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Part two of Ian and Dorian’s post-Presidential Election show at the Tabernacle in West London, recorded on the 7th of November. After signing books (have we mentioned there are Origin Story books out?) Dorian and Ian returned to continue the analysis of what the hell just happened. They also considered what a Trump win means for the UK and answered some excellent audience questions.
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Part one of Ian and Dorian’s post-Presidential Election show at the Tabernacle in West London, recorded on the 7th of November. The show turned into a group therapy session, after Trump won to become the first convicted felon to be elected to the highest office in America. Listen back to Dorian and Ian beginning the process of coming to terms with this world-changing outcome and its implications for global politics.
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The final episode of our two-part story of Artificial Intelligence. Having looked at the emergence and development of AI in part one we now turn to the future and assess the dangers and possibilities it raises.
We weigh up two arguments concerning existential risk. Some AI theorists believe the technology has the possibility of becoming sentient and then behaving against humanity's interests. Others worry that it will simply deliver disastrous outcomes on the basis of badly established requests. For instance, if you ask a highly advanced machine to create paperclips, with no additional restrictions, it might end up killing everyone in its relentless pursuit of its task. Are either of these ideas remotely believable? Are they remotely likely?
Then we look at the possible repercussions of more modest outcomes. What happens when everyone on earth is equipped with their own genius machine, which can assess global corporate law in seconds, or make millions on Amazon Marketplace? Will we use it for good or ill? (Spoilers: It'll be bad)
How confidently can we accept the predictions of AI theorists? Are they really right that this is all inevitable? Or is history, and technological development, far more chaotic and unpredictable than their models allow?
Finally, we look at the impact on humanity as we are all suddenly enveloped in AI art. Will an AI song ever move us to tears? And if so, what does that say about who we are and what we look for in the world?
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Reading List
Books
Susie Alegre - Human Rights, Robot Wrongs: Being human in the age of AI (2024)
Nick Bostrom – Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies (2014)
Daniel Crevier – AI: The Tumultuous History of the Search for Artificial Intelligence (1993)
Pedro Domingos - The Master Algorithm: How the quest for the ultimate learning machine will remake the world (2015)
Max Fisher - The Chaos Machine: The Inside Story of How Social Media Rewired Our Minds and Our World (2022)
Walter Isaacson – The Innovators: How a Group of Hackers, Geniuses and Geeks Created the Digital Revolution (2014)
Dorian Lynskey – Everything Must Go: The Stories We Tell About the End of the World (2024)
John Markoff - Machines of Loving Grace: The Quest for Common Ground Between Humans and Robots (2015)
David G. Stork (ed.) – HAL’s Legacy: 2001’s Computer as Dream and Reality (1997)
Mustafa Suleyman with Michael Bhaskar – The Coming Wave: AI, Power and Our Future (2023)
Michael Woolridge – The Road to Conscious Machines: The Story of AI (2021)
Articles
Alan Turing – ‘Computing Machinery and Intelligence’, Mind (1950)
Brad Darrach – ‘Meet Shaky, the First Electronic Person’, Life (1970)
Jeremy Bernstein – ‘A.I.’, New Yorker (1981)
Raffi Khatchadourian – ‘The Doomsday Invention’, New Yorker (2015)
Ted Chiang – ‘Silicon Valley Is Turning Into Its Own Worst Fear’, Buzzfeed News (2017)
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It can seem like conspiracy theories have travelled at warp speed from the eccentric margins to the heart of modern politics. But in fact conspiracism has always been one of history’s darkest forces, from the witch hunts to the Holocaust. In this exclusive audiobook extract from the prologue to Conspiracy Theory: The Story of an Idea, Ian explains how conspiracy theories exploit the human brain’s craving for simple explanations in a chaotic and unpredictable world to spin bogus narratives of evil cliques, shadowy plots and do-or-die conflicts between Us and Them.
Why are conspiracy theories so alluring, how have they shaped history and how can liberal democracy survive if its citizens no longer inhabit a shared reality? Featuring JFK, David Icke, Princess Diana and the Wu-Tang Clan, this is our introduction to a weird and wild story. You can listen to Ian and Dorian read Conspiracy Theory: The Story of an Idea, along with its sister Origin Story publications Fascism and Centrism, on Audible, Spotify or your favourite audiobook platform. Or buy the physical books on Fascism, Centrism and Conspiracy Theory.
