Episodes
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This episode features a very special and timely conversation with Los Abandoned who are back for a one-off reunion this Fall 2023!
Los Abandoned were the buque de insignia, the flag-bearer band that encompassed not just rock Angelino, but the multi-ethnic Los Ăngeles of the first decade of the 21st century.
So we had to get Lady P. Don Verder, and Vira Lata "on the studio" to record this especial conversation about the history and present of Los Abandoned and their place in LĂ History!
Plus, Los Abandoned also they share tons of their crazy rock and roll adventures. Check it out!
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What are the evolving meanings of Rock en Español anthems?
In this episode, incoming UC Santa Barbara Ph.D. student Gabriela LĂșa joins us to discuss her own coming of age with Rock en Español albums. Gabriela âwhoâs 22 years young! â shares how the songs by CafĂ© Tacvba and Los Prisioneros have influenced the formation of her Chicane identity, while teaching her about Latin American history.
Also, we will discuss a bit of the historical context of CafĂ© Tacvbaâs âREâ and Los Prisioneros âCorazonesâ as both albums were recorded in Los Angeles!
We will talk about how songs such as âTren al surâ have different meanings once embraved by newer generations. And Yes, we will include several versions of âTren al Surâ by Los Prisioneros and Southern Californiaâs own âThe Linda Lindas.â Gabriela will share her recommendations on current artists with a âRock en Españolâ vibe.
Plus, this episode includes a complete recording of âLas Floresâ performed by the students of the Miramonte Music program in South L.A.
This episode ends our Summer 2023 Season of the Discursive Power of Rock en español and the Desire for Democracyâ o El Rock en Español y el deseo democrĂĄtico. So, whatâs next?
We will get back to creating new episodes once the Fall academic term starts. Perhaps once a month or as our academic duties allow us.
Song Listing:
In this episode, we included CafĂ© Tacubaâs Las Batallas from their first album and MediodĂa from their more recent Segundo Unplugged. Plus, we also heard Calle 13 with Latinoamerica. Gabrielaâs recommendations included in this episode FrioLento with the cover of La Gata Bajo La Lluvia and Vivir Quintana a dueto Mon La Ferte with âCanciĂłn Sin Miedoâ
And yes, we listened to several Tren al Sur versions. We included a live version from Los Prisioneros at Viña del Mar in 1991 at the apex of the career. Ademås, The Linda Lindas version performed at Corona Capital in Mexico City in November 2022.
Original songs played in our episodes are included in our Podcast Playlist. Make sure to check it out as new songs are included weekly during the summer 23.
We are thankful for the support of the University of California, Humanities Research Institute UCHRI for this podcast series. This project is supported in part by the University of California Office of the President MRPI funding M21PR3286.
Most importantly, we want to THANK all the collaborators and YOU for listening, and sending us your comments and feedback. If you got this far, please keep sending us your messages. We would like to hear from you whenever you hear this podcast, either in 2023 or in the future.
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So, what are the legacies of Rock en Español in Southern California?
In this episode, we are joined by Vivian Vega, a recent UCR graduate to discuss how âRock en Españolâ has long been a part of her life during different eras.
Vivian tells us how her tĂas taught her los pasos prohibidos, or rather las canciones prohibidas de Molotov. Plus, Vivian âwho is in her 20sâ shares with us how she finds meaning and inspiration in the songs of bands like PanteĂłn RococĂł and Caifanes.
Vivian will also discuss her experience working on archiving and digitizing the letter collection of LA's Club Rock en Español.
Plus, we will discuss Caifanes/Jaguares long commitment to advocating for greater democracy in Mexico and demanding justice for the victims of femicides in Mexico. Speaking of Caifanes, the episode features a true sonic treat: the complete version of âVientoâ by the students of Miramonte Music program in South L.A.
