancies Normalizing positive sexual discussions and complimenting your partner regarding sexReceive 15% off when you purchase Wonderlust Mindful Intimacy Deck with code: HEADSOUTH15
You can find Natassia here: wonderlust.co | @natassiamiller | @joinwonderlust
Please support Natassia’s foundation of choice: Planned Parenthood provides reproductive and sexual healthcare, and sexual education in the United States and globally
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In this episode, we welcome Emily Gay, an able-bodied, cis woman who has carved out a remarkable career in sexual wellness. Originally from the East Coast but with a love for the mostly warm climate of Southern California, Emily's journey into human sexuality was both unexpected and fulfilling. From aspiring to work with animals as an exotic animal behaviorist and a vet tech to finding her passion with humans as a nanny, birth doula, and now a sexuality educator, Emily's diverse experiences have shaped her unique approach to her work.
What sex education was like for millennials The concept of celibacy and its impact on sexual wellness Male body shame and the journey to overcoming it The process of working through shame to discover pleasure The role of educators in gendered work Debunking common myths about sex
Emily brings over six years of expertise as a Birth Doula, Life Coach, and Family Manager. Her background in Family Studies & Human Development, coupled with certified training in Sexuality Education, provides her with a comprehensive perspective on family dynamics and sexual health. Emily's mission is to empower individuals and couples through education, self-love, and confidence, guiding them towards happier, more fulfilling intimate relationships.
In this engaging episode, we dive into several key topics:Emily shares her experiences, knowledge, and passion for helping others achieve intimacy and relationship satisfaction.
You can find Emily Gay here: @sexedbyem | sexedbyem.com
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The National Network of Abortion Funds (NNAF) is determined to build a world where all reproductive options are valued, accessible, and stigma-free. They believe all people know how to best care for their own bodies and build their own families. They’re committed to ensuring the conversation about racial, economic, and reproductive justice includes the people most affected by the barriers to abortion access.Let's connect:
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In this episode, we welcome Dr. Laurie Mintz, an esteemed professor, author, speaker, and therapist, renowned for her expertise in human sexuality. Dr. Mintz, an Emeritus Professor at the University of Florida, has dedicated her career to teaching the Psychology of Human Sexuality to hundreds of undergraduate students. She is the acclaimed author of "Becoming Cliterate: Why Orgasm Equality Matters and How to Get It" and "A Tired Woman’s Guide to Passionate Sex," both backed by research demonstrating their effectiveness.
Dr. Mintz's influence extends beyond the classroom. She has delivered presentations and workshops to diverse audiences, including a TEDx talk that has garnered over two million views. With over 30 years of experience in private practice, she has helped countless individuals and couples navigate both general and sexual issues. Recognized as a Fellow of the American Psychological Association and named one of Forbes' “50 over 50” women innovators in 2023, Dr. Mintz’s contributions to the field are significant and widely respected.
Join us for a candid and informative conversation with Dr. Laurie Mintz as we uncover insights and actionable advice to improve sexual well-being and foster healthier, more satisfying sexual relationships.
In this episode, we dive deep into several crucial topics:
The Orgasm Gap and How to Close It Hook-up Culture and the Orgasm Gap Orgasm Gap vs. Desire Discrepancy/Deficiency Getting Cliterate Introducing Toys to Partners Media vs. Real Life Sexual Experiences Masturbation for People with VulvasYou can find Dr. Laurie Mintz here: @drlauriemintz | drlauriemintz.com
Please support Dr. Laurie’s foundation of choice:
Planned Parenthood was founded over 100 years ago on the revolutionary idea that women have the right to access the information and care they need to live strong, healthy lives. Today, the Planned Parenthood Action Fund (PPAF) fights to protect that right — often in the face of extreme politicians trying to take it away.
