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Welcome to the Weekly Rollup, where we cover this week in Crypto. We unpack the implications of the Genius Act's passage, which positions the U.S. to lead in digital assets and spurs optimism around stablecoins potentially hitting a $3.7 trillion valuation by 2030. Also: JP Morgan’s surprising entry into the stablecoin market and Coinbase’s launch of new products, including a Bitcoin cashback credit card.
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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES
0:00 Intro
2:55 Markets
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bitcoin
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/ethereum
8:00 ETFs
https://x.com/jseyff/status/1934591572710211587
https://x.com/cointelegraph/status/1933534615395815761
https://x.com/JSeyff/status/1933635898140192849
https://x.com/JSeyff/status/1935043249141322017
https://x.com/EricBalchunas/status/1932527239679095097
12:00 Macro
https://x.com/NickTimiraos/status/1935397119772217715
https://x.com/scottmelker/status/1935382005866189003
https://x.com/elerianm/status/1933505682625417521
https://www.ft.com/content/0d175cad-db7c-4dc2-83a8-90736f96f198
https://x.com/thomas_fahrer/status/1934056640476770678
https://x.com/treenewsfeed/status/1934589597394084071
https://x.com/erictrump/status/1934665029866881155
29:00 The GENIUS Act Passes the Senate
https://x.com/SenatorHagerty/status/1934942333859979279
https://x.com/SenatorHagerty/status/1935491670805754100
https://x.com/SecScottBessent/status/1935027160374210573
https://x.com/secscottbessent/status/1935404649718157691
https://polymarket.com/event/genius-act-signed-into-law-in-2025?tid=1750338903189
https://x.com/TFTC21/status/1935027661421822149
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1935371112403116518
https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/1935095696454984027
https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/1933583236778578274
https://x.com/pete_rizzo_/status/1933484989334659136
https://x.com/CryptosR_Us/status/1935475419286798505
38:30 JPMorgan Stablecoin JPMD
https://x.com/tier10k/status/1934684065875284187
https://x.com/base/status/1935055475252543823
43:00 INK Kraken Token
https://x.com/inkonchain/status/1934992073024823560
https://x.com/DefiIgnas/status/1935274751322435769
44:50 EigenLayer announces EigenCloud
https://x.com/ethereum/status/1935010523776430587
https://x.com/ViktorBunin/status/1934969360851857532
https://x.com/sreeramkannan/status/1935028483044032921
https://youtu.be/P2PGQIe9U6g?si=Q6ZZPy9KzyPQLBaA
47:43 Blockworks Token Transparency Framework
https://x.com/Blockworks_/status/1935321626788380714
50:10 Coinbase Product Launches
https://x.com/brian_armstrong/status/1933290398799065459
https://x.com/tier10k/status/1933238313567080716
https://x.com/tier10k/status/1933238313567080716
https://x.com/CoinbaseBiz/status/1933228168783278110
https://x.com/vivek4real_/status/1933230638842232989?s=46
https://blog.base.dev/commerce-payments-protocol
https://www.reuters.com/business/coinbase-seeking-us-sec-approval-offer-blockchain-based-stocks-2025-06-17/
https://x.com/luke_metro/status/1934061707158081538
https://x.com/KafiSq8/status/1934026011898683724
58:30 Roman Storm’s Legal Defense
https://x.com/ethereumfndn/status/1933564840112435567
https://x.com/ethereumfndn/status/1894704611606385012
https://x.com/rstormsf/status/1933502107577168047
59:25 Stablecoin Summer vs The Plot
https://x.com/mrjasonchoi/status/1935555875013538229
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Today, we discuss the recently passed Genius Bill with Senator Bill Hagerty, a key architect behind the legislation aimed at stabilizing the U.S. stablecoin market. Following a significant bipartisan Senate vote of 68-30, Sen. Hagerty shares insights on the evolving congressional perception of cryptocurrency, moving from skepticism to support. The bill seeks to foster a regulatory environment that encourages innovation while protecting users and maintaining America’s leadership in financial technology. The episode also highlights the potential economic benefits of a strong stablecoin framework and addresses concerns regarding Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs).
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Introduction to the Genius Bill
5:43 Welcoming Senator Bill Haggerty
8:55 Next Steps for the Bill
11:16 Why America Needs Stablecoin Law
14:07 Fostering a Domestic Stablecoin Economy
15:23 Addressing Detractors of the Bill
18:06 Understanding Stablecoins vs CBDCs
20:27 Who Can Issue Stablecoins?