Song Listing: In this episode we heard a version âVientoâ by Caifanes. The version here is performed by the students of Mira Monte Music Program in South Los Angeles. We also listened to Parasito by Molotov, Indocumentado from El Tri, PanteĂłn Rococoâs own La Carencia. Plus a snippet of Mon La Ferte and Bunbury âMi Buen Amorâ and also from Chile DepresiĂłn Post-Mortem's own post-punk version of Zion and Lennoxâs reggaetĂłn classic âYo Voyâ.
Original songs played in our episodes are included in our Podcast Playlist. Make sure to check it out as new songs are included weekly during the summer 23.
Episode Seven Bibliography. Books and Articles for further reading and research:
âAlcazar, Merarit Viera. "Feminism, youth, and women who rock: Rocking is also a way to fight." Youth, inequality and social change in the Global South (2019): 99-111.
âAlexander, Anna Rose. "One Fire, Two Songs: Ăscar ChĂĄvez and El Tri Sing about San Juanico, 1984." The Latin Americanist 64, no. 4 (2020): 377-392.
âDe la Peza, MarĂa del Carmen. El rock mexicano: un espacio en disputa. Tintable, 2014.
âDe la Peza, MarĂa del Carmen. "El ska en MĂ©xico. PanteĂłn RococĂł y la cultura polĂtica juvenil." Revista Argentina de Estudios de Juventud 4 (2011).
âDe la Peza, Carmen. "PanteĂłn RococĂł: Mexican Ska and Collective Memory." Intercultural Communication Studies 19, no. 3 (2010): 112-23.
âChew, Selfa A. "Representations of Black Womanhood in Mexico." Studies in Latin American Popular Culture 36, no. 1 (2018): 108-127.
âCorona, Ignacio. "The Politics of Language, Class, and Nation in Mexicoâs Rock en espaïŹol." Song and Social Change in Latin America (2013): 91.
âCruz, JosĂ© HernĂĄndez Riwes. "Si no das el trancazo tĂș. Del paradigma anglofĂlico al âmulticulturalâ en el rock hecho en MĂ©xico." Revista Tema y Variaciones de Literatura 59 (2022): 45-60.
âGreen, Andrew James. "Activist musicianship, sound, the âOther Campaignâand the limits of public space in Mexico City." In Ethnomusicology Forum, vol. 25, no. 3, pp. 345-366. Routledge, 2016.
âHernĂĄndez, Deborah Pacini. "Amalgamating musics: Popular music and cultural hybridity in the Americas." In Musical Migrations: Transnationalism and Cultural Hybridity in Latin/o America, Volume I, pp. 13-32. New York: Palgrave Macmillan US, 2003.
âMartĂnez, Laura. "MĂșsica y resistencia cultural: Rock mexicano contemporĂĄneo." Revista Iberoamericana 72, no. 217 (2006): 957-971.
âVelasco, Xavier. Una banda nombrada Caifanes. DragĂłn, 1990.
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In this episode, Professor Leal and Professor Citlali Sosa-Riddell discuss the historical themes examined in the first five episodes. Plus, they answer listeners' questions!
Dr. Sosa-Riddell (CSU San Marcos), who did the Latin American history episodes and is the series's co-creator, discusses her first encounters with Rock en Español as a third-generation Mexican American and how nostalgia can be useful when studying history.
In addition, Dr. Leal (UC Riverside) reveals the first ever Rock en Español songs that he furtively listened to during his long-ago adolescence in Guadalajara, Mexico, and how music pushes against many of society's most conservative norms.
From the listenersâ questions, we try to tackle questions such as âWhat are the Rock en Español legacy in Los Angeles?â and more.
Check it out and keep sending your questions in the comments or DMs to us!
Original songs mentioned in this episode are included in our Podcast Playlist. Make sure to check it out, as new songs are included weekly during the summer 23.
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In this episode,we are again joined by Prof. Citlali Sosa-Riddell (Cal State University, San Marcos) She will be examining essential Rock Nacional (Argentino) songs to consider how "el rock nacional" became a space to confront the painful memories of the military dictatorship even before the dictatorship collapsed.
