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Nithin and Jeremy tackle another 1974 Hatonn session two days following the one they analyzed last episode, this one extending the Confederation's concepts of love, light, and other primal distortions into the area of desire and service. This begins with a discussion about the genealogy of desire, its thread connecting more distorted versions of the desire to more pure versions. Desire achieves its goal ultimately through service, the dynamic projection of the truth of oneness into the limited, novel details of a moment in the illusion. Therefore, serving involves the ability to look through the illusion, recognizing deeper layers of our desires and using the illusion to skillfully address our service to those on levels of calling they may not even understand themselves. This means we cannot arrive at our choices of how to serve solely through intellectual thinking; this ability to serve other selves on deeper levels starts with better self-knowledge and a more intuitional approach exercised in meditation. Jeremy introduces a couple more sessions from the 1970s that reinforce this concept of love's current through the illusion via desire as well as the mysterious, creative, inspirational nature of true service.
Show NotesHatonn on desire and service (February 13, 1974)Ra on children’s responsibility (Session 18, Question 7)Monka on mirroring within and without (February 24, 2024)Oorkas on the illusion melting away (September 21, 2024)Luke on Jesus's prayer in solitude (Luke 5:16)Hatonn on seeking and progress (April 22, 1974)Hatonn on the difficulties of service (April 30, 1974)Hatonn on the readiness to serve (February 15, 1976)
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After a long break, Nithin and Jeremy return to discuss a 1974 Hatonn session that presages the Ra contact revelations in so many ways. In the context of the long lineage of Confederation channeling, they discuss what they mean by love and light, how they interact and relate to the first distortion, free will. This leads them to address thoughts on the nature of manifestation and the thread connecting it back to the Creator through a variety of successive distortions, a task that doesn't quite yield to the intellect. Evolution then tracks through time the process of this thread being traced back to unity, as we learn how to truly become self-conscious enough to become a participant in the Creator's evolutionary project.
Show NotesHatonn on love and light (February 11, 1974)How the Heart Cries Out (First Distortion Press)Ra on negative information (Session 26, Question 36)Ra on limitless light (Session 78, Question 9)Q’uo on the second mind, the heart (March 3, 1991)Ra on the steps of light at harvest (Session 51, Question 1)Pure motion in Larsonian physics (lrcphysics.com)Ra on second density harvest (Session 19, Question 2)Ra on children's responsibility (Session 18, Question 7)
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Nithin and Jeremy welcome "Linus," an anonymous Other Selves Working Group member, to the show to help them discuss Ra's concept of contemplation. Distinguishing it from meditation and prayer, they examine these three forms of inner work, observing how contemplation addresses the attention to one's conscious mind in a way congruent to meditation's attention to the deep mind. Reflecting on their own experiences with contemplation, the trio discuss how contemplation relates to other aspects of the seeker's life, especially its relationship with inward inquiry, catalysis, and growth.
Show NotesRa on meditation, contemplation, visualization, and prayer (Session 49, Question 8)Ra on daydreaming (Session 16, Question 54](https://www.lawofone.info/s/16#54))Ra on contemplation stimulated by warfare (Session 65, Question 7)Cunningham's Law (Wikipedia)Ra's balancing technique example (Session 46, Question 9)Subscribe to the Other Selves Working Group's newsletter, Working Notes, for updates on the fruits of our gathering in June as well as the Richmond Meditation Circle's forthcoming book, How the Heart Cries Out.
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Jeremy is once more joined by Steve Tyman to continue their discussion of the mind and body cycles of the tarot images and their relation to the archetypal mind. They begin with a recapitulation of the idea behind concept complexes with an emphasis on the veil's effect on the operation of the significator. This leads to discussion of the liminal station of transformation and the summarizing/integrating station of the great way, where one can see the reflection of the mind in the body and the delicate resonances of the logoic plan in the archetypal mind. Steve and Jeremy tie back the polarity introduced by the veil between the conscious and unconscious minds which features prominently in understanding the character of transformation and the great way. This sets the stage for tackling the spirit cycle, which we shall address in a future episode in light of the relationships articulated up to this point between the seven stations and the two cycles.
