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Clint recently interviewed Amanda Holmes, the CEO of Chet Holmes International, to discuss her incredible journey from being a singer-songwriter to leading a renowned sales and marketing training company. Amanda shares her personal story of inheriting the company at the age of 24 after her father's passing and how she managed to increase leads by 1176% in her first year as CEO.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction and Amanda's Background
00:21 - Transition to CEO of Chet Holmes International
01:03 - Battling Adversity and Taking Over the Company
01:50 - Hurricane Alert and Amanda's Dedication
02:31 - Achievements as CEO
03:03 - Key Strategies for Success
04:02 - Condolences and Personal Connection to Cancer
04:33 - Overview of Chet Holmes International
05:03 - Business Success Statistics
05:28 - Skills for Scaling a Business
06:11 - Mastery and Focus in Business
06:52 - Essential Business Skills
07:03 - Time Management Secrets
07:24 - Identifying Quality Clients
07:45 - Effective Messaging in Marketing
08:28 - Importance of Buying the Book
08:41 - Impact of AI on Sales
09:25 - Human Element in AI-Driven Sales
11:25 - Increasing Importance of Human Connection
12:37 - Amanda's Daily Routine and Time Management
16:43 - Keynotes and Training Events
18:29 - Final Thoughts and Gratitude
19:09 - Acknowledging Support and Guidance -
In this episode, Clint sits down with Mike, the CEO and founder of Brightwave, to explore the revolutionary impact of artificial intelligence on investment research. Brightwave is an innovative platform that leverages AI to enhance human cognition and streamline investment workflows. Mike shares his journey, insights, and the future of AI in trading and investment.
Timestamps:
00:09 - Introduction and Background of Mike and Brightwave
00:30 - Overview of Brightwave's AI-Powered Investment Research
01:12 - Human Judgment vs. AI in Investment Decisions
02:04 - Market Efficiency and AI Limitations
03:00 - Historical Comparison: Accountants and Computational Spreadsheets
04:11 - Mike's Career and Decision to Found Brightwave
06:00 - Early Work with Language Models and Databricks
07:02 - Open Source vs. Closed Source AI Debate
09:14 - Future of AI: Agentic Tool Use and Long-Term Predictions
11:59 - AI's Impact on Employment and Professional Work
13:01 - Future of Trading Platforms in the Age of AI
14:49 - Rise of Retail Trading and Democratization of Technology
16:00 - Disillusionment and the American Dream
17:08 - A Day in the Life of Brightwave's CEO
19:41 - Mike's Reading Preferences and Recommendations
20:47 - Mental Health and Loneliness in Entrepreneurship
23:42 - Importance of Human Connection in the Age of AI
24:31 - Building and Defining Company Culture at Brightwave
27:23 - Staying Motivated as a CEO
29:20 - Decision to Work In-Person vs. Remote
30:44 - Preparing for 2025 and Capital Efficiency
31:57 - Reflecting on Who Gave Mike a Chance
33:02 - Shoutout to Investors and Closing Remarks -
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In this episode of the CEO Podcast, Clint sits down with Anushka, the CEO of Nanit, to discuss how their groundbreaking smart baby monitor is transforming the parenting experience. Nanit’s Pro Camera uses advanced computer vision technology to provide parents with personalized insights and smart alerts on their child's sleep, breathing, speech, and developmental milestones.
Anushka shares the inspiring story behind Nanit, founded by two dads who wanted to leverage their expertise in computer vision to help parents get more sleep. She also delves into her own journey from working at Rent the Runway to leading Nanit, and how her passion for consumer technology and data-rich businesses has driven her career.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:09 - Anushka’s background and journey to Nanit
00:23 - Overview of Nanit’s smart baby monitor
01:05 - The benefits of better sleep for families
01:21 - How Nanit’s technology works
02:06 - The founding story of Nanit
02:28 - Anushka’s career at Rent the Runway
03:23 - The challenges of modern parenting
04:01 - The future of AI in consumer tech
06:29 - Integrating AI in product and business operations
07:41 - Expanding Nanit’s technology beyond baby monitoring
08:44 - A day in the life of a CEO
09:40 - Reading recommendations
10:55 - Building company culture and hybrid work models
12:37 - The importance of in-person collaboration
14:07 - The state of consumer tech and economic outlook
17:28 - Balancing product development and customer feedback
19:07 - Staying grounded as a leader
20:05 - The role of empathy in leadership
21:25 - The importance of giving and receiving opportunities -
In this episode of the CEO Podcast, Clint sits down with RJ Pittman, the Chairman and CEO of Matterport. RJ shares his incredible journey through the tech industry, from his early days in startups to holding key positions at Google, Apple, and eBay. Discover how his passion for technology and real estate led him to Matterport, a company revolutionizing the way we interact with physical spaces through 3D digital twins.