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This week we begin the story of Artificial Intelligence. Since the launch of Chat-GPT in late 2022, we have been more excited, and anxious, about AI than ever before. It’s become a daily obsession. But the key question we are grappling with is the same as ever: can machines really ever develop human-style intelligence or merely imitate it? And what is human intelligence anyway?
In part two we’ll be exploring the possible ramifications of AI, from the utopian to the dystopian and all points in between. But first, we explain how humanity’s long, ambivalent fascination with artificial life has brought us here.
We start with premonitions of AI, from Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein to Isaac Asimov’s Three Laws of Robotics, and Ada Lovelace, the original AI sceptic, to Alan Turing and his famous test. Artificial Intelligence itself — the term and the field of study — began in 1956, at a summer school at Dartmouth University. While most computer scientists were working on ways for machines to partner with human intelligence — the personal computer, the internet — AI researchers dreamt of replacing it.
For decades, AI development was a cycle of boom and bust. Extravagant claims attracted funding, talent and media attention, then their failure to materialise caused all three to collapse. AI became tarnished by its broken promises. But in the 21st century, the availability of vast troves of data and powerful new processors finally solved such stubborn challenges as image recognition and automatic translation, leading to the current AI gold rush. Along the way, we meet gamechanging scientists like Marvin Minsky and Geoffrey Hinton as well as landmark machines like ELIZA, the first chatbot, Shakey the robot and AlexNet, deep learning’s great leap forward.
Why does the prospect of machine intelligence enthral and unnerve us? Why has AI proved so much more difficult than its pioneers imagined? How have fictional AIs like HAL and Skynet shaped the mythology of AI? And are Large Language Models like Chat-GPT just glorified autocomplete or a historic turning point in our relationship with machines?
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Reading List
Books
Susie Alegre - Human Rights, Robot Wrongs: Being human in the age of AI (2024)
Nick Bostrom – Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies (2014)
Daniel Crevier – AI: The Tumultuous History of the Search for Artificial Intelligence (1993)
Pedro Domingos - The Master Algorithm: How the quest for the ultimate learning machine will remake the world (2015)
Max Fisher - The Chaos Machine: The Inside Story of How Social Media Rewired Our Minds and Our World (2022)
Walter Isaacson – The Innovators: How a Group of Hackers, Geniuses and Geeks Created the Digital Revolution (2014)
Dorian Lynskey – Everything Must Go: The Stories We Tell About the End of the World (2024)
John Markoff - Machines of Loving Grace: The Quest for Common Ground Between Humans and Robots (2015)
David G. Stork (ed.) – HAL’s Legacy: 2001’s Computer as Dream and Reality (1997)
Mustafa Suleyman with Michael Bhaskar – The Coming Wave: AI, Power and Our Future (2023)
Michael Woolridge – The Road to Conscious Machines: The Story of AI (2021)
Articles
Alan Turing – ‘Computing Machinery and Intelligence’, Mind (1950)
Brad Darrach – ‘Meet Shaky, the First Electronic Person’, Life (1970)
Jeremy Bernstein – ‘A.I.’, New Yorker (1981)
Raffi Khatchadourian – ‘The Doomsday Invention’, New Yorker (2015)
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This week we finish the story of the suffragettes. We pick up the narrative in 1912, when parliament’s failure to deliver women’s suffrage triggered a new phase of violent escalation. No suffragette was more extreme than Emily Wilding Davison, whose death at the hooves of the King’s horse turned a liability into a martyr. Meanwhile, the whole country was convulsed by arson and bomb plots and the Pankhursts’ autocratic leadership was alienating some of their closest allies, including members of their own family. It took the First World War to stop the “reign of terror” and ultimately give women the vote.
Was violence morally justified when peaceful solutions failed? Did it hasten suffrage or threaten to derail it? What might have happened if the war had not intervened? What do the strange and divergent afterlives of the suffragettes tell us about the movement? And what can modern activists like Just Stop Oil learn from the suffragettes?
Behind the sanitised, sentimentalised version of the story lies a thorny tale of the validity and efficacy of violence in a just cause, taking Edwardian Britain to the edge of chaos.
