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This errata contains corrections, clarifications, and discussion of the following episodes:
The Hot House Bound in Mystery and Shadow Exceeding Great The Spirit of Capitalism Made Flesh Suffer Little Children Scarlet Billows A Warning To Future Man 520% Unto Us A Child Is Born Errata #3 Fruitcake Subculture Conspiracy Revisited The Realest Housewife of Beverly Hills The First Battle of the American Revolution Steampunk Google and the World City Fuller HousesWe're going on hiatus for a few months. We'll be back in mid-August with a fresh series of all-new episodes!
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For our milestone episode #100 we contemplate one of the most confounding conundrums of our age... How old is Charo, really?
00:00 Intro
00:32 Banter
02:00 Nothing But A Number
02:32 God I Feel Old
05:09 All That Matters is How Young Your Feel
07:44 I Don't Actually Care
10:28 Sources
10:48 Special Thanks
12:56 OutroKey sources for this episode include Wikipedia and contemporary newspaper reports.
Full sources, transcript, links, and more at https://order-of-the-jackalope.com/nothing-but-a-number/
A special thanks to everyone who helped us reach this amazing milestone, including: A.J. Sutton, Alex Baumans, Charlotte Lochinski, Chris White, David Blomenberg, David L. White, Dorothy White, Eric Leslie, Fearful Jesuit, Greg Armstrong, Jenn Voss, Jim Munizza, Kieran Davy, Kristen Harkness, Liz Roberts, Michael Finney, Richard Le Poidevin, Rob Brunksill, Robert B. White III, Robert Sibole, Rod Miller, Sam Link, Steven White, Tom Hand, Zane C. Weber... and you, our wonderful listeners.
After this episode we're going on hiatus for a few months. We'll be back in mid-August with a fresh series of all-new episodes!
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In the early Twentieth Century, Joe Magarac was the American steel industry's answer to Paul Bunyan. And then it was discovered he might not be an authentic folk tale, but a relatively recent invention...
https://order-of-the-jackalope.com/jackass-forever/
Key sources for this episode include Owen Francis's "The Saga of Joe Magarac: Steelman"; Jennifer Gilley and Stephen Burnet's "Deconstructing and Reconstructing Pittsburgh's Man of Steel: Reading Joe Magarac Against the Context of the 20th-Century Steel Industry"; Kevin J. Patrick's "Joe Magarac and the Spirit of Pittsburgh"; and Marshal W. Fishwick's "Sons of Paul: Folklore or Fakelore?".
What I really recommend, though, is Irwin Shapiro's Joe Magarac and his U.S.A Citizen Papers. The dialect is charming instead of grating, the location- and period-authentic detail helps keep everything grounded, the jokes are actually funny, and the moral is still relevant today. And on top of that you have some really powerful illustrations by James Daugherty. Five stars, A+, would read again.
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"Wyoming's own midget mummy" was found in the San Pedro Mountains in 1932 and mystified thousands before disappearing in 1950. but what was he? A little person, a baby, a fake? And where the heck did he get off to?
https://order-of-the-jackalope.com/vote-for-pedro/
Key sources for this episode include Aaron Mahnke's The World of Lore: Monstrous Creatures; Charles J. Cazeau and Stuart D. Scott's Exploring the Unknown: Great Mysteries Reexamined; Jeremy Fugelberg's "The Mysterious Pedro Mountain Mummy"; Richard Marshall's Mysteries of the Unexplained; and contemporary newspaper reports.
And sincere apologies to the Cryptonaturalist (https://www.cryptonaturalist.com/) for biting his style.
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R. Buckminster Fuller's Dymaxion House was a marvel of modern technology that promised to create freedom by liberating the mind and curing all of society's problems... so why aren't you living in one right now?
https://order-of-the-jackalope.com/fuller-houses/
Key sources for this episode include Jonathon Keats' You Belong to the Universe: Buckminster Fuller and the Future; Lloyd Steven Sieden's Buckminster Fuller's Universe: His Life and His Work; and Michael Brian Schiffer's Spectacular Flops: Game-Changing Technologies That Failed... but especially Lorettta Lorance's Becoming Bucky Fuller, which is both the most thorough and most critical biography of Fuller and definitely worth checking out.
