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In the second part of their conversation, Dr. Leon Moores and Dr. John Studdard dive deeper into the critical role of leadership development for physicians. Dr. Studdard shares how mentors from his time at the renowned Mayo Clinic encouraged him to get involved with national organizations like the American College of Chest Physicians (CHEST). He recounts his path to leadership within CHEST, including serving as president, and his work representing the organization during the historic 1998 negotiations with the tobacco industry. The physicians discuss the importance of advocacy and using one's platform to drive positive change on issues that impact patient health. Dr. Studdard candidly reflects on aspects of leadership he might approach differently now, emphasizing the need to listen empathetically and make others feel valued. The conversation explores how professional medical societies can better cultivate the next generation of physician leaders through mentorship, sponsorship, and increased transparency. Dr. Studdard offers advice for young doctors looking to develop their leadership abilities, emphasizing the value of taking initiative and fostering relationships with experienced mentors. Throughout the dialogue, both physicians underscore how strengthening leadership skills allows doctors to elevate team performance, relationships with patients, and ultimately, clinical outcomes. The episode highlights leadership as an essential but often underemphasized competency for physicians to master.
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In this episode of the "All Physicians Lead" podcast, Dr. Leon Moores sits down with Dr. John Studdard, a pulmonary and critical care physician with nearly 40 years of experience. The two explore Dr. Studdard's journey from growing up in Mississippi to his medical training at the renowned Mayo Clinic and his subsequent career in private practice back home. Dr. Studdard reflects on the powerful influence his Southern upbringing had on his worldview and drive to give back to his community. He shares insights from his decades in private practice, highlighting the efficiencies and close teamwork that defined that environment. The physicians discuss how leadership manifests differently in academic versus private settings and the value of continuous learning from colleagues. Dr. Studdard candidly examines aspects of his career he might approach differently with the benefit of hindsight, advocating for more emphasis on teaching and questioning norms. The conversation underscores how self-reflection enables physicians to elevate their leadership skills and impact throughout their careers. By accepting their inherent roles as leaders, doctors can transform team dynamics, relationships with patients, and ultimately, clinical outcomes.
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After explaining her "theory of expert leadership" and its relevance to the healthcare field, Amanda Goodall shares what motivated her to create an Executive Master's program specifically tailored for physician leaders at Bayes Business School. She discusses the unique challenges and opportunities that physicians face when taking on leadership roles within healthcare organizations. The program aims to equip doctor-leaders with the essential management and leadership skills to complement their clinical expertise. Goodall emphasizes the importance of integrating leadership development into medical training and continuing education. Goodall also offers advice for physicians interested in stepping into leadership positions. When clinical mastery is combined with trained leadership skills, doctors can become tremendously effective and credible leaders capable of driving meaningful change for their teams and organizations.
About Amanda Goodall PhD: Dr. Goodall is Professor in Leadership at Bayes Business School (formerly Cass). Her main work analyses the relationship between leadership, management and organizational performance. It shows that leaders who have a deep understanding of the core business (‘expert leaders’) are associated with better organizational performance, higher employee job satisfaction and fewer quits. Being a good manager alone is not sufficient. Evidence supporting the ‘theory of expert leadership’ comes from business, healthcare, universities, Formula 1, basketball, and among professionals. She has also done important research into gender differences in pay and negotiation, and writes on diversity more broadly. Amanda publishes in academic journals, practitioner publications (e.g. HBR) and in the media (e.g. Financial Times). In June 2023 she released a business book titled “Credible: The power of Expert Leadership”, with Basic Books and Public Affairs (Hachette).
