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In this short episode I give you a super quick episode that updates you on our podcast plans for the next month or so.
We will be taking a small brake from 3 episodes a week until Dave gets back from the fall school schedule.
Head over to Schooloffishing.co if you want to find out what trips we have going now.
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Today Brian chats with Curtis Ciszek, Eric Jackson, and returning guest, Darcy Bacha. These guys are known in the snowboarding industry. They are also passionate steelhead anglers. They talk about the movie they did in the Skeena called Alignment and touch on some fishing and hunting stories and insights in Northern BC. It's time to get in the bucket...
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Presented By: TroutRoutes, Waters West, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Togens Fly Shop
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In this episode, we explore the thrilling world of Texas redfish fishing with expert guide Rick Hartman. Rick shares invaluable tips on casting in windy conditions, identifying nervous waters, and practicing techniques that will improve your chances of catching redfish, trout, tarpon, and other saltwater species.
Join us as we uncover the secrets to successful fishing, including how to mark your line for more accurate casts and the surprising truth about whether a redfish will take a bare hook. Rick also provides a step-by-step guide on planning your next fishing trip to South Texas, ensuring you know what to do and what to avoid.
Episode Chapters with Rick Hartman on Texas Redfish Adventures1:38 - Rick recounts his introduction to fly fishing, which began accidentally through older family members during childhood trips to farm ponds and the mountains. He explains that he didn't realize fly fishing could be done in saltwater until he was in junior high.
5:35 - He describes the Lower Laguna Madre area in South Texas. It's a remote area with few access points, mainly through Port Isabel and Port Mansfield, and airports in Harlingen and Brownsville. Rick mentions that while most fishing is within the bay system, there are opportunities to fish in the Gulf of Mexico for various species, though the rough and windy conditions often limit these outings.
9:55 - We talk about the best times to target redfish in his area. Rick mentions that fall, especially September to October, is an excellent time to fish due to consistent weather. Although August can be very hot and humid, it still offers good fishing. Overall, he advises avoiding winter if traveling from afar to ensure a better fishing experience.
14:13 - We ask him about the stingray tailing. Rick explains that they act like vacuum cleaners on the flats, picking up crabs and shrimp from the bottom. Fish like trout and redfish follow behind stingrays to catch the leftovers the stingrays miss. This behavior makes the fish so focused that they don't notice nearby boats.
17:59 - To find a fish, Rick emphasizes that the first and most crucial factor is the water level, which can change daily due to wind. He explains that he assesses various spots based on whether the water levels are suitable for his boat to float. He also considers wind direction and looks for sheltered shorelines where the water might be clearer.
Rick contrasts this with trout fishing, noting that unlike trout, which behave predictably, redfish can be much more challenging. The conditions and fish locations can change so rapidly that even after having a fishing spot "wired" for a week or two, a short break can make it feel like starting over.
20:34 - We dig into his involvement in casting competitions. Rick mentions he participated in these competitions for about 12 years, drawn by the excitement and substantial prize money which attracted participants globally. One these events was by the International Sportsmen's Expo (ISE).
24:01 - Rick recounts his success in various casting events, describing the process where top casters get to choose their fishing spots. He shares that his interest in casting began because he found it enjoyable and started working at a fly shop where he taught casting and fly tying classes. He was introduced to casting tournaments by a Sage representative, which led him to participate and eventually excel in these competitions through extensive practice.
29:45 - We ask him for some casting techniques, particularly in challenging conditions like windy environments or saltwater fishing. Rick emphasizes the importance of practicing with targets, suggesting anglers use a single target to practice hitting from various distances and directions. He stresses the significance of making effective second casts if the first cast is off-target, rather than wasting time stripping the line back in and starting over.
35:17 - Rick emphasizes that the casting stroke should not change in the wind; instead, the elevation of the forward cast should be adjusted. He advises aiming the forward cast lower to the water to prevent the wind from pushing the fly back. He warns against using too much force, which can create larger loops and reduce aerodynamics, suggesting a more controlled and precise technique for better results.
