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We’re diving into the fascinating connections between hip hop and its diverse cultural influences.
We explore how these genres have helped shape hip hop’s evolution, pointing out the back-and-forth nature of the genre and its ties to dancehall & West Indian music. There's also a focus on the powerful impact of jazz and funk on hip hop, with legends like James Brown playing a major role.
Plus, we touch on the rising influence of Desi hip hop and the longstanding collaborations between rap and rock, showing just how much these blended sounds have defined today’s music.
There is also a strong relationship between rock and hip hop, the evolution of different music styles, and how Afrobeat is shaping UK hip hop.
We also get into the significance of mosh pits in hip hop culture as well as talk about artists like J Hus, and look ahead to the future of Afrobeat in the music scene.
Songs played this episode
Caribbean (Neil)
Bad Boyz (feat. Barrington Levy) - Shyne
India (Kiran)
Big Dawgs - Hanumankind & Kalmi
Jazz/Funk (Sam)
Funky Drummer (Bonus Beat Reprise) - James Brown
Rap-Rock (Sean)
Empty Vessels (Official Video) (feat. Roots Manuva) - The Maccabees
Afrobeats (Theo)
Bouff Daddy - J Hus
Key Topics
Hip hop has deep roots in Caribbean culture, particularly reggae and dancehall.The iterative nature of hip hop allows it to evolve and incorporate various influences over time.Grime music has significant connections to dancehall, often drawing inspiration from its rhythms and styles.Caribbean music has had a lasting impact on pop culture, often influencing mainstream music trends.Indian music and culture are increasingly influencing hip hop, with a growing number of artists emerging from the Desi scene.Jazz and funk have played a crucial role in shaping the sound and style of hip hop.James Brown is one of the most sampled artists in hip hop, showcasing the genre's reliance on funk and soul.The collaboration between rap and rock has a rich history, with many iconic moments in music history.Artists like MIA and Jay Sean have successfully blended their cultural backgrounds with hip hop.The cyclical nature of music means that influences from the past continue to resurface in contemporary sounds. The crossover between rock and hip hop has a rich history.Iconic collaborations like Jay-Z and Linkin Park set a precedent.Mosh pits have become a significant part of hip hop culture.Afrobeat is increasingly influencing UK hip hop artists.J Hus is seen as a pioneer in bringing African sounds to UK rap.The music scene is evolving with new artists emerging.There is a nostalgic appreciation for past collaborations.The impact of live instruments is returning to hip hop.The conversation reflects on the changing nature of music consumption.Future collaborations may redefine genre boundaries.
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It’s release recap time and this month we are discussing Kendrick Lamar's new track and its cultural implications, the allegations against Diddy and the industry's complicity, the evolution of hip-hop album structures, LL Cool J's recent album, Alchemist's rapping skills, and Nines' retirement.
Watching the Party Die:
A few months on from the Drake v. Kendrick beef, and in light of the recent news regarding Diddy, are we witnessing a shift in the culture?Releases:
LL Cool J - THE FORCEThe Alchemist - The Genuine ArticulateNines - Quit While You’re Aheadhttps://open.spotify.com/playlist/1YuSzuqvIAdY2vCgx47Moa?si=86e0d067d2304512
Other Projects Released:
Talib Kweli & J. Rawls - The Confidence of KnowingBlu & Exile - Love (the) Ominous WorldFuture - Mixtape Pluto
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We break down how certain artists like The Notorious B.I.G., Tyler, The Creator, and Lupe Fiasco have stood the test of time, analysing their impact and evolution.
We discuss timeless projects like Lupe’s The Cool and Big Sean’s Detroit, and dive into the UK rap scene with legends like Kano, Wretch 32, and J Hus.
We also debate the “top five” rappers, Big Sean's longevity, and Nas’ resurgence with the King’s Disease & Magic Series.
Join us as we discover which hip-hop tracks truly remain classics and why.
Key Takeaways
Aging in music is not just about the artists getting older, but also about the lasting impact and relevance of the music over time.
Hip hop artists like The Notorious B.I.G., Tyler, The Creator, and Lupe Fiasco have created music that has aged well and still resonates with listeners today.
The content, production, and concepts of the music contribute to its ability to stand the test of time.
