Episodes

  • Is gaslighting a toddler ever okay?

    We are divided on this episode of Parents Anonymous - which might just be our most outrageous yet.

    From failed homework to divorce celebration we are dishing out our judgement-free judgement on your biggest parenting confessions and sharing ours as well.

    Please share your shameful secrets by leaving us a voice note, email us at [email protected] or for super shame super anonymous you can pop them in this form.

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    If you’re looking for something else to listen to why not check out our award winning parenting podcast How To Build A Human.

    Or click here to listen to the hosts of Mamamia Out Loud open up about creativity and how they stay inspired.

    Tell us what you really think so we can give you more of what you really want. Fill out this survey and you’ll go in the running to win one of five $100 gift vouchers.

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    CREDITS:

    Host: Annaliese Todd & Stacey Hicks

    Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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  • Do you remember being pregnant with your first child? Your head filled with what you expected, only to be blindsided by the things no one warned you about.

    With over 15 years of parenting experience between them, Annaliese Todd and Tegan Natoli are here to offer honest advice to all the expecting parents at the Mamamia office. And they take their role as “mummy myth busters” very seriously!

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    If you’re looking for something else to listen to why not check out our award winning parenting podcast How To Build A Human.

    Or click here to listen to the hosts of Mamamia Out Loud open up about creativity and how they stay inspired.

    Got a message for Sarah Marie? We’re listening! Send us a voice message, email us at [email protected]

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    CREDITS:

    Host: Tegan Natoli, Annaliese Todd & Sarah Marie Fahd

    Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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  • While conversations around mental health have become more common, are they really reaching those who need help?

    Today’s episode of Little Love Stories reminds us of the importance of checking in on mental health through initiatives like R U OK day?

    Our guest today, Mamamia social media producer Sharn Jaye, shares her personal story of being asked the life-saving question, and bravely answering, 'No'.

    If you need support you can call Lifeline 24 hours a day on 13 11 14. Or talk to a counsellor at Beyond Blue.

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    Listen to The Quicky, What To Do When Someone's Not OK

    Listen to But Are You Happy, What Missy Higgins Knows About Shame

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    CREDITS:

    Host & Producer: Grace Rouvray and Claire Murphy

    Guest: Sharn Jaye

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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  • Parenting definitely comes with its fair share of complaints. If it were a business, we’d all be asking to speak to the manager - long hours, little appreciation, and a never-ending workload. But, every now and then, something magical happens in those moments that makes it the best job in the world.

    In this episode, Annaliese and Tegan dive into their parenting regrets and reasons. Of course, it wouldn’t be This Glorious Mess without a perfect mix of light and shade.

    Plus, Sarah Marie has a unique take on a tricky work dilemma and we hear how one mum is completely reimagining dinner time to better suit her child’s needs.

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    If you’re looking for something else to listen to why not check out our award winning parenting podcast How To Build A Human.

    Or click here to listen to the hosts of Mamamia Out Loud open up about creativity and how they stay inspired.

    Got a message for Sarah Marie? We’re listening! Send us a voice message, email us at [email protected]

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    CREDITS:

    Host: Tegan Natoli, Annaliese Todd & Sarah Marie Fahd

    Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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  • One father has shared his deepest shame, a 27 year old son who is still in the family home. Annaliese and Stacey brainstorm how to get him out. Plus a parent in need of their own sick day and YouTube teaches a 2 year old how to swear. Oops!

    Please share your shameful secrets by leaving us a voice note, email us at [email protected] or for super shame super anonymous you can pop them in this form.

    Parents Anonymous is part Church Confessional, part Game Show. Where you, our listeners, share your deepest darkest parenting confessions and we'll score them using our completely made up scoring system!

    THE END BITS

    If you’re looking for something else to listen to why not check out our award winning parenting podcast How To Build A Human.

    Or click here to listen to the hosts of Mamamia Out Loud open up about creativity and how they stay inspired.

    Tell us what you really think so we can give you more of what you really want. Fill out this survey and you’ll go in the running to win one of five $100 gift vouchers.

    Subscribe to Mamamia

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    CREDITS:

    Host: Annaliese Todd & Stacey Hicks

    Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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  • Are you concerned about the rapid advancements in AI, how it could affect your kids, or perhaps you find it hard to worry because you don’t fully understand it?

    This week, Annaliese and Tegan sit down with Dr. Matt Agnew, author of Is My Phone Reading My Mind?, a book designed to help kids grasp the concept of AI and guide parents in talking about it.

    Although the book is aimed at children, Annaliese and Tegan learnt A LOT.

    You can buy Dr Matt Agnew's book, Is My Phone Reading My Mind here

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    If you’re looking for something else to listen to why not check out our award winning parenting podcast How To Build A Human.