43:26 - He describes his process for preparing and helping his guests catch fish on his boat. He usually stops the boat 200-300 yards from the fishing spot to approach quietly. He observes the water to identify patterns and waits for the right time to fish. Rick provides tips for his guests, such as stripping off line and false casting to prepare. Depending on the wind conditions, he maneuvers the boat to give his guests the best possible shot at casting.
45:59 - Rick explains that "nervous water" looks different from the regular water pattern and can be a sign of fish activity. He elaborates that while water generally has a consistent pattern, a small area with a different pattern could indicate fish.
50:29 - We get into fly tying. Rick shares that he ties his own flies because store-bought ones often don't meet his standards. He mentions purchasing supplies from various places, including shows and local fly shops like Bob Marriott's and Fishing Tackle Unlimited.
When asked about his go-to fly patterns, Rick highlights a small, tan, cream-bodied, weedless crab pattern in different weights, and a white clouser with a weed guard, both effective for redfish and speckled trout. He notes that while these patterns work in most situations, adjustments are sometimes necessary.
53:39 - We ask him about the brands he have worked with. He mentions reels from Abel and Ross, highlighting their high-quality reels. He also praises Rise Fishing Co. for their excellent rods. For lines, he uses those from Airflo.
54:43 - When planning for a fishing trip in South Texas, Rick emphasizes the importance of preparation. He advises not to assume you're ready just because you've fished before. Given the significant investment in the trip, he suggests practicing casting regularly, perhaps in your yard, to improve accuracy and distance. He also recommends seeking help from a local fly shop instructor if necessary.
56:18 - We get into movies, podcasts, and music. Rick reveals his love for Guy Ritchie films, particularly "Snatch" and "Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels," citing their great characters and one-liners.
Our conversation shifts to media consumption during road trips. Rick shares that he listens to both music on Spotify and fly fishing podcasts, mentioning how his daughter introduced him to Spotify.
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Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/658 Presented By: Togiak River Lodge, FishHound Expeditions, Skwala, Yellowstone Teton Territory Denis Peirce, radio show host and trolling flies guru, is here to take us into the history of the great Jay Fair, how all this came to be, and his connection to Jay. Today, you’ll learn how to troll flies with your current gear, the secret to manipulating your fly, and even hear the story behind the wiggle fin that started with a WD-40 can! Grab your favorite drink and get ready for a laid-back way to catch some big fish! Show Notes with Denis Peirce on Trolling Flies. 03:50 - Denis grew up fishing in Southern California with his grandfather. Over the years, he built a successful business selling flies to resorts and fly shops. He focused on places where people actually fished, like the Sierras and up the West Coast. 06:31 - Denis talks about Jay Fair’s unique trolling system. Jay used a sink tip line to keep his fly just below the surface, trolling near shallow areas where trout would feed. 07:46 - Denis started working with Jay Fair in the late '90s. Jay met Denis at the International Sportsman's Expo and asked him to produce the flies on a larger scale. Jay provided the kits with all the materials, and Denis handled the production and shipping. Getting Started with Trolling Flies 12:58 - Denis talks about how to start trolling with flies, even if you’re new to it. He says your current rods, reels, and lines will do. If you have a spool of 2X tippet, you can make a longer leader, and you're set. A sinking or sink tip line works better, but even a standard floater can work. 14:49 - We discuss why trolling flies might get negative reactions and why it's a great technique. He says trolling is great because it’s less physically demanding than casting all day. Plus, trolling helps cover a lot of water, which is key when fish are scattered. Check out our Episode with Denny Rickards. Best Conditions for Trolling Flies 17:50 - Early mornings and low light are prime trolling times because fish are likelier to be in shallow areas. Fish will drop deeper as the sun rises and the water gets clearer. Denis stresses that fishing is like solving a puzzle; you must adjust your technique based on daily conditions. 20:55 - Denis recommends letting your boat glide to a stop to let your gear sink, then speeding up again to move the gear through different depths. Changing direction also helps provoke strikes, as fish react to movement. 