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  • In this episode, I speak with Junell Abdi, the Founder and CTO of GEIA.AI. We first met at the Indoor Agtech Summit in Chicago, and I was immediately impressed by his innovative approach to indoor farming. Junell shares his journey from being a city boy in Israel to moving to Hungary and starting GEIA.AI. He talks about the challenges and triumphs of pitching his startup on a big stage and the importance of small startups in the Agtech space. His passion for automating and improving farming efficiency is truly inspiring, and his story is a testament to the power of curiosity and self-learning.

    Junell dives into the technology behind GEIA.AI, explaining how his system uses sensors and automation to help farmers, both big and small, optimize their growing environments. He shares fascinating anecdotes about his early experiments with aquaponics and the development of his IoT-based solutions. Whether you're a tech enthusiast or someone interested in sustainable farming, Junell's insights into the future of vertical farming and the role of AI in agriculture will captivate you.

    Join us for a conversation that blends technology, innovation, and a genuine love for making farming more efficient and accessible.

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    Key Takeaways

    5:21 Leonardo da Vinci's Influence on Junell

    8:17 Junell's Childhood Memories of Fresh Produce

    10:35 Junell's Journey into Vertical Farming

    15:53 GEIA’s Evolution and Target Market

    18:46 GEIA’s Technology and Automation Solutions

    22:21 Advanced Sensor Integration

    24:08 IoT Ecosystem in Growing Environments

    27:04 Data Overwhelm in IoT

    31:51 GEIA Hub Knowledge Sharing Community

    33:57 Integrating Robotics with GEIA

    41:07 Philosophical Approach to Plant Lighting Automation

    Tweetable Quotes"I always had to autodidact, always learning by myself. When I did that server, that was the first journey of me on the Internet. I decided to make my own servers and became a data host ever since.""We lived in Haifa, just 50 meters from the market, so fresh veggies and fruits were always near us. My father, an artist, had a small garden in the city where I planted tomatoes and cucumbers. Those early experiences shaped my love for being close to the source of food.""The toughest thing as a startup is the chicken and egg issue. We invest a lot of time and resources, but to build up further, especially in marketing, we need more investment. Finding investors is not easy these days."Resources Mentioned

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  • In this episode, I speak with Scott Massey, the CEO and co-founder of Anu, who returns to share his journey and the exciting developments since our last conversation. Scott dives into the evolution of Anu, formerly known as GrowPod, and how their mission to empower individuals and communities to produce pure, self-sufficient produce has sharpened over time. We discuss the challenges and rewards of attending industry events, the importance of making strategic decisions, and the impact of their innovative technology on both residential and commercial vertical farming.

    Scott also opens up about the rebranding process, the significance of their partnerships, and the future of modular, rapidly deployable growing systems. His insights into the food-as-medicine movement and the role of technology in enhancing food security are particularly compelling. Whether you're a startup founder, a tech enthusiast, or someone interested in sustainable agriculture, this episode offers valuable perspectives and practical advice.

    Join us for a candid and inspiring conversation that highlights the intersection of technology, health, and sustainability.

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    Key Takeaways

    5:42 Consumer Experience Focus

    8:45 Core Theme

    10:44 Business Ideas

    14:26 Business Ideas

    18:14 Core Investment Thesis at Land Betterment

    22:18 Vision for Future Partnerships and Collaborations

    28:36 Integration of Nature in Dwellings

    30:08 Appliance Placement

    32:10 User Verticals

    36:02 Leadership Inspiration

    39:00 Indoor Agtech Events

    43:41 Indoor Agriculture Innovation

    Tweetable Quotes"Anu is a health and wellness brand that seeks to empower individuals and communities to become self-sufficient in the production of pure produce.""We are not just a box that grows food and does so profitably and efficiently. We are a machine that makes health accessible through food that is produced.""The best technology is the one that the operator does not even know exists; it's so seamless into the user experience that it becomes non-obvious."Resources Mentioned

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  • Welcome, listeners! Join me in this bonus episode as I share some exciting updates and a sneak peek into what's coming up for Season 11 of the Vertical Farming Podcast.

    As we wrap up Season 10, I want to take a moment to recap some of the incredible conversations we've had with industry leaders like Felipe Hernandez of Hexagrow, Victor Kolkatar of Velis Farming, and many more. Each guest brought unique insights into the world of vertical farming, from urban aeroponics to the innovative use of microgreens. If you missed any episodes, this is your chance to catch up on the highlights and get inspired by the amazing work happening in our field.

    This is also a chance for me to express my gratitude for your support through the seasons thus far. Your support means the world to me, and I’m eager to hear your thoughts on the show.

    Over the next few weeks, I’ll be setting up interviews with listeners to get your feedback and learn more about what you enjoy and what we can improve. If you’re interested in chatting, shoot me an email at [email protected] with the subject line "Let's Chat."

    Stay tuned for more great conversations and thank you for being part of this journey!

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    01:00 Recap of Season Ten Guests

    08:52 Roster of Confirmed Guests for Season Eleven

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  • In this episode, I speak with Chris Corkery, the founder and CEO of Hundred Acre, who shares his journey from being a chef in New York City to starting a vertical farm in Milwaukee. Chris talks about the early mornings at farmers' markets, the respect he developed for fresh produce, and the realization that led him to bring farming into urban areas. His passion for food and community shines through as he discusses the challenges and rewards of creating a year-round urban farm that not only provides fresh produce but also creates jobs and educational opportunities.