She has been a research fellow at Cornell, IZA Institute of Labor Economics in Bonn, University of Zurich and Yale University. Based on her research, she created the Executive Masters in Medical Leadership a program tailored to the needs of physicians. Her work is available at www.amandagoodall.com
Amanda began her career at 16 in the fashion industry, followed by a decade working with campaigning and charitable organizations, before graduating from the London School of Economics. After a few years working with university leaders she completed her PhD in leadership at Warwick Business School in 2007, which was published in 2009, “Socrates in the Boardroom’, Princeton University Press”. -
In the latest episode of All Physicians Lead, Dr. Leon Moores sits down with Amanda Goodall, PhD, Professor of Leadership at Bayes Business School and author of "Credible: The Power of Expert Leaders." Dr. Goodall shares her groundbreaking research showing that organizations led by those with deep expertise in the core business tend to outperform those led by generalist managers alone. Her "theory of expert leadership" is backed by extensive data from industries like business, healthcare, universities, auto racing, and professional sports. Dr. Goodall explains why doctors and physicians, as subject matter experts, can be particularly effective leaders when they embrace leadership roles in addition to their clinical duties. The conversation explores tangible ways physicians can develop their leadership skills to elevate team performance and drive better patient outcomes. Dr. Moores and Dr. Goodall discuss the importance of weaving leadership training into medical education and continuing education for practicing physicians. Listeners will gain insights into cultivating credibility as an expert leader, overcoming resistance to physician leadership, and striking the right balance between clinical and administrative responsibilities. This episode reinforces the core message that all physicians already lead daily, and can maximize their positive impact by intentionally developing leadership capabilities.
About Amanda Goodall PhD: Dr. Goodall is Professor in Leadership at Bayes Business School (formerly Cass). Her main work analyses the relationship between leadership, management and organizational performance. It shows that leaders who have a deep understanding of the core business (‘expert leaders’) are associated with better organizational performance, higher employee job satisfaction and fewer quits. Being a good manager alone is not sufficient. Evidence supporting the ‘theory of expert leadership’ comes from business, healthcare, universities, Formula 1, basketball, and among professionals. She has also done important research into gender differences in pay and negotiation, and writes on diversity more broadly. Amanda publishes in academic journals, practitioner publications (e.g. HBR) and in the media (e.g. Financial Times). In June 2023 she released a business book titled “Credible: The power of Expert Leadership”, with Basic Books and Public Affairs (Hachette).
She has been a research fellow at Cornell, IZA Institute of Labor Economics in Bonn, University of Zurich and Yale University. Based on her research, she created the Executive Masters in Medical Leadership a program tailored to the needs of physicians. Her work is available at www.amandagoodall.com
Amanda began her career at 16 in the fashion industry, followed by a decade working with campaigning and charitable organizations, before graduating from the London School of Economics. After a few years working with university leaders she completed her PhD in leadership at Warwick Business School in 2007, which was published in 2009, “Socrates in the Boardroom’, Princeton University Press”. -
In part two, Dr. Leon Moores explores Dr. Jonathan Woodson's time serving as Assistant Secretary of Defense for Health Affairs under President Obama. Dr. Woodson explains why identifying core values is crucial for any leader seeking to enact change, particularly in complex bureaucracies like the massive Defense Health Agency. He shares key insights from reorganizing military medicine to better integrate services across the Army, Navy, and Air Force.Tune in for an in-depth discussion on the intricacies of leading major health and governmental organizations as well as Dr. Woodson’s perspectives on the values ethical leaders need to guide decisions.
About Dr. Jonathan Woodson: Dr. Woodson is the seventh President of the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences (USU). As such, he is responsible for the academic, research, and leadership mission of the university, which includes a combined total of more than 2,500 students in the F. Edward Hébert School of Medicine and its associated graduate programs in the biomedical sciences and public health, the Daniel K. Inouye Graduate School of Nursing, the university’s Postgraduate Dental College, and the College of Allied Health Sciences. Through its graduate and undergraduate programs, the University has more than 11,500 alumni, many of whom serve the nation as uniformed health providers or civilian scientists. Dr. Woodson also oversees more than 15 research centers and the Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute (AFRRI).
Prior to his current position, Dr. Woodson was a Lars Anderson Professor in Management and Professor of the Practice at Boston University’s (BU) Questrom School of Business. He holds joint appointments as a professor of Surgery at the School of Medicine and a professor of Health Law, Policy, and Management at the School of Public Health. He established and led the BU university-wide Institute for Health System Innovation and Policy.
From 2010-2016, Dr. Woodson was Assistant Secretary of Defense for Health Affairs and Director of the Tricare Management Activity in the United States Department of Defense (DoD). He was the principal advisor to the Secretary of Defense for all health and force health protection-related issues and ensured the effective execution of the DoD medical mission. He exercised authority, direction, and control over the Defense Health Agency, USU, AFRRI, Defense Center of Excellence for Psychological Health and Traumatic Brain Injury, and the Tricare Health Plan serving 9.5 million beneficiaries.