Show NotesA Deep Dive Into the Archetypes, Part 1 (Episode 55)A Egyptian Tarot Imagery tool online (https://thirddensity.com/tarot/)Ra on the complexification of the significator (Session 79, Question 42)Ra on the shadows of archetypes in "earlier" octaves (Session 79, Questions 29-30)Q'uo on the latent but unarticulated negativity in past octaves (June 18, 2023)Ra on the Transformation of Mind (Session 99, Question 8)Ra on the initiate releasing distortions (Session 57, Question 14)Ra on the Transformation of Body (Session 81, Question 13)Ra on the abandonment of the unchosen polarity (Session 100, Question 6)Q'uo on the spiralling of cyclical development (August 7, 2007)Ra on transformation or experience stations in other archetypal minds (Session 91, Question 17) Note: I erroneously remembered Ra saying that in earlier octaves, one archetypal system featured either a transformation station or a great way station, but not both. Steve mistakenly agreed with me. In fact, the example Ra described involved one system including catalyst and experience and the other including catalyst and transformation. The error somewhat undermines our brief discussion of the connection between the transformation and great way stations, but not entirely.Ra on the athanor metaphor in the Great Way of Body (Session 81, Question 14)Ra on the veil in the Great Way of Mind tarot image (Session 103, Question 11)Ra on the harnessing of the chariot in the Great Way of Mind tarot image ( -
Nithin and Jeremy team up to explore Confederation messages that discuss those darker parts of the self less understood and accepted. Extremely few if any of us lack imbalances, so we always have material to work with coming through in our dreams, our biases, our catalyst, and those crazy ways we surprise ourselves. Several Confederation messages suggest that incorporating the shadow self into the greater self is part of the service-to-others path where we gain our grit and tenacity to continue walking the path when it is toughest. Jeremy ties in Monka's recent comments on introjection and projection aspects of the mirroring effect and how it relates to the shadow self.
Show NotesCarla Rueckert on the shadow self (Bean, Gary, Tilting at Windmills, 2016, p. 319)Monka on Mirroing Without and Within (February 24, 2024)Q'uo on the dark side (February 10, 2002)Q'uo on harvest and the shadow self (September 17, 2006)Q'uo on peace, dark, and light (December 21, 2003)Ra on negative stimulation of green ray (Session 72, Question 17)Q'uo on integrating the shadow self (March 10, 1996)Q'uo on the shadow self and magical working (November 5, 2023)Q'uo on the shadow self and authoritarian personalities (June 17, 2023)
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Nithin and Jeremy welcome back Jamie Liestman, who last spoke with us on dreams and the Law of One in episode 48. This time we cover some new ground, starting with Jamie describing how she uses art to better work with her dreams. We discuss the qualitative nature of dreams as time/space experiences, stressing the primacy of their subjective, affective, and atemporal properties. After lamenting the lack of respect society shows dreams, they analyze a Q'uo message to explore how waking life might be symbolically interpreted as if it were a dream in a way benefiting the seeker.
Show Notes(inaudible), episode 48 (inaudible.show)Q'uo on working with dreams (September 4, 2005)Latwii on dream interpretation (July 4, 1982)Q'uo on time/space and dreams (June 19, 2023)Hatonn on dreams (July 18, 1976)Q'uo on interpreting waking life symbolically (May 6, 2017)Ra on dreams bridging the conscious and unconscious (Session 86, Question 12)
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Steve Tyman joins Jeremy for the first of a series of conversations on the twenty-two archetypes that provide a tool for working with the archetypal mind. In this episode they focus on the first five stations of the mind and body cycles: matrix, potentiator, catalyst, experience, and significator. Starting with a re-introduction to the very idea of what an archetype is, they discuss some aspects of these ten archetypes as well as what is meant by "mind" and "body" specifically, with some digressions into the nature of time/space as contrasted to space/time. The other archetypes—the spirit cycle as well as the transformation and great way stations of mind and body—will be discussed in future episodes.
Consider watching this on YouTube where the archetype images are spliced in to help the listener grasp the connections.