    Or click here to listen to the hosts of Mamamia Out Loud open up about creativity and how they stay inspired.

    Got a message for Sarah Marie? We’re listening! Send us a voice message, email us at [email protected]

    We’ve compiled all the best resources for new mums in a free newsletter. Join the mailing list.

    CREDITS:

    Host: Tegan Natoli, Annaliese Todd & Sarah Marie Fahd

    With thanks to Dr Matt Agnew

    Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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  • In this episode of Little Love Stories, we delve into an important love letter to identity, culture, and belonging. Natasha Lucas has found her place in world through deep connection with her Aboriginal heritage.

    In a country where only 3.8% of the population identifies as Aboriginal, Natasha’s journey is one of discovering pride, strength, and sisterhood within her culture. Her story is a testament to the power of self-love and embracing one’s roots and reminding us that true love lies in the essence of who you are.

    You can read Natasha's full little love story here

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    CREDITS:

    Host & Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Guest: Natasha Lucas

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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  • Ahh the School Drop Off. Every day, without fail, the parents converge upon the school gate, a ritual as old as time itself. Here, in this bustling microcosm, we observe a diverse array of species - each one unique, yet all playing a vital role in the ecosystem of school life.

    This episode Tegan Natoli and Annaliese Todd have meticulously categorised the seven distinct types of school parents that roam the school grounds. Which ones will they identify themselves as? And why, you may ask, do we need all seven to maintain the delicate balance of this daily dance? Stay with us, as we uncover the answers.

    What type of school parent are you? Take the Quiz HERE

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    CREDITS:

    Host: Tegan Natoli, Annaliese Todd & Sarah Marie Fahd

    Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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  • On this weeks episode of Parents Anonymous, a gushy Facebook post has a parent questioning their entire existence. Bribery is ALWAYS in the parenting toolkit. Plus a PA theme has started to emerge with parents ringing the emergency services, possibly wasting their time. Much to unpack.

    Please share your shameful secrets by leaving us a voice note, email us at [email protected] or for super shame super anonymous you can pop them in this form.

    Parents Anonymous is part Church Confessional, part Game Show. Where you, our listeners, share your deepest darkest parenting confessions and we'll score them using our completely made up scoring system!

    THE END BITS

    Tell us what you really think so we can give you more of what you really want. Fill out this survey and you’ll go in the running to win one of five $100 gift vouchers.

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    CREDITS:

    Host: Annaliese Todd & Stacey Hicks

    Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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  • A few months ago, we welcomed Sarah Marie Fahd into our This Glorious Mess family, where she's been tackling your dilemmas and listening to your rants. Now, it's time to dive deeper into her world - her family, her Filipino heritage, her parenting style, and how she navigates the spotlight alongside her husband.

    We reached out to you for all the burning questions, and we covered as many as we could. And yes, we asked the big one: is she returning to Gogglebox? You'll hear her answer!

    Plus, we’ll share a story from a mum who turned a lockdown ritual into a weekly dinner tradition.

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    CREDITS:

    Host: Tegan Natoli, Annaliese Todd & Sarah Marie Fahd

    Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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  • Have you ever felt deep gratitude toward an object? Today’s guest, Nicolle Stuart, discovered the Thermomix during her first pregnancy.

    Initially, it made her feel like one of those aspirational mum-fluencers she followed on Instagram. But when breastfeeding struggles brought overwhelming guilt, the Thermomix became more than just an appliance—it helped ease the mental load and alleviate that all-too-common mother guilt.

    Today’s story shows that love and appreciation can be found in the most unexpected places - we just need to be open to seeing them.

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    CREDITS:

    Host & Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Guest: Nicolle Stuart

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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    Were you smacked as a child? You’re not alone - most Millennials and Gen X were. In fact, corporal punishment in schools wasn't banned until the mid-nineties!

    This week, Tegan and Annaliese dive into how they were disciplined as kids and how those experiences have influenced their parenting styles. With gentle parenting all the rage (pun intended), has the over correction from tough love gone too far?

    Plus we hear from Sarah Marie Fahd and her very honest approach to “woo woo” parenting.

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    Host: Tegan Natoli, Annaliese Todd & Sarah Marie Fahd

    Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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  • In this weeks Parents Anonymous we got quite a shock when a super embarrassing toilet dilemma was revealed to be the secret shame of our very own Stacey Hicks! However, we're quite impressed at her ingenuity. Brace for shock and wow

    Please share your shameful secrets by leaving us a voice note, email us at [email protected] or for super shame super anonymous you can pop them in this form.

    Parents Anonymous is part Church Confessional, part Game Show. Where you, our listeners, share your deepest darkest parenting confessions and we'll score them using our completely made up scoring system!

