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Finally, after a long break, Waves Breaking returns with this interview with Kamden Ishmael Hilliard. Kam generously shares their time with me to discuss their debut book of poems, MissSettl, out last year with Nightboat Books. We go in deep to discuss their thoughts around the sentence, modes of speech, writing poems within this current era of late-stage capitalism, and teaching students.
Kamden Ishmael Hilliard was born in La Jolla, CA; their fam settled on O'ahu, Hawai'i. Kamden holds a BA in American Studies from the University of Hawai'i at Mānoa and an MFA in Poetry from the Iowa Writers' Workshop. Kamden, a nonbinary Black settler who goes by Kam, works on issues of surveillance, race, queerness, contemporary art and American politics. They're thankful for support from The National YoungArts Foundation, The Davidson Institute, Sarah Lawrence College, and The UCROSS Foundation. Kam’s writing appears in West Branch, The Black Warrior Review, Tagvverk, Denver Quarterly, The Columbia Review, and other publications.
Formerly, they served as an AmeriCorps VISTA, held Maytag, Teaching-Writing, and Pfluflaught Fellowships at the University of Iowa, and were the 2020-2022 Anisfield-Wolf Fellow in Publishing and Writing at the Cleveland State University Poetry Center, a reader at Flypaper Lit, and a board member at VIDA: Women In Literary Arts.
Kamden's websiteKamden's Instagram
Go buy MissSettl!
Mentioned in the interview:
Joyelle McSweeney
Jayson P. Smith
“Poem About My Rights” by June Jordan
bell hooks
Hoodie Allen (I’m sorry lol)
Skee-Lo
Punahou School Hawaii
Iowa Writers Workshop and the Cold War
James Baldwin
Nene (bird)
The nene population is on the rebound from its endangered status
Beloved by Toni Morrison
Huge plug for everyone to listen to the audiobook version of Beloved read by Toni Morrison herself. Find it on Libby!
Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson
Who Framed Roger Rabbit? (film)
My poem with Judge Doom in it is “After Saturn Ate His Own Kid” at the bottom of this page.
West Side Story (film)
Goodbye, Vitamin by Rachel Khong
Kam’s Anti-recommendations:
Apocalypse Now (film)
The Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad
The Sandman (TV series)
This show's Editor and Social Media Manager is Mitchel Davidovitz.
The Sound of Waves Breaking is a clip of my cousin Ian and me (fake band name: Diminutive Denizens) doing a cover of “Dig My Grave” by They Might Be Giants. It’s on this cover album of Apollo 18 if you want to listen to the whole thing. There are a bunch of other covers you can listen to there for free, including a very dumb skit my friend Greg and I did for one of the “Fingertips.” Greg’s the host of the excellent podcast This Might Be a Podcast which I’ve also guested on many times. Check it out!
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Photo of Yanyi, taken by him
In this episode I spoke with Yanyi about his new book, Dream of the Divided Field, and his newsletter, The Reading.
Yanyi is the author of Dream of the Divided Field (One World Random House, 1 March 2022) and The Year of Blue Water (Yale University Press 2019), winner of the 2018 Yale Series of Younger Poets Prize. His work has been featured in or at NPR’s All Things Considered, New York Public Library, Granta, and New England Review, and he is the recipient of fellowships from Asian American Writers’ Workshop and Poets House. He holds an MFA in Poetry from New York University and was most recently poetry editor at Foundry. Currently, he teaches creative writing at large and gives writing advice at The Reading.
Yanyi's website
You can purchase Dream of the Divided Field here
Yanyi's Twitter
Yanyi's InstagramVarious books, movies, podcasts, etc. mentioned in this episode:
Algorithm crowd sounds
Surviving R. Kelly docuseries
Shakespeare’s The Taming of the Shrew
AI generated imagery
@images_ai
WOMBO Dream
DALL-E
Virgina Woolf’s audio BBC interview
When We Were Young Festival and its much parodied poster
Black Mountain Poets
Olson’s "Projective Verse" manifesto, some explicit field talk
Lydia Davis’s "Hand" story (this is the whole story lol):
"Beyond the hand holding this book that I’m reading, I see another hand lying idle and slightly out of focus — my extra hand."