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Reading List
Diane Atkinson – Rise Up Women!: The Remarkable Lives of the Suffragettes (2018)
Helen Lewis – Difficult Women: A History of Feminism in 11 Fights (2020)
Joyce Marlow (editor) – Suffragettes: The Fight for Votes for Women (2015)
Glenda Norquay (editor) – Voices and Votes: A Literary Anthology of the Women’s Suffrage Campaign (1995)
Christabel Pankhurst – Pressing Problems of the Coming Age (1924)
Christabel Pankhurst – Unshackled: The Story of How We Won the Vote (1959)
Sylvia Pankhurst – The Suffragette: The History of the Women’s Militant Suffrage Movement 1905-10 (1911)
Sylvia Pankhurst – The Suffragette Movement: An Intimate Account of Persons and Ideals (1931)
Mary R. Richardson – Laugh a Defiance (1953)
Fern Riddell – ‘Sanitising the Suffragettes’ (2018)
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This week we begin the tumultuous story of the suffragettes. In 1903, Emmeline and Christabel Pankhurst founded the Women’s Social and Political Union. Sick of waiting in vain for women’s suffrage, they decided to secure it by hook or by crook. By 1906, the so-called suffragettes were the most exciting, audacious activists in the land, with their banners of purple, white and green. They then took on the might of the British state with ingenious protests and hunger strikes before agreeing to an uneasy two-year ceasefire while parliament wrestled over whether to give women the vote. We conclude part one at the end of 1911, with political failure and the dawn of a new phase of militancy.
Who were the Pankhursts and their inner circle? How did they interact with Millicent Fawcett’s moderate suffragists? Why were Liberal politicians so determined to deny women the vote? And could it all have worked out very differently?
It’s a fiery story of courage, conflict and missed chances, as British women found their political voice for the first time.
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Reading List
Diane Atkinson – Rise Up Women!: The Remarkable Lives of the Suffragettes (2018)
Helen Lewis – Difficult Women: A History of Feminism in 11 Fights (2020)
Joyce Marlow (editor) – Suffragettes: The Fight for Votes for Women (2015)
Glenda Norquay (editor) – Voices and Votes: A Literary Anthology of the Women’s Suffrage Campaign (1995)
Christabel Pankhurst – Pressing Problems of the Coming Age (1924)
Christabel Pankhurst – Unshackled: The Story of How We Won the Vote (1959)
Sylvia Pankhurst – The Suffragette: The History of the Women’s Militant Suffrage Movement 1905-10 (1911)
Sylvia Pankhurst – The Suffragette Movement: An Intimate Account of Persons and Ideals (1931)
Mary R. Richardson – Laugh a Defiance (1953)
Fern Riddell – ‘Sanitising the Suffragettes’ (2018)
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What the hell happened to Russell Brand? Ten years ago, the comedian and actor was the loudest voice on the British left as his florid calls for spiritual and political revolution won him the support of politicians and journalists. Now he is a full-time conspiracy theorist and disgraced exile from mainstream culture, conducting prayer meetings with Jordan Peterson and flirting with Donald Trump. The fall of a celebrity is not usually Origin Story material but Brand’s transformation epitomises the political chaos of the last decade: how populism and paranoia scramble conventional notions of right and left to create a volatile third category.
In the first episode of season six, Dorian and Ian reassess Brand’s extraordinary rise to fame in the 2000s in light of recent allegations of sexual misconduct and explore how British culture gave him a free pass. In 2013 Brand swapped sex and fame for a new compulsion, reinventing himself as a flamboyant agitator to great acclaim. In the void between Occupy and Corbynism, his verbose mishmash of self-help and socialism briefly made him a lion of the left. During the pandemic Brand embraced a darker shade of politics, promoting conspiracy theories about Covid-19, Ukraine and much more besides. After the allegations broke last year he went full crank, aligning himself with Robert F Kennedy Jr, Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones in the paranoid space.
What does Brand’s journey to the fringes tell us about the shifting political landscape? Did he really switch sides or were the red flags flying all along? What can the left learn from its haste to turn a motormouth comedian into a radical icon? Is Brand’s latest incarnation sincere or opportunistic, and does it really matter? And which of his tomes makes for the most painful reading today: Revolution or My Booky Wook?
This is a bizarre story of celebrity and conspiracy, addiction and attention, which says a great deal about where we are now.
