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Tuesday, the Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing titled: ââWhen the President Does It, that Means Itâs Not Illegalâ: The Supreme Courtâs Unprecedented Immunity Decisionâ, and MSNBC legal analyst Mary McCord was called to testify before the committee. She and Andrew Weissmann reflect on what she laid out for the Senators concerning the fallout from the Supreme Courtâs immunity decision. Then, they review the flurry of filings in Trumpâs DC election interference case, where Jack Smithâs team is expected to file a substantial opening brief on Thursday. And lastly, after weeks of harassment and bomb threats, a non-profit group in Springfield, Ohio filed citizen-led criminal charges against Donald Trump and JD Vance for repeating lies that have allegedly led to threats against Haitian immigrants living in the community.
Further reading:
Here is Maryâs opening statement before the Senate Judiciary Committee.Here is the Just Security piece Andrew mentioned from Adam Klasfeld and Ryan Goodman, citing twelve instances of targeting supposed foes during the Trump administration: Chronology of a Dozen Times Trump Pushed to Prosecute His Perceived EnemiesWant to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. As a subscriber youâll also be able to get occasional bonus content from this and other shows.
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As the FBI continues to investigate the second apparent Trump assassination attempt, MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord describe the charges brought and the reasoning behind them. Then, they move to the latest out of Georgia after Judge McAfee dismissed three counts from the 41-count indictment, while allowing the rest to go forward. And lastly, Mary and Andrew welcome Adav Noti, Executive Director of the Campaign Legal Center, to calm some concerns about certain jurisdictions refusing to certify this November's election results.
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MSNBC's Ali Velshi gives a special preview of the second season of the âVelshi Banned Book Club.â Book banning is happening more and more. Removing literature from library shelves, school syllabi, and summer reading lists isnât just blatant censorship; it is the tip of the sword that threatens American democracy itself. In this preview, Ali reflects on why this issues is so personal for him and his family. Listen to the first two episodes now and follow the series: https://link.chtbl.com/vbbcs2_fdlw.
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Weâre thrilled to share a mashup of our MSNBC Live: Democracy 2024 event that we recently held at the Brooklyn Academy of Music. The whole day was a celebration of you, our viewers and listeners. It was the first of its kind in-person, interactive experience. We so enjoyed meeting so many of you. But if you couldnât join us in person, youâre in luck â weâre sharing key conversations in this episode. For more, be sure to check out our TV special airing Saturday, September 14th at 9 p.m. ET. For your reference, here are timecodes for the sessions included here:
Claire McCaskill, Jen Psaki, and Andrea Mitchell 0:01:30-0:31:23Chris Hayes & Kate Shaw 0:31:36-0:51:20
Andrew Weissmann & Ari Melber 0:51:25-1:12:53
Rachel Maddow & Lawrence OâDonnell 1:13:13-1:45:45
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There was a lot of movement late last week in Donald Trumpâs ongoing criminal cases in DC and New York, but with very different results. Veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord review last Thursdayâs status hearing in Trumpâs DC election interference case and break down the new deadlines set in Judge Chutkanâs scheduling order. Then, they dig into the nuance of Judge Merchanâs decision to push back the date of Trumpâs sentencing, as well as delaying his ruling on how immunity applies to the case until after the November election. And before winding up todayâs episode, Mary and Andrew give their uniquely informed take on the DOJâs actions regarding Russian efforts to interfere and influence the 2024 election.
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Last Fridayâs joint filing in the DC election interference case before Judge Chutkan highlighted the deep chasm between Special Counsel Jack Smith and Trumpâs legal team when it comes to how to proceed after the immunity decision. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord give their unique perspective on what both sides offered up and which arguments hold merit. Then, they head to New York to detail the second effort by Trumpâs legal team to remove the hush money case to federal court, weeks before his scheduled sentencing before Judge Merchan.
*** A note: Shortly after this episode was recorded, the federal judge denied leave to Mr. Trump to file removal papers after determining that no good cause for the late filing had been shown and removal to federal court was not warranted. Next stop: Trump can appeal that denial to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals.Also to listeners: MSNBC Live Democracy 2024 is now sold out. Thank you for everyone who signed up to join us this weekend. And if you didnât manage to grab a ticket, weâll be posting selections of Saturdayâs conversations as a podcast next week, so keep an eye out for that.
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Sooner than expected, itâs our 100th episode! In the latest event triggered by SCOTUSâ ruling on presidential immunity, special counsel Jack Smith has filed a superseding indictment in the election interference case against former President Donald Trump. So in an extra episode for you this week, former prosecutors Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann weigh in on whatâs been added and struck from the prosecutionâs allegations, Jack Smithâs strategy, and what this means for the case moving forward.