Timestamps:
00:09 - Introduction to RJ Pittman
00:21 - RJ's impressive resume in tech
00:53 - RJ's early entrepreneurial journey
02:48 - Full circle experience at Apple
05:00 - The rapid advancement of technology
06:26 - The resilience of Silicon Valley
09:09 - The importance of Silicon Valley for startups
14:43 - What is Matterport?
20:14 - The growth and impact of Matterport
24:44 - Utilizing AI and spatial data at Matterport
30:12 - The importance of customer interaction
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Clint recently sat down with Katy Carrigan, the CEO of Goody, a groundbreaking gifting platform that has revolutionized the way we celebrate and appreciate each other, both personally and professionally. Katie shares her journey from joining Goody as Head of Sales to becoming the CEO, and how the company pivoted from a consumer-focused app to a robust B2B platform.
Timestamps:
00:09 - Introduction and Background
00:22 - Origin of Goody
01:06 - Pivot to B2B
01:50 - Transition to CEO
03:01 - Platform Tweaks and Growth
03:45 - Preparing for Holiday Season
05:40 - Secret Santa and Creative Uses
07:54 - A Day in the Life of a CEO
09:16 - AI Integration and Efficiency
10:43 - Product Selection Criteria
12:01 - Leadership Lessons
13:27 - Personal Life and Decompression
14:06 - Navigating Macroeconomic Trends
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In this episode, Clint chats with Gary Hoberman, the CEO and founder of Uncork, about his remarkable journey from Wall Street to revolutionizing software development with a no-code platform. Gary shares his insights on the challenges of maintaining legacy systems and how Uncork aims to eliminate technical debt, allowing businesses to create applications that continuously improve without the burden of maintenance. He discusses the importance of democratizing technology for entrepreneurs and startups, the latest innovations from Uncork, and the personal experiences that shaped his entrepreneurial spirit.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to Gary and Uncork
00:19 - Gary's Engineering Background
01:02 - Corporate Journey on Wall Street
02:04 - Realization of Legacy Issues
03:49 - Founding Uncork
04:32 - Vision for Software Maintenance
05:16 - Overcoming Legacy System Challenges
06:20 - Removing Barriers to Innovation
08:05 - Uncork's Unique Approach
09:03 - Impact on Major Corporations
10:05 - Open Standards vs. Vendor Lock-in
10:39 - Uncork's Mission-Critical Applications
11:00 - Advice for SaaS CEOs
12:00 - Uncork as an Application Engine
13:04 - No-Code Revolution Explained
14:07 - Building Software Without Code
18:06 - Recent Major Release Overview
19:12 - Implications for Entrepreneurs and Startups
23:04 - Personal Projects and Incubator Initiatives
26:04 - Typical Day in Gary's Life
28:34 - Future Collaboration and Events
29:09 - Acknowledging Influential Figures -
In this exciting episode of the CEO Podcast, Clint sits down with Josh Liss and Rob Bralver, the co-founders of DreamFlare AI, an innovative entertainment platform that merges gaming and storytelling through interactive shows powered by AI. Discover how DreamFlare is revolutionizing the way we consume content, creating a unique space for creators and audiences alike.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to DreamFlare AI
00:20 - What is DreamFlare?
