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IN part two of our focus on polarisations we look at polarisations involving more than two parts, polarisations across systems, eg, between client and therapist or parent and child; and addictive processes. We also discuss navigating conflicts in the wider world and how we can bring more Self to difficult conversations.
*Details of the film we refer to: The Crisis in Gaza - Navigating difficult conversations: A Q&A with Dr Gabor Mate and Daniel Mate (available on the Science and Non-Duality website or YouTube)Emma E Redfern MBACP (Snr Accred) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. Emma is a certified IFS psychotherapist as well as approved IFS clinical consultant. She edited Internal Family Systems Therapy: supervision and consultation (2022, Routledge) and authored Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge). Her most recent publication, co-edited with Helen Foot, is Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room (2023) .
See www.emmaredfern.co.uk for details of workshops and articles as well as books. You can also follow Emma on Linked In.
Gayle Williamson (MIACP) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. She took one of the alternative routes to IFS training now available, through IFSCA and the Adler College, Canada.
She works fulltime as a pure-IFS psychotherapist and also writes widely on mental health. Her most recent article 'The Myth of Mental Illness' is published in the latest IAHIP professional journal. Gayle runs small-group, online trainings and skills workshops for IFS beginners as well as group supervision. She also edited Emma's book, Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners.
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After taking a break for summer, we're back with a new episode focusing on polarisations.
Being able to detect relationships between parts, particularly parts who are fighting against each other, has lots of benefits - including reducing the inner conflict that many people experience as well as easing any stuckness a client may be experiencing in their life.
We discuss what exactly polarisations are, and suggest a three-stage progression for how a therapist might develop their skills in working with them. We give examples of common polarisations and also look at how therapist and client parts may polarise with each other.
There's so much to look at here, so we'll be following up with a part two on this topic, where we'll look at addictive processes and polarisations in the wider world.Emma E Redfern MBACP (Snr Accred) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. Emma is a certified IFS psychotherapist as well as approved IFS clinical consultant. She edited Internal Family Systems Therapy: supervision and consultation (2022, Routledge) and authored Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge). Her most recent publication, co-edited with Helen Foot, is Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room (2023) .
See www.emmaredfern.co.uk for details of workshops and articles as well as books. You can also follow Emma on Linked In.
Gayle Williamson (MIACP) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. She took one of the alternative routes to IFS training now available, through IFSCA and the Adler College, Canada.
She works fulltime as a pure-IFS psychotherapist and also writes widely on mental health. Her most recent article 'The Myth of Mental Illness' is published in the latest IAHIP professional journal. Gayle runs small-group, online trainings and skills workshops for IFS beginners as well as group supervision. She also edited Emma's book, Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners.
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In today's episode, we’re focusing on parts detecting - a key IFS skill to develop that is crucial to maintaining confidence and clarity in the work.
We cover:
- 'Universal truth' parts
- The weaponising of parts
- flexible thinking and not boxing parts in
- examples of interesting parts detected
- as well as a parts detecting test for listeners!
Emma and Gayle also talk about the importance of therapist transparency, and of not claiming to offer IFS therapy if you are not actually detecting parts and using the protocols.Emma E Redfern MBACP (Snr Accred) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. Emma is a certified IFS psychotherapist as well as approved IFS clinical consultant. She edited Internal Family Systems Therapy: supervision and consultation (2022, Routledge) and authored Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge). Her most recent publication, co-edited with Helen Foot, is Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room (2023) .
See www.emmaredfern.co.uk for details of workshops and articles as well as books. You can also follow Emma on Linked In.
Gayle Williamson (MIACP) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. She took one of the alternative routes to IFS training now available, through IFSCA and the Adler College, Canada.
She works fulltime as a pure-IFS psychotherapist and also writes widely on mental health. Her most recent article 'The Myth of Mental Illness' is published in the latest IAHIP professional journal. Gayle runs small-group, online trainings and skills workshops for IFS beginners as well as group supervision. She also edited Emma's book, Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners.
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IN today's fascinating episode, the second of two on this topic, we're focusing on how parts affect our health, how our bodies affect our parts and how body sensations and illnesses can be approached as valuable trailheads.
We discuss how there is no separation between mind and body; the concept of 'unwellness'; the ingenuity of dissociating parts; and the importance for some people at times of crisis in the body of having supportive body therapies alongside IFS sessions. However, we also make the point that the idea of 'somatic IFS' is redundant.. that actually, working with parts means you are inevitably always working with the body.
Among several interesting case examples, we look at:
- working with a part causing nosebleeds to stop anger; and
- an example of a spiritual bypass that includes meeting a part causing low energy.
**Sending appreciation and thanks to the clients who agreed to some of their case material being shared for this episode. Identifying details have been removed.Emma E Redfern MBACP (Snr Accred) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. Emma is a certified IFS psychotherapist as well as approved IFS clinical consultant. She edited Internal Family Systems Therapy: supervision and consultation (2022, Routledge) and authored Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge). Her most recent publication, co-edited with Helen Foot, is Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room (2023) .
See www.emmaredfern.co.uk for details of workshops and articles as well as books. You can also follow Emma on Linked In.