    Chris also opens up about the personal experiences that shaped his love for food, from cooking with his mom as a child to working in high-end restaurants. He reflects on the importance of community in his work and how his farm aims to serve and connect with the local area. Chris's candid insights into the realities of running a vertical farm, the obstacles he faced, and the innovative solutions he implemented make this conversation both inspiring and informative.

    Join us as we explore the intersection of food, community, and sustainability with someone who's truly passionate about making a difference.

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    Key Takeaways

    5:52 Chris Corkery's Culinary Journey

    12:01 Running a Farm

    15:02 The Restaurant Experience

    18:24 Community Building Through Farming

    23:59 Communicating Value in Indoor Farming

    Tweetable Quotes"The first thing that occurred out of that was really the understanding and respect for the products themselves, because you were trying to get the best, and in order to do that, you had to learn what was the best, and you had to try to get it before someone else did.""Food inherently brings us together. We all got to eat, and we tend to like to do it together. For thousands of years, I don't think that's going to change anytime soon.""Just because you open a giant lab-type facility that has a controlled environment doesn't mean that it all just works at the push of a button. It's still plants and people. So remember, it takes people to feed people, and there's no perfect science to working with people."Resources Mentioned

    Website - https://hundred-acre.org/

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  • In this episode, I speak with Stefan Hey, Co-Founder and Chief Science Officer at vGreens. We reminisce about our initial meeting at Vertifarm in Dortmund and the fascinating dinner conversations that led to a deeper connection. Stefan shares his journey from a childhood dream of becoming a gardener to his current role, where he combines his passion for plants with cutting-edge technology to revolutionize indoor farming. We delve into the specifics of vGreens’ focus on strawberries, exploring the challenges and innovations involved in growing this delicate fruit efficiently and sustainably.

    Stefan's insights into the intricacies of strawberry cultivation are truly enlightening. He explains how vGreens is not just about growing strawberries but about creating a scalable model that can be applied to other fruits in the future. We also discuss the importance of R&D, the role of their farm management software, and the exciting prospects of expanding into the Asian market with a new facility in Singapore.

    Stefan's dedication to sustainable food production and his collaborative approach with partners and engineering companies make this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of agriculture.

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    Key Takeaways

    7:38 Entrepreneurship Journey

    10:51 Core Theme

    16:33 Onboarding Process with New Partners

    21:55 Future Outlook

    27:19 Support for Indoor Farming

    31:42 Diversity in Strawberry Varieties

    33:58 Expansion to Singapore for Year-Round Production

    38:09 Reintroduction of Fresh Produce

    42:14 Indoor Farming and Future Berries

    Tweetable Quotes"I started to study agricultural biology at university, where it became more and more clear about how huge challenges that are facing agriculture, and specifically the sustainability aspect of how we grow food.""One thing to realize is that the science matters and the plant is in the center of everything we do. That is probably one of the important messages that I would say is putting the plant in the center.""The important thing about a system like DAP running smoothly is that man and machine becomes a unit and sort of works together, and software builds that bridge so that the machine is working together with the human to grow these crops and helps the human to make those growing decisions, to have a productive crop over time."Resources Mentioned

    Website - https://v-greens.com

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/stefan-hey-ba9099130/

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  • In this episode, I speak with Kendra Armstrong, the Co-Founder and CEO of Crop Convergence. Kendra shares her journey from growing up on a family farm in Indiana to becoming a startup founder in the agtech industry. We dive into her early experiences on the farm, her decision to pursue plant breeding, and how she eventually found her passion in creating decision-making tools for farmers.Kendra's story is filled with relatable moments, like shoveling hog manure as her first job and the humorous family joke about getting a "real job." Her insights into the challenges and rewards of farming, both traditional and vertical, are truly enlightening.

    Kendra also opens up about the realities of running a startup, from bootstrapping and calling in favors to the importance of honest communication with farmers. She emphasizes the need for tech solutions that genuinely benefit growers, rather than just being another shiny tool. Our conversation touches on the importance of listening to farmers' needs, the value of building resilient and efficient tech, and the collaborative spirit within the agtech community.

    If you're interested in the intersection of technology and agriculture, or just love a good entrepreneurial story, this episode is a must-listen.

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    Key Takeaways

    4:25 Work Ethic in Farming

    5:57 Transition to Computational Tools in Plant Breeding

    9:30 Starting Crop Convergence

    10:50 Kendra Armstrong's Transition to Entrepreneurship

    13:55 Core Focus of Crop Convergence

    15:20 Vertical Farming Requirements

    20:22 Indoor Farming Journey

    29:41 CEO Transition

    32:00 Making Tech Tools Useful for Farmers

    38:41 Goals for Crop Convergence

    Tweetable Quotes"My first job was shoveling hog manure out of a hog barn. It does provide a different standpoint. I think my personal feeling around value and the value I bring to society is so much associated with the farm.""I think that sometimes I think back, and I'm like, what was I thinking at the time? I was in the truck with my dad when I was 16 years old. He asked, 'Kendra, do you want to farm?' I said, 'No, I don't want to farm. It's too stressful.' And now, here I am, a startup founder.""We build decision-making tools for growers and farmers, enabling them to better understand the overall scope of their decisions and how those decisions interact with each other. Our goal is to provide as much information as we can in a simple, quantified, and straightforward manner."Resources Mentioned

    Website - https://www.cropconvergence.com/

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kendra-armstrong-a9109322/

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  • In this episode, I speak with Max Knight and Eric Roth, the Co-founders of Rooted Robotics. We dive into their journey from meeting at a large-scale vertical farm to starting their own company focused on affordable automation solutions for small and medium-sized farms. Max shares how his passion for robotics and engineering led to the creation of Rooted Robotics, while Eric discusses his extensive experience in the Agtech space and how it has shaped their approach to solving labor challenges in vertical farming.