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Paul Otlet had a vision of an system that could search all the information ever created, from anywhere in the world, at the touch of a button... Too bad the most advanced technologies at his disposal were index cards.
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https://order-of-the-jackalope.com/steampunk-google-and-the-world-city/Key sources for this episode include Alex Wrightâs Cataloging the World: Paul Otlet and the Birth of the Information Age; Françoise Levieâs Lâhomme qui voulait classer le monde: Paul Otlet et le Mundaneum; Paul Otletâs TraitĂ© de documentation: Le livre sur le livre; Paul Otlet, Fondateur du Mundaneum, Architecte du savoir, Artisan de paix; and the newspaper archive of the KBR.
Presented by #42 (Alex Baumans). Pathologically interested in anything unusual and obscure. Closet goth, armchair general and amateur theologian. Favorite animals are ducks, octopodes and pigs. You will also find me surprisingly knowledgable about K-Pop girl groups.
Special thanks to the Collection Mundaneum in Mons for their assistance (http://www.mundaneum.org/en) and for providing images for our use. This episode is released under a Creative Commons except for the images, which may not be reproduced without the express permission of the Mundaneum.
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Everyone knows the first battles of the American Revolution were Lexington and Concord... unless, that is, you live in Point Pleasant, West Virginia.
https://order-of-the-jackalope.com/the-first-battle-of-the-american-revolution/
Key sources for this episode include Randolf C. Downes's "Dunmore's War: An Interpretation"; J.T. McAllister's "The Battle of Point Pleasant"; Virgil Lewis's History of the Battle of Point Pleasant, Fought Between White Men and Indians at the Mouth of the Great Kanawha River (Now Point Pleasant, West Virginia) Monday, October 10, 1774; Glen Williams' Dunmore's War: The Last Conflict of America's Colonial Era; and West Virginia History's "Manufactured History: Re-Fighting the Battle of Point Pleasant".
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In which a mysterious lost people living in the mountains of Tennessee turn out to not be so mysterious after all... and maybe not even all that lost, if the Internet can be believed.
Transcript, sources, and more: https://order-of-the-jackalope.com/neither-here-nor-there/
Key sources for this episode include Anita Puckett's "The Melungeon Identity Movement and the Construction of Appalachian Whiteness", Ariela Gross's "Of Portuguese Origin: Litigating Identity and Citizenship among the Little Races in Nineteenth-Century America", Brewton Berry's Almost White, Jean Patterson Bible's Melungeons Yesterday and Today, Katherine Vande Brake's Through the Back Door: Melungeon Literacies and Twenty-First Century Technologies, Melissa Schrift's Becoming Melungeon: Making an Ethnic Identity in the Appalachian South, N. Brent Kennedy's The Melungeons: The Resurrection of a Proud People, Tim Hashaw's Children of Perdition: Melungeons and the Struggle of Mixed America, and Will Allen Dromgoole's The Malungeon Tree and Its Four Branches.
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In 1837 Canadians tried and failed to overthrow the British government. The revolution seemed over... and then the Redcoats seized an American ship, set it on fire, and sent it over Niagara Falls, prolonging the conflict for years.
Transcript, sources and more available at https://order-of-the-jackalope.com/dangerous-excitement/
Key sources for this episode include Edwin C. Guillet's The Lives and Times of the Patriots: An Account of the Rebellion in Upper Canada, 1837-1838, and of the Patriot Agitation in the United States, 1837-1842; Howard Jones's To The Webster-Ashburton Treaty: A Study in Anglo-American Relations, 1783-1843; Kenneth R. Stevens's Border Diplomacy: The Caroline and McLeod Affairs in Anglo-American-Canadian Relations, 1837-1842; Kyle Ward's History in the Making; Orrin Edward Tiffany's The Relations of the United States to the Canadian Rebellion of 1837-1838; R. Bruce Taylor's "Anxious Moments in Frontier History"; and Robert Remini's Daniel Webster: The Man and His Time.