(more stories here)
"The Cows" chapbook
Yanyi's newsletter
Letter on why he left Substack
Yanyi at the Poetry Project discussing de las Rivas's "Black Sun" and fascist dogwhistling in contemporary poetry
Ghost, the platform Yanyi uses to now send his newsletters
bell hooks’s Teaching to Transgress full PDF
Tell Them Anything You Want: A Portrait of Maurice Sendak documentary
Laura Engels Wilder’s Little House on the Prairie series
FEELING ASIAN podcast episodes:
An Evening With Two Asian Therapists (feat. Peter Adams, Ph.D and Melissa Yao, Ph.D)
Asian Seeking Asian (therapists)
Editor and Social Media Manager: Mitchel Davidovitz
Host and Producer: Avren Keating
Sound of Waves Breaking: Sounds from this video of Merlin, my sweet 5-year-old Frenchie that died of a brain tumor in the time between recording and editing this episode. I love you, little bubs.
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In this interview, I spoke with Sarah Nnenna Loveth Nwafor about their latest publication Already Knew You Were Coming. We discuss Igbo cosmology and time, vengeance poetry, their process in writing this chapbook, and more.
Sarah Nnenna Loveth Nwafor (They/Them) is a queer Igbo-American Poet, Educator, and Facilitator who descends of a powerful ancestry. They believe that storytelling is magick, and they speak to practice traditions of Igbo orature. When they witness, their forebears are pleased. Sarah has been writing for a minute and is learning something new about their voice each year, but one thing they’re proud to share is that they have a chapbook out with Game Over Books! When Sarah's not writing; they’re probably sitting under a tree, reading about Love, dancing with friends or cooking a bomb-ass meal like the true Taurus they are.
Go buy Already Knew You Were Coming
Sarah’s Instagram
Sarah’s website
Books, artists, musicians, etc. mentioned in this episode:
Mithsuca Berry
Alexis Pauline Gumbs’s Dub: Finding Ceremony
Sister Love: The Letters of Audre Lorde and Pat Parker 1974-1989
I.S. Jones’s Spells of My Name
Nwaobiala
Dena Igutsi’s Cut Woman
Editor and Social Media Manager: Mitchel Davidovitz
Host and Producer: Avren Keating
Sound of Waves Breaking: Melody Loop 95 BPM, DaveJf
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In this episode, I spoke with Cody-Rose Clevidence about their latest publication, Aux Arc / Trypt Ich, out with Nightboat Books. We dug into language, exploring motif, grief, love—all that good stuff.
Cody-Rose Clevidence is the author of BEAST FEAST (2014) and Flung/Throne (2018), both from Ahsahta Press, Listen My Friend This is the Dream I Dreamed Last Night from The Song Cave and Aux Arc / Trypt Ich as well as several handsome chapbooks (flowers and cream, NION, garden door press, Auric). They live in the Arkansas Ozarks with their medium sized but lion-hearted dog, Birdie and an absolute lunatic cat.
Cody-Rose's Instagram
Buy Aux Arc / Trypt Ich!
Poets, books, etc. mentioned in this episode:
Cody-Rose Clevidence's BEAST FEAST Turquoise waters of the Ozarks "Apophatic" was the word I was trying to remember! I can't read this work because of the paywall, but it seems like it might be useful in exploring Manley Hopkins's contemplations of God. H.D. Homer Algernon Charles Swinburne William Wordsworth English literature's Romanticism Gerard Manley Hopkins Stephen Taylor's Building Thoreau's Cabin Jerome Rothenberg (editor), Technicians of the Sacred Jerome Rothenberg (editor), Shaking the Pumpkin: Traditional Poetry of the Indian North Americas Guy Deutscher's The Unfolding of Language Guy Deutscher's Through the Language Glass: Why the World Looks Different in Other Languages George Lakoff and Mark Johnson's Metaphors We Live ByEditor and Social Media Manager: Mitchel Davidovitz
Host and Producer: Avren Keating
Sound of Waves Breaking: "Arkansas" by John Linnell. At last, one half of TMBG makes it onto the pod.
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In this episode, I spoke with féi hernandez about Hood Criatura, their poetry collection released in 2020. We also spoke about their incredible skills as an illustrator, and féi recommends some fantastic reads.
féi hernandez (b.1993 Chihuahua, Mexico) is a trans, Inglewood- raised, formerly undocumented immigrant artist, writer, healer. They have been published in POETRY, Pank Magazine, Oxford Review of Books, Frontier Poetry, The Breakbeat Poets Vol. 4: LatiNext, amongst others. They are a Define American Fellow for 2021 and are currently the Board President of Gender Justice Los Angeles. féi is the author of the full-length poetry collection Hood Criatura (Sundress Publications 2020) which was on NPR’s Best Books of 2020. féi collects Pokémon plushies.