Show NotesEpisode 16: An Introduction to the Archetypal Mind (inaudible podcast)The major arcana images from the Egyptian Tarot (thirddensity.com)Ra on the sevenfold nature of energy centers, densities, and archetypes (Session 78, Question 30)Q'uo on the Matrix, Potentiator, and Significator (August 1, 2021)Ra on the male and female concepts in the archetypes (Session 92, Question 20)Ra on the polarized interpretation of catalyst (Session 94, Question 12)Ra's supermarket example (Session 33, Question 8)Ra on the unconscious perception of catalyst (Session 93, Question 20)Ra on the matrix and potentiator of body (Session 78, Question 11)Yom on the material illusion as an unbiased field of experience (April 23, 1989)
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What is addiction, and how does it interact with spiritual evolution? Nithin and Jeremy explore this topic in light of its prevalence and variety in late third density society, bringing in a number of Confederation sources for insight into addiction's relationship with catalyst, desire, comfort, the sinkhole of indifference, and other concepts of interest to the seeker. They also address the psychology in light of the shallow emptiness of the modern "rat race" while also recognizing the catalytic, transformative promise inherent in the suffering that addiction represents.
Show Notes Ra on polarized uses of anger (Session 46, Question 9)Hatonn on addiction to the joy of being whole (February 13, 1983)Q'uo on addiction as catalyst (January 7, 2017)Ra on polarized sexual energy transfers (Session 32, Question 2)Ra on overcoming (Session 18, Question 5)David Foster Wallace on worship (Kenyon College Graduating Class of 2005 Commencement Speech)
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Responding to the proliferation of warfare on the planet recently, Nithin and Jeremy analyze a post-9/11 Q’uo session discussing bellicosity and peace. The principle addresses several biological, cultural, spiritual, and philosophical factors that make not just our people but past third density populations in our system so warlike while also suggesting an appreciation for war’s intense potential for catalysis. Those of Q’uo direct us to look within at our own attitudes and quality of seeking so that we can discover not just the ideal of peace but how to live it and thereby radiate it to the entire planet. It is this personal commitment to unconditional peace and the sacrifices it may entail that help us confront the spiritual root causes of conflict.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Show NotesQ’uo on conflict and peace (November 18, 2001)Ra on toolmaking and bellicosity (Session 90, Question 18)Q’uo on the shadow self and the authoritarian personality (June 17, 2023)Q’uo on personality and the subconscious use of will (November 4, 2023)Ra on the "Lovers" / Transformation of Mind archetype (Session 100, Question 6)Hatonn on their late third density experience (November 16, 1980) Ra on the catalyst of trauma (Session 34, Question 14)Jesus on entering the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 19:20)Q'uo on peace (December 21, 2003)
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Dr. Stephen Tyman joins Jeremy for a conversation about the problem of evil and its relationship to the Confederation's concept of polarized seeking. Steve gives an introduction to how evil has been historically regarded, ranging from a notion of evil as a mere absence of good to the idea of evil as a positive value diametrically opposed to good. They analyze the character and recognizable traits of service-to-self other selves in psychological, spiritual, political, and philosophical aspects, including how service-to-others seekers might relate to those of the opposite polarity.
Apologies for the diminished audio quality. There's also loud noise that interrupts us around the 58:00 mark, that's the context for our pause and joke about humility and patience.
Show NotesThe Concept of Evil (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)The Problem of Evil (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)Ra on Himmler and separation of self from self (36.14)David Graeber on Imaginative Labor (The Utopia of Rules, 2015 Melville House)Ra on inter-polarity conflict in fourth density (Session 25, Question 5)Hatonn on service-to-self resistance to positive service (April 23, 2023)Subscribe to the Other Selves Working Group newsletter (Substack)
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After a few thoughts on how seekers think about careers, Nithin and Jeremy discuss the nature and function of intuition and how it relates to other aspects of mind. They delve into a 1986 Laleema transcript that addresses intuition and intellectual analysis, comparing them to listening and speaking, respectively. Both are required, and only the balance between the two can help one to reach the true goal: the Creator.