01:31 - Founding Story of DreamFlare
02:42 - Josh's Background and Experience
05:16 - Comparing DreamFlare to Netflix
06:40 - The Future of Content Creation
09:27 - Content Acquisition and IP
10:10 - Differentiating in a Crowded Market
11:00 - Tips for Aspiring Creators
13:19 - Tech Stack for Content Creation
14:33 - DreamFlare's Focus on Interactivity
15:35 - Types of Content: Spins and Flips
18:40 - The Excitement of New Opportunities
20:17 - The Rise of Solo Filmmakers
21:31 - Monetization for Creators
22:46 - The Future of Editing and Production
23:15 - Recommended Content on DreamFlare
25:18 - The Potential for AI-Generated Games
26:12 - The Importance of Creative Skills
29:04 - Vision for the Future of DreamFlare
30:27 - Personal Reflections on Opportunities
31:52 - Closing Thoughts and Future Progress -
In this episode, host Clint Betts sits down with Ryan Westwood, the dynamic CEO of Fullcast, to explore the exhilarating world of entrepreneurship and leadership. After successfully selling his previous company, Simplus, Ryan shares his journey back into the CEO role and the passion that drives him to build something extraordinary.
Timestamps:
00:10 - Being CEO Again and the Thrill of Entrepreneurship
01:40 - The Importance of Values and Passion in Leadership
04:10 - Finding Fullcast: A Focus on Revenue Operations
07:50 - Navigating the Economy and Succeeding in Any Environment
10:25 - Raising Capital to Buy Fullcast
12:30 - Building Long-Term Relationships with Investors
17:40 - The Talented Founding Team at Fullcast
19:15 - Partnering with Epic Ventures
22:30 - Choosing the Right Investors and Avoiding Regret
24:50 - The Sacrifices of Being a Fanatical CEO
29:00 - Finding Balance and Being Present with Family
33:45 - Prioritizing Health as a CEO
38:30 - The Daily Routine of a High-Performing CEO
41:50 - Utah’s Entrepreneurial Shift and the Next Generation of Leaders
45:40 - Utah’s Spirit of Generosity and Community
50:30 - Staying Focused on Mission in a Changing Cultural Landscape
54:00 - Long-Term Vision for Fullcast and Future Goals
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Clint recently sat down with PJ Oleksak, the dynamic CEO of Nuts.com, to explore her incredible journey from investment banking to leading one of the most beloved online snack retailers. PJ shares her unique career path, starting from her early days in finance and private equity, to her transformative roles at FreshDirect and Slice, and finally, her current leadership at Nuts.com.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:09 - PJ's background and journey to Nuts.com
00:45 - The history of Nuts.com
02:08 - Navigating the COVID-19 boom
03:03 - The story behind the Nuts.com domain name
04:01 - PJ's experience at Slice
10:19 - Logistics and operations at Nuts.com
13:00 - New gifting initiative
14:54 - A day in the life of PJ
16:11 - The role of AI at Nuts.com
19:02 - Reading recommendations
21:05 - Thoughts on the macroeconomic environment
23:34 - Building and evolving company culture
27:10 - The importance of giving and receiving chances -
On this episode, Clint sits down with Perkins Miller, the CEO of Fandom.com, to explore the fascinating world of fan communities and the digital platforms that support them. Perkins shares his journey from working at StubHub and the NFL to leading one of the largest fan-centric platforms on the internet.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:28 - Perkins' journey to becoming CEO of Fandom
01:10 - The core of Fandom: 200,000+ wikis and 45 million pages of content
02:16 - Acquisitions and business expansion
03:35 - Building great communities: Shared values and platforms
05:33 - Strengthening community relationships and commerce
08:02 - Revenue model and competitors
09:06 - Unique insights from Fandom's data platform, Fan DNA
11:02 - The impact of AI on Fandom's operations
13:52 - Working with studios and potential for a game studio
16:51 - Perkins' previous roles at StubHub, NFL, and WWE
20:25 - A typical day for Perkins as CEO
22:14 - The future of web traffic and search with AI
25:31 - Perkins' reading recommendations
27:04 - Leadership lessons learned over the years
29:38 - Handling macroeconomic and geopolitical issues as a CEO
32:35 - The importance of giving and taking chances -
In this episode of the CEO Podcast, Clint chats with Catherine Oliver, author of "Working Parents-to-be," and Founder of Bluebell Partnership, about her journey in supporting working parents through parental leave and the transition back to work. Catherine shares her personal experiences, the inspiration behind her book, and insights on the evolving landscape of workplace support for parents, highlighting the differences between the UK and the US. She offers practical advice for leaders on fostering a supportive environment and shares tips for soon-to-be parents on preparing for their new roles. Join us for an enlightening discussion on empathy in leadership and the importance of community during this significant life transition!