    We also explore the evolution of their business model, the importance of understanding unit economics, and the innovative products they are developing to help farmers increase efficiency and profitability. Max and Eric's insights into the industry, combined with their genuine desire to support and collaborate with other farmers, make this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of vertical farming and agricultural technology.

    Join us for an engaging conversation that highlights the practical solutions and real-world experiences driving success in the Agtech industry.

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    Key Takeaways

    5:46 Lessons from Kalera

    15:30 Microgreens Seeder Innovation

    19:43 Supporting Small and Medium-Sized Farms

    24:46 Challenges Faced by Small Farm Owners

    31:02 Maximilian and Eric's Comprehensive Farming Business Insights

    35:05 AI and Robotics in Agriculture

    38:27 Computer Vision in Vertical Farming

    47:01 Balancing Custom Projects and Core Products

    51:22 Advice for New Growers in the Industry

    Tweetable Quotes"We saw that labor is one of the biggest operating expenses of these facilities. There needs to be a middle ground where you do a lot of automation, but more affordably.""The biggest lesson learned, especially when scaling, is understanding you might not have to automate your entire system on day one, but you need to plan for it.""We need more collaboration and openness in the industry. A rising tide lifts all ships, and we need to create more positive stories about successful businesses."Resources Mentioned

    Website - https://www.rootedrobotics.com/

    Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@RootedRobotics

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/rootedrobotics/

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    Eric’s LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericdroth/

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  • In this episode, I speak with Jesper Hansen, the Chief Commercial Officer at YesHealth. Jesper shares his unique journey from studying history in Denmark to becoming a key player in the vertical farming industry in Taiwan. We discuss his transition into agriculture, driven by a desire to explore the world and a chance encounter with his now-wife's family business. Jesper's story is a testament to the unexpected paths life can take and the opportunities that arise from them.

    Jesper also delves into the challenges and successes of YesHealth, a company that has become a leader in vertical farming in Asia. He explains the importance of building large-scale farms and the company's strategy of partnering with local entrepreneurs to ensure the success of these projects. Jesper's insights into the cultural differences and the evolving landscape of vertical farming in Asia provide a fascinating look at how this innovative industry is developing globally.

     Join us for an engaging conversation that highlights the potential of vertical farming to transform the way we think about food production.

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    Key Takeaways

    00:03:53: The Value of Studying History in Business

    00:05:13: Cultural Differences Between Denmark and China

    00:19:31: Importance of Collaborative Partnerships

    00:21:29: Differences in Vertical Farming Perspectives Between Asia and the West

    00:27:28: Disrupting Traditional Views on Produce Pricing

    00:31:32: Increasing Awareness of YesHealth in the West

    00:37:30: Timeline for Setting Up a Vertical Farm

    00:39:52: Growing Awareness and Conferences in Asia

    00:41:57: Challenges in Aligning Partners and Teams

    00:44:26: Family Involvement in YesHealth

    Tweetable Quotes"In Denmark, because I'm from a rural area, we are very individualized, so we have a lot of private space. In China, it's the opposite. It's all about the collective. You don't look at the needs of the person first; you look at the needs of the group.""I think the industry in Asia is coming back, but it's at a slightly slower pace. The initial excitement there was before is not there, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing because one of the things that went wrong in the first iteration in the West was that it was too much excitement, maybe too much money and push towards unrealistic goals in the short term." "I feel like I could send the design drawing of our farm to anyone in the industry. First of all, they have their own design, so they wouldn't just adopt ours. Even if they did, they wouldn't know how to run the farm because there's so much more to it."Resources Mentioned

    Website - https://www.yeshealthgroup.com

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/yeshealth-group/

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  • In this episode, I speak with Edwin McClure, CEO of Bio520, who shares his journey from finance to the world of indoor agriculture. Edwin's story is one of passion and perseverance, moving from Miami to San Diego, and eventually diving into the agtech space. We discuss his background in finance and how it shaped his approach to business, emphasizing the importance of efficiency and profitability. Edward's love for entrepreneurship shines through as he talks about his early ventures and the lessons learned along the way, making this conversation both insightful and relatable for anyone interested in business and innovation.

    Edwin also delves into the specifics of Bio520, a product developed in Japan that has shown promising results in the indoor ag industry, particularly in cannabis cultivation. He explains the meticulous process of finding the right product and the importance of having a solid team to bring it to market. We touch on the challenges and rewards of starting a new company, the significance of collaboration in the agtech space, and the exciting potential of new technologies like AI and robotics.

    Join us as we discuss the intersection of finance, entrepreneurship, and agriculture, and it offers valuable insights into the future of indoor farming.