21:01 Path for Offshore Issuers
23:54 Surveillance Concerns with Stablecoins
26:10 Addressing the Trump Loophole
27:34 The Bipartisan Nature of Crypto
28:52 Senator Haggerty's Evolution on Crypto
32:17 Establishing a Clear Regulatory Framework
34:51 Future Steps for the Crypto Industry
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RESOURCES
Sen. Bill Hagerty: https://x.com/SenatorHagerty
The GENIUS Act: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/394/text
Sec. Bessent’s Tweet: https://x.com/SecScottBessent/status/1935027160374210573
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In this episode, Jeremie and Edouard Harris, co-founders of Gladstone AI and national security advisors, join us to break down the real score in the U.S.–China AI race.
We unpack what it actually means to “win” in AI: from cutting-edge model development and compute infrastructure to data center vulnerabilities, state-sponsored espionage, and the rise of robotic warfare. The Harris brothers explain why energy is the hidden battleground, how supply chains have become strategic liabilities, and why export controls alone won’t save us.
This is not just a geopolitical showdown - it’s a race for superintelligence, and the clock is ticking.
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0:00 Intro
1:05 AI race: who's ahead?
4:41 Framing AI as an arms race
12:58 Gov't awareness of AI conflict
20:38 AI reports feel like sci-fi
24:44 China vs US: model race
29:11 Shift to inference-time compute
31:19 China’s software vs US hardware
34:28 Open vs closed source politics
38:56 China’s energy dominance
43:32 America’s electric grid lag
47:55 Supply chain vulnerabilities
56:30 US chipmaking onshoring
1:01:08 U.S. lead in chips
1:04:00 DUV vs EUV bottlenecks
1:08:26 Manufacturing gap in robotics
1:11:53 Fear vs optimism in culture
1:17:26 Coordination vs dynamism
1:22:10 Bot-driven opinion warfare
1:25:58 China pushing degrowth narratives?
1:29:05 National security recommendations
1:33:36 Co-op or conflict endgame?
1:37:27 Closing
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RESOURCES
Jeremie Harris
https://x.com/jeremiecharris
Edouard Harris
https://x.com/harris_edouard
America’s Superintelligence Project
https://superintelligence.gladstone.ai/
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EigenLayer is back with a major announcement: EigenCloud.
Sreeram Kannan and JT Rose unveil the first crypto-native cloud platform—a verifiable, programmable environment for building applications beyond the limits of traditional blockchains. We explore how EigenCloud packages modules like EigenDA, EigenVerify, and EigenCompute into a developer-friendly product that brings cloud-scale computation and crypto-grade trust guarantees together.
From meme coins and AI agents to fully sovereign applications, we dig into what makes this launch a pivotal step for crypto infrastructure and why it might just reignite Ethereum’s original ambitions.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
0:14 Introducing EigenCloud
12:39 Solving Programmability Bottlenecks
32:45 Apps EigenCloud Unlocks
54:00 Promoting EigenCloud
58:39 Total Addressable Market
1:02:53 Developer Action Items
1:06:19 Closing & Disclaimers
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RESOURCES
EigenCloud Announcement
https://x.com/eigenlayer/status/1934961135515828501
EigenCloud
https://eigencloud.xyz/
Sreeram Kannan
https://x.com/sreeramkannan
JT Rose
https://x.com/jt_rose
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In this deeply personal episode, Sahil Bloom joins Ryan Sean Adams to explore what it truly means to be wealthy and why so many high achievers get it wrong. After hitting burnout, Ryan stepped away from the grind to reassess his definition of success. What he found was a framework that reframed his entire life: the Five Types of Wealth.