22:17 - Trolling flies are designed to attract trout, which are visual feeders. They feature long tails and wings to create movement in the water. The action disc can make the fly swim even more attractively. 25:59 - The WiggleFin Action Disc is a small plastic disc that adds movement to your fly and makes it more attractive to fish. Dean Teegarden was inspired by a creative fisherman using sequins and a leech pattern. Dean took that idea and made the disc using a contact lens holder and a tube from a WD-40 can. 29:06 - Jay Fair used a floating fly line and manipulated it by adding a mend—basically flicking the rod to make the fly pulse and change speed. This technique makes the fly move more naturally. Fishing Show with Dennis Peirce 33:13 - Denis shares about his weekly radio show that’s been on air since the early '90s. It runs every Friday night from 6 to 7 PM. The radio show started as a way for Denis to connect with his fly fishing customers and learn more about their local fishing spots. 40:42 - When trolling, any streamer fly will work, but deceivers are especially cool if you let them soak for 10 minutes. You can use tube flies and stack them to make long flies. 47:53 - Denis says to focus on structure in the water to find big fish. Finding structure is key, so invest in a basic fish finder to locate it. For trolling, you can use lead core lines or modern shooting heads with sinking rates. Thin braid backing helps you go deeper, and you can add a flasher to your setup for better attraction. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/658
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Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Togens Fly Shop, Angler's Coffee
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Have you ever thought about that urban stream that's flowing right near your home right now? As water runs off the street and into the creek, what happens next? Who's looking after the creek? And who's protecting those fish species that are inhabiting those areas? Today you're gonna get an inside view of a watershed council that is protecting their basin on a large scale. And we're gonna talk about how this all ties into the smallmouth bass trip and giveaway we're doing right now. So you know a little bit more about how to protect your own streams and how to get involved in this big trip.
Belinda Friis and Rick Lawson from the Huron River Watershed Council are here to shed light on the work they're doing to protect one of the biggest and most important rivers in the Michigan area of the Great Lakes. You're gonna find out today what forever chemicals are and what they are doing to help protect these chemicals from getting into our streams. You're gonna find out what the Stonefly search is all about and how this is helping to prepare some of the work they're doing out in their area.
And you're also gonna get a little bit of hope, actually a lot of hope into looking at the future. We've talked a lot about this on the podcast. There's definitely some ups and downs in species populations, but today we're gonna be talking about a few in this area and you're gonna get some good direction moving forward. Plus, did I mention it? We're gonna be giving away a trip to Schultz Outfitters, and if you wanna get involved in this trip, you can do it. We'll talk about that at the end. Definitely pumped to get into the Detroit area, putting Detroit on the map, the Huron River. This is gonna be awesome. So let's give back to another great organization.
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Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory, TroutRoutes, Visit Helena, MT, Skwala
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In today's episode, Mike Schultz from Schultz Outfitters shares his invaluable insights to help make your next smallmouth bass fishing trip a roaring success. From headhunting strategies and the importance of the right angle, to understanding how temperature influences your fishing methods throughout the year, this episode covers it all.
Plus, we delve into some unique tips, like how chasing softshell turtles can improve your bass fishing game. So, let's get into it and uncover why smallmouth bass fishing is a favorite among some of the best anglers in the country.
Episode Chapters with Mike Schultz on Smallmouth Bass Fishing3:14 - We discuss the unique aspects of smallmouth bass fishing in Michigan. Mike highlights that the local rivers, being smaller and more intimate, offer a special experience compared to larger watersheds.
Mike mentions that their standard fishing trips involve using Clackacraft skiffs, which are perfectly suited for their rivers. The guides have flexibility in scheduling trips, adjusting based on the time of year and water conditions.