The songs became important discursive spaces across Latin America because it was a way to engage with the national conscience, to tell stories of the murdered victims, and to deal with crimes of the dirty wars of the state against the population when the courts and nation would not.
Song Listing: In this episode we heard âEl Show de los Muertosâ by Sui Generis, LeĂłn Gieco with âEl Fantasma de Canterville.â Luis Alberto Spinetta with "Maribel se durmiĂł." Alejandro Lernerâs âIndultoâ and Bersuit Vergarabat with their song âVuelos.â
Original songs played in our episodes are included in our Podcast Playlist. Make sure to check it out as new songs are included weekly during the summer 23.
Episode Five Bibliography. Books and Articles for further reading and research:
âAbello Onofre, Carolina. "Scratching the Stones of Rock and Roll: Love Lyrics in the Times of the Argentinian Dictatorship." Rock Music Studies 5, no. 1 (2018): 76-93.
âCitro, Silvia. "Ritual transgression and grotesque realism in 1990s rock music: an ethnographer among the Bersuit." In Youth Identities and Argentine Popular Music: Beyond Tango, pp. 19-39. New York: Palgrave Macmillan US, 2012.
âFavoretto, Mara. "Brothers in rock: Argentine and British rock music during the Malvinas/Falklands War." The Bloomsbury handbook of popular music and social class (2020): 291-313.
âGiusti, Cristian Secul. Rompiendo el silencio: La libertad en las letras de rock-pop argentino (1982-1989). Editorial Biblos, 2021.âHernĂĄn, Dal MolĂn. "Al son del horror. MĂșsica y dictadura en la Argentina." HyA ediciones (2023): 31-46.
âHernandez, Deborah Pacini, HĂ©ctor D. FernĂĄndez l'Hoeste, and Eric Zolov, eds. Rockin'las AmĂ©ricas: the global politics of rock in Latin/o America. University of Pittsburgh Press, 2004.
âLopez, Diego, and Veronica Gomez. "Resistance to Censorship and Cultural Repression During the Military Dictatorship (1976â1983)." The Routledge Companion to Music and Human Rights (2022).
âSemĂĄn, Pablo, and Pablo Vila, eds. Youth identities and Argentine popular music: Beyond tango. Springer, 2012.âVila, Pablo. "Tiempos difĂciles, tiempos creativos: rock y dictadura en Argentina." Music and Dictatorship in Europe and Latin America, Harback, Amsterdam (2010).
âWilson, Timothy, and Mara Favoretto. "Making the âDisappearedâ Visible in Argentine Rock." Lied und populĂ€re Kultur/Song and Popular Culture 60 (2015): 351-364.
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In this episode, la profe Sosa-Riddell interviews Emilia Parodi, a recent Argentinian immigrant to the United States and current Pierce College student. They discuss how the experiences of Emilia growing up with the songs and the history of âel rock nacionalâ (argentino). While Emilia was born 15 years after the end of the dictatorship in Argentina, she is still impacted and inspired by the power of âRock en Español.â
Song Listing:
In this episode we heard Argentina's rock pioneer Los Gatos with their song La Balsa. We also listened to Charly Garciaâs âLos Dinosaurios.â In addition, we heard segments from âEl Reino Del Revesâ by Maria Elena Walsh and a fragment of âPorque no se vanâ by Chileâs Los Prisioneros y nos despedimos con un pedazito de âMil Horasâ performed by the students of the Miramonte music program. The song is originally from Los Abuelos de la Nada and Andres Calamaro.
Original songs played in our episodes are included in our Podcast Playlist. Make sure to check it out as new songs are included weekly during the summer 23.
Episode Four Bibliography. Books and Articles for further reading and research:
âAlabarces, Pablo. Entre gatos y violadores: el rock nacional en la cultura argentina. Vol. 3. Ediciones Colihue SRL, 1993.
âFavoretto, Mara. "Charly GarcĂa's allegories as counter-discourse." Confluencia (2012): 61-74.
âFavoretto, Mara. "Brothers in rock: Argentine and British rock music during the Malvinas/Falklands War." The Bloomsbury handbook of popular music and social class (2020): 291-313.