Let’s connect: @headsouth.world | @headsouthradio | @Kittycatmeyer
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Joining us on this week's episode of Head South Radio are intimacy coaches and psychedelic therapists Lee Noto and Ani Manian. Lee and Ani are the Founders of Aligned Attraction, a modern relationship school designed for self-aware women ready to revolutionize their relationship with themselves and create sexy, secure love. Through their school, online courses, and workshops, they empower women to embrace 'fierce love'—a powerful self-love that dispels the illusion of unworthiness and fosters a deep sense of safety and authenticity in relationships.
In this episode, we explore a fascinating range of topics, including:
The eroticism of the universe Fostering a deep sense of safety Understanding polarities and partnership dynamics Balancing romantic and business relationships The importance of devotion to oneself and one’s partner(s) The allure of falling in love with someone's potential Distinguishing between potential and fantasyYou can find Lee Noto and Ani Manian here: @LeeNoto_ and @ani.manian | leenoto.com and animanian.com
Please support Lee and Ani’s foundation of choice: Decriminalize Sex Work works to improve policies related to all forms of sex work and to end the prohibition of consensual adult prostitution in the United States. Evidence shows that decriminalizing sex work will help end human trafficking, improve public health, and promote community safety.
Let’s connect: @headsouth.world | @headsouthradio | @Kittycatmeyer
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On this week’s episode of Head South Radio, We are exploring the exciting intersections of sex work, art, psychology, and content creation. Meet Nastya Valentine, multimedia artist and author of the tantalizing Cyberhorny Dream Diaries. Nastya's work peels back the layers of online adult content and dives into the psychological depths of her dreams.
In this episode, we'll flirt with the idea of kissing as a form of time travel and explore how to reclaim your sexual narrative after trauma. Nastya will share tidbits from her Cyberhorny Dream Diaries, showing how sex work can be a powerful healing art and discussing its psychological highs and lows.
We'll also chat about creator burnout, how to keep your energy sizzling, and secrets to creating longevity in your work and balancing real-life and digital relationships.
Get ready for a fun and enlightening conversation that will challenge your perceptions and spark your imagination.
In this episode, we discuss the following:
Kissing as a form of time travel Reclaiming your sexual narrative after trauma Nastya’s Cyber-Horny Dream Diaries Sex work as a form of Healing Art Validation of sex work and the psychological effects Creator Burnout and how to refill your energetic cup How to create longevity in your work Balancing real-life and digital relationshipsYou can find Nastya Valentine here: @nastyavalentine | cyber-horny.com
Please support Nastya’s foundation of choice: Pelvic Sanctuary is committed to revolutionizing pelvic health education by providing accessible, inclusive, and culturally competent resources.
Let’s connect: @headsouth.world | @headsouthradio | @Kittycatmeyer
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For over 30 years, Steven Ing has dedicated his life to helping others as a marriage and family therapist, with a unique focus on forensic work. He’s a prolific contributor to Psychology Today and the author of two insightful books on sexuality: "We're All Like This" and "Get Busy Living."
Steven’s journey is nothing short of extraordinary. He’s the host of the true-crime podcast Sex Crime Central and co-host of the relationship podcast Managing Love Intelligently. Despite surviving a harrowing attempted murder in 2022, Steven’s resilience led to the publication of his feminist science fiction novel, "Polliwog," in 2023, and his appointment as a community faculty member at the UNR School of Medicine.
Today, Steven and our host Cat Meyer dive deep into the essence of intimacy, human connection, and the multifaceted experience of love. They explore the intricacies of love languages, the importance of emotional intelligence, and the privilege that comes with truly knowing someone. Join us as we uncover the magic of life through the lens of one of the most insightful minds in the field.
In this episode, we discuss the following:
Emotional Intelligence Love Languages The Full Range of Human Experience Sexuality IntimacyYou can find Steven here: @StevenIngMFT | stevening.com
Please support Steven’s foundation of choice: As the grassroots arm of the women’s movement, the National Organization for Women is dedicated to its multi-issue and multi-strategy approach to women’s rights, and is the largest organization of feminist grassroots activists in the United States.