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Reading List
Books
Russell Brand - My Booky Wook (2007)
Russell Brand - Revolution (2014)
Anna Merlan - Republic of Lies: American Conspiracy Theorists and Their Surprising Rise to Power (2019)
Naomi Klein - Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World (2023)
Video and audio
Russell Brand at parliamentary select committee on drug addiction (2012)
Newsnight debate on drug addiction with Peter Hitchens (2012)
Newsnight interview with Jeremy Paxman (2013)
Newsnight interview with Evan Davis (2014)
Brand: A Second Coming, directed by Ondi Timoner (2015)
Russell Brand: In Plain Sight: Dispatches (2023)
Russell Brand podcast archive
Articles
Michael Kelly, ‘The Road to Paranoia’, New Yorker (1995)
Piers Morgan, ‘Russell Brand’, GQ (2006)
Miranda Sawyer, Brand on the run, The Guardian (2008)
Russell Brand on Margaret Thatcher: “I always felt sorry for her children”, The Guardian (2013)
Russell Brand on revolution: “We no longer have the luxury of tradition”, New Statesman (2013)
Brian Logan, ‘Messiah Complex – review’, Guardian (2013)
Mark Fisher, ‘Exiting the Vampire Castle’, Open Democracy (2013)
Justin Gray, ‘The Sneaky Smarts of Russell Brand’, Vulture (2013)
David Runciman, ‘Revolution by Russell Brand review’, Guardian (2014)
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Sex! Violence! Censorship! These days the British Board of Film Classification rarely makes headlines but it was on the cultural frontlines throughout the 20 th century, from Herbert Asquith and the dawn of British cinema to Mary Whitehouse and “video nasties”. Through the turbulent life of one institution, Ian takes Dorian through a century of moral panics, censorship and furious debates about cinema’s influence on the life of the nation. This (literally) cinematic tale ranges from The Birth of a Nation and Nosferatu to Cannibal Holocaust and The Life of Brian, and has an unusually uplifting ending. Won’t somebody think of the children?!
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Reading List
The Miracle Of The Movies by Leslie Wood, Burke Publishing 1915
Obscenity and Film Censorship: An Abridgement of the Williams Report edited by Bernard Williams
The British Board of Film Censors: film censorship in Britain, 1896-1950 by James Robertson, Dover, N.H. 1985
Censoring the moving image by Phillip French Seagull Books, 2007
See no evil: Banned films and video controversy by David Kerekes, Headpress 2000
Ban The Sadist Videos: 2005 Documentary
ScreenOnline: Duval, Robin
Mark Kermode interview with Robin Duval: Guardian 2004
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Emmanuel Macron is one of the most fascinating and infuriating figures in 21st century politics. Seven years ago, the philosopher-statesman shredded France’s status quo by seizing the presidency at the helm of a brand new centrist party. But his achievements, at home and abroad, have not lived up to his grand visions and his summer election gamble has left him weaker than ever. Ian tells Dorian a dramatic story of idealism, ambition and hubris, explaining what Macron’s strengths and flaws reveal about the changing face of centrism, the battle with the far right and what makes French politics so very French. Sacre bleu!
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Reading List
Revolution by Emmanuel Macron, Scribe 2017
Emmanuel Macron: Revolution Francais by Sophie Pedder, Bloomsbury 2018
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Over the past eight years, the word “gaslighting” has transformed from an obscure term in psychiatric literature into a ubiquitous buzzword to describe the kind of deceit that makes you feel like you’re losing your mind. But are we using it correctly? What explains its sudden popularity? And is it entirely wise to import a psychological term into the world of politics? Dorian tells Ian how the title of Patrick Hamilton’s hit 1938 play Gaslight gradually became a verb and eventually went viral during Trump’s first presidential campaign in 2016. The story ranges from Ingrid Bergman and I Love Lucy to George Orwell and the Stasi before landing amid the current election dust-up between Trump and Kamala Harris. Strictly facts, no gaslighting, we promise.
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The Battle of Cable Street on 4 October 1936 has been described as “the greatest anti-fascist victory on British soil”. It is certainly the most mythologised, most recently inspiring massive anti-fascist protests in British cities. But what actually happened that day? Who exactly was doing the battling? And did this display of working-class solidarity in London’s East End really stop Oswald Mosley’s British Union of Fascists in its tracks?