Together, they unpack why net worth alone is a poor scoreboard, how to avoid the trap of “never enough,” and what it means to build time, social, mental, physical, and financial wealth in harmony. This conversation is both a blueprint and a reboot, for anyone chasing more, and wondering why it still doesn’t feel like enough.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
3:22 Measuring Wealth
6:10 Beyond Net Worth
13:29 Burnout Moment
15:47 The Cost of Misaligned Effort
25:47 The Five Types of Wealth
27:47 Wealth Isn’t Swappable
34:05 Freedom Starts With Defining “Enough”
43:09 The “Enough” Excuse
47:31 Why We Feel Time-Starved
50:09 Digital Distractions and Overcommitment
55:46 The Two-List Exercise
57:38 The Morning ‘Boot Up’ Sequence
1:03:30 Reinvesting in Your Closest People
1:10:19 Too Busy to Connect
1:12:23 The Mental Wealth
1:14:11 The Life Razor
1:18:26 The Physical Wealth
1:24:40 Staying on Plan
1:25:56 Grounded Success
1:27:56 High Agency People
1:29:03 Closing
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RESOURCES
Sahil
https://x.com/SahilBloom
Sahil’s Blog
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The 5 Types of Wealth
https://www.the5typesofwealth.com/
RSA Reboot
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1915115437505049055
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This week, Ryan and David unpack Circle’s stunning IPO debut, soaring to a $25B market cap and triggering Wall Street’s stablecoin frenzy. They break down the landmark Genius Act vote, bringing unprecedented regulatory clarity to stablecoins, and dive into Stripe’s latest crypto bet, acquiring wallet innovator Privy. Polymarket goes mainstream in an official integration with Twitter, while SEC Chair Paul Atkins embraces DeFi as fundamentally American. Plus, Gemini quietly files for IPO, Plasma’s billion-dollar Tether chain ignites, and Trump unexpectedly endorses crypto at Coinbase.
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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES
0:00 Intro
3:59 Markets
https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1932526577897595233
https://x.com/rovercrc/status/1930951805191778369
https://x.com/hosseeb/status/1931457548760334723
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1932695486684950962
https://x.com/DavidShapiro98/status/1932696393937785058
https://x.com/blknoiz06/status/1932072994731647435
https://x.com/nypost/status/1933109968510550430
15:02 US Senate is about to pass the GENIUS Act
https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/1932988965037978084
https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/1932868994165354703
https://x.com/SenatorBennet/status/1932864987208249597
https://x.com/SenWarren/status/1932858887482507604
https://www.banking.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/20250611_warren_blumenthal_letter_to_meta_re_stablecoin.pdf
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1932877097623588922
27:35 Did Circle kickoff Stablecoin Summer?
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=NYSE%3ACRCL
https://x.com/MikeIppolito_/status/1932070226939810164
https://x.com/TaikiMaeda2/status/1929538665560031641
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1932424510738673711
https://x.com/PlasmaFDN/status/1932072359080415702
https://www.barrons.com/articles/circle-ipo-crypto-retail-frenzy-06659b30?
https://x.com/perkinscr97/status/1931032964349276313
39:54 Stripe acquired Privy
https://x.com/privy_io/status/1932816495719166167
https://x.com/patrickc/status/1932817864450584939
42:41 Polymarket became official prediction market of X!
https://x.com/xai/status/1932481207180406923
https://x.com/shayne_coplan/status/1931008087688614155
44:50 Morpho Labs will be soon fully owned by MORPHO token holders
https://x.com/PaulFrambot/status/1930971485142761909
https://youtu.be/IJN_pgkKPjA?si=963i8GioANnNoVAR
https://x.com/MorphoLabs/status/1933162070465208423
49:17 Paul Atkins defended DEFI as the foundation American values
https://x.com/SECGov/status/1932137708068970924
https://x.com/SECGov/status/1932137708068970924
53:15 World Liberty Financial will acquire TRUMP for its treasury
https://x.com/EricTrump/status/1931089248926490772
https://x.com/coinbase/status/1932836009034617183
54:38 Closing & Disclaimers
55:13 Moment of Zen
https://x.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1933172630099837134
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Etherealize is back with a bold new thesis: ETH is digital oil. In this episode, Vivek and Danny Ryan unpack their freshly released report, The Bull Case for ETH, which positions ether as the next great store of value—and a future global reserve asset for the digital economy.
We explore ETH’s misunderstood monetary design, its strategic role for institutions, and why Wall Street is waking up to Ethereum not just as a network, but as an investable asset. This is the case for ETH as the asymmetric opportunity of this generation.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
0:52 The Bull Case for ETH
3:18 Why ETH?
6:35 Pitching to Wall Street
10:59 ETH is Digital Oil
21:29 ETH’s Monetary Policy
37:37 Why Hold ETH?
43:42 ETH/BTC Ratio
47:20 ETH is a Store of Value
53:55 Ethereum’s Scaling Path
1:03:08 Ethereum’s Renaissance
1:07:06 Ethereum Competitors
1:10:14 The Report
1:12:29 Vivek in Congress
1:13:33 Closing & Disclaimers
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RESOURCES
The Bull Case for ETH Report
http://ethdigitaloil.com/
VIvek Raman
https://x.com/VivekVentures
Danny Ryan
https://x.com/dannyryan
Etherealize
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Crypto markets are buzzing and institutional appetite is peaking. With Circle’s IPO wildly oversubscribed and a new wave of companies racing to go public, we unpack what this means for the industry.