It is in incarnation that we get the mixture right because our lessons become firmly grounded in the lasting consequence of making one choice rather than another. Intellectual analysis in particular can help one discern which intuitions are genuine insight and which are expressions of imbalanced emotions; even skepticism and doubt can serve the discovery of genuine faith. This faith, coupled with will, constitute the heart of seeking, Laleema says, allowing us to discover resources beyond ourselves bringing to fruition our recovery of our true identity as the Creator.
Show NotesLaleema on intuition and analysis (May 18, 1986)David Goggins (davidgoggins.com)Discussion on intuition and desire (Bring4th Forum)Ra on mind and intuition (Session 30, Question 2)Ra on implicit but unrecognized polarity before the veil (Session 93, Question 5) Ra on the Creator experiencing itself (Session 82, Question 10)Ra on the function of intuition (Session 49, Question 4)Auxhall on stories of the mind versus intuition (March 12, 2023)Q'uo on emotion and intuition (November 26, 1989)Hatonn on faith and patience (April 23, 2023)Q'uo on the extension of free will past the mover/moved polarity (May 18, 2022)Ra on all being well despite negative time/space displacement (Session 69, Question 11)Ra on balancing by accentuating imbalance (Session 104, Question 2) Q'uo on the significance of individuality (June 19, 2023)Living out will and faith in our daily lives (The Building 4th Podcast, Part 1 and -
On this very special fiftieth episode, we have assembled the High Altitude Receiving Center (HARC) Circle, the current channeling body of the Other Selves Working Group , for a conversation on the nature, purpose, and frontiers of channeling in the tradition of the Confederation of Planets in Service to the One Infinite Creator. Nithin and Jeremy welcome founding Working Group member and senior HARC Circle channel Dr. Stephen Tyman to discuss channeling and the recent Fourth Channeling Intensive they participated in.
In this wide ranging discussion, the three instruments discuss the concepts of channeling and tuning consciousness from the ground up. Steve details the concerns that go into the preparation and dedication of the self to serve as an instrument in a safe, protected, and spiritually salutary manner, not denying the pitfalls and increased catalyst. They talk about some of the practices and approaches they use in their circle, including how they think about the instrument's responsibility and role in the messaging. The recently released eleven channeling sessions recorded in June at the Fourth Channeling Intensive are also addressed along with the finer points of these channeling experiences and where the project may go from here.
Show NotesCurriculum Vita of Stephen Tyman (Southern Illinois University)The Other Selves Working Group Fourth Channeling Intensive (High Altitude Receiving Center)Q'uo on accelerated catalyst (August 2, 2021)Q'uo on everything being fine / all is well (May 19, 2022)Ra on the duration of densities (Session 77, Question 17)Laitos on Planet Earth as the unconscious of the social memory complex (July 31, 2021)Ra on instruments reserving energy ahead of contact (Session 44, Question 8)
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Nithin and Jeremy discuss a 1999 Q'uo session discussing the individual self and its characteristics. We are constantly balancing between our spiritual center and this bag of biases, behaviors, and details we call our personality. As we continue to seek and grow, it is typical to feel like we're living dual lives: a spiritual one and a "normal" one. Essentially, those of Q'uo explain that incarnation is an attempt to bring those two lives into one coherent expression of love and service through navigating the distortions inherent in manifestation.
In the imperfect curation of our total selves into a socially and personally acceptable personality, we work to accept as well as release many aspects we accrete to this self. In the present moment, we understand better our true nature as infinite, free, and secure without relying on the artifice of ego or the reductive power of intellect. We then can better appreciate the distortions of evolution in all their variety, providing one sensory organ for the Creator's infinite exploration of itself through our unique, individual self.
Show NotesQ'uo on our true nature (May 23, 1999)Ra on infinity and the self (Session 1, Question 7)Hatonn on accretion and release of elements of self (May 1, 1983)Hatonn on power, polarity, and evolution (Aug 9 1978)Ra on the center to infinity (Session 82, Question 7)Ra on spontaneous expression (Session 41, Question 19)Eckhart Tolle, The Power of Now (Eckhart Teachings)Q'uo on details (April 6, 2003): "That which distracts is always a detail, that which calls you back to remembrance is always discipline."Ra on negativity of details (Session 26, Question 36)
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On this episode, Jeremy discusses dreams and dreamwork with Jamie Liestman, long time seeker in the Law of One tradition who presented on the subject at the Working Group's April membership meeting. Drawing from contacts with Q'uo and Ra, they explore the purpose and use of dreams in polarization and the discipline of the personality, examining Confederation insight into the sometimes misunderstood role of emotional resonance in this time/space aspect of consciousness. Several techniques for working more compassionately and authentically with dreams are addressed, and this prompts some subtle but profound changes in how we think about the mind and consciousness.