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to Catherine and Her Book
00:22 - Overview of "Working Parents-to-be"
01:16 - Cultural Perspectives on Parental Support
03:08 - Catherine's Personal Journey
05:26 - Transitioning from Corporate to Independent Work
06:29 - Supporting Working Parents and Gender Balance
07:14 - Response to the Book's Launch
08:38 - Advice for Business Leaders
11:46 - Guidance for Working Parents
14:30 - The Role of AI in Workplace Support
15:37 - A Day in Katherine's Life
17:04 - Traits of Great Leaders
19:41 - Differences in Leadership Between the UK and US
22:19 - The Political Landscape of Diversity and Inclusion
25:53 - Navigating Political Expectations as a Leader
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In this episode of the CEO Podcast, Clint sits down with Sanjit Biswas, the CEO and founder of Samsara, a company revolutionizing the world of physical operations. Sanjit shares his incredible journey from co-founding Meraki, a Wi-Fi technology company acquired by Cisco, to building Samsara into a publicly traded company with over $1.2 billion in recurring revenue.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to Sanjit and Samsara
00:22 - Overview of Samsara's Mission and Technology
01:13 - Growth and Scale of Samsara
01:27 - Founding Team and Background
02:10 - Transition from Meraki to Samsara
02:52 - Clientele and Focus on Field Operations
03:33 - Insights Gained from Physical Operations
04:21 - Leadership Lessons from Meraki's Sale to Cisco
05:58 - Capital Raising Strategies for Meraki and Samsara
08:34 - Partnering with Top Venture Capital Firms
09:02 - Advice for Entrepreneurs on Securing Funding
10:39 - Decision to Go Public and Its Rationale
12:49 - Management Changes Post-IPO
14:45 - A Day in the Life of Sanjit Biswas
15:59 - Reading Recommendations for Leaders
17:23 - Reflections on Paul Graham's Founder Mode Essay
19:30 - Implementing AI at Samsara
21:07 - Long-term Vision for AI Development
22:57 - Leadership Lessons Learned Over Time
25:00 - Daily Routines and Grounding Activities
26:35 - The CEO's Role in Public Discourse
28:01 - Acknowledging Those Who Gave Opportunities
29:31 - Closing Thoughts and Gratitude -
On this episode of the CEO Podcast, Clint sits down with Nadine Vogel, CEO of Springboard Consulting, to explore her remarkable journey from a senior executive in a Fortune 50 company to leading a global firm that champions disability inclusion in 85 countries. Nadine shares personal stories that fueled her passion, insights on leadership, the impact of AI on disability inclusion, and the unique challenges women face in business, including menopause in the workplace. She also discusses her book "Dive In," her involvement in TV programs, and her continuous learning philosophy.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:20 - Nadine's background and career journey
00:48 - Founding Springboard Consulting
01:56 - Mission and operations of Springboard Consulting
02:26 - Personal motivation and experiences
03:22 - A typical day for Nadine
04:50 - Nadine's reading habits and recommendations
05:45 - Topics of Nadine's speeches
06:20 - The importance of perspective in leadership
07:17 - What makes a great leader
08:56 - Thoughts on AI and its impact on disability inclusion
10:21 - Women Influence and Power Group (WIPP) and women in business
12:58 - Addressing menopause in the workplace
14:06 - What Nadine wishes she had known earlier in her career
15:11 - Nadine's book "Dive In"
16:29 - Nadine's TV programs and educational initiatives
18:29 - Thoughts on the politicization of DEI
21:02 - The importance of recognizing opportunities and gifts
23:32 - Closing remarks -
Clint recently had the opportunity to chat with Rob MacNaughton, the CEO of Calibrate, about the groundbreaking approach his company is taking in the weight loss industry by combining powerful GLP-1 drugs like Wegovy and Ozempic with clinician-led lifestyle interventions. Rob shares insights into the advantages and disadvantages of these medications, the impressive results Calibrate has achieved, and the importance of addressing the root causes of obesity. We also delve into Rob's diverse background, the challenges and benefits of leading a fully remote company, and the role of AI in enhancing member experience and operational efficiency.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:09 - Rob's background and the rise of GLP-1 drugs
01:03 - Calibrate's unique approach to weight loss
02:29 - Impressive results and published data
04:00 - Safety and efficacy of GLP-1 drugs
05:14 - What a typical week looks like for Calibrate members
07:19 - Rob's journey to Calibrate
12:36 - The importance of addressing the root cause of obesity
14:25 - A day in the life of a remote CEO
16:35 - Leadership in a remote environment
19:39 - Talent acquisition in a remote setting
23:00 - The role of AI in Calibrate's operations