Jon and Bread join us to break down the hype around crypto IPOs, why TradFi wants stablecoin exposure, and what it signals for projects like Solana, Ethereum, and Hyperliquid. We also debate value accrual, ETH vs BTC narratives, and whether apps or platforms will dominate the next phase of crypto. This is the IPO Era of crypto—let's dissect the winners and the delusions.
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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES
0:00 Intro
0:32 Vibe Check
https://x.com/intern/status/1932238240880222270
https://x.com/blknoiz06/status/1932072994731647435
10:13 Crypto’s IPO Era
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=NYSE%3ACRCL
https://x.com/HadickM/status/1931323504525279522
18:11 Ethereum Valuation Debate
https://x.com/DeeZe/status/1932475461348835800
29:29 Hype vs SOL vs PUMP
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=KUCOIN%3AHYPEUSDT
40:44 Hyperliquid vs Centralized Exchanges
https://dune.com/uwusanauwu/perps
50:35 PumpFun’s Token Sale
58:16 Closing & Disclaimers
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Jon Charbonneau and Ryan Berckmans join Bankless to debate Ethereum’s future: is ETH undervalued, or has the market already spoken?
We unpack whether Ethereum can rival Bitcoin as a store of value, if L2s will drive real value back to ETH, and whether Solana’s momentum signals deeper trouble for Ethereum. Jon argues ETH has lost its lead and may never reclaim it. Ryan contends Ethereum’s neutrality and institutional traction make it the inevitable hub for the onchain economy.
This is the definitive conversation on where ETH stands—and where it’s heading.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
0:32 Is ETH special?
32:55 How ETH should be valued
51:42 ETH over or undervalued?
1:09:59 Being wrong on ETH
1:13:00 Closing & Disclaimers
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Ryan Berckmans
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Jon Charbonneau
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Joe Lubin returns to Bankless to break down his latest bold move—launching SBET, a publicly traded vehicle designed to accumulate and deploy Ether as a strategic treasury asset.
We unpack whether Lubin is stepping into the Michael Saylor role for Ethereum, how SBET might outperform Bitcoin-backed models, and why ETH is poised for a monetary renaissance. From regulatory wins to Ethereum’s evolving narrative on Wall Street, this episode explores how ETH can become a multi-trillion-dollar asset and a dominant store of value in the next economic supercycle.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
0:38 Getting Sued by The SEC
7:55 $SBET
16:32 The Michael Saylor of ETH
23:25 $SBET (ETH) vs $MSTR (BTC)
27:16 Valuing ETH
28:30 Wall Street Narratives
30:52 ETH’s Performance
36:53 ETH as Collateral
40:07 Onboarding Others
46:52 ETH as SoV
49:18 What ETH Needs
50:52 Joining Forces
53:08 ETH’s Sentiment Shift
56:53 Genius Act
58:44 Closing & Disclaimers
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Joe Lubin
https://x.com/ethereumJoseph
SharpLink Gaming ($SBET)
https://www.sharplink.com/
Consensys
https://consensys.io/
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This week, Ryan and David unpack Circle’s explosive $20B IPO—crypto’s second biggest—and what it signals about Wall Street’s newfound love for stablecoins. They break down the confusing Trump wallet drama, where even Trump’s own sons deny involvement, and explore why Pump.fun’s rumored $4B token raise has the industry split. Ethereum enters “wartime mode” as the Foundation lays off staff and spins up a lean new R&D force called Protocol. Plus, Ray Dalio says “a bit of Bitcoin,” Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill adds $2.4T to the deficit, and SBF is headed to Netflix.
