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We're pretty sure Co-host Ray Miller Still is a millennial. It doesn't do to make too much of a point. Ray is the editor of the Enumclaw Courier Herald which is the only paper of that name in the United States. This Week we're joined by our Producer, Jason Falls, who is a member Generation X. Swimming Upstream Host Dorothy Wilhelm is a member of The Silent Generation. For those who are thinking, "C'mon, she's never been silent a day in her life", that name refers to the fact that members of that generation never protested. They followed the rules. On today's show, Generation Gap covers Weddings. We're talking about weddings - are they necessary? We'll look at how each generation has seen them and what we know now that we didn't know earlier.
In the 50's, weddings were not generally fairy tale events. Dorothy recalls that her wedding dress cost $50- you couldn't buy a shoelace for that today, but remember at that time, a semester's college tuition was $80. People made their own finery - or did without. Dorothy recut three prom dresses for her bridesmaids. The high point of the reception was pulling her 12 year old brother out of the bourbon fountain. We looked for different things in the 50's.
But as the decades went by, the weddings became more and more lavish with unforgettable ball gowns, 25-foot-long train, and perhaps arrival via horse-drawn carriage—inspired a generation of brides to embrace the more-is-more aesthetic of the 1980s for their weddings. “It was part of the Superwoman myth of the 1980s—you could work at home, and you could work in the marketplace; you could be married, but you could also have a career,” says Karen Dunak. “There was this idea that you could be a strong woman and also be a bride like a princess on your wedding day.”
Weddings became increasingly opulent, elaborate, and lavish, while remaining a symbol of wealth and status for the bride’s parents. “In the ‘80s, ‘90s, and even early aughts, it was all big, big, big," affirms Miss Manners."Very few people were doing the small-wedding thing.
So what are we talking about on the show? Let's take a look at how different our expectations are. When Dorothy was engaged, nice girls didn't rush the wedding celebration so it was no problem thinking of things to do after the ceremony. Today a destination wedding seems a requirement. The different generations will have a lot to say about that.
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Terri Thal was a vital presence in the 1960s Greenwich Village folk music world, where she played a pivotal role as Bob Dylan's first manager at just 21 years of age. At the heart of it all, she witnessed—and helped shape—one of the most important cultural movements of 20th-century America," Essayist Frank Matheis wrote those words about Terri Thal in his candid account, A Life of Grace and Grit: The Legacy of Terri Thal. Frank is also a guest on today's show and will share thoughts from his essay. Terri was a multi-faceted music manager and lifelong activist. Thal has chronicled her remarkable journey in her tenderly-told 2023 memoir, My Greenwich Village – Dave, Bob and Me (McNidder & Grace).
A multi-faceted music manager and lifelong activist, Thal has chronicled her remarkable journey in her tenderly-told 2023 memoir, My Greenwich Village – Dave, Bob and Me (McNidder & Grace), suffused with a candid account of the early folk scene and her intersection with two of its towering figures: Dave Van Ronk and Bob Dylan. Her book comes at just the right time to tell the rest of the story outlined in the popular Dylan bio pic, A Complete Unknown. It was a good movie, she says - but incomplete. Characters were combined, or simply disappeared she says, and she's glad to fill in the spots with personal anecdotes that only she can tell.
Matheis goes on, "In the early 1960s, New York’s Greenwich Village was the epicenter of the American folk music revival. The Village pulsed with raw creativity and political passion, serving as the heart of the American folk music revival and a haven for artists, poets, activists, and dreamers. Its smoke-filled bars, clubs, and coffee houses overflowed with acoustic guitars, protest songs, and youthful rebellion.
Shortly after a 21-year-old Bob Dylan arrived in the city, Terri Thal became his first manager. She was already managing her husband, Dave Van Ronk—later dubbed the “Mayor of MacDougal Street”—and would go on to work with artists such as Maggie and Terre Roche, Paul Geremia, and the Holy Modal Rounders. In one of her most historically significant contributions, she recorded Dylan performing six songs at the Gaslight Café in September 1961—what would become known as “Bob Dylan’s first demo tape.” That tape was the first step that propelled the “complete unknown” into national consciousness.
She even reflects on the one that got away. Thal had a chance to manage James Taylor, but she turned him down. “He was just starting out,” she reminisces. “I thought he’d probably become very good, but he wasn’t making the kind of music that excited me then, and I could only work with musicians who did.”
We'll be joined by Matheis who interviewed her for The Inspirational Art Group. Frank Matheis is a music, arts and culture writer and a contributing writer to the Inspiration Art Group International. His two current book projects are titled “Outrage Channeled in Verse – American Protest Songs in the Trump Era,” and “Rooted in Wonder – My Journey from Earth Child to Naturalist” with Jenny Richards. He is also a contributing writer to Living Blues magazine (Center for Southern Culture Studies) and the publisher/editor of thecountryblues.com. Frank was formerly an award-winning radio producer. He is also a published photographer, curator and video producer.
Terri’s piece on the Rock and the Beat Generation Substack:
https://simonwarner.substack.com/p/terri-thal-2-that-dylan-movie
Frank’s Piece on Terri
https://inspirationartgroup.org/essays/terri-thal/
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Welcome to an all-new episode of the Swimming Upstream Radio Show. Dorothy's guest this week is Sandra Solon — The Crafty Canadian. Dorothy and she talk about her recent trip to India, all the things you didn’t know about tea, and ideas for summer crafts for your family.
And don't forget to subscribe to the Swimming Upstream Radio Show. You can find us on our website at SwimmingUpstreamRadioShow.com, YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Welcome to an all-new episode of the Swimming Upstream Radio Show. Dorothy's guest this week is Regina Carey.
