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This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys share their insider knowledge on how to lock down fantastic trips and deals even if you’re a little late to the party. Hidden National Parks, secret city hideaways, and booking schemes await!
Things We Talked About on Today’s Episode:
Julie Klausner
https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/how-was-your-week/
Boop the Musical
https://boopthemusical.com/
North Cascades
https://www.nps.gov/noca/index.htm
Isle Royale
https://www.nps.gov/isro/index.htm
Great Sand Dunes
https://www.nps.gov/grsa/index.htm
Mesa Verde
https://www.nps.gov/meve/index.htm
Badlands
https://www.nps.gov/badl/index.htm
Rapid City Sculptor episode
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/city-of-presidents-with-james-van-nuys/id1438098925?i=1000451011128
Canyonlands
https://www.nps.gov/cany/index.htm
Bear Ears National Monument
https://www.blm.gov/visit/bears-ears-national-monument
Great State Parks episode
https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-43-state-parks-with-peter-kujawinski/
Great State Parks NYT article
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/21/travel/state-parks-visit-colorado-nc-florida.html
Google Flights “Explore” function
https://www.google.com/travel/explore
Skyscanner “Explore Everywhere” function
https://www.skyscanner.com/transport/flights-from/us/?adultsv2=1&cabinclass=economy&childrenv2=&ref=home&rtn=1&preferdirects=false&outboundaltsenabled=false&inboundaltsenabled=false&oym=2507&iym=2507
AirBNB Experiences announcement
https://news.airbnb.com/airbnb-2025-summer-release/
The Walker Library of the History of Human Imagination
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Library_of_the_History_of_Human_Imagination
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This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us to Romania—visiting Bucharest, Brașov, and Cluj-Napoca. Expect puppets, dictator mansions, and steampunk exhibits along the way.
Things We Talked About In Today's Episode:- Ceaușescu Mansion
https://timharford.com/2024/04/cautionary-tales-the-rise-and-fall-of-a-megalomaniac/
- Palace of the Parliament
- "Dimitrie Gusti" National Village Museum
- Carturesti Verona
- The Puck Puppet Theater https://teatrulpuck.ro/?lang=en @tomiksz13 the puppeteer https://www.instagram.com/tomiksz13? -
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On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys treat the ancient aqueducts like a flume ride and splash right into Rome! Kiernan and Ryan talk Emperors, SPQR, why columns make the best decor, plus just a touch of new Pope speculation.
Our episode on Vatican City:
https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-197-vatican-city/Things We Talked About on Today’s Episode:
“The Fall of Rome” podcast
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-fall-of-rome-podcast/id1141563910
“SPQR” by Mary Beard
https://a.co/d/71DS93Z
“Roman Holiday”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rL5QxXF0g8
Colosseum
https://colosseo.it/en/area/the-colosseum/
Forum
https://colosseo.it/en/area/the-roman-forum/
Palatine Hill
https://colosseo.it/en/area/the-palatine/
Pantheon
https://www.pantheonroma.com/home-eng/
Borghese Gallery
https://galleriaborghese.beniculturali.it/en/
Bath of Diocletian
https://museonazionaleromano.beniculturali.it/en/baths-of-diocletian/
Trevi Fountain
https://www.blacktomato.com/us/inspirations/the-history-of-romes-trevi-fountain/
Spanish Steps
https://romesite.com/spanish-steps.html
Catacombs of Saint Sebastian
https://www.catacombe.org/
Lego Trevi Fountain
https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/trevi-fountain-21062
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On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys celebrate the pod’s 200th episode with travel icon Rick Steves! Kiernan chats with Rick about his latest book “On the Hippie Trail: Istanbul to Kathmandu and the Making of a Travel Writer” and about how keeping a journal can make one into a keener observer of culture.
Rick’s philosophy of travel is that if you haven’t come back changed, you didn’t do it right. This interview will leave you changed.
Plus, a new artistic saint!
Things we talked about in today’s podcast:
Rick Steves’ Europe
https://www.ricksteves.com/
Free scans of every page of Rick’s journal
https://www.ricksteves.com/about-rick/original-hippie-trail-journal
Saint Gaudi!
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/world/europe/antoni-gaudi-architect-saint.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
Wanna help us celebrate 200? Leave a review (please)!
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-office-a-travel-podcast/id1438098925
And a final note from Ryan and Kiernan: RIP POPE FRANCIS!
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On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us on three day trips from Santiago, Chile. First is Valparaíso, a coastal city known for its hills, historic funiculars, and street art. Then on to Valle de Colchagua, where wine tastings and a standout meal at Fuegos de Apalta make for a vino day. Finally, head to the Andes to soak in the mineral pools at Termas Valle de Colina. Plus, Kiernan talks about his old friend Corn Husker 55!
Leave us a 5 Star Review!