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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES
0:00 Intro
0:41 Circle IPO
https://x.com/circle/status/1930624298760143333
https://www.theblock.co/post/356602/circle-seeks-7-2-billion-valuation-in-upsized-ipo
https://x.com/ruiixyz/status/1930386144216396176
https://x.com/EconomyApp/status/1930657679418241238
https://x.com/jerallaire/status/1930595978215637360
https://x.com/EffortCapital/status/1930621939279679542
9:34 Markets
12:23 Trump BBB
https://x.com/alifarhat79/status/1930265604105150647
https://x.com/alifarhat79/status/1930256218108383338
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1930452348234805665
https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1930659468536144062
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/text
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1929954109689606359
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1929993372586152364
23:53 Pump.fun is getting ready for a token
https://blockworks.co/news/pumpdotfun-token-sale
https://x.com/nextfckingthing/status/1929871539018576257
https://dune.com/tiagocryptonary/pump-fun-analytics
https://x.com/lmrankhan/status/1928163796691845133
https://x.com/VannaCharmer/status/1930318687333986639
32:00 Ethereum Foundation announced another big change!
https://x.com/TimBeiko/status/1929620145984753843
https://x.com/econoar/status/1930361688047661495
https://blog.ethereum.org/2025/06/04/ef-treasury-policy
https://x.com/centauridoteth/status/1929896351447372191
https://x.com/ViktorBunin/status/1929945974316662804
44:43 Strategy found a new way how to raise more money for Bitcoin
https://x.com/saylor/status/1929635975367475403
https://x.com/DylanLeClair_/status/1929661889963086170
49:01 Trump team launched a crypto wallet - or did they?
https://x.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1929943367892283828
https://x.com/EricTrump/status/1929966635445576103
https://x.com/0xLeoInRio/status/1929955682037731340
https://x.com/molly0xFFF/status/1930351820288741708
https://x.com/Ronxyz00/status/1929884476328276036
https://x.com/EricBalchunas/status/1930015280094429381
57:50 SBF is heading to Netflix!
https://x.com/netflix/status/1928153876475097117
1:00:26 Bankless is looking for talent!
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1:01:38 Closing & Disclaimer
1:02:01 Moment of Zen
https://x.com/l3olanza/status/1930320045139173881
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Two visions for the future of AI clash in this debate between Daniel Kokotajlo and Arvind Narayanan.
Is AI a revolutionary new species destined for runaway superintelligence, or just another step in humanity’s technological evolution—like electricity or the internet?
Daniel, a former OpenAI researcher and author of AI 2027, argues for a fast-approaching intelligence explosion. Arvind, a Princeton professor and co-author of AI Snake Oil, contends that AI is powerful but ultimately controllable and slow to reshape society. Moderated by Ryan and David, this conversation dives into the crux of capability vs. power, economic transformation, and the future of democratic agency in an AI-driven world.
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0:00 Intro
4:44 Is AI Normal Tech?
30:20 Capability & Power
44:52 Manageable or Existential?
52:36 AGI Milestone
1:00:31 AI by 2030
1:12:07 Making Sense
1:16:08 Closing & Disclaimers
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RESOURCES
Daniel Kokotajlo
https://x.com/dkokotajlo
Arvind Narayanan
https://x.com/random_walker
Two Paths For AI - Daniel
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/open-questions/two-paths-for-ai
AI as Normal Technology - Arvind
https://knightcolumbia.org/content/ai-as-normal-technology
AI 2027 - Daniel
https://ai-2027.com/
AI Snake Oil - Arvind
https://www.aisnakeoil.com/
https://www.amazon.com/Snake-Oil-Artificial-Intelligence-Difference/dp/069124913X
Pause AI
https://pauseai.info/pdoom
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Austin Adams, founder of Whetstone and creator of Doppler, joins to discuss the next evolution in token launches.
We explore why the world needs more tokens—not fewer—and how Doppler enables creators, apps, and DAOs to build highly customized launchpads using modular tooling. We cover token market design, dynamic bonding curves to prevent sniping, and how this infrastructure could unlock more meaningful, value-connected tokens—from meme coins with DAOs to public market IPOs on-chain.
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0:00 Intro
4:08 Excess Tokens And Pushbacks
10:02 Doppler Explained
17:05 The Solution
25:37 Conserving Liquidity
32:58 Maximizing IPOs Using Doppler
42:32 Token to Real Value
50:31 Closing & Disclaimers
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Austin Adams
https://x.com/AustinAdams10
Whetstone Research
https://x.com/whetstonedotcc
Doppler
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Mike Novogratz returns to Bankless to unpack Bitcoin’s surge to new all-time highs and what it means in a world grappling with fiscal uncertainty.
We dive into the unfolding bond market crisis, why the Genius Act marks a new chapter for stablecoins, the tokenization of traditional finance, and how Galaxy is uniquely positioned at the crossroads of crypto and AI. This is a front-row seat to the changing macro tides and crypto’s place in the new financial order.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
0:18 Bitcoin Hitting All-Time High
1:57 Trump’s Tariffs' Effect on Bitcoin
5:56 Liz Truss Moment 2.0?