As the "Queen of Action" and a seasoned advocate for professionals with invisible disabilities, Regina specializes in reigniting passion within hearts that may have temporarily forgotten to focus on themselves and their dreams. Whether you're living with ADHD, chronic pain, anxiety, or learning disabilities, she helps you rediscover your values, recognize your strengths, and embrace your unique self.
And don't forget to subscribe to the Swimming Upstream Radio Show. You can find us on our website at SwimmingUpstreamRadioShow.com, YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Welcome to an all-new episode of the Swimming Upstream Radio Show. This week as usual on Generation Gap, Dorothy talks to Ray Miller Still. He is the editor of The Courier Herald.
And don't forget to subscribe to the Swimming Upstream Radio Show. You can find us on our website at SwimmingUpstreamRadioShow.com, YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Welcome to this all-new episode of Dorothy Wilhelm's Swimming Upstream Radio Show. Dorothy's guest this week is dynamic communications expert Rebecca P. Murray. As the founder of her own podcast, Showcase Your Shine in the Northwest, Rebecca is passionate about transforming team dynamics by refining the art of listening, presenting, and facilitating.
She'll share what she's learned about the power of your voice - and Folger's coffee. Find her on her website at rebeccapmurray.com or on LinkedIn.
And don't forget to subscribe to the Swimming Upstream Radio Show. You can find us on our website at SwimmingUpstreamRadioShow.com, YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Host: DOROTHY WILHELM - Dorothy Wilhelm is a columnist, humorist, speaker and broadcaster who has entertained audiences from Bangkok to Nashville for more than four decades. Dorothy hosted Beacon Award winning My Home Town on Comcast TV and for the past decade has hosted Swimming Upstream Radio Show on the SOB Radio network. (That stands for Spunky Old Broads.) www.swimmingupstreamradioshow.com
CLIMB EVERY MOUNTAIN - PART 2
Executive Coach Reginaa Perry and author Joyce Perrin talk about their successful climbs of Macchu Piccu and Kilimanjaro. What the learned from it, and would they do it again?
At least one of the climbers says NO.
#mountainclimber, #livestrong, #mountaineer, #alpinism, #adventure, #climbingliife
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Host: DOROTHY WILHELM - Dorothy Wilhelm is a columnist, humorist, speaker and broadcaster who has entertained audiences from Bangkok to Nashville for more than four decades. Dorothy hosted Beacon Award winning My Home Town on Comcast TV and for the past decade has hosted Swimming Upstream Radio Show on the SOB Radio network. (That stands for Spunky Old Broads.) www.swimmingupstreamradioshow.com
CLIMB EVERY MOUNTAIN - PART 1
Executive Coach Regina Carey climbed Macchu Piccu this summer. She got help and advice from Joyce Perrin, now 87 who climbed Mt. Kilimanjaro twenty years ago.
in Part 1, they talk about the preparation and how they helped each other.
#mountainclimber, #livestrong, #mountaineer, #alpinism, #adventure, #climbingliife
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Don't Mess With My Summer Vacation
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USTICE RICHARD GUY analyzes the first Presidential Debate
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DOROTHY WILHELM - Dorothy Wilhelm is a columnist, humorist, speaker and broadcaster who has entertained audiences from Bangkok to Nashville for more than four decades. Dorothy hosted Beacon Award winning My Home Town on Comcast TV and for the past decade has hosted Swimming Upstream Radio Show on the SOB Radio network. (That stands for Spunky Old Broads.) www.swimmingupstreamradioshow.com
WHAT'S HAPPENED TO KIDS TODAY?
Coach Jim Johnson shares his experience working with teens.
#troubledteens, #teenmentalhealth, #selfcare, #kids, #raisingteens
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Generation Gap –
Ray Miller Still – [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])
How the Generations are pushing each other apart.
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Host: DOROTHY WILHELM - Dorothy Wilhelm is a columnist, humorist, speaker and broadcaster who has entertained audiences from Bangkok to Nashville for more than four decades. Dorothy hosted Beacon Award winning My Home Town on Comcast TV and for the past decade has hosted Swimming Upstream Radio Show on the SOB Radio network. (That stands for Spunky Old Broads.) www.swimmingupstreamradioshow.com
- GENERATION GAP– LET ME GIVE YOU SOME GOOD ADVICE
Ray Miller Still with Coach Jim Johnson, how meaningful advice changes as the generations change. Including advice from Dorothy's son and grandson.
#generationaladvice, #stayinyourlane, #intergenertinaladvice, #communicate, #advice
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Great ideas for summer fun with the Kids - Grandma's Roundtable
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-Traveling - having fun - with disabilities - Let's visit Grandma! Safe Fun Travel with Handicaps or Health Conditions
Marjorie Turner Hollman - [email protected] -
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WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING AT THE TRUMP TRIAL
JUSTICE RICHARD GUY AND HISTORIAN BIL NELSON ANALYZE WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING AT THE TRUMP TRIAL
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COWBOY ART IS ALIVE AND WELL AND LIVING IN PUYALLUP, WA Joella Oldfield [email protected]: (253)241-3254
Joella Oldfield of the Fred Oldfield Western Heritage Center, talks about the trend toward rediscovering Western Art.
10:50 Standing Patt - Dr. Patt Schwab - How to Keep Abreast of [email protected]) Phone: 206-525-1031
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Generation Gap –
Ray Miller Still – [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) Phone: (360)802-8220 The Drug Problem. It's even worse than you thought.
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THE GIRLS FROM LIBBY
Marcia Tomlin and Dorothy meet 80 years after growing up in two tiny neighboring Montana Towns. Marcia's Hometown destroyed Dorothy's Hometown, but we shouldn't get too spunup in that.
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