Before his appointment to the DoD by President Obama in 2010, Dr. Woodson was a professor of Surgery and Associate Dean for Students, Diversity, and Multicultural Affairs, and senior attending vascular surgeon at Boston Medical Center. In 2016, he was appointed as a member of the USU Board of Regents and later served as its chair. Dr. Woodson retired at the rank of Major General, United States Army Reserve, and as Commander of the United States Army Reserve Medical Command, Pinellas Park, Florida, in June 2022 after 36 years of service. His military deployments include Saudi Arabia for Operation Desert Storm, Kosovo, and Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom. He is a former senior medical officer with the National Disaster Management System, through which he responded to the September 11, 2001, attack on the World Trade Center.
Dr. Woodson is a graduate of the City College of New York and the New York University School of Medicine. He received his postgraduate medical education at Massachusetts General Hospital, Harvard Medical School, and completed residency training in internal medicine, as well as general and vascular surgery. He is board-certified in internal medicine, general surgery, vascular surgery, and critical care surgery. He also holds a master’s degree in strategic studies (concentration in strategic leadership) from the United States Army War College. In 1992, he was awarded a research fellowship at the Association of American Medical Colleges Health Services Research Institute. -
In this week's episode of All Physicians Lead, Dr. Leon Moores is joined by Dr. Jonathan Woodson, the seventh President of the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences. As president, Dr. Woodson oversees USU's academic and research missions across medicine, nursing, public health, and more, shaping the next generation of military health professionals. Prior to his current role, Dr. Woodson served as the top health advisor in the Obama Administration's Department of Defense. He has also held various academic leadership positions and professorships focused on health policy, management, and surgery. A retired Major General, Dr. Woodson brings decades of military, medical, and policy experience to further USU's vital mission of educating and developing uniformed health professionals. Tune in to hear his unique perspectives on leadership, medicine, and military health.
About Dr. Jonathan Woodson: Dr. Woodson is the seventh President of the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences (USU). As such, he is responsible for the academic, research, and leadership mission of the university, which includes a combined total of more than 2,500 students in the F. Edward Hébert School of Medicine and its associated graduate programs in the biomedical sciences and public health, the Daniel K. Inouye Graduate School of Nursing, the university’s Postgraduate Dental College, and the College of Allied Health Sciences. Through its graduate and undergraduate programs, the University has more than 11,500 alumni, many of whom serve the nation as uniformed health providers or civilian scientists. Dr. Woodson also oversees more than 15 research centers and the Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute (AFRRI).Prior to his current position, Dr. Woodson was a Lars Anderson Professor in Management and Professor of the Practice at Boston University’s (BU) Questrom School of Business. He holds joint appointments as a professor of Surgery at the School of Medicine and a professor of Health Law, Policy, and Management at the School of Public Health. He established and led the BU university-wide Institute for Health System Innovation and Policy.
From 2010-2016, Dr. Woodson was Assistant Secretary of Defense for Health Affairs and Director of the Tricare Management Activity in the United States Department of Defense (DoD). He was the principal advisor to the Secretary of Defense for all health and force health protection-related issues and ensured the effective execution of the DoD medical mission. He exercised authority, direction, and control over the Defense Health Agency, USU, AFRRI, Defense Center of Excellence for Psychological Health and Traumatic Brain Injury, and the Tricare Health Plan serving 9.5 million beneficiaries.
Before his appointment to the DoD by President Obama in 2010, Dr. Woodson was a professor of Surgery and Associate Dean for Students, Diversity, and Multicultural Affairs, and senior attending vascular surgeon at Boston Medical Center. In 2016, he was appointed as a member of the USU Board of Regents and later served as its chair. Dr. Woodson retired at the rank of Major General, United States Army Reserve, and as Commander of the United States Army Reserve Medical Command, Pinellas Park, Florida, in June 2022 after 36 years of service. His military deployments include Saudi Arabia for Operation Desert Storm, Kosovo, and Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom. He is a former senior medical officer with the National Disaster Management System, through which he responded to the September 11, 2001, attack on the World Trade Center.