Also, a special thanks to #28 for letting me borrow his copy of John Niven's Martin Van Buren: The Romantic Age of American Politics and hang on to it for far too long.
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An instructive little tale where Victorian scholars look back at five centuries of arms and armor and just start making stuff up, because they're just ever-so-clever.
https://order-of-the-jackalope.com/armor-class-4/
Key sources for this episode include Charles Henry Ashdown's "Armour & Weapons in the Middle Ages"; Charles John Ffoulkes's "The Armorer and His Craft from the XIth to the XVI Century"; John Hewitt's "Ancient Armor and Weapons in Europe, from the Iron Period of the Northern Nations to the End of the Seventeenth Century"; the "Dungeons & Dragons Player's Handbook" for first, second, third, fourth, and fifth editions; and contemporary issues of Dragon Magazine.
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Countess Dorothy di Frasso was the most famous hostess in the world, who threw parties for kings and queens, dukes and barons; actors, athletes and aviators; Nazis, Fasists, and mobsters. This is the story of her amazing life.
https://order-of-the-jackalope.com/the-realest-housewife-of-beverly-hills/
Key sources for this episode include Graham Wallace's "Claude Grahame-White: A Biography"; Yvonne Elet's "Architectural Invention in Renaissance Rome: Artists, Humanists, and the Planning of Raphael's Villa Madama"; Hector Arce's "Gary Cooper: An Intimate Biography"; Elsa Maxwell's "I Married the World"; Dean Southern Jennings' "We Only Kill Each Other"; and contemporary newspaper reports.
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This week we're highlighting the Penny Peepshow (https://play.acast.com/s/the-penny-peepshow/), which returns from its long hiatus with a new season of The Pirate Queen! Join Captain Alice Conway as she deals with the loss of the Fat Wench and searches for her missing crew!
The Curiosity of a Child: Tales of Treasure
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Listen up, fruitcake... or, rather, listen up -- fruitcake! This week #7 (Dorothy White) drops by to tell you everything you never wanted to know about Christmas's most maligned tradition.
https://order-of-the-jackalope.com/fruitcake-subculture-conspiracy-revisited/
The only key source for this episode is #7's own Texas Cooking article âFruitcake Subculture Conspiracyâ but she consulted a number of other sources as well; including Marc Abrahamsâ âMilitary Experiments on Fruitcakeâ, David Cashionâs The Dreaded Feast, Harold McGeeâs On Food and Cooking, Glenn Warrenâs Seasonâs Eatings podcast, and dozens of newspaper articles and web sites.
Presented by #7 (Dorothy White). Voluptuary. Raconteur. Artist wannabe. Travel junkie. Photographer of Pearl. In thrall to Vampire Andy. Teacher of culinary arts.
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For seven years he lived in hell, tormented nightly by a demon cat and the grim spectre of death. Finally, an angel told him what he had to do to end it all: kill the Witch of Ringtown Valley.
https://order-of-the-jackalope.com/seven-years-in-hell/
Key sources for this episode include Arthur Lewis's Hex and contemporary newspaper reports.
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The story of Borley Rectory, the most haunted house in England... Just remember that the most haunted and least haunted house are the exact same amount of haunted.
https://order-of-the-jackalope.com/the-fakiest-fake-in-england/
Key sources for this episode include Harry Price's The Most Haunted House in England and The End of Borley Rectory; Eric J. Dingwall et al.'s The Haunting of Borley Rectory; Trevor Hall's The Search for Harry Price; Robert Wood's The Widow of Borley; and Andrew Clarke's Bones of Borley web site.
(If you're interested in the case, I would also recommend Paul Adams et al.'s The Borley Rectory Companion; it's commendably thorough if also occasionally mind-numbingly tedious.)