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    Key Takeaways

    00:06:16: Early Interest in Business and Finance

    00:10:17: Importance of Financial Discipline in Business

    00:12:32: Discovery and Development of Bio520

    00:18:44: Incremental Improvements in Agriculture

    00:23:21: Experience at Indoor Ag-Con

    00:26:27: Ideal Clients for Bio520

    00:30:21: Building a Team and Hiring Strategy

    00:36:43: Key Decisions as a CEO

    00:39:36: Future Focus and Industry Trends

    00:42:55: Final Thoughts and Collaboration in the Industry

    Tweetable Quotes"I've always been interested in business, you know, small companies, and there's nothing more American to me than some guy or woman putting it on the line, blood, sweat, and tears, and trying to create something out of nothing.""Until you have had to meet a payroll and not pay yourself because there wasn't quite enough money for both, you're not really an entrepreneur.""You can't do everything well. If you can focus and do one thing really well, you can make money, and then you can start looking at this other stuff. But if you try to climb all five mountains at once, you're going to fall off and die."Resources Mentioned

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  • In this episode, I speak with Rick Langille, the Founder and CEO of Harvest Today. Rick's journey from growing up on a farm in Manitoba to becoming a serial entrepreneur in the manufacturing and electronics industries is nothing short of inspiring. We dive deep into his passion for vertical farming and how his diverse background has uniquely positioned him to innovate in this space. Rick shares candidly about the challenges and triumphs of building Harvest Today, emphasizing the importance of nutrient-dense food and the impact it can have on communities. His stories of sailing around the world and witnessing food insecurity firsthand add a rich layer to his mission of making fresh, healthy food accessible to all.

    Rick's warmth and genuine dedication to his work shine through as he discusses the intricacies of the Harvest Wall, a vertical farming solution designed to maximize space and efficiency. He talks about the importance of building a strong team, the lessons he's learned from his mentors, and the values that drive him. Whether you're a seasoned professional in the vertical farming industry or just curious about innovative ways to grow food, this episode is packed with insights and practical advice.

    Join us for a conversation that not only explores the technical aspects of vertical farming but also delves into the heart and soul behind Harvest Today.

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    Key Takeaways

    00:03:03: Transition from Farming to Manufacturing

    00:04:25: Sailing Adventure and Realization of Food Insecurity

    00:05:42: The Concept and Development of Harvest Today

    00:09:59: Nutrient Density and Flavor in Hydroponics

    00:11:40: The Importance of Fresh, Nutrient-Dense Food

    00:19:13: Building a Strong Team and Company Culture

    00:24:24: Challenges and Opportunities in Scaling Up

    00:32:28: The Catalyst for Starting Harvest Today

    00:36:14: Engineering and Design of the Harvest Wall

    00:42:40: Community Impact and Local Food Production

    00:45:28: Harvest Today App and Technology Integration

    Tweetable Quotes"I didn't want to be Rick had a family, had a business, and died. I'd like to think that people will look back at Harvest Today and know that we're not copiers. We don't. I'm not. If it was just to create another NFT channel system, I'm out. Like, that's not me. Right. Because I always believe that there's a better way to do things. It just might not. And not necessarily. Well, no, I am going to say better, because I'm going to hold up my flag and tell you that I really do believe that the harvest wall was designed, and we say engineered by farmers. For farmers.""Any leafy green or herbs can lose up to or more than 50% of its nutrient value within 72 hours. Then to lose 100% takes ten days. The average number of days it takes for a harvested farm or harvested vegetable, leafy greens or herbs to get to a grocery store shelf is ten. So that means everything that we're basically eating, be it any retailer that you're talking about, the value, the nutrient value of the food is zero.""Business is people. It's not about me. And that took me a while to figure that out. Certainly, I think the older we get, the ego gets smaller. Right. Hopefully, you know, and that's I think that. I hope that's the case for myself as I've gotten more gray hair. The ability to understand that if we build a really super strong team and we listen to them. Right. So. And I do listen to my people all the time."Resources Mentioned

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  • In this episode, I speak with Matt Lohr, Virginia's Secretary of Agriculture and Forestry, who brings a wealth of knowledge and a deep passion for agriculture. Matt shares his journey as a fifth-generation farmer from the Shenandoah Valley and how his early experiences on the farm with his grandfather shaped his love for the land and conservation. We dive into his varied career, from local public service roles to leading the Natural Resources Conservation Service at the USDA, and how these experiences have fueled his commitment to supporting the agricultural industry. Matt's stories about preserving his family's farming legacy and the importance of connecting people to the source of their food are truly heartwarming.

    We also explore Virginia's ambitious goals in the Controlled Environment Agriculture (CEA) space, driven by Governor Youngkin's vision to make the state a leader in indoor farming. Matt discusses the strategic advantages Virginia offers, from its geographical location to state investments and educational initiatives. He highlights the exciting developments in CEA, including innovative technologies and partnerships that are transforming the industry. Whether you're a seasoned farmer, an urban dweller curious about where your food comes from, or someone interested in the future of agriculture, this episode offers valuable insights and inspiration. Join us for a conversation that celebrates the past, present, and future of farming in Virginia.