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-office-a-travel-podcast/id1438098925
Santiago Episode:
https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-194-santiago-chile/The Hills:
https://www.moon.com/travel/trip-ideas/the-hills-of-valparaiso-chile/Restaurants: La Concepción & La Caperucita y el Lobo
https://museobaburizza.cl/en/home/
Our wine tour provider:
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On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys head to Krakow, the intellectual heart of Poland. The city is home to beautiful churches, endless Pope John Paul II memorabilia, one of the oldest universities in the world (Copernicus attended), and moving remembrances of Jewish citizens killed in the Holocaust. Plus, a quick detour to the historic Wieliczka Salt Mine.
Things We Talked About on Today’s Episode:
Schengen Area:
https://dailypassport.com/what-is-the-schengen-area/Remains of the Ghetto wall
https://g.co/kgs/ammrVVzOskar Schindler's Enamel Factory
https://muzeumkrakowa.pl/en/branches/oskar-schindlers-enamel-factoryMOCAK
https://en.mocak.pl/https://www.instagram.com/prosciuttko_/?hl=en
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On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys Catholic out hard. In celebration of Lent, “Conclave,” and a Catholic Jubilee Year, Kiernan talks us through the top sites to see in Vatican City. Rome is expecting 32M visitors this year, and now each and every one can listen to Out of Office!
Things We Talked About on Today’s Episode:
Jubilee 2025
https://www.usccb.org/jubilee2025
Holy Doors
https://www.ewtnvatican.com/articles/5-holy-doors-what-every-catholic-should-know-ahead-of-jubilee-2025-4075
Saint Peter’s
https://www.basilicasanpietro.va/en/
Pope John XXIII
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/martyrs-miracles-and-the-stuff-of-making-saints/
Vatican II
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2022-10/vatican-ii-council-60th-anniversary-video-history-background.html
Papal Altar and Canopy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Peter%27s_Baldachin
Chair of Saint Peter
https://www.ncregister.com/cna/historic-chair-of-st-peter-on-public-display-in-vatican-basilica-for-first-time-in-150-years
Tomb of Saint Peter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Peter%27s_tomb
Saint Peter Statue
https://stpetersbasilica.info/Statues/StPeter/StPeter.htm
La Pieta
https://fa-inkwell.org/1039/arts/artists-review-la-pieta-one-of-michelangelos-earliest-works/
Vatican Museums
https://www.museivaticani.va/content/museivaticani/en.html
Laocoon and his Sons
https://www.museivaticani.va/content/museivaticani/en/collezioni/musei/museo-pio-clementino/Cortile-Ottagono/laocoonte.html
Gallery of the Candelabra
https://www.museivaticani.va/content/museivaticani/en/collezioni/musei/museo-pio-clementino/Galleria-dei-Candelabri/galleria-dei-candelabri.html
“School of Athens”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_School_of_Athens
Sistine Chapel “In Our Time” episode
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0015vh8
Sistine Chapel pre-reading
https://www.througheternity.com/en/blog/art/michelangelo-last-judgment-sistine-chapel-vatican.html
Omio
https://www.omio.com/
Jenny Nicholson on the Star Wars Hotel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0CpOYZZZW4
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On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan offers an overview of Berlin's museums, highlighting a few of his favorites, from the story of Hitler's rise and fall in an underground bunker to contemporary art in an old train station. Plus, Kiernan talks about Boston.
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This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan chats with Stephen Hiltner, the New York Times editor in charge of this year’s “52 Places to Go in 2025.” Stephen talks about some highlights from this year’s selections, plus a few spots that didn’t quite make the cut.
Here’s what we cover in this episode:
“52 Places to Go in 2025”
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/travel/places-to-travel-destinations-2025.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
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This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us south to Santiago, Chile, where he rides up a funicular and down a cable car to see the Virgin Mary. Plus, eating barnacles and flying out of Kafka Airport.
The Month In Digital (Ryan’s Marketing Newsletter):
https://monthindigital.substack.com/Kafka Airport:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DC2AdoIM1DD/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Restaurants:
Peumayén Ancestral Food
Sanguchería Ciudad Vieja
The Singular Santiago’s Rooftop
Bocanáriz
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This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys talk about their holiday breaks and discuss why ski trips are well-worth the expense and steep learning curve. Plus, Ryan has a onesie!
Here’s what we cover in this episode:
NYT on European Skiing
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/19/travel/europe-skiing-budget.html
Beaver Creek
https://www.beavercreek.com/
Cannon Mountain in New Hampshire
https://www.cannonmt.com/tickets
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This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys celebrate the season with discussions of the Immaculate Conception (it’s not what Ryan thinks), an idea for holiday film commentaries yet to come, and the LAST Ugly Ornament contest. And another year passes without seeing pictures of the Nativity Ryan’s father painstakingly carved from a single block of wood.
