Episodes
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Today, we welcome Will Sartain from S&S Presents and Best Friends Forever Festival. Will and I talk about Kilby Court, the longest-running all-ages venue in SLC, and his DIY past. We dive into first thoughts and planning for the festival. It's a really fun look behind the curtain on one of the most unique festivals hitting a specific time frame and Venn diagram we all know and love. If you’re on the way, you’re on your way back. If you've never heard of it, take a second and check it out.
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Today on the podcast, we welcome sunny day real estate. Jeremy Enigk, William Goldsmith, and Dan Hoerner recently took time to chat with me ahead of this run around the anniversary of Diary.
I didn’t edit it. I just talk to them as you would if you got to sit with them for an hour. I hope you feel you’re next to them, chiming in or nodding along. i can’t explain listening back to this the joy I feel hearing them all happy. This is a celebration. A band so cherished and revered is better than they were when you say you saw them first. Go see them now.
I can’t explain how much getting 250 episodes feels, either. I can try, but through many ups and downs, as I’m sure you have going on now, in the past, or up ahead, it felt right to have this happen now. I struggle a lot with keeping up, and I struggle with thinking no one cares. This past year, I spent a lot of time looking for support in those ups and downs.
Hearing SDRE laugh, talk over each other, remind each other of things, and support each other as they go down this road of not nostalgia but celebration and continuation of a band that goes beyond a word, a phase, or even a scene.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you to Jeremy, William, and Dan for coming on and sharing a little about themselves. I hope you enjoy listening along with all the mistakes, my usual questions about emo. I think 250 in, I am not changing the format, there are plenty more stories to hear from our heroes, here’s to 250 more.
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Tony and Jamie from Prawn come on the podcast to talk about getting back together, doomsday prepping, Erewhon, and we inform Tony about a Key and Peele sketch on texting.
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I last spoke to Orenda for episode 181 with her bandmate Maria Taylor for the band Azure Ray. Today, we’re discussing her new book, “The Witch’s Daughter.” I finished this book in about four days and couldn’t put it down. It’s an amazing book about trauma. There will be something that resonates with you, a family member, or a friend at some point while reading this book. If you aren't convinced, you will want to read this book after listening to the conversation.
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Vagrant Records was on fire in the 2000s. That fire was fueled by their music videos, which, at the time, was how you got to the kids. Maureen Barry was a true pioneer in making amazing videos in this scene, and with some timing, millions saw them. This is how she started; the stories are attached to some of your favorite band's music videos and careers.
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Today, we welcome John Anderson from Boys Life and Suburban Eyes. We talk about the recent unreleased songs from Boys Life streaming via Numero Group and his new group, Suburban Eyes, with Eric Richter from Christie Front Drive and Jeremy Gomez from Mineral. Suburban Eyes' record is out in August via Spartan Records. I hope you enjoy the episode!
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Boys Life / Suburban Eyes
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David NeSmith has been part of some groundbreaking bands in emo. He's not afraid to say it throughout the episode, either! From Maximillian Colby's screamo days to the dissonance of Sleepytime Trio and his work with Bats & Mice. They all scream not just emo but a need to create and share new sounds still to this day. Dave made a playlist you can check out on WashedUpEmo.com or below on the discography of his career. Dive in.
The new Bats & Mice record is called Ps: Seriously.
Dave's playlist
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Today on the podcast, we welcome John O'Callaghan from The Maine. The Maine have had a long history in the scene and are about to jump on the Sad Summer Tour. John and I spoke about emo extensively and how the band and the music have stayed alive after all these years. I love how little it took to edit. I had a blast talking to John about all things music and emo.
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Today on the podcast, we welcome Vish Khanna from the Kreative Kontrol podcast. Vish has had almost 900 guests from across the creative spectrum. A truly amazing interviewer, and it was an honor to have him on the show. Thanks to Holmes from American Football for connecting us!
http://vishkhanna.com/
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Today on the podcast, we welcome David Mitchell from the Montreal-based band Gulfer. I have loved them since I first heard them in the 2010s. I’ve had a soft spot for their sound and continued work ethic to make music through things that happen in life. Their most recent album, out as of late February, is called Third Wind, and boy, do we get on the chats about waves of emo and the in-between waves as well. Thanks to Topshelf Records, the excellent label that helped put this interview together. Go check out Gulfer. It's a gem worth taking repeated spins in the car with the windows rolled down.
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Gulfer's Definitive Guide to 4.5 Wave Emo (2015-2018)
https://www.topshelfrecords.com/roster/gulfer
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Today on the podcast, we welcome Dallas Green from City and Colour and Alexisonfire. I’ve had the pleasure of working with him over the years and he helped shape who I am. We got to catch up about emo, what Elliott means to him, Canadian bands you should check out, who has been lost, and what he’s looking forward to. Thank you for listening and thanks to all at Dine Alone team for helping make this happen.
Photo credit: Vanessa Heins
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Originally from Baltimore, Christine Osazuwa got her start in music at 15. She holds degrees in music, marketing and data science and combined those passions into roles in data & marketing at Universal Music Sweden and Warner Music Group in London. Currently, Christine is the Chief Strategy Officer for ticketing & event marketing startup Shoobs where she leads their marketing & brand partnerships strategy. In addition, she sits on the board of The LIVE Association, Indie Venue Week, and Keychange US. Christine is also the Founder of Measure of Music–part conference, part hackathon– which introduces music & data to others while highlighting majority minority attendees and speakers.