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    Key Takeaways

    00:05:51: Importance of Local Food and Indoor Farming

    00:09:39: Becoming Secretary of Agriculture and Forestry

    00:13:35: Virginia's Commitment to Controlled Environment Agriculture (CEA)

    00:21:34: Diverse CEA Companies in Virginia

    00:27:08: Tough Questions and Economic Challenges

    00:29:37: Energy Demands in CEA

    00:29:55: Message to CEA Leaders and Innovator

    Tweetable Quotes"I'm a fifth-generation farmer in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, which is one of the breadbaskets of the country when it comes to ag production. Rockingham County is one of the top 30 or 40 counties in the country for ag production. Farming and agriculture have been my life. As a young child, I remember my earliest memories were walking alongside my grandfather on the farm and learning a love of the land and conservation. We have conservation easements on our farm to ensure my kids can be the sixth generation. Agriculture is in my life, and every part of my career over the last 30 years has been directly tied back to supporting the agricultural industry.""I grew up in a family where public service was stressed from day one. My father was very active with church and the Ruittian club, a service club community. My parents were active in the volunteer rescue squad and fire department for their entire career. I grew up around people who served. My first chance to serve was as a state international officer for the FFA organization, Future Farmers of America. I took a year out of college for both the state and then another year out as a national officer, dedicating my time for two years serving the ag industry, speaking in schools and communities, and lobbying for agriculture. I learned pretty early on that I wanted to have a career in advocacy and public service.""We have around 20 CEA companies in Virginia, and I've visited all of them. They all have their own secret sauce, whether it's a vertical farm or a greenhouse, the type of lighting or automation, or the types of products they're producing. The technology is incredible. I'm very excited to travel to Amsterdam for Greentech in June. The Dutch are the world leaders in greenhouse and food production, and they've got a great story to tell. The...
  • In this episode, I speak with Shlomy Raziel, the visionary behind Grow-Tec, joining us all the way from Israel. Shlomy shares his deeply rooted connection to agriculture, tracing back to his childhood in a Kibbutz and his family’s pioneering spirit in farming. His journey from managing large-scale agricultural projects to founding Grow-Tec is not just a career path but a continuation of a legacy. We dive into how his company is innovating in the vertical farming space, particularly focusing on fruiting vegetables, a challenging yet rewarding venture that sets them apart in the industry.

    Shlomy’s insights into the evolution of vertical farming are grounded in practicality and a clear vision for the future. He emphasizes the importance of collaboration within the industry to overcome common challenges like energy costs, climate control, and labor. His approach is refreshingly open, advocating for shared progress over competition. This conversation isn’t just about the technicalities of indoor farming; it’s a testament to how a passion rooted in tradition can foster innovation that might just change the world of agriculture. Join us to hear how Shlomy Raziel is not only navigating but also shaping the future of farming with thoughtful technology and a community-focused mindset.

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    Key Takeaways

    00:03:38 - The Idea and Vision Behind Growth Tech

    00:07:11 - Experiences in Kibbutz and Early Innovations

    00:13:44 - Changes and Adaptations in Business Model Over Time

    00:18:36 - Lessons Learned and Growth as a Leader

    00:23:08 - Perspective on the Vertical Farming Industry

    00:36:04 - Message to Peers in the Indoor Farming Space

    Tweetable Quotes"I was born and raised in a Kibbutz, just ten minutes from my office. From childhood, I was deeply involved in agriculture, starting with open field orchards and later moving on to greenhouses and Controlled Environment Agriculture (CEA) projects after university." "Big companies do great work with technology for the mainstream, but there's a lack of solutions for tailor-made projects. I found a niche in creating specific, precise solutions not just for mainstream agriculture but for unique, smaller-scale projects that big companies overlook." "The future of vertical farming should involve more collaboration. We need to establish forums and associations to share knowledge and technology openly. Improving key aspects like lighting, HVAC systems, and reducing manpower through automation benefits everyone in the industry, not just individual companies."Resources Mentioned

    Wesbite - https://grow-tec.com/

    Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@grow-tec8331

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/grow-tec

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/growtecc

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/grow.tec.verticalfarming/

    Twitter - https://twitter.com/GrowtecRP

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  • In this episode, I speak with Kaylee South, an Assistant Professor and Extension Specialist for Controlled Environment Agriculture (CEA) at Virginia Tech. Kaylee shares her journey from a rural upbringing, where her passion for horticulture was nurtured by family and educators, to her current role where she combines research with teaching the next generation of horticulturists. We dive into how her work not only involves growing plants but also exploring innovative agricultural methods and improving plant resilience through scientific research. Kaylee’s story is a testament to the impact of early exposure to agriculture and the profound influence of mentors.

    Our conversation also explores the broader implications of CEA in revitalizing urban spaces and enhancing educational programs. Kaylee highlights the potential of vertical farming to transform underutilized buildings into productive agricultural sites, offering fresh perspectives on sustainable urban development. She emphasizes the importance of industry-academia collaboration in advancing CEA technologies and practices. This episode is packed with insights not just about plant science but also about the evolving role of agriculture in addressing contemporary challenges. Whether you're an industry professional or simply curious about the future of farming, Kaylee’s experiences and insights underscore the dynamic nature of agricultural science and its critical role in shaping sustainable futures.