féi’s website
féi’s instagram
Purchase Hood Criatura
Poets, books, etc. mentioned in this episode:
Gloomy the Naughty Grizzly, anime series
Sailor Moon, anime series
Natalie Diaz’s My Brother Was an Aztec
Natalie Diaz’s Postcolonial Love Poem
Ambar Lucid and her song “Story to Tell”
féi’s illustrationsHood Criatura on Goodreads, Barnes and Noble, and Amazon. Go leave a review :)
Editor and Social Media Manager: Mitchel Davidovitz
The Sound of Waves Breaking is “Project - 3_30_21, 6.55 PM.wav” by bradygalp123
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In this episode, I spoke with Larkin Christie about their book gather all your supple creatures.
Larkin Christie is a queer poet living on unceded Pocumtuc land in what is currently known as Western Massachusetts. Their second collection, gather all your supple creatures, is out now. Their creative work draws on experiences as an educator, organizer, and dancer.
Larkin's website
Larkin's Instagram
Go buy gather all your supple creatures!
Quotes, workshop, and media mentioned in this episode:
In Surreal Life, workshop Honeyfitz, band From Larkin: "I just did some research and the quote is actually by Shelly Smith, published in June Jordan’s Poetry for the People: A Revolutionary Blueprint. It is 'Deciding whom to publish, whose words are important or good or right, whose message is valuable, is about politics. Self-publishing is about power, about taking the responsibility to disseminate your words yourself.' Editor and Social Media Manager: Mitchel Davidovitz Sound of Waves Breaking: "Larks in Limburg, Netherlands.mp3" by @robkuster -
In this episode, I spoke with KB about their zine “A New Relationship to Pain,” their relationship to poetry, the pandemic, working as a poet and educator, and more.
KB is from Stop Six, Fort Worth, Texas. They are a Black queer nonbinary poet, educator, student affairs professional, and lover of most plants/people. They want to be your friend as well as your reminder to think in abundance. They have words published in Cincinnati Review, Puerto Del Sol, Palette Poetry, and other equally pretty places. Their chapbook How To Identify Yourself with a Wound (Kallisto Gaia Press, 2022) won the 2020 Saguaro Poetry Prize and was written with support from workshops with Lambda Literary, In Surreal Life, The Watering Hole, The Hurston/Wright Foundation, The Speakeasy Project, and Winter Tangerine. They are currently a 2021 PEN America Emerging Writers fellow and an African American Leadership Institute - Austin fellow.
When not on stage or in the page, they serve as Program Coordinator for the Gender and Sexuality Center at the University of Texas at Austin, Founding Executive Director of Interfaces, Co-Founder/President of Embrace Austin, and educator in various settings. Follow them on Twitter or Instagram at @earthtokb and access their exclusive teaching, writing, and other content at patreon.com/earthtokb. They live in Austin, TX where they’re writing books & trying their best.
KB’s Zine “a new relationship to pain”
KB’s Instagram
KB’s Twitter
Poets, books, etc. mentioned in this episode:
Jericho Brown’s The Tradition
Taylor Byas's poetryGeorge Abraham’s "ars poetica in which every pronoun is a Free Palestine” (second poem on this page)
Justin Phillip Reed’s "Leaves of Grass"
Claudia Delfina Cardona’s “What Remains"
Khalypso’s “You Really Seem to Think I’ll Miss You”
The Sound of Waves Breaking is “DesertTexasT01” by Riabad
Editor and Social Media Manager: Mitchel Davidovitz
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In this episode I spoke with Rainie Oet about their recent publication Glorious Veils of Diane.
Content warning: We talk a lot about blood and some about self-harming
Rainie Oet is a nonbinary writer and game designer, former Editor-in-Chief of Salt Hill Journal, and the author of Glorious Veils of Diane (Carnegie Mellon University Press, 2021), as well as two other books: Porcupine in Freefall and Inside Ball Lightning. They have an MFA in Poetry from Syracuse University, where they were awarded the Shirley Jackson Prize in Fiction.