âInchaurrondo, NicolĂĄs. "Charly GarcĂa: dictadura vs democracia." Primera GeneraciĂłn (2019).
âO'Brien, Michael S. "CĂłmo Vino la Mano: OrĂgenes del Rock Argentino. By Miguel Grinberg. Buenos Aires: Gourmet Musical Ediciones, 2008 (4th revised and expanded edn).
âRobben, Antonius CGM. "How traumatized societies remember: The aftermath of Argentina's dirty war." Cultural Critique (2005): 120-164.
âTrolliet, Ana Sanchez. "âBuenos Aires beatâ: a topography of rock culture in Buenos Aires, 1965â1970." Urban History 41, no. 3 (2014): 517-536.
âTrolliet, Ana Sanchez. "" MAKING LOVE IN THE KITCHEN": WOMEN, DOMESTIC SPACE AND ROCK CULTURE IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES/" Haciendo el amor en la cocina": mujeres, espacio domestico y cultura rock en los tempranos ochenta/" FAZENDO AMOR NA COZINHA": MULHERES, ESPACO DOMESTICO E CULTURA DO ROCK NO INICIO DA DECADA DE OITENTA." Cuadernos de Musica, Artes Visuales y Artes Escenicas 13, no. 1 (2018): 85-103.
âVila, Pablo. "Rock nacional and Dictatorship in Argentina." Popular music 6, no. 2 (1987): 129-148.
âWilson, Timothy, and Mara Favoretto. "Making the âDisappearedâ Visible in Argentine Rock." Lied und populĂ€re Kultur/Song and Popular Culture 60 (2015): 351-364.
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This episode is hosted by Dr. Citlali Sosa-Riddell (Cal State University, San Marcos) and looks at music as a form of dissent in Latin America.Music in the form of nueva canciĂłn, canto nuevo and rock and roll became a creative space for dissent with young people frustrated with the anti-democratic societies they lived in and challenging it through their participation in musical culture.
AsĂ que this episode examines Argentina, Mexico, and Chile from the 1960s to the 1980s to find out exactly why rock music became a space of creativity against the dictatorships.
Song Listing:
In this episode we listened to Enanitos Verdes âEl Extraño de Pelo Largo,â which is a cover originally from La Joven Guardia, "AvĂĄndaro" by Tinta Blanca and "Lamento del indio" by Inti Illimani. These songs is not available on any streaming services. And we also heard Sol y Lluvia with "Organizando."
We also heard a a version of "Eres para mi" originally from Julieta Venegas. This episode's version is episode was performed by the students of Miramonte Music Program, based in the MiraMonte school in South Los Angeles.
Original songs played in our episodes are included in our Podcast Playlist. Make sure to check it out as new songs are included weekly during the summer 23.
Episode Three Bibliography. Books and Articles for further reading and research:
âAbello Onofre, Carolina. "Scratching the Stones of Rock and Roll: Love Lyrics in the Times of the Argentinian Dictatorship." Rock Music Studies 5, no. 1 (2018): 76-93.
âCarreño, RubĂ. Av. Independencia: Literatura, mĂșsica e ideas de Chile disidente. Cuarto propio, 2013.
âEspinosa, Christian Spencer. "Hacia un nuevo cancionero popular: mĂșsica, creaciĂłn y polĂtica en la revuelta social chilena (2019-2020)." BoletĂn MĂșsica 54 (2020): 29.
âFavoretto, Mara, and Timothy Wilson. "El Gran Hermano burlado: la neolengua oficial y la neolengua contracultural durante la Dictadura Militar (1976â1983) en Argentina." Contexto-Revista do Programa de PĂłs-Graduação em Letras da UFES 31 (2017).
âFavoretto, Mara. "The Falklands/Malvinas War (1982) in Argentine Rock Songs." Lied und populĂ€re Kultur/Song and Popular Culture 63 (2018): 53-66.