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    Key Takeaways

    00:06:27 - Application of Research in Real-world Settings

    00:13:34 - Involvement in CEA Summit and Indoor Ag-Con

    00:14:08 - Differences Between CEA Summit East and Other Conferences

    00:29:10 - Interest and Opportunities in Vertical Farming

    00:35:23 - Future Research Directions and Challenges

    00:39:15 - Increasing Interest in CEA Among Students

    Tweetable Quotes"I grew up helping my parents and grandparents in their gardens, which sparked my passion for horticulture. My high school agriculture teacher, Mr. Minyard, particularly encouraged me by involving me in greenhouse work, which solidified my love for working with plants.""My dissertation research involved using beneficial bacteria to improve plant defense against pathogens, specifically targeting botrytis cinerea, a common issue in greenhouse production. This research aimed to explore biocontrol agents and biostimulants to enhance plant growth and disease resistance.""Vertical farming offers unique opportunities, especially in urban settings where traditional farming isn't feasible. It's exciting to see interest from various sectors, including education, where vertical farms are used as tools for teaching and engaging students in agriculture and science."Resources Mentioned

    Twitter - https://twitter.com/south_kaylee

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaylee-south/

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  • In this episode, I speak with David Flynn, Vice President of Business Development at AmplifiedAg, and what a journey it's been! David shares his transition from military service to the world of vertical farming, and it's a testament to the power of mission-driven work. His experiences in Afghanistan, witnessing firsthand the struggles and triumphs of local agriculture, have fueled his passion for bringing fresh food to those in need. It's not every day you meet someone who's as dedicated to making a difference as David is.

    We dive into the nitty-gritty of AmplifiedAg's technology, from their propagation containers to their high-yield production units. David's insights into the challenges of energy costs and the need for industry-wide collaboration are eye-opening. It's clear that this isn't just about growing lettuce; it's about community, sustainability, and tackling food insecurity head-on. If you're curious about the future of controlled environment agriculture and the people who are pushing its boundaries, you won't want to miss this conversation. David's story is a reminder that with the right technology and a lot of heart, we can make a real impact, one container farm at a time.

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    Key Takeaways

    00:03:55: Transition from Military to Agriculture Technology

    00:06:02: The Evolution of AmplifiedAg and Vertical Roots

    00:10:53: Impact of COVID-19 on Business Operations

    00:16:23: Observations on the Growth of the C EA Industry

    00:21:20: AmplifiedAg's Current Size and Product Offerings

    00:34:51: The Importance of Industry Transparency and Collaboration

    Tweetable Quotes"I don't believe in coincidences, per se. When I moved to Charleston, I met Don Taylor, who's the founder of our company, AmplifiedAg. He painted a vision of marrying technology with agriculture, trying to do good things with technology and agriculture, promoting businesses, job development, and providing fresh food to people in need.""The biggest conversion we made was from an Aeroponics system to a Nutrient Film Technique system using crop king gutters in a stacked formation inside of our containers. That really was a game changer for us.""The core mission of the company was to provide safe access to fresh food globally. We're working with foundations across the country, non-governmental organizations trying to solve food insecurity. We're driven right now to look for opportunities to be a system integrator, to bring food security, help leverage food security for people in need."Resources Mentioned

    Website - https://amplifiedaginc.com/

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/amplifiedaginc/

    Twitter - https://twitter.com/amplifiedaginc

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/amplifiedag

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  • In this episode, I speak with Whit Allen, the charismatic CEO of SpectraGrow, as we dive into a world where the rhythm of music intertwines with the innovation of agriculture. It's a conversation that takes us from energy of DJing to the vibrant greenery of vertical farms. We reminisce about our days behind the decks and reveal how those experiences have given us a unique tempo for tackling the professional challenges we face today. Whit brings a refreshing perspective on the journey from spinning records to advocating for clean technology in Washington D.C., and how every step has influenced the birth and growth of SpectraGrow.

    The power of collaboration shines through in our chat, from the influence of mastermind groups to the shared problem-solving that’s steering the industry towards sustainable success. You'll hear firsthand about the nitty-gritty of lighting innovation, the significance of strategic planning for farm setups, and the camaraderie that's sprouting among agri-tech leaders in Colorado and beyond. Join me for an episode that celebrates the progress and growth at the heart of urban farming.

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    Key Takeaways

    00:00 Connecting Music and Agriculture

    09:38 Career Evolution and Clean Tech Lobbying

    16:19 Origin and Ideal Clients of SpectraGrow

    27:53 LED Innovation and Energy Efficiency

    31:34 Collaboration and Growth in Vertical Farming

    44:18 Power of Mastermind Groups

    Tweetable Quotes"When I took a course called Truth, Love, and Marketing here in Boulder, one of the exercises was to describe your creative process. It was so easy to describe my creative process with DJing and music, and then I saw the parallels in how I bring that creative energy to launching an entrepreneurial company. How we market, how we sell, how we talk about what we do—it all has roots in that creative process from music.""We often make recommendations to relay out a farm based on lighting, and we show that if we reorganize the farm in a certain way, we could get much better performance out of the lighting strategy. My advice is always to bring us in as early as possible in the planning process because our ability to add value decreases the later we're brought into the project.""The intuition is a huge part of decision-making in business, and it's a weird word to use because people in business like spreadsheets, they like numbers, they like analysis. But at the end of the day, you have to interpret the data, and there's a point where you've got to trust other sensors that might not be so obvious that you could put on a spreadsheet, but are important things to consider."Resources Mentioned

    Website - https://www.spectragrow.com

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/spectragrow_inc

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/spectragrow

    Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spectragrow

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  • In this episode, I speak with Katherine Soll , a powerhouse of knowledge and change in the realm of urban agriculture. She takes us through her inspiring journey from her New York City upbringing to her influential role as the founder and CEO of Teens for Food Justice.