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Today, we're diving into the captivating world of matchmaking with none other than the renowned Amy Van Doran, CEO and founder of Modern Love Club. With an impressive 16-year career in professional matchmaking and over 15,000 interviews with single individuals under her belt, Amy brings a wealth of experience and insights to the table.
In this episode, Amy shares her journey into the world of matchmaking, offering a glimpse into what sparked her passion for helping people find love. Drawing from her vast encounters, she delves into the invaluable lessons she's learned along the way, shedding light on the complexities of human connection and the ever-evolving landscape of modern dating.
But what about dating apps, you might wonder? Amy offers her unique perspective on this ubiquitous phenomenon, exploring its impact on our quest for love and connection. As society grapples with the paradox of increased digital connection and a longing for genuine community, Amy weighs in on the importance of fostering authentic relationships and building meaningful connections beyond the screen.
And for those eager to play Cupid in their own circles, fear not! Amy shares her expert advice on setting up friends and family on dates, offering practical tips for orchestrating successful matches and fostering romance.
So, whether you're a hopeless romantic, a seasoned dater, or simply intrigued by the intricacies of human relationships, join us as we dip into the fascinating world of matchmaking with the one and only Amy Van Doran.
In this episode, we discuss the following:
Amy's journey into professional matchmaking
Human connection and modern dating
The impact of dating apps
Mindfully dating and making connections
Balancing connection and community in the digital age
The importance of fostering authentic relationships
The Loneliness Epidemic
Expert advice on setting up friends and family on dates
You can find Amy here: @amyvandoran & @modernloveclub
Please support Amy’s foundation of choice: World Central Kitchen is a not-for-profit, non-governmental organization that provides food relief.
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Cat Meyer welcomes a very special guest to Head South Radio: her mom, Caridad Meyer. Join them as they share stories and laughs through family history and maternal wisdom.
Cat and her mom delve into the remarkable story of Cat's birth, marked by the tender care of her great-grandmother, who served as the midwife. They also reflect on Cat's poignant experiences witnessing the births of her younger siblings, exploring the emotional aftermath and the resilience that emerged from those moments.
The conversation deepens as they explore the importance of reproductive and sex education and empowerment in raising independent thinkers. Through Cat's upbringing, guided by her mom's nurturing and practical approach, listeners gain insight into fostering autonomy and confidence in life choices.
Join Cat and Caridad for a touching and hilarious exploration of motherhood, parenting, sex and reproductive health.
In this episode, we discuss the following:
Caridad shares her pregnancy and birth stories Caridad talks about her Grandmother who was a Doula/Midwife Caridad’s approach to her children’s Sexual and Reproductive Education Raising Children with Autonomy and Independence
Let’s connect: @headsouth.world | @Kittycatmeyer
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In this episode of Head South Radio, our host Cat Meyer welcomes Dr. Jeannelle Perkins-Muhammad, a psychotherapist and licensed family therapist, to delve into the intricate dynamics of intimacy within relationships. With over two decades of experience, Dr. Perkins-Muhammad offers profound insights from her book, "Into-Me-See," which uncovers the barriers hindering intimacy while providing transformative solutions.
Together, they explore the nuanced layers of intimacy, navigating the complex intersectionality of Black culture and relationships. Dr. Perkins-Muhammad sheds light on systemic influences that impact couples and addresses the role of spirituality in shaping intimacy, confronting associated shame with empathy and understanding.
Throughout the conversation, they discuss practical strategies for fostering self-awareness, enhancing communication, and navigating the challenges faced by long-term couples. From recognizing the signs that signal the need for therapy to reconnecting intimacy with spirituality, this episode offers invaluable wisdom for cultivating deep and lasting connections in relationships. Tune in as they empower listeners to embrace vulnerability and strengthen the unity within their partnerships.