Gayle Williamson (MIACP) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. She took one of the alternative routes to IFS training now available, through IFSCA and the Adler College, Canada.
She works fulltime as a pure-IFS psychotherapist and also writes widely on mental health. Her most recent article 'The Myth of Mental Illness' is published in the latest IAHIP professional journal. Gayle runs small-group, online trainings and skills workshops for IFS beginners as well as group supervision. She also edited Emma's book, Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners.
See www.ferneytherapy.ie for further info, resources and Gayle's articles. -
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IN today's fascinating episode, which is part one of two, we're focusing on how parts affect our health, how our bodies affect our parts and how body sensations and illnesses can be approached as valuable trailheads.
Among several interesting case examples, Gayle describes:
- helping a pregnant client talk to her baby - highlighting that we don't need to be afraid of working with so-called 'pre-verbal' parts;
- working with a part that was causing frightening throat spasms;
- working with parts causing 'OCD'-type behaviours; and
- working with a part that caused a client to lose her voice.
And Emma shares her insights on these cases as well as personal examples of how her own parts have impacted her health.
**Sending appreciation and thanks to the clients who agreed to some of their case material being shared for this episode. Identifying details have been removed.Emma E Redfern MBACP (Snr Accred) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. Emma is a certified IFS psychotherapist as well as approved IFS clinical consultant. She edited Internal Family Systems Therapy: supervision and consultation (2022, Routledge) and authored Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge). Her most recent publication, co-edited with Helen Foot, is Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room (2023) .
See www.emmaredfern.co.uk for details of workshops and articles as well as books. You can also follow Emma on Linked In.
Gayle Williamson (MIACP) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. She took one of the alternative routes to IFS training now available, through IFSCA and the Adler College, Canada.
She works fulltime as a pure-IFS psychotherapist and also writes widely on mental health. Her most recent article 'The Myth of Mental Illness' is published in the latest IAHIP professional journal. Gayle runs small-group, online trainings and skills workshops for IFS beginners as well as group supervision. She also edited Emma's book, Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners.
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In today's episode, we're hoping to inspire therapists to embrace the variety that IFS brings to supervision. We cover a lot, including:
· Examples of individual and group IFS supervision
· Differentiating the role of the IFSI Approved Clinical Consultant and IFS supervision
· The importance of regular supervision, e.g. when consciously transitioning to IFS
· The different focus points/facets of IFS supervision
· Working with Figuring Out parts and Drama Triangle partsYou'll find details of the books and papers we make reference to in the show below, as well as other useful resources:
Emma's books: Internal Family Systems Therapy: Supervision and Consultation - 1st Ed (routledge.com);
Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge)
- Aisling McMahon, Ciaran Jennings & Gillian O’Brien (2022) A naturalistic, observational study of the Seven-Eyed model of supervision, The Clinical Supervisor, 41:1, 47-69, DOI: 10.1080/07325223.2021.2022060 To link to this article: https://doi.org/10.1080/07325223.2021.2022060Upcoming CPD opportunity: Emma is presenting a series of workshops on the Drama Triangle on the online training platform, Online Events. Find out more information at Onlinevents: Workshops with Emma Redfern | Eventbrite
Emma E Redfern MBACP (Snr Accred) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. Emma is a certified IFS psychotherapist as well as approved IFS clinical consultant. She edited Internal Family Systems Therapy: supervision and consultation (2022, Routledge) and authored Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge). Her most recent publication, co-edited with Helen Foot, is Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room (2023) .
See www.emmaredfern.co.uk for details of workshops and articles as well as books. You can also follow Emma on Linked In.
Gayle Williamson (MIACP) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. She took one of the alternative routes to IFS training now available, through IFSCA and the Adler College, Canada.
She works fulltime as a pure-IFS psychotherapist and also writes widely on mental health. Her most recent article 'The Myth of Mental Illness' is published in the latest IAHIP professional journal. Gayle runs small-group, online trainings and skills workshops for IFS beginners as well as group supervision. She also edited Emma's book, Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners.
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IN today's episode, it's part two of our focus on the updating process and meeting Self. We look at a fairly advanced case example in detail and go through it step by step.
How to recognise the difference between compassion and empathyThe need to be more directive as an IFS therapistWhy parts hide SelfA timeline of the work
The case - involving Hazel**, and her parts Coco (an exile) and Storeen (a protector) - highlights the importance of persistence (one of the 5Ps of the therapist Self), and of being able to differentiating between Self and a Self-like part.
Other aspects we cover include:
**With many thanks to the client who agreed to this content being shared. Her identity has been protected and Hazel is a pseudonym; Coco and Storeen are, however, the chosen names of her parts.Emma E Redfern MBACP (Snr Accred) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. Emma is a certified IFS psychotherapist as well as approved IFS clinical consultant. She edited Internal Family Systems Therapy: supervision and consultation (2022, Routledge) and authored Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge). Her most recent publication, co-edited with Helen Foot, is Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room (2023) .
See www.emmaredfern.co.uk for details of workshops and articles as well as books. You can also follow Emma on Linked In.