Read the new superseding indictment and accompanying filing, along with last yearâs original indictment.
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And be sure to grab your tickets for MSNBC Live Democracy 2024 on Sept 7th! Join fellow fans and viewers for an event connecting you with MSNBC's most trusted hosts and experts. Rachel Maddow, Steve Kornacki, Andrew Weissmann and many more. All in one place. All live on stage. All in one day.
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In an attempt to revive the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case thrown out by Judge Aileen Cannon last month, Special Counsel Jack Smith has now filed a brief with the U.S. Court of Appeals, a day early no less. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord discuss Jack Smithâs arguments in the brief asserting that Judge Cannon had wrongfully ruled the special counsel had been appointed illegally. Then, looking ahead at proposals in the January 6 case expected to be filed later this week. And we take some of your listener questions!
Following this recording, it was reported that Jack Smith revised his indictment in the January 6th case to address the Supreme Court's ruling on immunity. A procedural filing is still expected this coming Friday, August 30th.
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As Donald Trumpâs sentencing date approaches, he and his lawyers are throwing all the spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord break down the former presidentâs request to adjourn his sentencing until after the election, and the Manhattan DAâs response. Then, ProPublica reporter Joshua Kaplan joins for a deep dive into his reporting on unlawful American militia groups. Andrew and Mary talk with him about the threat these paramilitary groups pose, how theyâve used Trumpâs denial of the election results for recruitment and spreading their ideology, as well as the dangers of collaboration with law enforcement.
Here is Josh Kaplanâs ProPublica investigation: Armed and Underground: Inside the Turbulent, Secret World of an American Militia. (Included is a response from Meta about the use of Facebook as a recruitment tool.)
Also a note: We're expecting a joint filing in the DC case next Tuesday, so weâll release our episode on Wednesday so Mary and Andrew can detail what's in that filing.
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After Judge Tanya Chutkan raced back to the starting line in former President Trumpâs DC election interference case, Special Counsel Jack Smith asked for a reporting extension to ensure the government can make its case within the new immunity parameters. Veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord analyze the reasons behind this delay, then offer some scheduling updates in Trumpâs other criminal cases in Florida, Georgia and New York. Plus: a look at why Vice President Harris is choosing her words carefully when it comes to her opponentâs ongoing criminal matters.
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And be sure to grab your tickets for Sept 7th: Join fellow fans and viewers for an interactive experience connecting you with MSNBC's most trusted hosts and experts. Rachel Maddow, Steve Kornacki, Jen Psaki, Andrew Weissmann and many more. All in one place. All live on stage. All in one day. https://www.msnbc.com/Democracy2024
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Judge Chutkan is not allowing any grass grow under her feet after Trumpâs DC election interference case was sent back to her courtroom. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord review her hearing schedule set to begin next week, and offer some detail on her denial of Trumpâs motion to dismiss the case on selective and vindictive grounds. Then, the fallout from the Supreme Courtâs immunity decision continues to echo, as Trump era DOJ official Jeffrey Clark is the latest to try for proceedings against him to be thrown out based on the High Courtâs ruling. And lastly, a peek at Jenna Ellisâ cooperation in the Arizona elector case and some listener questions.
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And be sure to grab your tickets for Sept 7th: Join fellow fans and viewers for an interactive experience connecting you with MSNBC's most trusted hosts and experts. Rachel Maddow, Steve Kornacki, Jen Psaki, Andrew Weissmann and many more. All in one place. All live on stage. All in one day. https://www.msnbc.com/Democracy2024
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What aspects of a presidentâs conduct are considered âofficial actsâ? This is a live issue in several of Donald Trumpâs criminal cases. Veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord detail Manhattan DA Alvin Braggâs response brief to Donald Trumpâs argument that the immunity ruling should impact his New York verdict. Then, they remind us of Mark Meadowsâ indictment in Georgia as part of the RICO conspiracy case. Citing the immunity decision, Meadows has now petitioned the Supreme Court to review the previous 11th Circuit denial to move his case from state to federal court. And lastly, after the High Courtâs immunity decision, the DC January 6th case heads back to Judge Tanya Chutkan's courtroom later this week, where briefing will begin to sort through what is considered official, versus personal conduct.
And be sure to grab your tickets for Sept 7th: Join fellow fans and viewers for an interactive experience connecting you with MSNBC's most trusted hosts and experts. Rachel Maddow, Steve Kornacki, Jen Psaki, Andrew Weissmann and many more. All in one place. All live on stage. All in one day. https://www.msnbc.com/Democracy2024
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On Monday, July 22nd, MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord spoke at a live event at the Center for Life Enrichment in Highlands, North Carolina. They touched on President Bidenâs historic decision to exit the race, and the legal ramifications it could hold for Trumpâs continuing criminal cases. Mary and Andrew also address the question of whether a president can pardon himself, and to what extent. And they detail the reasoning laid out in Trumpâs motion to vacate his New York conviction based on the Supreme Courtâs decision on presidential immunity, and if any of the arguments hold water.