Dorian tells Ian the story of that landmark Sunday and its aftermath, from the points of view of protesters, police and politicians, and finds some surprising answers.
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Racist violence has inflamed several British cities this past week. Should we call the events protests, riots or pogroms? Are the participants actual fascists or ordinary citizens with “legitimate concerns”? And how did the fiction of “two-tier policing” go from extremists to broadcasters in a couple of days? Ian and Dorian analyse how the language of the far right and its mainstream enablers obscures what is really going on and ask if Britain’s worst street violence since 2011 will change anything.
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Couldn’t make it to the Origin Story live show in London on Monday 15 July? Don’t worry, we’ve got audio for you. Listen up as Dorian and Ian take one last wallow in the glory of Election Night ’24… think about what might be in store for some of our favourite bad losers… see how the events of the campaign relate to the subjects of our past series… and of course answer your questions.
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The final episode of season five covers the Rushdie Affair. On 14 February 1989, the Ayatollah Khomeini’s fatwa against Salman Rushdie made The Satanic Verses the most famous novel in the world — for all the wrong reasons. The controversy had far-reaching implications for free speech, international relations and the political identity of British Muslims. Although the issue seemed to have been resolved in 1998, the attempted murder of Rushdie in 2022 showed that it was far from over.
Dorian and Ian tell the whole story from all angles: Rushdie’s decade in hiding, Iran’s rivalry with Saudi Arabia, community relations in Britain, divisions in the literary scene, and the conflicted responses of politicians around the world.
What exactly did The Satanic Verses say that made people so angry? Which public figures were on Rushdie’s side and which ones thought he had it coming? How did Rushdie get his life back, only to almost lose it decades later? And what is the cultural and political legacy of the affair today? It is a tale of artistic freedom colliding with religious dogma and political calculations to turn a work of fiction into an international incident for the first time.
Reading list
Abdulrazak Gurnah, ed. – The Cambridge Companion to Salman Rushdie (2007)
Christopher Hitchens – Hitch-22: A Memoir (2010)
Daniel Pipes – The Rushdie Affair: The Novel, the Ayatollah, and the West (1990)
Salman Rushdie – The Satanic Verses (1988)
Salman Rushdie – Imaginary Homelands: Essays and Criticism 1981-1991 (1991)
Salman Rushdie – Joseph Anton (2012)
Salman Rushdie – Knife: Meditations After an Attempted Murder (2024)
Articles
John Cunningham – ‘Sentenced to the prison of the word’, The Guardian (1990)
Will Lloyd – How We Gave Up on Salman Rushdie, UnHerd (2022)
Dorian Lynskey – Salman Rushdie on Quichotte: “The world as I knew it seems to be coming to an end” the i (2019)
Sean O’Grady – The Satanic Verses 30 Years On review, The Independent (2019)
David Remnick – The Defiance of Salman Rushdie, New Yorker (2023)
Salman Rushdie – The Disappeared, New Yorker (2012)
Words for Salman Rushdie – New York Times (1989)
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The season five finale coincides with the general election, so we’ve decided to get very topical indeed with the story of Labour leader and likely prime minister Keir Starmer. To his admirers, he’s the master strategist who took Labour from doom to Downing Street in a single term. To his foes, he’s a ruthless liar who will stop at nothing to crush the left. To the average voter, he remains a bit of a blank slate. What kind of prime minister will he be?
Ian and Dorian trace Starmer’s youthful journey from working-class Surrey socialist to indie-loving, centrist-bashing law student, explaining the legacy of a difficult childhood. He was the star human rights lawyer, at the heart of 1990s controversies from the McLibel case to policing in Northern Ireland, who became the country’s top prosecutor and then a knight of the realm. At the age of 52, he entered politics and soon found himself on the frontline of the Brexit wars, butting heads with Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn. We end with his leadership of the party and the price of victory.
Why is Starmer such a closed book in public? How did he go from radical socialist to centrist dad? What went down between him and Corbyn? Was he really an arch-remainer? When did he almost throw in the towel? And what are the core values that might define his premiership? Discover all this and more in the story of our next prime minister.