In this episode, we discuss the following:
Exploring intimacy Navigating the intersectionality of Black culture and intimacy Understanding the systemic influences on couples Addressing shame stemming from spirituality Reconnecting intimacy and spirituality Cultivating self-awareness in relationships Enhancing communication and emotional intelligence for deeper understanding Overcoming challenges of long-term couples in maintaining intimacy Recognizing when couples should seek therapyYou can find Dr. Jeannelle here: Instagram: @DrJeannelle | TikTok: @dr.jeannellelmft
Let’s connect: @headsouth.world | @Kittycatmeyer
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In this episode of Head South Radio, we welcome Mia Davis, the dynamic force behind tabú, Tabu Wellness, and Asking for Myself Podcast. Mia, a Stanford University Product Design graduate, shares her transformative journey from trauma to triumph, leading her to become a beacon of sexual empowerment.
Cat and Mia delve into Mia’s career pivot and her pioneering efforts in the field of sexual wellness, culminating in the creation of Talk Tabú. Mia candidly discusses her conservative upbringing and how personal experiences with sexual trauma and pelvic pain ignited her mission to destigmatize conversations around intimacy and pleasure.
Throughout the episode, Mia fearlessly tackles taboo topics such as painful sex, masturbation, and the societal suppression of female pleasure. Together, Cat and Mia explore the negative influences society has on our understanding of pleasure and intimacy, and the urgent need to normalize these discussions for everyone's well-being.
Join Cat Meyer and Mia Davis as they unravel the layers of stigma surrounding sexuality, advocating for greater openness and empowerment in the bedroom and beyond.
In this episode, we discuss the following:
Mia’s career pivot and journey into sexual wellness Starting her company Talk Tabú Unraveling her conservative upbringing Painful Sex Masturbation Society's negative influence on Female Pleasure Destigmatizing conversations around pleasure and intimacyYou can find Mia here: @talk.tabu | @askingfor.myself
Please support Mia’s foundation of choice:
Queer Wellness Network is committed to dismantling systems of oppression, recognizing that Black and queer liberation are the same struggle.By providing community support and resources, QWN can lift up LGBTQ+ and BIPOC people and create a world where difference is valued and people can thrive, no matter how they identify. -
Long-distance relationships can be a rollercoaster of emotions, blending both challenges and rewards. The physical separation often tests even the strongest of bonds, leaving individuals grappling with feelings of loneliness and neglect. But fear not, as today, Adam Jaml is here to shed light on his personal journey through the ups and downs of maintaining a relationship with his fiance, who resides a staggering nine hours ahead of him.
Adam isn't just any guest – he's an expert in the field, having navigated the intricacies of a long-distance relationship firsthand on a few occasions. Throughout our conversation, he'll share invaluable insights, advice, and anecdotes gleaned from his own experiences.
Join us as we uncover the secrets to staying connected, managing time zone disparities, and finding solace amidst the distance. Whether you're currently in an LDR or simply curious about the dynamics involved, this episode promises to offer a wealth of wisdom and inspiration.
In this episode, we discuss the following:
How Adam met his partner Dating during the COVID lockdown The start of his long-distance relationship Utilizing technology to communicate and stay connected (their routine) How long-distance challenges benefit growth Maintaining intimacy and connection with your partner when there isn't physicality How to navigate missing one another Adams proposal and fiancé After-marriage plansYou can find Adam here: @adamjeee
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In today's episode, we are thrilled to welcome a dynamic duo who are transforming the landscape of sexology: E. Michelle and Derrico. Together, they navigate the complexities of human sexuality, guiding couples and individuals toward deeper connections, enhanced intimacy, and more fulfilling relationships.
E. Michelle is a certified sexologist with a wealth of expertise. As the founder of the Pleasure Master’s Institute, she is dedicated to shaping the next generation of sexuality professionals, empowering them to become leaders in the field.