Here’s what we cover in this episode:
Deborahttps://www.instagram.com/deborarest/?hl=en
LATAM 50 Best Restaurants
https://www.theworlds50best.com/latinamerica/en/
“White Christmas” movie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Christmas_(film)
Day of the Little Candles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Little_Candles
Reba McEntire “Christmas Guest”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57fS-9kGZqU
Jimmy Fallon “Chipmunks and Chestnuts”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CChx2qVNl0
Kiernan’s Ugly Ornament for Ryan
https://johnderian.com/products/mushroom-person-ornament?srsltid=AfmBOoqJ58ABMzRZ1iiMibeH0zVvGJn3ZumEEEhUAHIicz2ZfBsFIk4T
Ryan’s Ugly Ornament for Kiernan
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1814317312/bespoke-funny-prank-xmaschristmas?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=ugly+ornament&ref=sr_gallery-1-9&pro=1&pop=1&content_source=fde4cc23f7c035e7d3ac14a1cd6a7a4bf6a9e3ed%253A1814317312&search_preloaded_img=1&organic_search_click=1
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This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan recaps his recent trip to Monterrey, Mexico, covering highlights from the scenic River Walk to an interactive steel museum. He also shares a wild story about a run-in with a bribery-seeking cop in Puerto Vallarta.
Here’s what we cover in this episode:
https://www.travelandleisure.com/best-places-to-go-2025-8739580 -
This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan talks with one of the greatest Star Wars collectors of all time: Steve Sansweet. Steve is the founder of Rancho Obi-Wan, the largest collection of Star Wars memorabilia in the world. Located in Petaluma CA, the museum is open for public tours, but be sure to pre-book. And if it all goes according to plan, soon Rancho Obi-Wan will be joining forces with 3 other top collections to become the brand-new Saga Museum.
Things we talk about in this week’s episode:
Saga Museum
https://ranchoobiwan.org/new-saga-museum-to-celebrate-legacy-of-star-wars-fandom/
Steve Sansweet Bio
https://ranchoobiwan.org/board/
Rancho Obi-Wan
https://ranchoobiwan.org/
Ralph McQuarrie
https://www.iamag.co/star-wars-the-art-of-ralph-angus-mcquarrie-100-concept-art/
Head Man Action Figure
https://ranchoobiwan.org/
Lucas Museum of Narrative Art
https://lucasmuseum.org/
Last Star Wars episode
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-office-a-travel-podcast/id1438098925?i=1000581538592
Britannic Explorer
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/12/travel/brittanic-explorer-belmond-train-luxury/index.html
Lidar-delivers again!
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/02/world/americas/maya-city-mexico.html
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In this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan talks with Stephanie Wallach, one of the first women to break into the world of commercial aviation in America. Plus, Kiernan faces an unfortunate bout of gate lice.
Follow Along On Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/ooopodcast/Things We Talked About In This Week’s Episode:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/23/business/american-airlines-line-cutters.html
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/welcome-aboard -
On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys embrace Spooktober by sharing their favorite graveyards. Plus, there’s an update on friend of the pod Rick Steves’ health and some Boston travel tips from Kiernan.
Things We Talked About In This Week’s Episode:
UPDATE RICK STEVES HEALTH
https://x.com/ricksteves/status/1843844907833950542?s=46
Our Share Of The Night By Mariana Enriquez
https://www.amazon.com/Our-Share-Night-Mariana-Enriquez/dp/0451495144
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In this episode, Ryan chats with Rory, a travel agent, about why people still use agents in 2024 and what it’s like booking tickets for Andrew Scott. Plus, Kiernan talks about his new job as a Boston tour guide.
Things We Talked About In This Week’s Episode:Last Stop
Ryan:
https://www.businessinsider.com/avoid-visa-mistake-no-middle-name-almost-ruined-tripKiernan: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/27/world/europe/westminster-abbey-bronte-plaque-accent-marks.html
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This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan and Ryan chat about the deep connections between music and travel, including how a well-chosen song can be the ideal souvenir. They also dig into how much Ryan prepares for each episode. Plus, Norwegian Children’s Music!
Things we talk about in this week’s episode:
Rick Steves endorses Kamala:
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/4878714-rick-steves-endorses-harris/
Travel therapy
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/09/240905121025.htm
”Earth Room’
https://www.diaart.org/visit/visit-our-locations-sites/walter-de-maria-the-new-york-earth-room-new-york-united-states/
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This week on the pod, Ryan takes us to El Salvador, the land of volcanoes and Bitcoin. Hear about how he almost made it inside a beautiful church and his visit to Hermit Island. Plus, what was the miniature controversy at the Kentucky State Fair?
LAST STOP
Ryan:
https://nypost.com/2024/08/23/us-news/kentucky-state-fair-removes-ribbon-winning-miniature-after-realizing-it-depicted-a-porn-set/
Kiernan:https://www.travelandleisure.com/hotels-resorts/vacation-rentals/most-unique-airbnb-stay-every-us-state
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This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan chats with Sarah Robbins, the COO of 21C Museum Hotels, a unique chain that combines modern art and comfortable accommodations. They talk through what it takes to run both a thriving hospitality business AND a compelling art operation. Plus,
Things we talk about in this week’s episode:
“North to Alaska”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoqVPcXDtUs
21C Museum Hotel
https://www.21cmuseumhotels.com/
New UNESCO World Heritage Sites
https://www.euronews.com/culture/2024/08/02/a-roman-road-sand-dunes-and-gold-mines-these-are-the-24-new-unesco-world-heritage-sites-fo
Dems whipping airlines into shape
https://www.npr.org/2024/08/01/g-s1-14662/airline-junk-fees-family-seating-dot
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