Gayle Williamson (MIACP) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. She took one of the alternative routes to IFS training now available, through IFSCA and the Adler College, Canada.
She works fulltime as a pure-IFS psychotherapist and also writes widely on mental health. Her most recent article 'The Myth of Mental Illness' is published in the latest IAHIP professional journal. Gayle runs small-group, online trainings and skills workshops for IFS beginners as well as group supervision. She also edited Emma's book, Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners.
See www.ferneytherapy.ie for further info, resources and Gayle's articles. -
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Today we focus on updating parts - a process that is much more than just telling a part your present day, adult age. There are many reasons why we do the update with protectors, but it's particularly helpful in negotiating a Self-to-part relationship. We describe various scenarios you often face during updating and provide a lot of the language around this, including case material on handling protectors who dismiss the update information and a dominant figuring out protector who "knows" the client's current age. We also differentiate between the kind of updates that are available, highlighting:
· Why the difference in age between the client and their parts matters
· How the chronological age of the client doesn’t equate to Self
· Differences in safety and resources now from in the past
· The passage of time and how by meeting Self, protectors get to have options.
There's going to be a part 2 to this topic in the next episode, which will look indepth at one case example.
Client permission has been obtained for the case material we share.Emma E Redfern MBACP (Snr Accred) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. Emma is a certified IFS psychotherapist as well as approved IFS clinical consultant. She edited Internal Family Systems Therapy: supervision and consultation (2022, Routledge) and authored Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge). Her most recent publication, co-edited with Helen Foot, is Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room (2023) .
See www.emmaredfern.co.uk for details of workshops and articles as well as books. You can also follow Emma on Linked In.
Gayle Williamson (MIACP) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. She took one of the alternative routes to IFS training now available, through IFSCA and the Adler College, Canada.
She works fulltime as a pure-IFS psychotherapist and also writes widely on mental health. Her most recent article 'The Myth of Mental Illness' is published in the latest IAHIP professional journal. Gayle runs small-group, online trainings and skills workshops for IFS beginners as well as group supervision. She also edited Emma's book, Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners.
See www.ferneytherapy.ie for further info, resources and Gayle's articles. -
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TRIGGER WARNING: We discuss how to talk to suicidal parts from around the 24-minute mark, but we don't go into any detail about a particular experience of suicide.
On today's show, we discuss the vital skill of direct access, and in particular, what we call broadcast direct access. It's an aspect of direct access that doesn't get much talked about but is so valuable to learn.
Essentially it's when a therapist speaks directly to the client's system as a whole or to a group of protectors, as opposed to talking to one protector at a time. Gayle shares two client cases to give some of the language around using broadcast direct access; and Emma then offers valuable examples of how to negotiate with a protector urging suicide using explicit direct access.
* Client permission has been obtained for the case material shared.Emma E Redfern MBACP (Snr Accred) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. Emma is a certified IFS psychotherapist as well as approved IFS clinical consultant. She edited Internal Family Systems Therapy: supervision and consultation (2022, Routledge) and authored Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge). Her most recent publication, co-edited with Helen Foot, is Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room (2023) .
See www.emmaredfern.co.uk for details of workshops and articles as well as books. You can also follow Emma on Linked In.
Gayle Williamson (MIACP) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. She took one of the alternative routes to IFS training now available, through IFSCA and the Adler College, Canada.
She works fulltime as a pure-IFS psychotherapist and also writes widely on mental health. Her most recent article 'The Myth of Mental Illness' is published in the latest IAHIP professional journal. Gayle runs small-group, online trainings and skills workshops for IFS beginners as well as group supervision. She also edited Emma's book, Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners.
See www.ferneytherapy.ie for further info, resources and Gayle's articles. -
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In this our first episode, we talk about why we wanted to do this podcast, why we think IFS is best used without integrating other approaches and explore what is meant by saying that IFS is a complete model.
the mixed messaging about how IFS should be used.the benefits of knowing that IFS has just about everything you would need as a therapist or IFS practitioner.what is and isn't 'pure' IFSthe need to temper expectations regarding how many of the healing steps we can use with certain clients, such as those with complex trauma.
We also discuss:Emma E Redfern MBACP (Snr Accred) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. Emma is a certified IFS psychotherapist as well as approved IFS clinical consultant. She edited Internal Family Systems Therapy: supervision and consultation (2022, Routledge) and authored Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners (2023, Routledge). Her most recent publication, co-edited with Helen Foot, is Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room (2023) .
See www.emmaredfern.co.uk for details of workshops and articles as well as books. You can also follow Emma on Linked In.
Gayle Williamson (MIACP) initially trained in humanistic integrative psychotherapy. She took one of the alternative routes to IFS training now available, through IFSCA and the Adler College, Canada.
She works fulltime as a pure-IFS psychotherapist and also writes widely on mental health. Her most recent article 'The Myth of Mental Illness' is published in the latest IAHIP professional journal. Gayle runs small-group, online trainings and skills workshops for IFS beginners as well as group supervision. She also edited Emma's book, Transitioning to Internal Family Systems Therapy: A companion for therapists and practitioners.
See www.ferneytherapy.ie for further info, resources and Gayle's articles.