Rainie's website Rainie's Twitter Go buy Glorious Veils of Diane Rainie's Inside Ball Lightning Rainie's Porcupine in Freefall Artists, books, films, games etc. mentioned in this episode: Diane Arbus Blood elemental in D&D Serena Perrone's "In Our Cinematic Lives" Ladybird, film David Lynch movies Collected Poems by Zbigniew Herbert which includes the translated Hermes, Dog and Star. "The Little Box" by Vasko Popa Chase Berggrun's R E D
My interview with Chase about R E D Dragula, TV Show 최호소 HOSO Terra Toma, drag performer Yume Nikki, indie game Octavia Butler's Lilith's Brood series Merlin Sheldrake's Entangled Life: How Fungi Make Our Worlds, Change Our Minds, and Shape Our FuturesThe Sound of Waves Breaking: "Sanchon Drum - Seoul Korea" by RTB45
Editor and Social Media Manager: Mitchel Davidovitz
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In this episode, I dive deep into one poem with its authors, Anaïs Duplan and imogen xtian smith. Tune in for our conversation about of art, love, and utopias.
Anaïs Duplan is a trans* poet, curator, and artist. He is the author of a book of essays, Blackspace: On the Poetics of an Afrofuture (Black Ocean, 2020), a full-length poetry collection, Take This Stallion (Brooklyn Arts Press, 2016), and a chapbook, Mount Carmel and the Blood of Parnassus (Monster House Press, 2017). He has taught poetry at the University of Iowa, Columbia University, Sarah Lawrence College, and St. Joseph’s College.
His video works have been exhibited by Flux Factory, Daata Editions, the 13th Baltic Triennial in Lithuania, Mathew Gallery, NeueHouse, the Paseo Project, and will be exhibited at the Institute of Contemporary Art in L.A in 2021.
As an independent curator, he has facilitated curatorial projects in Chicago, Boston, Santa Fe, and Reykjavík. He was a 2017-2019 joint Public Programs fellow at the Museum of Modern Art and the Studio Museum in Harlem. In 2016, he founded the Center for Afrofuturist Studies, an artist residency program for artists of color, based at Iowa City’s artist-run organization Public Space One. He works as Program Manager at Recess.
An's website An's Twitter An's Instagramimogen xtian smith (fka xtian w) is a poet & performer. Recent work is featured or forthcoming in Peach Mag, Cosmonauts Ave, the Rumpus, & WE WANT IT ALL: An Anthology of Radical Trans Poetics. They live in Brooklyn.
imogen's Twitter imogen's InstagramPlaces, people, art, books etc. mentioned in this episode:
We Want It All: An Anthology of Radical Trans Poetics, ed. by Andrea Abi-Karam and Kay Gabriel An interview I did a while back with Kay Gabriel and the other editors of Vetch An interview I did with Andrea Abi-Karam Berl's Brooklyn Poetry Shop Take This Stallion An and imogen's Trans Oral History project Mohammed Zenia's Tel Aviv imogen's review for Tel Aviv for the Poetry Project Posthumous selected works of Wanda Coleman, Wicked Enchantments Bernadette Mayer's Midwinter Day Terrance Hayes Bahar Orang's Where Things Touch: A Meditation on BeautyEditor and Social Media Manager: Mitchel Davidovitz
The Sound of Waves Breaking is "Gymnasium, Class Reunion in Distance" by ecfike. Meeting people in-person and hugging after a long period of time? I miss that and them.
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In this episode I spoke with noor ibn najam about her recent work and writing process. they also discussed showing work to friends and skill-sharing. Sorry that the intro and outro audio is a little wonky this time around, but my interview with noor is still good.
noor is a poet who teases, challenges, breaks, and creates language. she's received fellowships from Callaloo and The Watering Hole and is a recent resident of the Vermont Studio Center. her poems have been published and anthologized with DIAGRAM, ANMLY, The Academy of American Poets, the Rumpus, Bettering American Poetry, and others. her chapbook, PRAISE TO LESSER GODS OF LOVE, was published by Glass Poetry Press in 2019.
noor’s website
purchase Praise to Lesser Gods of Love
noor’s Patreon
Writers, poems, books, events mentioned in this episode:
The Arab Apocalypse, by Etel Adnan
noor's poem "questions arabic asked in english (colonial fit)”
an interview of Douglas Kearney where he discusses compositional hierarchy
“I am an artist and I'm sensitive about my shit,” a lyric from Erykah Badu ‘s “Tyrone.”
Zong! by M. NourbeSe Philip
“The Secret Name,” by W.S. Graham
وسوس Arabic for "whispers of the devil in your ear"
khaleel, artist and noor’s partner
Qil, Astro-Black Metalbender behind the jewlery line BLACKMARZIAN
Keziah Harrell, painter
Jamal Jones on Twitter
kiki nicole
here’s an interview kiki and I recorded last year
noor’s Skill Swaps
The Sound of Waves Breaking is “Walking on Snow,” recorded by rivernile7.