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Today on the podcast, we welcome Tim Semple, drummer from Boilermaker. Boilermaker was a band from the San Diego area and was on a few labels, including our friends Better Looking Records, who had a CD compilation called Leucadia that has been taking on a life of its own over the years. As the constant feeding frenzy for what’s not streaming, Boilermaker had a few things not up as they say, and Numero Group stepped in to help get them in the ears of those searching.
One person in Boilermaker hasn’t been able to see this rebirth. Terrin Durfey, who played bass and sang in Boilermaker, passed away from cancer in 2008. Tim speaks about hearing Terrin live and the weird crew of people they connected with within their short time together as a band.
A must listen.
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Today on the podcast, we welcome Jason Trabue. He’s an accomplished tour and production manager for many bands, including Jimmy Eat World and Garbage. His story of how he got there slides into hardcore and emo with his roots in Kansas City, deciding to try something and started learning the road from the other side. You may have seen him with Hopesfall or alongside other bands in that world. This episode is an excellent lesson for working hard and being calm in a place with constant chaos. Look out for some new Casket Lottery with Jason on the drums or see him on the largest tours in the world, holding it down for many years to come. It was an honor to have him talk about his life.
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Garrett Rothman started Art Monk Construction with a friend back in the 90s to release some amazing records. I was obsessed with some of their releases including Seven Storey Mountain and Kerosene 454. Garrett was also in some amazing bands like Junction and Don't Sleep. His most recent project Calling Hours has a new album out now on Revelation Records. Garrett has some amazing stories about his time in bands, running the label, and his connection to DC. Enjoy!
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Today, we welcome Nicholas Pye from the mid-90s band Shotmaker. Recently, Solid Brass compiled all of their music into some beautiful vinyl and digital releases for your ears. They are a fantastic band that was only around for a short period of time, but their sound and influence still resonate today.
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Today on the podcast, we welcome back Matt Pryor. Matt is on to talk about his recently announced memoir he wrote called Red Letter Days. It’s up for pre-order right now, or if you’re in the future, head over to Washed Up Books to get one!
Matt and I discuss how he started writing, how he feels about it now, how his adversity and stories helped him deal with many things, and how he’s better for it.
Quick note: We mentioned a guy named Frank early on. We were talking about Frank Turner, the musician who helped Matt start the process of writing. This has been a fantastic partnership where Matt trusted me as I dove deeper into book publishing, and he did the same by bearing his soul in this book. I hope you enjoy the book, or if you’re coming back after reading and listening to this, I hope it adds to the pages you’ve read. Either way, thanks for supporting Washed Up Emo.
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With the launch of Matt's first memoir, "Red Letter Days," I listened to the first time Matt and I spoke for the podcast. It was great that I thought it was worth having those who may have missed. Plus, this was a big launching point for the show as I was starting to get bigger and bigger guests. Crazy to think that was 10 years ago this month.
Please pre-order Matt's book "Red Letter Days" at WashedUpBooks.com
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Notes from episode 20 I wrote in 2013...
"It was an absolute honor to have Mr. Matt Pryor from The Get Up Kids be a part of the podcast. I just noticed after listening back to this episode that the only person left to interview from my opening musical montage is Jeremy Enigk. What a trip it's been. Matt was great to chat with and even had to scold his kids who you can hear at times during the interview. We dove into the first time Matt sang live in front of someone, Kansas City, Boy's Life, ripping off "Static Prevails" and why bands do 10 year anniversaries. Matt also mentioned his opinion on the word "emo" and throughout the podcast you can hear his voice ring with truth that also transcends to the bands he was in and his way of life. And you have to hear what song The Get Up Kids never have to practice that you love. Finally, download his recently launched podcast "Nothing To Write Home About" which is a great listen and unique insight into the scene."
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Today, on the podcast, there is a massive announcement. This morning, I launched a book publishing company called Washed Up Books. After two volumes of Anthology of Emo, I really felt there was more to do in this space and because of your support, it’s time to make this a real thing.
Today, I’m proud to announce Red Letter Days, the debut novel from Matt Pryor from the Get Up Kids, New Amsterdams, and Terrible Twos. Today, it’s available for preorder via WashedUpBooks.com or via our friends at PolyvinylRecords.com. And yes, it is available worldwide. Wherever you are in the world, you can get this!
I thought it would be fun to recap the releases of Anthology of Emo and how we got to doing Red Letter Days with the designer Jesse Reed. Jesse’s day job is Order, a design firm, Standards Manual book series, and in a fantastic band called Sharkswimmer, where he’s the drummer. It’ll make sense as you hear the episode. Jesse was invaluable to making these a reality, and we go into the story of how we started doing books and dive into books and music.
This is overwhelming to have happened. It’s amazing to think someone like Matt Pryor, whom I idolized, has put pen to paper and written a fantastic series of stories that I have been waiting to tell you for so long.
Truly, thank you for the support on this podcast and the books. Shout out to everyone who helped make the Anthologies happen, Polyvinyl Records, Ian King, and many others… This is just the start of Washed Up Books.
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Today on the podcast, we welcome Eric Richter and Glenn Maryansky from the band Antarctica. Eric was in Christie Front Drive and has been on the podcast before. Eric had this other band with an amazing group of musicians in the late 90s in NYC that went more toward the NYC electronic scene and more Underworld, New Order, The Cure, Ride, etc. At the time, it was largely forgotten. Solid Brass Records is getting this stuff online for everyone to enjoy.
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