7:33 US Liz Truss’s Effect
8:49 Bitcoin, Gold, and the US Dollar
12:11 BTC as a New World Asset
15:29 Treasuries in Decline
18:05 Galaxy Going Public
21:26 The Genius Act
24:32 Anti-Crypto Army Gone?
27:03 US Consumer Crypto Market
31:22 Tokenizing Galaxy Assets on ETH
34:08 A Roadmap From SEC in the Future?
36:53 Year of Crypto IPOs?
38:30 TradFi Fades, Crypto Rises
39:46 The Terra Luna Case
44:05 Future of Galaxy and Crypto
50:48 Building and Scaling Data Centers
55:18 Closing & Disclaimers
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Mike Novogratz
https://x.com/novogratz
Galaxy Digital
https://www.galaxy.com/
Tokenization & RWAs (Galaxy Report)
https://www.galaxy.com/research/insights/tokenization-and-the-future-of-finance/
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This week, Ryan and David break down the political storm brewing around crypto. From JD Vance’s fiery speech at Bitcoin 2025 to the Trump meme coin dinner that triggered bipartisan backlash. They dive into Ethereum’s biggest capital inflow yet, as a public company raises $425 million to buy and stake ETH, drawing comparisons to MicroStrategy. They also cover the court ruling that halted Trump-era tariffs, the Circle IPO finally moving forward, and early signs of a “Stablecoin Summer” as banks eye their own dollar-backed coins. Plus, the growing risks of copycat crypto acquisition vehicles, and why some say the next GBTC-style blowup could already be forming.
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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES
0:00 Intro
0:37 JD Vance Bitcoin Conference 2025
https://x.com/cointelegraph/status/1927766577845305579
2:59 Crypto Prices
5:13 US court blocks most Trump tariffs, says president exceeded his authority
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/us-court-blocks-trumps-liberation-231041016.html
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114588777076099501
12:29 The microstrategy of ETH!
https://cointelegraph.com/news/sharplink-ethereum-treasury-joseph-lubin-board-chair
https://x.com/econoar/status/1927380671334404511
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1927344185595633687
https://x.com/hanni_abu/status/1927408350527922585
18:39 Gamestop & Trump Media Buying Bitcoin & SolSolStrategy
https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1927680683847119289
https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1927352308859330651
https://x.com/SolanaFloor/status/1927408166922293535
https://x.com/mikeippolito_/status/1927450775870931015
25:26 Trump Dinner
https://x.com/BillSun_AI/status/1925728406974443607/video/1
https://x.com/Mollyploofkins/status/1926098775233241537
https://x.com/justinsuntron/status/192576411185 9597602
https://x.com/USHouseFSC/status/1925625286818689066
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-republicans-raise-red-flags-trumps-private-dinner-meme-coin-hol-rcna204293
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-22/protesters-yell-shame-at-guests-of-trump-s-memecoin-dinner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNJD-vKtrPc
36:22 The Annual Bitcoin (Stablecoin) Conference Week
https://x.com/UnderCoercion/status/1927885141059260768
https://x.com/TheBitcoinConf/status/1927914310212407481
https://x.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1926324131923976224
https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/1927763954178150848
https://x.com/TPostMillennial/status/1927767083217039818
https://x.com/pete_rizzo_/status/1927509752931635256
https://x.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1927479261780127747
https://x.com/DogCandles/status/1927879603055415557
44:08 Echo announced Sonar
https://x.com/echodotxyz/status/1927422067801997336
46:18 Circle filed for an IPO on the NYSE
https://x.com/CoinDesk/status/1927326167033356458
48:37 Some of the biggest US banks are about to launch joined stablecoin
https://www.wsj.com/finance/banking/crypto-stablecoin-big-banks-a841059e
https://x.com/CryptoHayes/status/1925739441634652654
https://x.com/SecScottBessent/status/1925967578540781743
51:55 Closing & Disclaimers
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Welcome to Limitless. Today we’re joined by Luke Drago and Rudolf, authors of the powerful essay series "The Intelligence Curse."
Together, we explore a future where artificial general intelligence (AGI) threatens to upend the economic and social contracts that underpin modern civilization. Will AI empower us or make us obsolete?