The conversation highlights the importance of considering both the influence and the aging of music when evaluating its longevity. Lupe Fiasco's 'The Cool' and Big Sean's 'Detroit' are albums that have aged well in hip-hop.
The hosts discuss the impact and quality of these projects, highlighting standout tracks and the artists' lyrical abilities.
Mixtapes played a significant role in discovering new artists and exploring different sounds in the hip-hop genre.
The conversation also touches on the evolution of the UK rap scene and its influence on the global hip-hop landscape.
Certain songs have a timeless quality that resonates with listeners even years after their release. Big Sean's mixtape 'Finally Famous Vol. 3' has aged well and continues to be appreciated by listeners.
Big Sean has been consistent in releasing great projects throughout his career.
The hosts debate the 'big three' in hip-hop and discuss the importance of consistency in an artist's career.
Nas' 'King's Disease' series showcases his revitalized career and creative artistry. Certain artists and albums in hip hop age well and become instant classics.
The UK rap scene has produced artists who have aged well and continue to make great music.
Not all hip hop music will stand the test of time, but there will always be standout artists and albums that resonate with future generations.
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https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4nX7JGSrzQRi8nRpt1VOOW?si=df0c1a8cc2264c89
JPEGMAFIA - I LAY DOWN MY LIFE FOR YOU (1 Aug):
Is Peggy the best Hip-Hop producer working today?Big Sean - Better Me Than You (30 Aug):
Considering the sales and some of the responses from fans, why do we think Sean’s music isn’t quite connecting with the masses? Lack of volume/consistency, leaving GOOD Music…Honourable Mentions:
Navy Blue - Memoirs in Armour (2 Aug)
Killer Mike - Songs For Sinners & Saints (2 Aug)
Mavi - Shadowbox (9 Aug)
Larry June - Doing It for Me (9 Aug)
Logic
Ka - The Thief Next to Jesus (19 Aug)
Doechii - Alligator Bites Never Heal (30 Aug)
Singles - plug the playlist
Most Anticipated (Sept):
A$AP Rocky - Don’t Be Dumb (TBC)
Future - Mixtape Pluto (this Friday)
Blu & Exile - Love (the) Ominous World
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Another episode of GOAT Talks for your head top! This time, we are talking about the crazy freestyles from the LA Leakers series.
Standout performances, legendary bars, and why these moments are a must-listen. If you’re all about hearing rap at it's highest level, raw talent and high energy, this episode is a must listen!
Our LA Leakers Picks
Neil:
Cordae - https://youtu.be/kvNgwgyidpY?si=WQ2ZJLmooPhzeYyd
Daylyt - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvAArR14fno
Kiran:
J. Cole - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlpN3S16ZAs
Freddie Gibbs (ft. his son) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTKoeyLEU8U
Theo:
Ray Vaughan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBEtnyz2efE
King Los - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLwXCDRuIyw
Sam:
Common - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1vn073F1aM
Benny - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWStKcaJyYU
Sean:
Vince Staples - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TR0BO-hfEw
Royce - https://youtu.be/XXi629ypSwY?si=IqXwUUF5fiido58b
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July has been a crazy month for the Hip Hop scene!
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6kdIfmXPs0FLuZ0WjgnZo0?si=BRcYgsH1SN-feAbyq-FWYg&pi=e-h9Ae4bGhQ0Os
This episode, we discuss Eminem's and Childish Gambino's latest albums, offering mixed reviews on both. We dive into the tension between Drake and Childish Gambino, praise Wretch 32's most recent freestyle, and appreciate Bashy's authentic album that represents the UK scene so well. Excitement for upcoming releases from Big Sean and Tory Lanez are high at the time of recording!
Takeaways
Opinions on Eminem's album vary, with some finding it an improvement and others feeling it is average and out of touch
Childish Gambino's album is seen as experimental and explores different styles and influences
The concept and themes of Childish Gambino's album are intriguing, but the execution is debated
Specific tracks from both albums are highlighted as favourites
There are references and potential diss tracks towards Drake in Childish Gambino's album There may be tension between Drake and Childish Gambino due to jealousy and competition.
Wretch 32's freestyle showcases his talent and ability to connect with his audience.
Bashy's album, 'Being Poor Is Expensive,' is a must-listen and provides a view into British culture.