Dr. Woodson is a graduate of the City College of New York and the New York University School of Medicine. He received his postgraduate medical education at Massachusetts General Hospital, Harvard Medical School, and completed residency training in internal medicine, as well as general and vascular surgery. He is board-certified in internal medicine, general surgery, vascular surgery, and critical care surgery. He also holds a master’s degree in strategic studies (concentration in strategic leadership) from the United States Army War College. In 1992, he was awarded a research fellowship at the Association of American Medical Colleges Health Services Research Institute. -
The conversation continues as Dr. Stoller opens up about the evolution of his mindset as both a leader and physician over his extensive career. He reflects on the critical leadership lessons he's learned along the way and the mentors who shaped his perspective. Dr. Stoller also shares some of the most impactful leadership advice he's received over the years. Tune in to hear Dr. Stoller's unique insights on developing leadership capabilities as a physician and the mindsets required to empower and inspire future generations of medical professionals. Dr. Moores and Dr. Stoller share a thoughtful dialogue on the importance of continued growth and learning for leaders in medicine and education. Don't miss this intimate discussion with one of medicine's greatest contemporary leaders.
About James K. Stoller: Dr. Stoller is the Chair of the Education Institute at Cleveland Clinic. In this role, he oversees the function of the 11 centers within the Education Institute. From Continuing Medical Education and the Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine to Scientific Publications and the Center for Educational Resources, these centers cover a wide variety of educational communities. Dr. Stoller interfaces with academic partners and collaborates closely with all institute leaders.
Dr. Stoller also holds the Jean Wall Bennett Professorship in Emphysema Research at the Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine and is the Samson Global Leadership Academy Endowed Chair. He is also an Adjunct Professor of Organizational Behavior at the Weatherhead School of Management at Case Western Reserve University.
Previously, Dr. Stoller was the Associate Chief of Staff and Vice Chairman of Internal Medicine at the Cleveland Clinic.
Dr. Stoller graduated from Yale University School of Medicine. He completed his Internal Medicine residency at Peter Bent Brigham Hospital in Boston. He completed fellowships in pulmonary/critical care medicine at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston and Yale University School of Medicine. He also completed a fellowship in critical care medicine/anesthesiology at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. Dr. Stoller earned a master’s degree in organizational development and analysis from the Weatherhead School of Management of Case Western Reserve University. He was also a Robert Wood Johnson Clinical Scholar at Yale University School of Medicine.
Dr. Stoller is a diplomate in internal medicine and pulmonary disease of the American Board of Internal Medicine. He has authored more than 15 books, 72 chapters, 249 peer-reviewed reports and 119 abstracts. -
This week on All Physicians Lead, Dr. Leon Moores is joined by the illustrious Dr. James K. Stoller, Chairman of the Education Institute at Cleveland Clinic. With decades of experience as a leader in medicine, education, and organizational development, Dr. Stoller shares his wisdom from a storied career shaping the future of medical education. Tune in as Dr. Moores and Dr. Stoller discuss Dr. Stoller's groundbreaking research, prolific writing, and far-reaching accomplishments across clinical expertise, academic rigor, and organizational leadership. This inspiring episode features insights from one of the most influential physician-educators of our time.
About James K. Stoller: Dr. Stoller is the Chair of the Education Institute at Cleveland Clinic. In this role, he oversees the function of the 11 centers within the Education Institute. From Continuing Medical Education and the Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine to Scientific Publications and the Center for Educational Resources, these centers cover a wide variety of educational communities. Dr. Stoller interfaces with academic partners and collaborates closely with all institute leaders.
Dr. Stoller also holds the Jean Wall Bennett Professorship in Emphysema Research at the Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine and is the Samson Global Leadership Academy Endowed Chair. He is also an Adjunct Professor of Organizational Behavior at the Weatherhead School of Management at Case Western Reserve University.
Previously, Dr. Stoller was the Associate Chief of Staff and Vice Chairman of Internal Medicine at the Cleveland Clinic.
Dr. Stoller graduated from Yale University School of Medicine. He completed his Internal Medicine residency at Peter Bent Brigham Hospital in Boston. He completed fellowships in pulmonary/critical care medicine at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston and Yale University School of Medicine. He also completed a fellowship in critical care medicine/anesthesiology at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. Dr. Stoller earned a master’s degree in organizational development and analysis from the Weatherhead School of Management of Case Western Reserve University. He was also a Robert Wood Johnson Clinical Scholar at Yale University School of Medicine.