6:29 - We get into the fishing conditions and expectations for our upcoming trip in July 2025. Mike mentions that July is typically great for topwater fishing, using poppers and terrestrial baits similar to trout fishing gear. There are also insect hatches, such as mayflies, that can start in early June and last into September, providing various fishing opportunities.
10:14 - We discuss plans for a fishing trip in Michigan, focusing on the unique aspects of fishing in the Great Lakes region. Mike describes their different fishing programs available in mid-July, including opportunities to catch numerous smallmouth bass or targeting larger fish in smaller rivers. He emphasizes that by mid-summer, large fish often remain in fixed areas, allowing for more strategic fishing.
14:08 - According to Mike, the state record in Michigan for smallmouth bass is over nine pounds, but such large fish are typically found in lakes and not in the rivers where they fish. Their focus is more on the length of the fish, with a 20-inch smallmouth being considered mature and noteworthy. He mentions that their crew catches around 25 to 30 smallmouth bass each year that are 20 inches or larger.
16:06 - For a successful smallmouth bass fishing from a drift boat, Mike emphasizes the importance of keeping the fly out front of the boat rather than off to the side. This approach helps keep the angler undetected and ensures a more effective hook set when the fish inhales the fly. He further explains that this method not only improves your chances but also provides a better experience for all on the boat.
21:13 - We talk about the evolution of drift boats in their region. Mike reminisces about the old aluminum drift boats, especially the big 16-foot models. He explains that initially, large aluminum boats were common, but over time, companies like Hyde and Stealth Craft began producing lighter, narrower boats that are more suitable for the local rivers. These boats are easier to maneuver and can be equipped with small motors, which helps them cover long stretches of river without exhausting themselves.
24:45 - Mike attributes the Schultz Outfitters' success to longevity in the field, treating people well, fulfilling promises, and compensating team members fairly. He mentions key figures like Jeff Liskay and Greg Senyo, highlighting their expertise and humility despite not being very active on social media. He also notes the special environment they've created at Schultz Outfitters, which some customers deeply appreciate.
28:25 - Mike runs through the normal year at their shop. They do a lot of fly tying focused events from January to February. He also mentions one of their big annual events which is called Bobbin the Hood.
34:55 - We ask Mike about his preferred water conditions, to which he responds that he enjoys a sudden increase in water flow. Mike shares a recent vacation experience where the river's flow increased from 1000 to 1600 cubic feet per second (CFS), resulting in excellent fishing conditions. He notes that earlier in the week, finesse techniques worked best, but the increase in flow changed the fishing dynamics.
35:54 - Mike elaborates on the concept of finesse fishing, which can range from using small foam flies like damsels and dragonflies to larger poppers, emphasizing patience and precision.
38:42 - He also describes a unique technique that involves sight fishing around softshell turtles, similar to saltwater fishing. These turtles dislodge food while feeding, attracting fish, and the key is not to spook the turtle to capitalize on the opportunity.
47:12 - Mike tells us that bass are always predators and that their diet is influenced by their surroundings. For example, in one area with abundant caddis, even smaller fish like 12-14 inch bass consume caddis larva. Bass also eat crayfish, hexes, frogs, and various bait fish that migrate from the Great Lakes at different times of the year. Mike emphasizes the importance of understanding the seasonal and environmental factors, such as water levels and temperatures, to predict feeding patterns.
49:28 - We dig into casting. Mike stresses the necessity of being proficient in backhand casting, especially when fishing from a boat or in specific scenarios. He advises against hard stops in casting when using bigger flies, recommending instead a continuous motion style, such as the Belgian or elliptical cast.
56:26 - Mike provides advice for beginners, emphasizing the importance of listening to guides, being patient, and practicing casting. He stresses the quality of equipment provided and recommends following gear guidelines to ensure a smooth experience. He mentions that while summer is the peak season, the chances of encountering other anglers are low, providing a serene and almost exclusive fishing experience.