There is a lot of great music coming out of the UK, with artists like Dee Riginal, Name Bliss, Potter Payper, and Central C gaining popularity.
Various singles and albums they have been enjoying, including tracks by Meg Thee Stallion, Cordae, Lil Wayne, and Action Bronson.
The unique style and storytelling abilities of UK artists, as well as the energy and production quality of international artists.
Common, noting that his conscious style may not appeal to mainstream audiences as much as other genres.
Reflect on the changing landscape of music and how the collective consciousness has shifted towards more explicit and dark themes.
Big Sean's upcoming album is highly anticipated and his recent freestyle has generated excitement
Tory Lanez's upcoming project, 'Prison Tapes', is expected to be impactful
Flavor Flav is recognized as a talented musician, playing multiple instruments
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We are back for the fourth time with more of our favourite posse cuts!
Some modern classics and some old school bangers too!
The picks
Kiran Westside Gun's 'Red Death.'
Theo - 'John Blaze'
Sean - 'Blow Your Trumpet,
Sam - Denzel Curry's 'Ain't No Way'
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June 2024 Playlist https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3tvcPTZdmoBI7YX2GZaleo?si=455ed5a9c4e94c7b
Order of play:
Discuss top, recurring picksHighlight some of our individual, non-recurring selectionsKendrick Lamar's performance ‘The Pop Out: Ken & Friends’ concert in Los AngelesMore Drake Vs. Kendrick Talk (sorry it's still going on)Touch upon this weekend’s/June’s releases - KAYTRANADA, Action Bronson, MAVi Album pending?, The return of Chip?, Central Cee is Versatile?Glastonbury 2024 (Right at the end)Other:
Share some of our favourite non-rap albums of the year so farMost anticipated for the remainder of the year (e.g. Em, Bashy, Common & Pete Rock, Denzel Curry, Mustard, Rakim, A$AP Rocky…)Our top 5s:
Sam:
1. Vince Staples - Dark Times
2. Mach-Hommy - #RICHAXXHAITIAN
3. Don Toliver - HARDSTONE PSYCHO
4. ScHoolboy Q - BLUE LIPS
5. Big Hit, Hit-Boy & The Alchemist - Black & Whites
Sean:
1. Mach-Hommy - #RICHAXXHAITIAN
2. ScHoolboy Q - BLUE LIPS
3. Vince Staples - Dark Times
4. Nicholas Craven & Boldy James - Penalty of Leadership
5. Boldy James & Conductor Williams - Across the Tracks
Kiran:
1. Lupe Fiasco - Samurai
2. Mach-Hommy - #RICHAXXHAITIAN
3. Boldy James & Conductor Williams - Across the Tracks
4. Vince Staples - Dark Times
5. ScHoolboy Q - BLUE LIPS
Theo:
1. Mach-Hommy - #RICHAXXHAITIAN
2. ScHoolboy Q - BLUE LIPS
3. Vince Staples - Dark Times
4. Nicholas Craven & Boldy James - Penalty of Leadership
5. Big Hit, Hit-Boy & The Alchemist - Black & Whites
Neil:
1. J. Cole - Might Delete Later
2. Tierra Whack - World Wide Wack
3. Mach-Hommy - #RICHAXXHAITIAN
4. Ghetts - On Purpose, with Purpose
5. ScHoolboy Q - BLUE LIPS
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Despite the ease and affordability of streaming, why do we still purchase physicals, merchandise, attend live shows etc?
We discuss James Blake’s comments, the ‘Living Wage for Musicians’ act, Vultures 2 release etc. as well as address the impact of TikTok, social media in general, and on-demand services on our attention span, and the impact this has on the quality and quantity of music.
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https://open.spotify.com/playlist/78Cqzayx8dw1q8vp57tRIB?si=f17bb37a9e7748a4
Featured Albums Discussed:
Mach-Hommy - #RichAxxHaition (17 May) Rapsody - Please Don't Cry (17 May) Vince Staples - Dark Times (24 May)Honourable Mentions (albums):
Conway the Machine - SFK Bugzy Malone - THE GREAT BRITISH DREAM Chief Keef - Almighty So 2 M Huncho & Potter Payper - 36 Hours Ghostface Killah - Set the Tone (Guns & Roses) Childish Gambino - Atavista Black & Whites - Hit-Boy The Alchemist
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What's our earliest memories of recognising adlibs and appreciating them?