    With a nod to Agritechture’s Henry Gordon- Smith for his support and insight, Katherine and I delve into the transformative world of hydroponic farms, the importance of food equity, and the incredible shift from food deserts to the more nuanced concept of food apartheid. It's a conversation that's not only about the growth of plants but also about the growth of young minds and communities.

    We really dig into what it takes to cultivate an organization that stands firm against the winds of challenge. Katherine 's narrative is a testament to the resilience needed to lead such impactful work, and her experiences offer a treasure trove of wisdom on nurturing the next generation of leaders.

    By integrating technology with hands-on education, Katherine 's team is planting the seeds for a greener, more equitable NYC, and beyond. It's a tale of hope, hard work, and the harvest that comes from truly rooting for change.

    Join us as we explore the greening of urban spaces and the empowerment of youth in a movement that's redefining our relationship with food and community.

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    Key Takeaways

    00:00 Growing Up in NYC

    10:25 Evolution of Teens for Food Justice

    17:26 Building Resilient Community Farming Organization

    25:09 Urban Farming Impact and Student Success

    30:33 Expanding Urban Agriculture and Food Access

    35:46 Letting Go and Trusting Your Team

    41:19 Navigating Mission Creep in Vertical Farming

    46:15 Teen Food Justice Organization Promotion

    Tweetable Quotes"One of the things that was really amazing about growing up in New York, I think, was the level of independence that you have when you're really very young. Being able to walk to school by yourself, go places with your friends by yourself, that independence gives you a perspective on the world that's really different than when you grow up in a car culture.""I think that service is an incredible way to get people to look outside of their own self and their own interests and to understand that we're only going to thrive if we're all thriving together.""I think that if you never have the experience of really needing to show that level of vulnerability and see that you're gonna survive, that yeah, you miss something. I think that's a really important honing process that has served me. It was extremely hard, but again, I try to approach things by saying what is the beneficial lying underneath this thing that didn't go the way I planned."Resources Mentioned

    Website - https://teensforfoodjustice.org/

    Twitter - https://twitter.com/tffjinitiative

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/teensforfoodjustice/?hl=en

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/katherine.soll/

    Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/company/teensforfoodjustice/

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  • In this episode, I speak with Rick Vanzura, CEO of Freight Farms, who takes us on a captivating journey from his days in the retail trenches to becoming a trailblazer in the vertical farming industry. Rick’s transformation from working with household names like Borders Group and Panera Bread to redefining local food systems with Freight Farms is nothing short of inspiring.

    He generously shares his Bostonian roots and the pivotal encounters that shaped his business acumen, particularly a chance meeting with Jeff Bezos that reshaped his view on potential versus present limitations. It's a tale that’s as much about personal evolution as it is about the growing promise of urban agriculture.

    Dive into the world of vertical farming as Rick lays out the complexities of supply chain management and the innovative strides Freight Farms is making in controlled environment agriculture. Our discussion navigates through the importance of industry collaboration, learning from mistakes, and creating a culture that empowers and educates.

    Rick's blueprint for success isn’t just about thriving in business; it's about building a resilient and sustainable future for food production. So, if you're curious about the inner workings of vertical farming and how leaders like Rick are steering this burgeoning industry, you'll want to tune in.

    This conversation is an eye-opener for anyone interested in the intersection of entrepreneurship and environmental stewardship.

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    Key Takeaways

    00:00 Innovation and Collaboration in Vertical Farming

    09:48 Collaboration and Progress in Farming

    15:31 Challenges and Opportunities in Vertical Farming

    26:35 Vertical Farming Industry Trends and Leadership

    32:11 Leadership in Vertical Farming Collaboration

    Tweetable Quotes"We don't inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children, and here's our chance to play our role in paying back a little for our kids, which in so many ways I think is important.""The right model is definitely going to be co-opetition. We have to recognize we all need to develop and protect stuff that makes us unique and special, but at the same time, we're all going to benefit from things like common R&D and industry standards.""If you really focus on where that huge opportunity lies, that was a big part of what brought me to Freight Farms. Understanding how big the potential could be, I never again am going to allow myself to be short sighted and overly analytical about where something is today versus thinking about what can be in the future."Resources Mentioned

    Website - https://www.freightfarms.com/

    Twitter - https://twitter.com/FreightFarms

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/freightfarms/?hl=en

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/freightfarms/

    Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/company/freight-farms/

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  • In this episode, I speak with Alex Babich, who's pioneering the agricultural tech revolution with his startup, Nuravine. We dive into Alex's childhood, his journey through self-education and college, and the formative experiences that led him to combine technology with sustainable farming. Alex's vision of AI-driven vertical farms is a game-changer for the future of agriculture, and it was an absolute pleasure to get an insider's look at how he's bringing this vision to life.

    Hearing Alex detail the steps of Nuravine's evolution, from its inception during a college competition to the resilient growth during COVID, truly showcases the spirit of entrepreneurship. His insights into the fusion of computer engineering with agriculture and the potential of AI to revolutionize farming practices are inspiring.

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    Key Takeaways

    00:00 Growing Up in NYC and Carmel

    08:11 Future City With Vertical Farming

    12:39 The Journey of Nuravine

    22:41 Choosing Between Pump Systems in Agriculture

    26:39 Cannabis Entrepreneurship and Pump Systems

    29:42 Building Nuravine

    35:38 The Advanced and Flexible Dosing System

    41:15 Continuous Nutrient Dosing in Farming Benefits

    45:56 Expanding Product Development and Funding Opportunities

    54:52 AI and the Future of Farming

    01:00:11 Connecting With Nuravine

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    "I love learning math, I want to understand it all, and I started to have this vision of, I really want to know math because I want to like look outside and I want to see equations, I want to see the world in a mathematical way."