Editor and Social Media Manager: Mitchel Davidovitz
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This month’s guest is Aeon Ginsberg. We dug into their recently published book Greyhound and also talked about PoBiz/Big Lit, death, and teeth poetry.
Aeon Ginsberg (they/them) is an agender transfeminine writer and performer from Baltimore City, MD. They are the author of Greyhound, the 2019 winner of the Noemi Press Poetry Prize, and their work has been published in various magazines in print and online. Aeon is a Taurus, a bartending, and a bitch.
Aeon’s website
Aeon’s Twitter account
Go get Greyhound!
Writers, news, books, events mentioned in this episode:
Aeon’s previous chapbooks:
Until the Cows Come Home (Elation Press, 2016)
Loathe/Love/Lathe (Nostrovia! Press, 2017)
Yanyi has written an excellent article regarding PoMag’s “trans issue” and critiquing special issues in general: “Counting Tokens: Special Issues and the Theatre of Delay.”
#BeyondSpecialIssue folio organized by jayy dodd
Roy Guzman on what happened after their close reading of Toby Martinez de las Rivas’s published and fascist work "Titan / All Is Still" in PoMag’s Nov 2018 issue.
PoFound statement about how they plan to reorient themselves and dismantle white supremacist practice in their organization.
“Exclusive: The Paris Review, the Cold War and the CIA,” in Salon
speCt! books open letter to PoFound at the wake of the COVID-19 crisis
“MICA professor resigns after former student alleges misconduct, says she informed college two years ago,” in The Baltimore Sun.
Isobel Bess (sorry for accidentally using her previous name!)
Jamie Berrout
Marxist Poetry Podcast
Magpie Killjoy's I Pity The Immortal
RBG's personal trainer doing push-ups in front of her casket
Chen Chen
Shazia Hafiz Ramji
David Davis
Kayleb Candrilli
Chris, a Christine and the Queens album
“Hello -- A Greeting From Nowhere”
Anne Boyer's What Resembles A Grave
Peach Mag
Fargo Tbakhi's 12 World's Interrupted By The Drone
Aeon made a Spotify playlist of songs that are in conversation with their book
Anne Carson quote: "If prose is a house, poetry is a man on fire running quite fast through it."
The Sound of Waves Breaking is this video Aeon sent me of Vin Diesel singing Rhianna.
Editor and Social Media Manager: Mitchel Davidovitz
If you want to get in contact with me, you can email me at [email protected] and/or message me @WavesBreakPod on Twitter.
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This month I got to speak with Kama La Mackerel about their just-released book, ZOM-FAM, published by Metonymy Press. We go in-depth in discussion about their decolonial artistic practices and inspiration for the book.
Kama La Mackerel is a Montreal-based Mauritian-Canadian multi-disciplinary artist, educator, writer, community-arts facilitator and literary translator who works within and across performance, photography, installations, textiles, digital art and literature. Kama’s work is grounded in the exploration of justice, love, healing, decoloniality, hybridity, cosmopolitanism and self- and collective-empowerment. They believe that aesthetic practices have the power to build resilience and act as resistance to the status quo, thereby enacting an anticolonial practice through cultural production.
Kama has exhibited and performed their work internationally and their writing in English, French and Kreol has appeared in publications both online and in print. They have lived in far-flung places such as Pune, India and Peterborough, Ontario. ZOM-FAM, their debut poetry collection is published by Metonymy Press.
GO BUY ZOM-FAM! Kama's websiteMedia, artists, books, etc mentioned in this episode:
Kama will get to perform ZOM-FAM in Montreal this October :) "The Self-Love Cabaret: L’Amour se conjugue à la première personne" "From Thick Skin to Femme Armour," performance Artists who made the ZOM-FAM cover: Kai Yun Ching and Aun Li Kalapani "My Body is the Ocean" project and performance "Breaking the Promise of Tropical Emptiness: Trans Subjectivity in the Postcard" project Fierce Femmes and Notorious Liars: A Dangerous Trans Girl's Confabulous Memoir by Kai Cheng Thom Disclosure documentary Little Blue Encyclopedia (for Vivian), by Hazel Jane Plante My Art is Killing Me and Other Poems, by Amber Dawn "Explained: How Severe was the Mauritius Oil Spill," article in The Indian Express "Mauritius calls for urgent help to prevent oil spill disaster," article in The Guardian ** Fundraiser to help Mauritian oil spill clean-up ** "Before and after: Satellite images show how lightning complex fires scarred Bay Area landscape" article in The Mercury News "A California fire sparked by a gender reveal party has grown to more than 10,000 acres," an article for CNN. Because we definitely needed another reason to hate gender reveal parties, am I right? ** Donate to Latino Community Foundation's Northern California Wildfires Relief Fund ** The Sound of Waves Breaking: "Ay Ay Lolo" by Menwar Editor and Social Media Manager: Mitchel Davidovitz -
In this episode, I spoke with poet kiki nicole about their manuscript, Autobiography of the boi Venus which not published (yet!), their embroidery work, film work, and current interests.