When and how did adlibs become such a prevalent part of the craft?
Are producer-tags also adlibs?
What are some of our favourite adlibs?
Origins:
Touch on the likes of James Brown and Michael Jackson Call and response / MCs and their hype men or DUs
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meet the grey area
Recap the events since 3 May:
Kendrick Lamar – 6:16 in LADrake – Buried Alive Interlude, Pt. 2Drake – Family MattersKendrick Lamar – meet the grahamsKendrick Lamar – Not Like UsDrake – The Heart Part 6Has it gone too far, and has the beef changed the way we look at both artists?
Is this feud good or bad for Hip-Hop?
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The month of April was engulfed by the ever-escalating beef between Drake and Kendrick Lamar. Joined by our first ever special guest, we breakdown the timeline of events that followed Kendrick’s verse on Future and Metro Boomin’s ‘Like That’.
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1Jz6DOwDMRQT7GnCVjPeN4?si=848809a1dfa14d69
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We are back with more of our favourite posse cuts! Some modern classics, some new? well we think they're new and not AI artists?
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What a month March has been Kendrick’s feature on ‘Like That’
Why now, and why Cole?ScHoolboy Q - Blue Lips
Did Hip-Hop need this album?Tierra Whack - World Wide Whack
Was this worth the wait?Future & Metro Boomin - We Don’t Trust You
Feuds aside, how we feeling about this one?Don't be a bum listen to our playlist of what we were listening to in March!
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4eCUJaUAnJJReyGVnJ1cVo?si=5f334aa7c7f04ad7
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Do industry plants exist? We explore the fine line between industry-backed success stories and genuine grassroots growth, looking at artists who might be made by the labels as opposed to found by them. This episode sheds light on the implications for authenticity, opportunity, and how the concept shapes our view of the music landscape.
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It's release recap time! There's so much music that we didn't get to discuss that we've included a list of all the music we've listened to that came out in Feb
Ghetts – On Purpose, With Purpose (23 Feb)
¥$ - Vultures 1 (10 Feb):
Little Simz – Drop 7 EP (9 Feb):
Standout Singles
ScHoolboy Q’s Blue Lips rolloutJ. Cole – Might Delete Later, Vol. 1Stove God Cooks – Melo Chip and a BrickSkrapz – Rocking Chair, and IntroMIKE – R&B (feat. Tony Seltzer)Tierra Whack – 27 CLUBConway the Machine – Vertino (feat. Joey Bada$$)Blanco – Let Me Go/ProtagonistRed Bull Spiral Freestyle (IDK, Mick Jenkins & Saba)Ray Vaughn – Problems (feat. Pusha T)Free Nationals – GANG$TA (feat. A$AP Rocky)Harry Fraud & Ransom – Live from the Roxy (feat. Boldy James)billy woods features and new Armand Hammer track, ‘Doves’Headie One - SocialsHonourable Mentions
Potter Payper – Thanks for Hating (23 Feb)EarthGang & Spillage Village – Robophonia (23 Feb)Conway the Machine & Big Ghost Ltd – Speshal Machinary: The Ghronic… (16 Feb)Dizzee Rascal – Don’t Take it Personal (9 Feb)Cookin’ Soul & Tha God Fahim – Supreme Dump Legend… (1 Feb)Hit-Boy & The Alchemist’s EP (1 Feb)
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The Barbs in us are out in this episode as we discuss Nicki Minaj's discography!
One of the greatest rappers of our time and still able to drop fire verses after well over a decade in the game.
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We are back with another release recap covering all the latest hip hop releases from Jan 2024!
From 21 Savage's new vibes to Tierra Whack's experimental sounds. We are also asking whether Dave could be the first to break out globally - his lyrical lemonade track with Jack Harlow could be the start of it.
We talk about on the latest beef between Nicki Minaj and Meg the Stallion and music from other genres we've been enjoying too.
Other topics include:
New Albums
Benny the butcher
Kid cudi
Songs
Ice Spice
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GOAT Talk is back, this time spotlighting the ultimate Funk Flex freestyles. Brace yourself for a deep dive into the most iconic and explosive performances ever to hit the legendary show that is Funk Flex.
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