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Reading list
Tom Baldwin - Keir Starmer: The Biography (2024)
Oliver Eagleton – The Starmer Project: A Journey to the Right (2022)
Gabriel Pogrund and Patrick Maguire – Left Out: The Inside Story of Labour Under Corbyn (2020)
Tim Shipman – Fall Out: A Year of Political Mayhem (2017)
Articles and podcasts
Emily Ashton, ‘Keir Starmer Is Not Who You Think He Is’, Buzzfeed (2020)
Elliott Chappell, ‘Interview with Keir Starmer’, Labour List (2020)
Desert Island Discs: Sir Keir Starmer (2020)
George Eaton, ‘What Is Starmerism?’, The New Statesman (2024)
Charlotte Edwardes, ‘“You asked me questions I’ve never asked myself”: Keir Starmer’s most personal interview yet’
The Guardian, ‘In Praise of… Keir Starmer’, The Guardian (2009)
Billy Kenber, ‘Keir Starmer: Radical who attacked Kinnock in Marxist journal’, The Times (2020)
Keir Starmer, ‘Sorry, Mr Blair, but 1441 does not authorise force’, The Guardian (2003)
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This episode tells the tale of the anti-vaxxers. The word has only been around since 2001 but inoculation has inspired opposition for as long as it has existed in the West. Dorian and Ian chart the life of vaccines and their opponents from the fight against smallpox in the eighteenth century to the vaccine scandals of the post-war decades. Find out why someone threw a bomb through Cotton Mather’s window, why Gandhi changed his mind, and why Leicester became the anti-vaccine capital of the world.
The drama accelerates with Dr Andrew Wakefield and the MMR panic of the 2000s, which swept up everyone for Oprah Winfrey to Private Eye, caused a public health disaster and set the stage for the full-blown mania of the backlash against Covid-19 vaccines. How did a rogue British gastroenterologist launch a global movement? How did vaccine scepticism mutate into a giant conspiracy theory? Is Bill Gates really implanting 5G trackers in our blood? (No.) And what’s the best way to get an anti-vaxxer to think again?
It’s a gripping story of science, journalism, paranoia, superstition and people who should know better.
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Reading list
• David Aaronovitch – Voodoo Histories: How Conspiracy Theory Has Shaped Modern History (2010)
• Jonathan M. Berman – Anti-Vaxxers: How to Challenge a Misinformed Movement (2020)
• Steve Brotherton – Suspicious Minds: Why We Believe Conspiracy Theories (2016)
• Brian Deer – The Doctor Who Fooled the World: Andrew Wakefield’s War on Vaccines (2020)
• Peter Furtado - Plague, Pestilence and Pandemic: Voices from History (2021)
• Naomi Klein – Doppelganger (2023)
• Anna Merlan – Republic of Lies: American Conspiracy Theorists and Their Surprising Rise to Power (2020)
• Seth Mnookin – The Panic Virus: The True Story Behind the Vaccine-Autism Controversy (2011)
• Tom Phillips and Jonn Elledge - Conspiracy: A History of Bxllocks Theories and How Not to Fall for Them (2022)
• Frank M. Snowden - Epidemics and Society: From the Black Death to the Present (2019)
Podcasts and articles
• You’re Wrong About: The Anti-Vaccine Movement (2021)
• Maintenance Phase: RFK Jr. and the Rise of the Anti-Vaxx Movement (2023)
• Isaac Chotiner, ‘The Influence of the Anti-Vaccine Movement’, The New Yorker (2020)
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The war in Gaza has led to accusations of genocide but that word operates on two levels. It’s both a strict legal term that has to be adjudicated by the International Criminal Court and an informal expression of moral outrage. The definition has been contested ever since the word was invented by the lawyer Raphael Lemkin in 1944, in the furnace of the Holocaust. In this two-part episode Dorian and Ian tell the story of genocide as a legal and political category. What exactly does it mean? How is it different from crimes against humanity or ethnic cleansing? Why is it so hard to prove? And how did it become seen as the ultimate crime?
In part two, Ian and Dorian tell the story of Lemkin’s invention of genocide and his efforts to make it an international crime. They explain how legal wrangling during the Nuremberg trials led to the 1948 Genocide Convention, and why it took so long for anybody to be charged with the crime, let alone brought to justice. Why do so many of the twentieth century’s most horrendous offences not qualify as genocide? Why did international condemnation fail to prevent genocides in Rwanda, Darfur and the former Yugoslavia? And why is the case against Israel so contentious?