We unpack how labor-replacing AI could dismantle the very incentives that once gave rise to liberal democracies, social mobility, and human-centered innovation—and what it might take to build a future worth living in.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 What is the Intelligence Curse
4:29 Resource Curse
8:20 Pyramid Replacement
18:19 Institutional Pushback
21:25 Capital, AGI & Human Ambition
32:00 Liberalism Falls Apart?
36:30 Powerful Actors
41:15 Rentier States
46:19 Human Labor in a AGI World
52:46 Nation States
57:37 Shaping the Social Contract
1:06:23 AI Snake Oil?
1:07:41 Balance of Power
1:08:51 Breaking the Intelligence Curse
1:16:45 Vitalik’s Defensive Accelerationism
1:18:16 Diffusion
1:19:58 Open-Source AI
1:22:06 Democratization
1:24:06 Who Wins?
1:26:43 Action Items
1:29:17 The Positive Scenario
1:30:21 Closing
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RESOURCES
Luke Drago
https://x.com/luke_drago_
Rudolf Laine
https://x.com/LRudL_
Time Op-ed
https://time.com/7289692/when-ai-replaces-workers/
Intelligence Curse
https://intelligence-curse.ai/
Contact Form
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSft2iBV9z1AYsM3TcDnh8z3juc2k4yD0TQTZ91oy37S-KlSSQ/viewform
AI Snake Oil - Arvind Narayanan
https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691249131/ai-snake-oil
Vitalik’s Defensive Accelerationism
https://vitalik.eth.limo/general/2023/11/27/techno_optimism.html
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Is altseason finally here or just getting started?
Michael Nadeau of the DeFi Report joins Ryan to break down the data behind a potential crypto rotation. We cover why ETH and select alts may be poised to outperform, how macro conditions are fueling risk-on sentiment, and why fundamentals—like protocol cash flows and MEV—matter more than ever. Michael also shares his current portfolio and reveals what he’s buying right now. If you’re positioning for what’s next, this is your rotation signal.
Michael Nadeau & The DeFi Report:
https://x.com/JustDeauIt
https://thedefireport.io/research/altseason-melt-up
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1g2H1VaAKHWB5trl1tRHRYc68lIqZ8tWnzcLnkasAVYk/edit?usp=sharing
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0:00 Intro
0:23 Vince McMahon Meme
https://x.com/QuintenFrancois/status/1925543793371054122
1:10 DeFi Report #1 & Crypto Fundamentals
7:07 Mike’s Trading Time Horizon
9:13 Alt-Season Melt-up?
15:43 Macro Catalysts
25:57 2021-2022 Cycle vs. Today
29:03 Bitcoin & ETH Moving Average Chart
32:46 Different Types of Trading/TA Fundamentals
36:36 Long-Term Holder Supply Chart
43:09 MVRV Z-Score
48:39 ETH/BTC Ratio & Altcoin Season?
53:02 Mike’s Portfolio
1:00:40 When to Sell
1:02:33 How Durable is Solana’s MEV Infra
1:04:59 Closing & Disclaimers
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How should we value L1 tokens in crypto?
Today’s guest, Jonah Weinstein of Skycatcher, introduces RSOV—“Realized Store of Value”—a new metric designed to fundamentally rethink how we evaluate Layer 1 assets like ETH, SOL, and BTC. In this episode, we explore why traditional models like DCF and REV fall short for monetary assets, how RSOV works, and why it may be a better way to understand crypto’s total addressable market. Tune in for a fresh perspective that could change how you analyze L1s forever.
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0:00 Intro
0:23 How to Value L1 Tokens
7:18 REV
20:32 L1 Tokens are Money
27:11 Payments vs SoV Use Case
36:13 TAM for Digital Money
41:45 BTC: Special Snowflake?
45:31 RSOV
1:03:17 REV vs RSOV
1:12:07 RSOV Valuations
1:18:27 RSOV Drivers
1:34:10 Future of RSOV
1:36:43 Skycatcher
1:38:55 Opportunities to Watch
1:40:46 Closing & Disclaimers
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RESOURCES
Jonah Weinstein
https://x.com/_Jonahw
RSOV Deck
https://docsend.com/view/mb2v6k3yr38gpfwm
RSOV Dune Dashboard
https://dune.com/sc_research/rsov
RSOV Template Financial Model
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IH0IX0yal7raqhO8SWzcVGK-TAH-b7avRlZ3pxR0krc/edit?usp=sharing
Skycatcher
https://skycatcher.xyz/
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This week, Ryan and David unpack Bitcoin’s explosive run to $111K and the macro chaos driving it—specifically, the U.S. Treasury’s failed bond auction and what it signals for the dollar. They break down the Senate’s landmark stablecoin bill (and Elizabeth Warren’s meltdown), Ethereum’s ZK miracle that could 100x Layer 1 throughput, and Texas launching its own state Bitcoin reserve. Plus, why Stanley Druckenmiller’s portfolio strategy might justify going all-in on crypto—and whether alt season is finally on the horizon.