Show NotesRa on the nature of dreams (Session 86)Charlie Morley (Website)Ra on the role of veiling in dreams (Session 83, Question 3)Q'uo on working with dreams (April 12, 1989)Quo on dreams as the seeding of new thought patterns (March 27, 1988)Ra on the vocabulary of dreams (Session 95, Question 18)Jamie's talk on dreamwork (The Other Selves Working Group Youtube channel)
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Nithin joins Jeremy to discuss an oft overlooked concept in Confederation philosophy: what those of Ra described as the "sinkhole of indifference" between service-to-others and service-to-self. The issue is not simply the lack of choice on how to express one's love and thereby continue evolving through the densities, but more tragically how refusing to make a heartfelt choices creates a feedback loop that keeps a person seeking comfort, sleep, and stasis.
How does one succeed in not succumbing to the pressure exerted by society without polarizing negatively? The pair breakdown the nuances of polarity and speculate on the nature of the sinkhole and the opportunities to serve those trapped by fear and the inability to commit to love.
Many heartfelt thanks to listener Reinhard for suggesting the topic! You can always ask us to address ourselves to a subject -- or otherwise give us feedback -- at our contact form: https://inaudible.show/contact-us
Show NotesRa on the sinkhole of indifference (Session 17, Question 33)Ra on the consequences of remaining unpolarized (Session 20, Question 17)Ra (not Hatonn, although I'm sure they count) as the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow (Session 12, Question 26)Jesus on the light yoke of service (Matthew 11:28)Pema Chodron, When Things Fall Apart (Pema Chödrön Foundation)Q'uo on fear, polarity, and power (January 1, 2006)Ra on the transformation of mind archetype (Session 100, Question 6)Hatonn on serving the unpolarized (April 23, 2023)Q'uo on the mechanics of opportunity (July 31, 2023)Gary Bean, Tilting at Windmills (L/L Research Library)
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In this bonus episode, Jeremy shares a presentation he gave at the May 2023 Other Selves Working Group general membership meeting on a model for how seekers can be organized to provide community, resources, and support in a redundant, reliable, in-depth manner.
Show NotesThe Council for Social MemoryLaitos on the planet as the social memory complex's latent unconscious (July 31, 2021)Presentation video (YouTube)
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Nithin and Jeremy welcome Jon Firman to discuss ritual magic and its place in practicing the Law of One philosophy. Jon tells us a bit about his experience with the western magical tradition, and we explore the Confederation's ideas on the matter. Those of Ra confirm a definition of magic as the ability to effect changes in consciousness at will, and we discuss the issues at play in honing that personal will and the way it works with polarization, service, the Archetypal Mind, prayer, and other topics with which this podcast normally deals.
Show NotesJon Firman's Inspire369 (Youtube channel, Substack, and Twitter)Thelema (Wikipedia) and the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (Wikipedia)Ra on magical potential and the will (Session 79, Question 32)Q'uo on magic, faith, and polarity (June 14, 1992)Ra on the "quiet horror" of third density (Session 17, Question 23)Ra on service to others through magic (Session 71, Question 16)Stephen Tyman on Thinking with Symbols (Youtube)Ra on the "keys to unknowing" (Session 84, Question 7)Robert Anton Wilson, neuro-linguistic programming, and magic (Wikipedia, Youtube, and Robert Anton Wilson Fans Germania)Ra on catalyst and the magical (Session 94, Question 20)Foolish Fish's video tutorial on the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram (Youtube)Q'uo on the nature of practicing magic and the Archetypal Mind (February 12, 2006)Douglas Rushkoff's Aleister and Adolf (Rushkoff.com)Monka on networking the light within us (January 15, 2023)
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Jeremy and Nithin assemble once more to tackle one of the greatest mysteries of the Creation: balancing the cosmic force of love with the poise of wisdom. After defining these concepts, they explore how these attempts we make at balance look and feel in life, addressing their impact on the energy centers, our ethics, and our service. This balance is something even those of Ra and the Confederation have gotten wrong, and they explore how the mechanism of trial and error navigates spiritual evolution through the many temptations of excessively foolish love and manipulative, calculating wisdom of the negative path.