For those who are interested in smallmouth fishing with Mike's crew, enter our trip and gear giveaway through this link or learn more about it here.
1:04:00 - We get into sports. Mike's children participate in travel baseball and recently played in an amateur tournament in Omaha He mentions that baseball consumes most of their weekends in spring but is enjoyable and educational for the kids.
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Presented By: TroutRoutes, Togens Fly Shop
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If you listen to today's episode, you will have a much better chance to hook more and larger fish on your next Stillwater trip. That's because I'm going to provide a Phil Rowley summary of his top tips for inducing a strike, and I'll have a little story to share at the end that's going to reinforce this message.
In today's short snippet bonus episode, we're going to hear Phil Rowley's 8 tips on inducing a fish take. This podcast today comes from episode 640, where Phil was on his Littoral Zone podcast and he shared these exact tips and more. If you want to hear the full-length episode, check out 640. This is going to be a short snippet episode just so you have a punch just in case you missed that one or you want something a little bit shorter.
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Presented By: Visit Helena, MT, Togiak River Lodge, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Waters West
You may have heard of today's guest from the books and content he's written about spey and steelhead fishing. But did you know that he also has an amazing book on another hard-to-master species? Today, we'll walk through the biggest tips from this book so that you might have a better shot at a giant musky this season.
Rick Kustich, author of Hunting Musky with a Fly, is here to share his top tips on landing that elusive musky. You'll learn how to tease a strike, where most fish occur, and the three key tips to keep the big one on the line. Ready to profile a predator musky style?
Show Notes with Rick Kustich on Hunting Musky with a Fly
01:31 - It's been over a year since we had Rick on the podcast, where we talked about spey fishing and steelhead. Rick had a pretty good year with lots of good steelhead and musky fishing. But he did shake things up with a trip to Patagonia in South America to target sea-run brown trout.
Hunting Musky with a Fly
04:35 - Today, we will discuss Rick's book Hunting Musky with a Fly. It's a great resource for anyone interested in musky fishing.
You can contact Rick through his website or Instagram for a signed, personalized copy of the book. The book can also be found at various fly shops, bookstores, and, of course, on Amazon.
07:06 - Rick pitched the idea of the book around 2013, but it was turned down because musky fly fishing wasn't popular yet. By 2017, with more people getting into musky fishing, Rick's book Hunting Musky with a Fly was finally released.
Why Muskies Are So Hard to Catch
09:06 - Muskies are one of the hardest freshwater fish to catch consistently. They don't need to feed often and have specific feeding windows during the day.
12:19 - Rick explains that understanding Muskies as apex predators is key. They’re picky eaters, so anglers need to trigger them into striking. He suggests using the figure-eight technique, even when you don't see a fish following your fly.
18:05 - Rick also mentions that while figure eight is his go-to, you must also read the fish's behavior. For example, a slow, teasing retrieve can be as effective if the fish seems interested but isn't taking the bait immediately. Water clarity plays a big role too.
22:12—New York offers a diverse muskie fishery with different strains, including the Great Lakes strain found in the Niagara River. Muskies are native to this area and have various strains in various locations.
While their original range was in the Northeast and Midwest, they’ve been stocked in many other places, including Nebraska and the western states. Tiger muskies, a hybrid between pike and musky, are also found out west.
Keeping Your Head in the Game
25:57 - Stay focused during those long days when you might not catch any fish. It can be tough, especially if you're new and questioning everything. But experience teaches you that each cast brings you closer to a catch.
Stay engaged, and keep your energy up. Even when it’s slow, every cast counts, and being ready could lead to the catch of a lifetime.
How to Find the Best Spots for Muskies
28:45 - Muskies usually stick close to food sources, so look for areas with plenty of bait. In big waters like the Niagara River, focus on edges and structures like weed beds and drop-offs.