    "There are enough resources on earth for everyone to have a very high standard of living and in a certain sense, the monetary system can get in the way of that."

    "They have a competition where you could either win 25,000 or 50,000 dollars. And I went to him and I asked, do you want to start a business together?"

    Resources Mentioned

    Nuravine Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/nuravine/

    Personal Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/alex.babich/

    Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-babich-nuravine/

    Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@nuravine7984

    Website - https://nuravine.com/

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  • In this episode, I speak with Daniel Plant, the inspiring mind behind Plant Dynamics, as we delve into his remarkable transition from the disciplined life of the Canadian Armed Forces to becoming a consultant in the agtech space. Daniel's unique journey has not only shaped a resilient work ethic but has also carved out an innovative path in the world of modern farming. Through his stories, we uncover how embracing a global perspective can significantly influence both personal growth and professional endeavors. It's not every day you meet someone who can seamlessly merge military precision with the dynamic needs of an agtech consultancy, and Daniel's experiences offer invaluable lessons for anyone looking to make a meaningful impact.

    We'll navigate the intricate transformation of Plant Dynamics from its early days to its current role as a guiding light in agtech strategy. Daniel generously shares the hurdles and triumphs encountered along the way, including adapting to the startup culture and confronting challenges like the global pandemic and shifting supply chains. As we explore the future of CEA, Daniel's insights into the critical importance of data and clear business communication illuminate the path forward for the industry. This conversation is a must-listen for those curious about the intersection of agriculture, technology, and business strategy, as we connect the dots between resilience, innovation, and the drive to revolutionize farming practices.

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    Key Takeaways

    00:00 Exploring Worldview and Career Choices

    16:13 The Evolution of Plant Dynamics

    25:10 Shift Towards Detailed Microeconomics in AgTech

    36:13 Challenges and Opportunities in CEA Development

    44:56 Communication Challenges in the CEA Industry

    52:14 Advancing CEA Infrastructure for Fresh Produce

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    "What pays for the nation's bills is the earnings of the people. And if you do all kinds of analysis on this question different places, different points of time what determines GDP per capita you will find that the most powerful explanatory variable is the cost of extracting energy."

    "Now I am seeing a big shift from scale to super detailed microeconomics and unit economics... there's now, I think, full appreciation that you need to come in and have some kind of a corporate structure around your production facility, which includes sales and marketing and should include offtake agreements, such that you have a business plan that is more than just a design of a facility before you begin."

    "I want to make economics more actionable because it is very helpful. It can clarify strategy. But how you bridge that gap, to take something that feels so esoteric and far-flung from the immediate problems people are trying to address, and communicate it in a simple way that it can be adopted that's always a challenge."

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    Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/danplant/

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  • In this eye-opening episode, I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the hydroponic maestro himself, Joe Swartz. Joe brings a wealth of knowledge to the table, drawing from nearly four decades of experience in the realm of Controlled Environment Agriculture (CEA). With Joe's guidance, we journey through the evolution of farming, bursting myths like bubbles and paving a clear path through the oft-misunderstood landscape of hydroponic agriculture. He shares his rich history, from traditional farming roots to the forefront of agricultural innovation, and reminds us that while the tools may change, the core principles of good farming remain steadfast. Joe's candid insights and personal anecdotes truly bring the conversation to life, offering a treasure trove of green wisdom that's both grounding and revolutionary.

    Diving into the nitty-gritty of indoor vertical farming, Joe unravels the complexities with the finesse of a seasoned expert. He doesn't shy away from the hard truths, confronting the economic and logistical challenges head-on and providing a balanced view that blends caution with optimism. As Joe unveils AmHydro's cutting-edge contributions—think AI, machine learning, and automation—it's hard not to feel a surge of excitement for the future of farming. Yet, he encourages a healthy skepticism and the importance of validating technology's promise, ensuring we remain rooted in practical, successful practices. By the end of our talk, I was left feeling incredibly inspired and humbled by the depth of knowledge Joe imparted. This is an episode brimming with valuable takeaways for anyone curious about the future of sustainable agriculture. So join us as we cultivate not just crops, but a flourishing community of knowledge-seekers in this dynamic field.

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    Key Takeaways

    00:00 The Journey of a Hydroponic Farmer

    14:00 Myths and Mistakes in CEA Industry

    23:00 Challenges and Myths of Vertical Farming

    26:34 Cyclical Indoor Farming Technologies

    30:57 AmHydro's Tools for Growers

    45:41 Indoor Farming Tips and Wisdom

    53:29 Social Media and YouTube for AmHydro

    Tweetable Quotes

    "The process that makes up traditional farming are no different... We're using different tools, but the process is exactly the same."

    "The idea of CEA controlled environment agriculture really, again, it's not about technology. It's about taking the equipment, the tools, the methods, the technologies that we have available and farming with them. Agriculture."

    "We're not trying to develop a technology and say, hey, buy our technology because it's really cool. We actually wanna come to the industry and say, here's a tool that we've developed based on your needs, based on where your pain points are."

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    Email - [email protected]

    Twitter - https://twitter.com/HydroConsultant

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/joeswartz1325/

    Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-swartz-5549331a/

    Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@AmericanHydroponics

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