However, with compassionate wisdom that partakes of the deeper aspects of our intelligence and our faith, one can accept the pain and hardship of catalysis as part of the mystery of incarnate agency. This pushes us to learn how one can help the Creator guide its love and light where it might best help without such a tight attachment to a specific approach or outcome. Through reflection and inner inquiry we build a capacity to use our lessons to build wisdom with a light touch. We do not need to close our heart or foreclose on our creative ability to transcend zero sum scenarios in weighing the tough decisions stemming from service.
Show NotesQ’uo on love and wisdom (July 31, 2021)Ra on missteps in ancient Egypt (Session 1, Question 5; Session 23, Question 6)Ra on the Venusian negatively polarized wanderers (Session 89, Question 35)Monka on the temptation of urgent assertion of self (January 15, 2023)Ra on wisdom and compassion in service (Session 42, Question 7)Q’uo on the Barbara Brodsky/Aaron backstory (October 8, 2006)Hatonn on experience accruing into wisdom (August 18, 1985)
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Nithin joins Jeremy to discuss an area of shared interest: the orange and yellow ray energy centers and the way they are worked with in our very human, very organized lives. Distinguishing between those one-on-one, orange ray relationships and the more coordinated, socially inflected yellow ray roles is not always clear. However, the more we can understand our catalyst in these two centers, the more we can open the pathway to the green ray center, the springboard to the higher energies. These issues and frameworks for approaching them are discussed in light of friendships, professional settings, power dynamics, service opportunities, and other real world situations where the effect of the cultural and personal distortions vary.
Show NotesRa on yellow and orange ray possession issues (Session 32, Question 14)The Master-Slave Dialectic (The Phenomenology of Spirit, G. W. F. Hegel)In this episode, Jeremy erroneously attributes this concept to Friedrich Nietzsche, who is known for a concept called "Master-Slave Morality," a totally different idea.Ra on the orange and yellow rays (Session 32, Question 2)Ra on the hierarchical nature of the Intelligent Energy (Session 3, Question 8)Definition of social and political power (Wikipedia article)Q'uo on negativity within as a source of tenacity and grit (September 21, 2003)Ra on the unblocked yellow ray energy center (Session 102, Question 11)Ra on second density consciousness (Session 19, Question 15)Latwii on the energy centers and their associated attitudes (June 15, 1990)Q'uo on the yellow yay energies of organizations (August 1, 2021)Ra on reverting to orange ray (Session 41, Question 14)Jeremy and Ryan discussing the red, orange, and yellow ray energy centers (Episode 8)
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After taking most of February and March off, Ryan and Jeremy are back, this time continuing to explore sessions recently published on the Living Love and Light podcast by addressing Confederation commentary on the subject of purity. Hatonn and Latwii go to great lengths to distinguish their definition of purity from how it is regarded spiritually or religiously in our society. Instead of stressing purity as an adherence to rules or a removal of certain parts of ourselves, they emphasize the simple and wholesome radiation of the Creator's light within us. The very nature of incarnation requires the admixture of elements that will seem to make us impure, yet our seeking and striving to polarize allows us to purify our intentions and render the imperfections of life moot.
Show NotesHatonn and Latwii on purity (March 7, 1982)The parable of hiding the lamp under a bushel (Wikipedia article)Q'uo on the role of the spirit complex in self-consciousness (May 18, 2022)Flatland (Wikipedia article)Ra on the purity of light (Session 80, Question 5)Everything Everywhere All at Once (IMDB)Monka on the light within the individual (January 15, 2023)Ra on the pure positivity and negativity (Session 71, Question 14)
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