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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES
0:00 Intro
0:31 Stanley Druckenmiller
https://x.com/mrexits/status/1925354907382816880
3:40 Markets
https://x.com/glassnode/status/1925225568817099260
https://x.com/btc_archive/status/1925468871449866309
https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1925401414659867102
https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/1924676563582267643
https://x.com/CryptoRank_io/status/1923875599275143300
https://x.com/cburniske/status/1925482199727710648
https://www.reuters.com/business/tepid-demand-us-treasury-auction-shows-investor-jitters-about-tax-bill-deficit-2025-05-21/
20:42 U.S. About to Pass a Landmark Stablecoin Bill?
https://x.com/SenatorHagerty/status/1924933844001521787
https://x.com/eleanorterrett/status/1924504745689153812
https://x.com/WayneVaughan/status/1924660740847222832
https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/1925247754969797007
https://x.com/cburniske/status/1924705825723187343
https://x.com/CampbellJAustin/status/1925170860140249445
33:48 ETHEREUM IS SAVED. Bet it all on zk! Real-time proving is coming to Ethereum!
https://x.com/drakefjustin/status/1924929057676001466
https://x.com/VitalikButerin/status/1925050155922862526
https://x.com/pumatheuma/status/1925231968117277066
https://x.com/SuccinctLabs/status/1924523978703740963
45:26 Solana’s next leap: the proposed “Alpenglow” consensus
https://x.com/Austin_Federa/status/1924498049482559677
https://www.anza.xyz/
https://x.com/gttyson/status/1924519192101061035
47:57 FIGHT FOR RWAS
https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1925577606163829203
https://blog.kraken.com/news/tokenized-equities-coming-soon
48:58 BIG Sui Dex hacked
https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/1925509145366503486
https://x.com/SuiNetwork/status/1925572334054002774
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/sui
52:13 SKY became the sole governance token of the Sky
https://x.com/SkyEcosystem/status/1924515700564988354
https://upgrademkrtosky.com
53:54 Bitcoin community might rename sats to bitcoins
https://x.com/jack/status/1924121538485178658
57:16 Texas Strategic Bitcoin Reserve bill officially passed - TEXAS loves crypto
https://x.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1925239389141049353
https://bitcoinlaws.io/tx
58:24 Galaxy was listed on Nasdaq - $7 billion
https://x.com/galaxyhq/status/1923411961754108177
59:11 Hester Peirce’s “New Paradigm” speech (SEC Speaks, 19 May 2025)
https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/speeches-statements/peirce-remarks-sec-speaks-051925
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1924539029346828608
-https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2025/05/20/sec-charges-unicoin-top-executives-with-100m-massive-securities-fraud
1:01:39 DOJ is investigating Coinbase data breach & Circle Rumors?
https://cointelegraph.com/news/justice-department-coinbase-data-breach
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2025/05/20/circle-has-explored-potential-5b-sale-to-coinbase-or-ripple-instead-of-ipo-report
1:04:00 Closing & Disclaimers
1:04:26 Moment of Zen
https://x.com/mrexits/status/1925354907382816880
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In this episode of the Bankless Podcast, hosts discuss Real Economic Value (REV). Triggered by Jon's exploration of how ETH and SOL prices correlate with REV, the team delves into REV's role as a value capture metric and demand signal for blockchain networks. We evaluate the implications for network valuations, debate the sustainability of relying on REV, and analyze competitive dynamics between Ethereum and Solana. The conversation concludes with musings on crypto investment risks and the evolving identity of digital currencies in relation to app utility.
Jon Charbonneau: https://x.com/jon_charb
Bread: https://x.com/0xBreadguy
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 REV
https://x.com/jon_charb/status/1923739890115543264
https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1924835154700234866
17:56 Stablecoins vs Native Currencies
28:38 Tribalism
https://x.com/post_polar_/status/1924458711940055246
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1924202146117153172
39:30 The Trenches
https://dune.com/beincrypto/solana-launchpads
49:14 Pump . Fun
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