26:03 - Long-term planning with AI
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On this episode of the CEO Podcast, Clint sat down with Will Lewis, the CEO of Innsmed, a company dedicated to developing innovative drugs for patients facing serious and rare diseases. Will shares his journey to becoming CEO, the transformative growth of Innsmed, and the intricate process of drug development, including the lengthy timelines and significant financial investments involved. They discuss the importance of patient experience, the ethical considerations in drug development, and the role of artificial intelligence in streamlining processes. Will also offers insights into leadership, mentorship, and the values that drive his team to make a meaningful difference in patients' lives.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to Innsmed and CEO Journey
00:38 - Overview of Innsmed's Mission
01:39 - The Drug Development Process
04:04 - The Necessity of the 15-Year Process
06:38 - Expedited Drug Development During COVID-19
08:12 - Choosing Which Diseases to Target
10:51 - The Future of Curing Diseases
12:55 - The Role of Artificial Intelligence in Drug Development
16:21 - A Day in the Life of the CEO
18:05 - Leadership Philosophy and Values
20:18 - Reading Recommendations
21:22 - Impact of the Macro Economic Environment
24:02 - Financing in the Biotech Industry
27:03 - Intellectual Property and Competition
30:37 - Closing Thoughts on Mentorship and Opportunities -
Clint recently sat down with Derek Robson, the CEO of IDEO, a leading design and innovation company known for its human-centered design approach. In this episode, Derek shares his journey from a 36-year career in advertising to leading one of the most creative companies in the world, discussing how IDEO tackles a wide range of challenges, from designing products and services to reimagining government systems. He highlights the importance of creativity, the eclectic mix of talent at IDEO, and how they cultivate a culture of innovation. We also dive into the impact of AI on design, the evolving role of leadership, and the significance of self-care for executives. Plus, hear Derek's thoughts on the creative environments of London and San Francisco and how they influence the work at IDEO.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to Derek and IDEO
00:20 - IDEO's mission and approach to design
03:15 - Choosing clients and tackling complex problems
05:57 - Hiring and cultivating diverse talent
07:44 - A day in the life of a CEO
09:36 - The role of AI in design
13:10 - Thoughts on leadership and self-leadership
17:14 - The creative environment in London
20:32 - Insights on San Francisco's tech scene
22:40 - Staying grounded as a CEO
25:24 - The macroeconomic environment and corporate responsibility
29:38 - Derek's journey and the importance of giving chances -
On this episode, Clint chats with Andrew Exner, the Executive Director of the San Jose State University Research Foundation, who shares his unconventional journey to this role and the foundation's mission of supporting research through external funding, intellectual property management, and research agreements. Andrew discusses the similarities between running a nonprofit and a for-profit organization, what a typical day looks like in his dynamic environment, and the impact of AI on fundraising and research management. He also addresses the current political climate on college campuses, the ongoing relevance of higher education, and essential leadership traits that have shaped his career.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to Andrew and His Role
00:25 - Andrew's Unique Career Path
01:53 - Overview of the San Jose State University Research Foundation
04:11 - Comparing Nonprofits and For-Profit Companies
05:42 - A Day in the Life of Andrew
07:55 - The Impact of AI on Research and Fundraising
12:20 - Political Climate on College Campuses
15:11 - Reading Preferences and Recommendations
17:52 - Key Leadership Traits
21:33 - Thoughts on the Current Economic and Political Environment
26:14 - Opportunities Given by Others
29:22 - Conclusion and Closing Remarks -
On this episode of the CEO Podcast, Clint chats with Rockwell Shah, the CEO of Ozlo Sleep, about his incredible journey from a remote tech support agent to leading a company focused on innovative sleep solutions. Rockwell shares the story behind the Ozlo Sleep Buds, a revolutionary product designed to enhance sleep quality by blocking out noise and streaming audio. He discusses the success of their crowdfunding campaign, the challenges of hardware manufacturing, and the importance of customer feedback in product development. Additionally, Rockwell reflects on his personal experiences, including the joys of fatherhood and the impact of macroeconomic conditions on consumer products. Join us for an insightful conversation filled with valuable lessons for entrepreneurs and tech enthusiasts alike!