It’s a disturbing story but a fascinating one, raising essential questions about the rights of the individual versus the rights of the group, the limits of international law, and humankind’s capacity for justifying mass murder.
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Reading list
• Donald Bloxham and A. Dirk Moses (eds.) - The Oxford Handbook of Genocide Studies, 2013
• Philip Gourevitch – We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed with Our Families, 1998
• Ben Kiernan – Blood and Soil: A World History of Genocide and Extermination from Sparta to Darfur, 2007
• Norman N. Naimark – Genocide: A World History, 2016
• Samantha Power – A Problem from Hell, 2002
• Philippe Sands – East West Street, 2016
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The war in Gaza has led to accusations of genocide but that word operates on two levels. It’s both a strict legal term that has to be adjudicated by the International Criminal Court and an informal expression of moral outrage. The definition has been contested ever since the word was invented by the lawyer Raphael Lemkin in 1944, in the furnace of the Holocaust.
In this two-part episode Dorian and Ian tell the story of genocide as a legal and political category. What exactly does it mean? How is it different from crimes against humanity or ethnic cleansing? Why is it so hard to prove? And how did it become seen as the ultimate crime?
In part one, Ian and Dorian chart the prehistory of genocide — the ancient desire of groups to utterly eradicate their enemies. They go from the vengeful massacres of the Old Testament and Greek myth to the destruction of Carthage and the Holy War of the Crusades. Then they enter the age of empire, from the crimes of the Conquistadors to the elimination of the Tasmanians. Modern genocide began with the slaughter of the Herero in East Africa and the Armenians in the Ottoman Empire, setting the stage for the Nazis.
It’s a disturbing story but a fascinating one, raising essential questions about the rights of the individual versus the rights of the group, the difference between reckless violence and targeted destruction, and humankind’s capacity for justifying mass murder.
• See Origin Story live at the King’s Head Theatre, London on Mon 15 July. Tickets here.
• Pre-order the forthcoming Origin Stories books on Centrism, Fascism and Conspiracy Theory and get 20% off using the special discount code revealed in the podcast.
• Support Origin Story on Patreon
Reading list
• Donald Bloxham and A. Dirk Moses (eds.) - The Oxford Handbook of Genocide Studies,
2013
• Philip Gourevitch – We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed with Our
Families, 1998
• Ben Kiernan – Blood and Soil: A World History of Genocide and Extermination from Sparta
to Darfur, 2007
• Norman N. Naimark - Genocide: A World History, 2016
• Samantha Power – A Problem from Hell, 2002
• Philippe Sands – East West Street, 2016
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Back for season five, Origin Story continues to explore the misunderstood ideas and people that shape our politics today. With Ian Dunt and Dorian Lynskey.
In this two-parter Ian gets seriously into the research by mining his own book for episode ideas and comes up smiling with this tale of love, bravery and feminism. John Stuart Mill and Harriet Taylor are the mother and father of liberalism, a joint writing team who produced the most seminal books about freedom in the modern era. But while he was worshipped by those who came afterwards, she was mocked, lambasted and then erased from history.
In part two, Ian and Dorian talk about the single most important liberal book ever written, track the ups and downs of the couple's tumultuous affair, and show how Mill became a woke warrior in his old age, fighting against racism and sexism and destroying his carefully-built Victorian reputation in the process.
• See Origin Story live at the King’s Head Theatre, London on Mon 15 July. Tickets here.
• Pre-order the forthcoming Origin Stories books on Centrism, Fascism and Conspiracy Theory and get 20% off using the special discount code revealed in the podcast.
• Buy The Ministry of Truth through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund Origin Story by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too.
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Reading list
Ian Dunt – How to be a Liberal (2020) (Has anyone heard of this book? Is it any good?)
Jo Ellen Jacobs (ed) – The Complete Works of Harriet taylor Mill (1998)
John Stuart Mill (and Harriet Taylor Mill) – On Liberty (1859)
John Stuart Mill (and Harriet Taylor Mill) – The Subjection of Women (1869)
John Stuart Mill and Jeremy Bentham – Utilitarianism and Other Essays (1987)
Richard Reeves – John Stuart Mill: Victorian Firebrand (2007)
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