Derrico brings a unique perspective, having immersed himself in the study of the sexuality industry through his partnership with E. Michelle for over a decade. His mission is to break down antiquated patriarchal systems, creating space for men to access pleasure free from shame and judgment.
In our conversation, we explore a myriad of topics, including helping couples navigate intimacy, pleasure, and vulnerability. We delve into the intricacies of working as a couple to support other couples in their journey towards fulfilling relationships and satisfying sex lives. We also tackle important issues such as the Pleasure Gap, debunking gender tropes, and helping individuals discover and embrace their desires.
Join us as we uncover invaluable insights on overcoming performance anxiety, challenging societal stereotypes, and reigniting passion in long-term relationships, including how empty nesters can reconnect with their partners. This episode promises to be enlightening, empowering, and essential for anyone seeking to cultivate deeper intimacy and pleasure in their lives.
In this episode, we discuss the following:
Helping Couples with intimacy, pleasure, and vulnerability
What is the Pleasure Gap?
Debunking gender tropes
Helping women discover pleasure and desire
Helping men with vulnerability and intimacy
Performance anxiety
Gendered societal stereotypes, pressure, and fulfilling roles
Reconciling your beliefs around sex and intimacy
How couples can enhance pleasure and intimacy
Empty nesters and reconnecting with your partner
You can find E. Michelle and Derrico here:
IG: @sexologistemichelle | @sexologist4hire
TT: @thepleasuremasters | @sexologistforhire
Please support their foundations of choice:
The Cupcake Girls provides confidential support to those involved in the sex industry, as well as trauma-informed outreach, advocacy, holistic resources, and referral services to provide prevention and aftercare to those affected by sex trafficking.The Source LGBT+ Center, whose mission is to provide supportive spaces within their communities for LGBTQ+ people to learn, grow, belong, and thrive.
Let’s connect: @headsouth.world | @Kittycatmeyer
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This week we talk to Caitlin V., a certified sex and relationship coach and the host of the show Good Sex, now streaming on Discovery+ and Hbo Max.
With a background in sexual health research, Caitlin has coached thousands, reached millions via YouTube, and even earned internet fame for her groundbreaking approach to performance anxiety.
In this episode, we discuss the following:
Caitlin’s journey as a sex coach Erectile dysfunction Premature or delayed ejaculation Common misconceptions about performance anxiety Couples dealing with performance anxiety Caitlin’s show ‘Good Sex’You can find Caitlin here: @caitlinvictoriousx | Youtube www.youtube.com/caitlinv |
www.caitlinvneal.com
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We have the honor of sitting down with the renowned Dr. Evan Goldstein, the brilliant mind behind Future Method, a sexual wellness brand dedicated to all things anal sex.
Exploring topics surrounding anal play, rectal health, and breaking down the barriers of stigma, today's episode is not only informative but aims to unravel the intricacies of a subject that's often whispered about rather than openly discussed.
Dr. Evan, a trailblazer in the field of sexual health, is here to share his wealth of knowledge, debunk myths, and answer some burning questions, all while encouraging a healthy, shame-free dialogue.
So, whether you're curious, experienced, or just looking to broaden your understanding, this episode promises to be an eye-opener. Dr. Evan even throws in a bold recommendation that might just surprise you!
Get ready to dive deep into the world of anal pleasure and health, as we embark on this enlightening conversation with the incredible Dr. Evan Goldstein.In this episode, we discuss the following:
✨ Dr Evan Goldstein's company, Future Method
✨ Advice around anal play
✨ Anal Anatomy
✨ Tips for tops
✨ Anal Bleaching
✨ Why Dr. Goldstein is anti wet wipe
✨ Anal Sex and Pregnancy
✨ Rimming tips
✨ The nonprofit organization SIECUSYou can find Dr. Evan here: @drevangoldstein | @bespokesurgical | @thefuturemethod
Please support Dr. Evan’s foundation of choice: SIECUS advances sex education through advocacy, policy and coalition building. SIECUS envisions an equitable nation where all people receive sex education, are affirmed in their identities, and have power to make decisions about their own health, pleasure, and wholeness.