âManzano, Valeria. "âRock Nacionalâ and Revolutionary Politics: The Making of a Youth Culture of Contestation in Argentina, 1966-1976." The Americas 70, no. 3 (2014): 393-427.
âMcSherry, J. Patrice. "La dictadura y la mĂșsica popular en Chile: Los primeros años de plomo." Resonancias vol. 23, n° 45, julio-noviembre 2019, pp. 147-169.
âNeustadt, Robert. "Music as memory and torture: sounds of repression and protest in Chile and Argentina." Chasqui 33, no. 1 (2004): 128-137.
âPensado, Jaime M. "âTo Assault with the Truthâ: The Revitalization of Conservative Militancy in Mexico During the Global Sixties." The Americas 70, no. 3 (2014): 489-521.
âPrado, Ignacio M. SĂĄnchez. "The Idea of Democratic Transition." Modern Mexican Culture:Critical Foundations (2017): 166.
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In this episode, we will discuss the arrival of Rock en Español to Los Ăngeles. How the genre encouraged Latin American immigrants and U.S. Latinas/os to hang out with each other and create a vibrant Rock Angelino scene to claim themselves as part of Southern California at an tense moment of demographic change, economic restructuring, racial tensions and anti-immigrant politics...which was the 1990s, but as you might realize, it can also have parallels to the present.
Song Listing:
In this episode we heard a cover of âFronteras,â a song originally by Gaby Moreno. The episode version was performed by the students of Mira Monte Music Program, based in the MiraMonte school in South Los Angeles.
We also listened to Rock Angelino trailblazer, Eclipse with âQue triste vive mi gente en Estados Unidos.â Los Olvidados with "Silvestre" and "Viernes." Las 15 Letras' âAunque no quierasâ and "Bi" by Pastilla.
Make sure to check our the Podcast Playlist as new songs are included weekly during the summer 23.
Episode Two Bibliography. Books and Articles for further reading and research:
âAvant-Mier, Roberto. Rock the Nation: Latin/o Identities and the Latin Rock Diaspora. Bloomsbury Publishing USA, 2010.
âHarvey, David. A Brief History of Neoliberalism. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2005.
âHoSang, Daniel Martinez. Racial propositions: Ballot initiatives and the making of postwar California. Vol. 30. Univ of California Press, 2010.
âJimĂ©nez, TomĂĄs Roberto. Replenished ethnicity: Mexican Americans, immigration, and identity. Univ of California Press, 2010.
âLeal, Jorge N. "Mapping ephemeral music forums in Latina/o Los Angeles." California History 97, no. 2 (2020): 124-127.
âLeal, Jorge N. "Mapping the city from below: Approaches in charting out Latinx historical and quotidian presence in metropolitan Los Angeles: 1990â2020." European Journal of American Culture 40, no. 1 (2021): 5-26.
âLeal, Jorge Nicolas. "Seremos capaces de pensar por nuestra cuenta (Weâre capable of thinking on our own): 1990s Immigrant Los Angeles and Latin American Intellectual and Publishing Traditions.." Printing History. Combined Issue, 2022. New Series Number 31-32, Fall 2022. 70-89.
âLechner, Ernesto. Rock en Español: the Latin alternative rock explosion. Chicago Review Press, 2006.
âVerbuÄ, David. DIY House Shows and Music Venues in the US: Ethnographic Explorations of Place and Community. Routledge, 2021.
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Episode One Sypnosis:
As a music genre, Latin American rock and roll had long been associated as part of the so-called counterculture and oppositional politics in different Latin American countries.So, letâs start at the beginningâŠwell there are many beginnings. AsĂ que, in this first episode we go over some key info on the history of Latin America in the 1980s, particularly, Argentina, Chile, and MĂ©xico and its interserctions with el rock.
Song Listing:
In this episode we hear a version of Soda Stereo's MĂșsica Ligera performed by the students of Mira Monte Music Program, based in the MiraMonte school in South Los Angeles.
We also heard We are South American Rockers by Los Prisioneros, Maldita Vecindad with Apañon and Mojado.