kiki nicole is a Black, Queer, and Non-binary multimedia artist and poet based in Charlotte, North Carolina.. They’ve received invitations to fellowships such as Pink Door Writing Retreat, The Watering Hole, and Winter Tangerine. kiki nicole is currently a reader for Muzzle Magazine. They work to explore a Black, queer, femme & genderless universe that un/bodies, un/genders, & re/news, kiki hopes to lend a voice for the void in which Black femmes not only exist in plain view, but thrive.
kiki’s site
kiki’s instagram
Donation link to support kiki
Media, artists, books, etc mentioned in this episode:
Winter Tangerine’s fellowship program
jayy dodd
venus selenite
Tyrell Blacquemoss (TBN), who runs Cause Reign
Find examples of kiki’s textile and multimedia work here
ariella tai
ariella tai’s "she's not going to get more dead"
the first + the last, a experimental film/video and new media arts project for Black femmes, women, and non-men that kiki and ariella co-curate
Lil Uzi Vert
Katherine McKittrick's Demonic Grounds: Black Women and the Cartographies of Struggle
“Stitches in Time” quilt exhibition, was not at the museum
M. Norbese Philips's Zong!
Yoruba deity Oshun
Yoruba deity Yemaya
Yoruba deity Shango
Roman deity Venus
Gríma Wormtongue from The Lord of the Rings
Shakespeare’s Macbeth
Toni Morrison’s Beloved
Octavia Butler's Parable of the Sower, Parable of the Talents, and Kindred
Naked and Afraid reality series
Xandria Phillips's HULL
adrienne marie brown's Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good (Emergent Strategy)
Big Thief’s "Not"
Mitski
noname’s “Song 33”
Noname Book Club
Oluwatoyin “Toyin” Salau
kiki's syllabus “Into a New Year.” kiki notes “This is a syllabus of mine that I think ties a lot into what I was trying to convey near the end about preparing for a new world.”
kiki’s pdf library “blk thots~” to decolonize your bookshelves!
The sound of waves breaking is Sylvester's “You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real).”
This episode was edited and social media managed by Mitchel Davidovitz.
Stay safe, everyone!!
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Như and I discussed her recent chapbook A System of Satellites and her writing practice, finding dignity as a trans poet, and writing past ingrained fear and doubt. She also asked me questions. Hear me stumble trying to answer questions about my writing practice and how I approach writing with personal experiences.
Như Xuân Nguyễn is a queer and trans Vietnamese American poet and writer. A Kundiman Fellow and a graduate of the MFA program in Creative Writing at Rutgers-Newark, she won the 2018 Poetry Society of America Chapbook Fellowship with her debut chapbook A System of Satellites. Her work has appeared in The Offing, DELUGE (Radioactive Moat), The Journal, The Shade Journal, and Juked. She is currently based in New York City, where she lives with her two cats, Arya and Azula.
Như's website
Buy Như's chapbook Note: I refer to a NOLA poetry fest panel that is no longer happening due to COVID-19. Wash your hands and stay at home, everyone. People and Books Mentioned: Adrian Matejka Cathy Park Hong's Minor Feelings Tracy May Fuad Emily Luan Editor and Social Media Manager: Mitchel Davidovitz The Sound of Waves Breaking: Lunar Wind, @Walter_Odington -
This episode, I got to talk with sung! sung is a writer and interdisciplinary artist from Korea. They are the author of What About the Rest of Your Life (Perfect Day Publishing) and Flowers Are for Pussies (Ghost City Press). Their work has appeared in Nat. Brut, Kweli Journal, Contrary, The James Franco Review, The Wanderer, and Crab Fat Magazine. Media, artists, books, etc mentioned in this episode: sung's website sung's Twitter Kaveh Akbar bag of dirt tweet Jamie Berrout's essays against publishing Interview with Kaveh Akbar where he discusses "Poems are rarely on the side of power." Not mentioned in the episode, but looks interesting to read (and it's free online!) on the subject of trauma and how our culture makes it a commodity: Decolonizing Trauma Studies: Trauma and Postcolonialism Paintbucket "To eat the fruit climb the tree" poem Black Orpheus soundtrack Dreaming of Ramadi in Detroit by Aisha Sabatini Sloan "On Basquiat, the Black Body, and a Strange Sensation in My Neck" by Aisha Sabatini Sloan Kendra Allen's When You Learn the Alphabet The sound of waves breaking is "Wynd" by weerm This episode's editor and social media manager is Mitchel Davidovitz
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In this episode, I had the opportunity to talk with Zefyr Lisowski about her book Blood Box.