    THE END BITS

    Tell us what you really think so we can give you more of what you really want. Fill out this survey and you’ll go in the running to win one of five $100 gift vouchers.

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    CREDITS:

    Host: Annaliese Todd & Stacey Hicks

    Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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  • On today’s show, we’re talking about something that is very relatable, frowned upon, controversial, and celebrated. It’s complex: Mummy Wine Culture. Both Annaliese and Tegan get very real and honest about their own relationship with alcohol since becoming parents.

    As always, Sarah Marie is here to help with another dilemma. Plus, we’ve got a toolkit idea if you’re looking to cut down on drinking.

    Listen to Holly Wainwright's MID conversation with Shanna Whan from Sober In The Country HERE.

    If this episode raised anything for you, here are some incredible resources:
    Sober In The Country
    Hello Sunday Morning
    Alcoholics Anonymous
    Life Line
    Drink Wise

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    CREDITS:

    Host: Tegan Natoli, Annaliese Todd & Sarah Marie Fahd

    Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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  • What comes to mind when you hear 'strong'? Maybe muscles or physical strength? But, what about mental strength and resilience?

    You may know Olympian Libby Trickett as Libby Lenton. She became a house hold name in the early 2000s swimming for Australia.

    Libby wasn’t prepared for a different type of strength she would need once she’d retire from swimming. Like many new parents, Libby's world was turned upside down by the arrival of her first baby, Poppy.

    You can read Libby's full little love story here.

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    CREDITS:

    Host & Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Guest: Libby Trickett

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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  • If you grew up with a sibling, you're probably no stranger to a bit of healthy competition.

    This week, Annaliese and Tegan dive into what happens when a natural competitive streak turns into constant comparison, and those feelings of 'failure' start to creep in. Spoiler alert: Annaliese has a special "School of No F*cks" program to help you out.

    Plus, we'll hear from Sarah Marie has a controversial take on how to manage sibling rivalry from a parent's perspective.

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    Listen to But Are You Happy with Laura Byrne HERE.

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    CREDITS:

    Host: Tegan Natoli, Annaliese Todd & Sarah Marie Fahd

    Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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  • In this weeks Parents Anonymous we hear from a parent who has gone to some creative lengths to avoid the playground and a Mum feeling some shame after a screaming match with her 3 year old ended in the wrong kind of mic drop moment.

    Parents Anonymous is part Church Confessional, part Game Show. Where you, our listeners, share your deepest darkest parenting confessions and we'll score them using our completely made up scoring system!

    Please share your shameful secrets by leaving us a voice note, email us at [email protected] or for super shame super anonymous you can pop them in this form.

    THE END BITS

    Tell us what you really think so we can give you more of what you really want. Fill out this survey and you’ll go in the running to win one of five $100 gift vouchers.

    Subscribe to Mamamia

    We’ve compiled all the best resources for new mums in a free newsletter. Join the mailing list.

    CREDITS:

    Host: Annaliese Todd & Stacey Hicks

    Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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  • Are you the default parent? Chances are the answer is yes - the one your kids ask for everything, or the one carrying the administrative mental load.

    Tegan and Annaliese have conducted investigative research and discovered that being the default parent could actually have some adverse side effects on your relationship and your mental health and it's time we talk about it.

    Plus, Sarah Marie is back to addresses a very relatable problem about splitting the load on the return to work but warning - this one comes with very little empathy.

    And, we hear from a parent of a special needs child about how she is making dinner inclusive for the whole family on this week's Dinner Time.

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    CREDITS:

    Host: Tegan Natoli, Annaliese Todd & Sarah Marie Fahd

    Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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  • Kris O’Neill has a love letter to two girls who she misses terribly, her breasts.

    After being diagnosed with breast cancer almost two years ago, Kris made the choice to go flat. A complex journey wrapped up in fear, celebration and survival.

    Kris is now on a mission to change the perceptions of mastectomy. Talking to anyone who has gone flat or foob, or supporting someone who has, to help find the joy in the Breast Case Scenario.

    Read Kris's full Little Love Story Here

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    CREDITS:

    Host & Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Guest: Kristie O'Neill from Breast Case Scenario Podcast

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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  • With the news often highlighting the darker side of what men are capable of, raising a boy in 2024 can feel daunting and lets be honest a little bit anxiety-inducing.

    Annaliese and Tegan, both moms to boys, are inspired by these challenges to teach their sons how to be good partners, sons, and friends.

    Plus, Sarah Marie tackles a rather cringy problem: why do we insist on asking if a 4-year-old has a boyfriend or girlfriend? They're just four!

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    CREDITS:

    Host: Tegan Natoli, Annaliese Todd & Sarah Marie Fahd

    Producer: Grace Rouvray

    Audio Producer: Lu Hill

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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