Note: Listeners can send questions to: [email protected]
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After a traumatic weekend for the nation, MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord use their law enforcement expertise to take stock of the alarming assassination attempt of former President Trump. Then, they turn to Mondayâs stunning dismissal of Trumpâs classified documents case, after Judge Aileen Cannon took a page from Justice Clarence Thomasâ concurrence to view Jack Smithâs appointment as illegal. Andrew and Mary explain what options are available to the Special Counsel in appealing the dismissal.
Further reading: Here is are the U.S. Codes Mary and Andrew referred to:
18 U.S.C. 351- Congressional, Cabinet, and Supreme Court assassination, kidnapping, and assault; penalties18 U.S.C. 2331 (5) - definition of âdomestic terrorismâ -
As last weekâs historic Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity continues to be absorbed in the public sphere, the majorityâs expansive view of what is considered exempt from prosecution comes into stark relief. Given their unique perspectives, veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord explore the knock-on effects the ruling will have on Donald Trumpâs ongoing cases in Florida, New York and D.C.
Note: Listeners can send questions to: [email protected]
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As the fallout from the momentous Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity continues to reverberate, MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord offer some updates, then turn to another significant ruling from the High Court out on Friday: Fisher v. U.S. At issue was whether the charge of obstruction of an official proceeding could be applied to Capitol rioters in the wake of their actions on January 6th. Despite the ruling in favor of the defendant, their guest Ryan Goodman of Just Security confirms the limited impact this decision will have on those charged for their role in the chaos of January 6th, and on Donald Trumpâs election interference case in D.C.
Further reading: Here is the analysis Ryan, Mary and Andrew wrote regarding the Fischer decision for Just Security: The Limited Effects of Fischer: DOJ Data Reveals Supreme Courtâs Narrowing of Jan. 6th Obstruction Charges Will Have Minimal Impact.
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The consequential question before the Supreme Court on the limit and scope of presidential immunity has been decided, in three essential buckets. Veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord decipher the ramifications for the former president, for the January 6th case brought by Special Counsel Jack Smith, and for the broad constitutional authority of the presidency itself. And they are joined by Trevor Morrison, NYU law professor and Dean Emeritus, to discern the finer points of the decision and the warnings cast in dissents by both Justice Sotomayor and Justice Jackson.
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There has been a slew of hearings before Judge Aileen Cannon in the Florida documents case over the past few days, and veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord examine why some of these seem like unnecessary delays. Then, why Manhattan D.A. Alvin Bragg is asking for the limited gag order to continue in New York as Donald Trump awaits sentencing. And lastly, Mary and Andrew game out some scenarios as we hurry up and wait for the Supreme Court to decide on presidential immunity.
Also, an exciting announcement! On Saturday, September 7th, MSNBC will be hosting a live event in Brooklyn called âMSNBC Live: Democracy 2024â. It will be your chance to hear thought-provoking conversations about the most pressing issues of our time, and to do so in person with some of your favorite MSNBC hosts. You can also take part in a sit-down dinner for an insiderâs view of the upcoming election. Visit https://www.msnbc.com/DEMOCRACY2024 to learn more.
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This week, MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord dive deep into several pending motions, including Jack Smithâs pre-trial motion to modify Trump's conditions of release in the Florida documents case, which would effectively impose a gag order, just under a different legal principle. Plus: Trumpâs push to end the post-trial gag order in New York. And what's at issue in the suppression motion also filed in Florida that Judge Cannon will hear next Tuesday. Last up: a preview of Fischer v. United States, a pending Supreme Court case that could have a trickle-down effect on Trumpâs DC case.
Note: Listeners can send questions to: [email protected]
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Former President Trump awaits his sentencing in New York, but he wants the gag order lifted in the meantime. Is that typical? Veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord break down that motion, and the mechanics of sentencing in the lead up to July 11th. They also highlight Attorney General Merrick Garlandâs recent op-ed calling for an end to escalated assaults on our judicial system in the wake of Trumpâs verdict in Manhattan. Last up, Andrew and Mary scrutinize Judge Cannonâs schedule revisions for several motions in Florida documents case, and analyze the significance of Georgia racketeering case being stayed pending appeal.
Further reading: Here is Attorney General Merrick Garlandâs OpEd in the Washington Post that Andrew and Mary spoke about: Opinion- Merrick Garland: Unfounded attacks on the Justice Department must end
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