Zefyr Lisowski is a trans and queer writer, artist, and North Carolinian currently living in NYC. She's a Poetry Co-editor for Apogee Journal and the author of Blood Box, winner of the Black River Editor's Choice Award from Black Lawrence Press and forthcoming fall 2019; she's also the author of the microchap Wolf Inventory (Ghost City Press, 2018) and is a 2019 Tin House Summer Workshop Fellow.
Zefyr's work has appeared or is forthcoming in Lit Hub, Nat. Brut., Muzzle Magazine, and DIAGRAM, among many other places; she's also received support from Sundress Academy for the Arts, McGill University, the New York Live Ideas Fest, and the 2019 CUNY Graduate Center Adjunct Incubator Grant for the arts. A 2018 nominee for the Pushcart Prize, she also goes by Zef.Zefyr Lisowski's website
Go buy Blood Box!Media, artists, books, etc mentioned in this episode:
Sharon Pollock's play Blood Relations Angela Davis's short story "The Fall River Axe Murders" Angela Davis's Bloody Chamber Lizzie Borden's film Born in Flames Lizzie (2018 film) Muriel Leung Joey De Jesus Jessie Rice Evans Cyree Jarelle Johnson's SLINGSHOT
(and here's my interview with Cyree) Diana Khoi Nguyen's Ghost Of Johanna Hedva's "Sick Woman Theory" @Mx_ctrl is my Instagram handle, and...I definitely failed Inktober Samuel Ace/ Linda Smukler's Meet Me There: Normal Sex & Home in three days. Don't wash.Editor and Social Media Manager: Mitchel Davidovitz
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This episode, I had the chance to speak with Cyrée Jarelle Johnson about their book, SLINGSHOT.
Cyrée Jarelle Johnson (He/They) is a poet and writer from Piscataway, NJ. His work has appeared in The New York Times, Boston Review, Wussy, The Wanderer, Vice, Rewire News, The Root, and Nat. Brut among other publications. They earned an MFA in Creative Writing from Columbia University with support from Davis Putter Scholarship Fund.
SLINGSHOT, his first collection of poetry, is available now from Nightboat Books. Development of the work was supported by Astraea Foundations' Global Arts Fund, Culture/Strike Climate Change and Environmental Justice Fellowship, and Rewire News Disabled Writers Fellowship.
They tweet with significant queer millenial ennui at @CyreeJarelle
Cyrée's website
Cyrée's TED Talk "What is Autism Neutrality?"Authors and books mentioned in the episode:
Leah Lakshmi Piepzna-Samarasinha's Tonguebreaker and Care Work Kay Undlay Barrett's When the Chant Comes Britteney Black Rose Kapri's Black Queer Hoe Yanyi's Year of Blue WaterThe Sound of Waves Breaking was "Natural Disaster" by @davidthomascairns
Editor, Social Media Manager: Mitchel Davidovitz
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It's been a minute! Thanks for your patience as I've slogged through life. In this episode I spoke with Samuel Ace about his book Our Weather Our Sea.
Samuel Ace is a trans/genderqueer poet and sound artist. He is the author of several books, most recently Our Weather Our Sea (Black Radish 2019), the newly re-issued Meet Me There: Normal Sex and Home in three days. Don’t wash., (Belladonna* Germinal Texts 2019), and Stealth with poet Maureen Seaton. He is the recipient of the Astraea Lesbian Writer Award and the Firecracker Alternative Book Award in Poetry, as well as a two-time finalist for both the Lambda Literary Award and the National Poetry Series. Recent work can be found in Poetry, PEN America, Best American Experimental Poetry, Vinyl, and many other journals and anthologies. He currently teaches poetry and creative writing at Mount Holyoke College in western Massachusetts.
Sam's website
Buy Our Weather Our Sea
Also buy Meet Me There: Normal Sex & Home in three days. Don’t wash.