Dr. Stoller is a diplomate in internal medicine and pulmonary disease of the American Board of Internal Medicine. He has authored more than 15 books, 72 chapters, 249 peer-reviewed reports and 119 abstracts. -
After discussing his storied career, Dr. Blanck imparts an invaluable leadership insight that anyone can apply. Before diving into his experiences in combat zones, we'll hear about some of the unexpected challenges he faced during his academic journey. His candid perspectives provide lessons for aspiring medical professionals and leaders alike. Tune in to gain wisdom from this groundbreaking military physician turned masterful mentor. Dr. Blanck shares both clinical expertise and leadership acumen that continue to benefit the armed forces, the medical community, and society as a whole.
About Ronald Blanck: Dr. Blanck began his military career in 1968 as a medical officer and battalion surgeon in Vietnam. He retired 32 years later as a Lieutenant General and Surgeon General of the U.S. Army and commander of the U.S. Army Medical Command — with more than 46,000 military personnel and 26,000 civilian employees throughout the world.During his distinguished military career, Dr. Blanck also served as commander of Walter Reed Medical Center North Atlantic Region Medical Command, director of professional services, and chief of Medical Corps Affairs for the U.S. Army Surgeon General. Other assignments included assistant chief of the General Medicine Service in the Department of Medicine at Walter Reed, assistant dean of student affairs at the Uniformed Services University School of Medicine, and chief of the Department of Medicine at Brooke Army Medical Center.His academic credentials include teaching positions at Georgetown University, George Washington University, Howard University School of Medicine, The Uniformed Services University, the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio, and the University of North Texas Health Science Center.Dr. Blanck’s military honors include Distinguished Service Medals, the Defense Superior Service Medal, the Legion of Merit, the Bronze Star, and Meritorious Service and Army Commendation Medals.Dr. Blanck continues to be consulted as an advisor on bioterrorism issues and an expert in preparing the medical community to respond to mass casualty incidents or those involving weapons of mass destruction. In addition to his many speaking engagements and advisory positions, he now chaired task forces on bioterrorism for both the Texas Medical Association and the American Osteopathic Association. -
In the premiere episode of All Physicians Lead, Dr. Leon Moores is joined by distinguished guest Dr. Ronald Blanck. Dr. Blanck rose to become the 39th Surgeon General of the United States Army, the first D.O. ever appointed to this prominent position. Throughout his storied 32-year military career, Dr. Blanck provided compassionate care and strong leadership. Since retiring from active duty, he has continued to advise on critical issues like bioterrorism preparedness and response, lending his invaluable knowledge to the medical community. Dr. Blanck's voice remains vital, and Dr. Moores is honored to host this respected physician, dedicated military leader, and lifelong public servant. Tune in to hear their inspiring discussion!
About Ronald Blanck: Dr. Blanck began his military career in 1968 as a medical officer and battalion surgeon in Vietnam. He retired 32 years later as a Lieutenant General and Surgeon General of the U.S. Army and commander of the U.S. Army Medical Command — with more than 46,000 military personnel and 26,000 civilian employees throughout the world.During his distinguished military career, Dr. Blanck also served as commander of Walter Reed Medical Center North Atlantic Region Medical Command, director of professional services, and chief of Medical Corps Affairs for the U.S. Army Surgeon General. Other assignments included assistant chief of the General Medicine Service in the Department of Medicine at Walter Reed, assistant dean of student affairs at the Uniformed Services University School of Medicine, and chief of the Department of Medicine at Brooke Army Medical Center.His academic credentials include teaching positions at Georgetown University, George Washington University, Howard University School of Medicine, The Uniformed Services University, the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio, and the University of North Texas Health Science Center.Dr. Blanck’s military honors include Distinguished Service Medals, the Defense Superior Service Medal, the Legion of Merit, the Bronze Star, and Meritorious Service and Army Commendation Medals.Dr. Blanck continues to be consulted as an advisor on bioterrorism issues and an expert in preparing the medical community to respond to mass casualty incidents or those involving weapons of mass destruction. In addition to his many speaking engagements and advisory positions, he now chaired task forces on bioterrorism for both the Texas Medical Association and the American Osteopathic Association.