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to Rockwell and Oswell Sleep
00:20 - Rockwell's Journey to CEO
01:02 - Transition from B2B to Consumer Apps
01:56 - The Bose Sleepbuds Experience
02:52 - Acquisition of Bose's IP
03:57 - The Importance of Sleep and Snoring Solutions
05:02 - Consumer Trends in Sleep Products
06:57 - Success of the Relaunched Sleepbuds
07:47 - Advantages of Crowdfunding
08:12 - Crowdfunding as a Pre-Order Campaign
11:52 - Using Both Kickstarter and Indiegogo
13:13 - Challenges of Hardware Development
15:15 - The Complexity of Manufacturing
16:33 - Navigating Supply Chain Issues
19:02 - The Iterative Process of Product Development
20:29 - The Risks of Hardware Startups
21:25 - Customer Usage Patterns
24:27 - Daily Life and Work Balance
27:02 - The Joys of Fatherhood
28:35 - Information Consumption Preferences
30:35 - The State of E-Commerce and Consumer Products
36:07 - The Importance of Community Support
39:32 - Conclusion and Future Outlook -
Clint recently sat down with Sanish Mondkar, the CEO of Legion Technologies, to explore the transformative world of workforce management. With over 20 years of experience in enterprise software, Sanish shares his journey from being the Chief Product Officer at SAP to founding Legion, a platform dedicated to enhancing the experiences of frontline workers across various industries such as retail, hospitality, healthcare, and manufacturing.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to Legion Technologies
00:18 - What Legion Does
01:26 - Sanish's Background and Journey
03:16 - Experience at SAP
03:43 - Recent Funding Round
05:24 - Growth Strategies for Legion
08:10 - A Day in the Life of a CEO 1
0:21 - Thoughts on Artificial Intelligence
15:07 - Leadership in the Age of AI
19:40 - Reading Recommendations
21:19 - Maintaining Mental Health
24:13 - Navigating the Macroeconomic Environment
27:15 - The Importance of Giving Chances -
On this episode of the CEO Podcast, Clint sits down with Aaron Boyd, a leader in digital transformation and remote work, who shares his journey from Utah to various global destinations, including the Pacific Islands and Latin America. Aaron discusses the importance of creating opportunities for individuals to thrive in their home communities, rather than feeling compelled to relocate to major cities for success. He highlights his work with Welchman Keen, a global consulting firm focused on connecting unconnected communities and fostering innovation, while also addressing the challenges faced by individuals in remote areas, such as accessing essential services and education.
Clint and Aaron explore the impact of AI on job creation, the significance of cultural understanding in developing countries, and the role of benefit corporations in promoting social good. Join us for this insightful conversation about the future of work, the power of technology to empower people, and the universal human experiences that connect us all.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction and Personal Background
02:29 - Global Operations and Projects
04:45 - The Digital Nomad Lifestyle
07:56 - AI's Impact on Future Employment
12:47 - Cultural Perspectives in AI Development
14:07 - Understanding Benefit Corporations
16:05 - Singapore as a Business Hub
18:24 - Supporting Local Leaders in Communities
22:41 - Bridging the Connectivity Gap
26:27 - Common Human Experiences Across Cultures
28:32 - Conclusion and Acknowledgments - もっと表示する