Books, poets, artists, etc mentioned in this episode:
Ari Banias Oliver Baez Bendorf TC Tolbert's "Dear Melissa" j/j hastain Julie Carr's Real Life: An Installation Ronaldo Wilson's Lucy 72 Douglas Kearney's Mess and Mess and M. NourbeSe Philip's ZONG! Ching-In Chen's recombinant Sawako Nakayasu's Mouth Eats Color Harmony Holiday a reading from 2015 LaTasha N. Nevada Diggs's Twerk Caroline Bergvall's sound installations Cecilia Vicuña's New and Selected Poems Saborami (Chainlinks) Tracie Morris two poems Andrea Abi-Karam's EXTRATRANSMISSION Orlando White LETTERRS Maureen Seaton Rickey Laurentiis Philip B. Williams Ocean Vuong Farid Matuk Kaveh Akbar Angel Dominguez's D E S G R A C I A D O Ariana Reines's A Sand Book Trace Peterson's Since I Moved In Go listen to my interview with Roy over at the Marxist Poetry PodcastThe Sound of Waves Breaking: Samuel Ace's "These Nights"
Editor and Social Media Manager: Mitchel Davidovitz -
I had the opportunity to talk with S. Brook Corfman at AWP this year! S. Brook Corfman is the author of Luxury, Blue Lace, chosen by Richard Siken for the Autumn House Rising Writer Prize, and two chapbooks: the letterpress Meteorites from DoubleCross Press and the digital collection of performance pieces The Anima from GaussPDF. The recipient of grants and fellowships from Lambda Literary, the Vermont Studio Center, and the Greater Pittsburgh Arts Council, recent work has appeared in DIAGRAM, Indiana Review, Muzzle, The Offing, Territory, and Quarterly West (Best of the Net Nomination), among other places. Born and raised in Chicago, Sam now lives in a turret in Pittsburgh.
S's website
Luxury, Blue Lace
Meteorites (chapbook)
Writers, topics, etc, mentioned in the show:
Collection of essays on Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD) and why it's bad science
I should not be surprised someone wrote a thinkpiece on The Little Mermaid as transgender figure
Sarah Ruhl’s Eurydice
A review of the version S. saw in Chicago
Dawn Lundy Martin
S recommends Discipline
Mei Mei Berssenbrugge
This episode's Editor and Social Media Manager is Mitchel Davidovitz
The Sound of Waves Breaking is a field recording of kids playing at a park during the day by JohnnyBeCrafty
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Hello, hello! Happy Spring! I'm here with another interview for you fine people. I had the opportunity to interview B'ellana Johannx aka Chloe Rose about their two upcoming chapbooks!
B'ellana Johannx's gender is Rilke’s dark god: a webbed scrim made of a thousand roots drinking in silence. Also known as Chloe Rose, she/they are a fat, queer, femme, non-binary womxn-of-color living with disabilities and their cats Franz and Pepper in Tacoma, WA. Rose/Johannx has been published in The Wanderer, Dream Pop, and Aspasiology, with Pushcart and Bettering American Poetry nominations henny, so watch out! Tweet them about conlangs, antifa, witchcraft, and drag names @llanaandsuchas. If you are a faggot, you are her/their kin and they love you. May the peace of the Goddess and God be upon you. #SMIB
B'ellana's website
B'ellana's Twitter
Writers, books, ideas, musicians mentioned:
BBC News reporting on Fatbergs Cruising Utopia and Disidentifications by José Esteban Muñoz Raquel Salas Rivera Kolby Harvey In a Queer Time and Place by Jack Halberstam blackbox of butterfly goo Never Angeline Nørth, aka , aka Møss Høpe Ångel, fka Moss Angel the Undying, fka Moss Angel Witchmonstr, fka Sara June Woods, fka Sara Woods Infancy Gospel of Thomas Epimemetics / cultural mimetics: This Wired article from the 90s and also the more contemporary: Thomas Hobson and Kaajal Modi, “Communist Imaginaries and Queer Futures: Memes as Sites of Collective Imagination” coming soon as part of this anthology Beast Meridian while they sleep (under the bed another country) by Raquel Salas Rivera Cruel Fiction by Wendy Trevino Big Lucks Dream Pop Femmescapes zine The Faggots and their Friends between Revolutions by Larry Mitchell Sea-Witch by Never Angeline North Lizzo listicle about BLACKPINK"The Sound of Waves Breaking" is titled "Ghost Merkel Beat" by stanrams and made me laugh my ass off.
This episode was edited and media managed by Mitchel Davidovitz
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