The Constant: "Gef" https://www.constantpodcast.com/episodes/gef
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This one has it all: the afterlife, encyclopedia salesmen, evil stepmothers, Kickapoo princesses, New Yorkers with more money than sense, the Empress Alexandra, bigamy and fraud, ghost farts and spirit chickens.
https://order-of-the-jackalope.com/a-good-thing-to-die-by/
Key sources for this episode include Mary E. Cadwallader's "Mary S. Vanderbilt: A Twentieth Century Seer", Mira Ptacin's "The In-Betweens: The Spiritualists, Mediums, and Legends of Camp Etna", Phineas T. Barnum's "Humbugs of the World", and contemporary newspaper reports.
This is What We Found: https://thisiswhatwefound.libsyn.com/
Ghost Church: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-ghost-church-by-jamie-lof-95721611/
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In 1862, William H. Mumler took the first known photograph of a ghost. Maybe. What unfolded over the next two decades was a story of fraud and self-deception... that even spilled over into the criminal courts of New York City.
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Key sources for this episode include James Appleton Morgan's "The Law of Literature"; Louis Kaplan's "The Strange Case of William Mumler, Spirit Photographer"; Peter Manseau's "The Apparitionists: A Tale of Phantoms, Fraud, Photography, and the Man Who Captured Lincoln's Ghost"; and William H. Mumler's "The Personal Experiences of William H. Mumler in Spirit-Photography."
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This week we're co-promoting with fellow TNC podcast Art Slice featuring irreverent deep dives into art & art history by artists Stephanie Dueñas and Russell Shoemaker. No gatekeeping, privilege, or that cognitive fog called 'art speaking.' https://www.artslicepod.com/
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This week #7 drops by to tell us everything we need to know about pickles... and then throw a "pickle party" for her niece featuring all sorts of unconventional pickles.
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https://order-of-the-jackalope.com/pickle-me-this/
Key sources for this episode include Harold McGeeâs On Food and Cooking, Prosper Montagneâs Larousse Gastronomique, and Sue Shepherdâs Pickled, Potted and Canned.
Presented by #7 (Dorothy White). Voluptuary. Raconteur. Artist wannabe. Travel junkie. Photographer of Pearl. In thrall to Vampire Andy. Teacher of culinary arts.
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In 1876 poet Julia Ann Moore was beloved by the people of Grand Rapids, precisely because her poems were so bad. Eventually she went national... and cruel audiences stopped laughing at her poems, and started laughing at her.
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Key sources for this episode include A.H. Greenly's "The Sweet Singer of Michigan Biographically Considered", Rudolph Umland's "The Blessed Sweet Singer"; Thomas J. Riedlinger's Mortal Refrains; Mark Twain's Crossing the Equator; and, of course, Julia Ann Moore's The Sentimental Song Book, The Sweet Singer of Michigan Salutes the Public, and A Few Choice Words to the Public, With New and Original Poems.
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Special thanks to Dave Blomenberg for coming on to discuss poetry with us! And thanks Dorothy White, Eric Leslie, David L. White, Greg Armstrong, Sam Link, Steven White, Kristen Harkness and Richard Le Poidevin for contributing their vocal talents to this episode!
This week we're co-promoting with fellow TNC podcast The Curiosity of a Child. Join Richard and Anton as they look at the quirky and unusual as well we the mundane from around the world as well as seeking out local history, events and characters. https://thecuriosityofachild.com/
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Josephine Bunkley wanted to raise awareness of problems within the convent system... but her "allies" just wanted to use her story to swing 1855 state elections to a party of reactionary xenophobes.
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Key sources for this episode include Catherine Yacovazzi's Escaped Nuns: True Womanhood and the Campaign Against Convents in Antebellum America; Charles Hale's "Our Houses are our Castles"; Josephine Bunkley's The Escaped Nun; and Tyler Anbinder's Nativism & Slavery: The Northern Know-Nothings & the Politics of the 1850s.
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