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Here is a quickie episode from our host and founder Cat Meyer.
Let’s connect: Head South @headsouth.world | Cat Meyer @kittycatmeyer
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Today, we have the pleasure of talking with Chelsey Forbes, who has graciously agreed to share her personal journey of decision-making and the unique experience of removing her IUD.
Deciding whether to use or discontinue any form of contraception is a deeply personal choice, and our goal today is to create a space for open dialogue, understanding, and empowerment. Chelsey's story is one of self-discovery and the strength it takes to make choices that align with one's own well-being. I greatly appreciate Chelsie’s transparency and vulnerability. In sharing her experiences we hope to shed light on the emotional and physical aspects of this decision, aiming to inspire a sense of community and support in navigating these personal choices.
So, whether you're considering the same path, have already walked a similar one, or are simply curious about the intricacies of this aspect of reproductive health, this episode is bound to provide valuable insights and perhaps even spark a broader conversation around women and individuals who can get pregnant and their health choices.
In this episode, we discuss the following:
✨ What is an IUD?
✨ Chelseys experience with IUDs
✨ Getting off hormonal birth control
✨ Alternatives to hormonal birth control
You can find Chelsey here: @goodcheech | www.chelseyforbes.com
Please support Chelsey’s foundation of choice: The Lower Eastside Girls Club connects young women and gender-expansive youth of color throughout New York City to healthy and successful futures through free, innovative year-round programming and mentoring.
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Today we are talking about Astrology — more specifically, debunking the idea that someone’s Sun sign indicates compatibility. A focus on astrological compatibility may lead individuals to dismiss potentially fulfilling relationships based on predetermined notions. Closing oneself off to someone who doesn't align with a specific astrological profile can result in missed opportunities for genuine connection, personal enrichment, and shared growth.
We’re talking with Sara Q., who enlightens us on the best ways we can utilize tools like astrology and tarot for guidance, insight, personal growth, and better relational connection and understanding of one’s partner(s).
In this episode, we discuss the following:
Exploring the significance of astrological charts in self-discovery
Learning about astrology for personal development and introspection
Unveiling the intricacies of our astrological charts to enhance our understanding of romantic partners
Encouraging people to avoid using astrology or sun signs as a sole compatibility assessment
You can find Sara here: @supernaturalsara
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Part two of our Best Of episode, where we revisit some of our favorite moments from our previous interviews. In this compilation, we've curated highlights from our engaging conversations with three incredible individuals:
Valentin Somma, Danielle Bezalel, Mint El-Mokadm, and Mariah Caudillo
Ep. 17 Masculinity, Vulnerability, and Intimacy with Valentin Somma Ep. 28 Porn and Pleasure with Danielle Bezalel Ep. 20 The State of Sex Education with Mariah Caudillo Ep. 33 Prioritizing Female Pleasure in the Middle East with Mint El-MokadmPlease support our foundation of choice:
The Youth Sexpert Program is a semester-long, virtual training program for high school-enrolled youth ages 14-18. Weekly Zoom sessions range in topics from anatomy to consent to self-pleasure to STI destigmatization to porn literacy. The program is fundamentally pleasure-centered and radically honest, as opposed to fear-driven.
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We're thrilled to have you listen to our very first "Best of" episode, where we revisit some of our favorite moments from our previous interviews. In this compilation, we've curated highlights from our engaging conversations with three incredible individuals: Gay Hendricks, Crystal Sneden, and Kyle Freeman.
Ep. 21: Unpacking Codependency with Gay Hendricks
Ep. 19: Cohabitation & Unraveling a Home After a Breakup with Kyle Freeman
Ep. 6: Lingerie, it’s perception, and what it evokes in us with Crystal Sneden
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