Original songs played our episodes are included the Podcast Playlist. Make sure to check it out as new songs are included weekly during the summer 23.
Episode One Bibliography. Books and Articles for further reading and research:
âJudith Adler Hellman. Mexico in Crisis. (New York: Holmes & Meier. 1999).
Emiliano Aguayo. Las voces de los' 80: conversaciones con los protagonistas del fenĂłmeno POP-Rock. RIL editores, 2012.
âHector Calderon. "The Mexico CityâLos Angeles Cultural Mosh Pits: Maldita Vecindad, a Chilanga-Chicana Rock Banda de Pueblo." AztlĂĄn: A Journal of Chicano Studies 31, no. 1 (2006): 95-137.
âGuillermo Cuccioletta, and MartĂn Cuccioletta. Soda Stereo, 1982-1997: La Historia. (Buenos Aires: Galerna, 1997).
âMara Favoretto. "The Falklands/Malvinas War (1982) in Argentine Rock Songs." Lied und populĂ€re Kultur/Song and Popular Culture 63 (2018): 53-66.
âFederico Finchelstein. The ideological origins of the dirty war: Fascism, populism, and dictatorship in twentieth century Argentina. (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2017).
âJohn Fiske. âThe cultural economy of fandom.â In Lisa A. Lewis (Ed.), The adoring audience: Fan culture and popular media. (London: Routledge. 1992). 30-49.
âJoseph, Gilbert M., Anne Rubenstein, and Eric Zolov, eds. Fragments of a golden age: The politics of culture in Mexico since 1940. Duke University Press, 2001.
âDavid Harvey. A brief history of neoliberalism. Oxford University Press, USA, 2007.
âMatthew B. Karush. Musicians in transit: Argentina and the globalization of popular music. Duke University Press, 2016.
âRubĂ©n MartĂnez. "CorazĂłn del Rocanrol." Border/Lines 27 (1993).
âMarcos Novaro and Vicente Palermo. La dictadura militar, 1976-1983: del golpe de estado a la restauraciĂłn democrĂĄtica. (Buenos Aires: PaidĂłs, 2003).
âIgnacio M. SĂĄnchez Prado. "The Idea of Democratic Transition." Modern Mexican Culture: Critical Foundations (2017): 166.
âPablo Vila, , ed. Music and youth culture in Latin America: identity construction processes from New York to Buenos Aires. Oxford University Press, 2014.
Patricia Vilches. "De Violeta Parra a VĂctor Jara y Los Prisioneros: RecuperaciĂłn de la memoria colectiva e identidad cultural a travĂ©s de la mĂșsica comprometida." Latin American Music Review (2004): 195-215.
âDiana Taylor. Disappearing acts: spectacles of gender and nationalism in Argentina's âDirty War.â (Durham, N.C.: Duke University Press, 1997).
âPaula Thorrington Cronovich. "Out of the Blackout and into the Light: How the Arts Survived Pinochet's Dictatorship." Iberoamericana, XIII, (2013): 119-137.
âLouise Walker. Waking from the Dream: Mexico's Middle Classes After 1968. (Stanford, CA: Stanford University Press, 2013).
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In this podcast series we will discuss a bit, no ok a lot of the history of Latin America and Los Angeles and how rock en español plays a big part in this history.At times the lyrics are the recording of this history and other times, the lyrics and the bands become part of some of the big social movements in places like Chile, Argentina, Mexico and by the 1990s Los Angeles too.In exploring these historical moments, crises, and upheavals as well as the struggles of the youth of Latin America and the U.S. we can see what freedom, democracy, and human rights mean to people how they are represented in songs and at the concert stages.You will hear from professors who have studied this music and fans who first heard this music in the 1990s. But as you can imagine we are a bit, well older. So, we will also hear from young people who will examine the legacies of this music in our present moment.So, join on our podcast on The power of Rock en Español and the Desire for Democracy. Episode available on Wednesday June 21, 2023 in all available podcasting platforms.