Look for log jams, overhanging brush, and slower water spots for smaller rivers. Muskies often hang out in these areas to save energy and ambush prey.
Casting for Muskies
41:52 - For big, open water, like deep rivers, you must make long casts to keep your fly down longer. Rick uses a two-handed rod, around 9.5 feet long, with a heavy line for distance and depth.
Use the bottom hand to pull and the top hand to guide for speed.
After retrieving the fly, sweep the rod to get some line out, then use one or two false casts to get it back in the water.
A shorter rod and quick casts help reduce wear on your body and improve efficiency.51:00 - Rick explains that most fish hit within the first few strips of the fly. For casting, Rick uses a heavy, short-headed line, about 22 to 23 feet long, which helps get the fly deep quickly.
55:12 - Rick says using a back-and-forth retrieve with your fly and making it look vulnerable can trigger strikes. He stresses the importance of strip setting to get a good hook set because muskies have tough mouths.
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Presented By: Waters West, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Angler's Coffee, Visit Helena, MT
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In this episode, Ronan Creane, a renowned fly fishing guide with deep ties to Ireland, is here to talk all about fly fishing New Zealand. Ronan specializes in sight fishing for brown trout and has been a passionate fly angler for decades, following in the footsteps of his father and grandfather.
If you've ever dreamt of casting your line in the pristine waters of New Zealand, this episode is a must-listen. Ronan takes us on an in-depth journey through the best fishing spots, the ideal times to visit, and expert tips on sight fishing for those elusive big browns. You'll also learn why a trip to New Zealand might be more attainable than you think, and how to make the most of your adventure without suffering from jet lag.
Episode Chapters with Ronan Creane on Fly Fishing New Zealand2:04 - Ronan shares his background, explaining he grew up in Ireland and moved to New Zealand at age 24. His earliest fishing memories involve catching tiny trout in a stream near his house using a jam jar and a net. Fly fishing runs in his family, with his father and grandfather being skilled fly fishermen. Although introduced to it gradually, he received his first fly rod at age 12 from his grandfather.
8:21 - He worked as a guide on two iconic salmon and sea trout fisheries in Ireland, starting at age 18. He continued guiding during visits home while exploring fly fishing globally. He highlights the decline of sea trout fishing in Ireland, which began in the late 1980s to early 1990s, coinciding with the rise of salmon farming.
12:28 - We start to dig into fly fishing in New Zealand, specifically in the small town of Alexandra on the South Island. Ronan describes his work as a guide, focusing mainly on brown trout, although rainbow trout are also present in the rivers and lakes he fishes. He emphasizes that his fishing is mostly river-based, but he also enjoys lake fishing due to his background.
The average fish he targets weighs around three to four pounds. He aims for larger fish, typically five to six pounds, and mentions that he and his clients have caught around 20 double-figure fish.
15:11 - We talk about some sight fishing techniques, particularly in rivers. Ronan explains that the ideal scenario is finding a fish "on station," meaning it's feeding in one spot, which gives the angler time to plan their approach. He contrasts this with a fish that is cruising, which requires a different, more dynamic strategy. The key to success in New Zealand, according to Ronan, is making the first cast accurately. Multiple attempts can alert the fish, making it harder to catch.
18:30 - Ronan explains his preference for using a dry fly as an indicator since fish can take a dry fly at any time of the year. However, he notes that if a fish is swinging, it’s more likely to take a nymph. He also describes the importance of watching the dry fly for any movement indicating a strike, but he also stresses the value of directly observing the fish’s mouth if visible to catch subtle takes that the dry fly might not indicate.
20:39 - We talk about the fishing opportunities in New Zealand, particularly in the South Island. Ronan elaborates on various regions such as Mackenzie District (known for lakes and rivers), the West Coast (wild and remote), Southland (with numerous rivers), and Otago (where Ronan is based, offering a variety of fishing experiences). He mentions the availability of brown trout and sea trout, noting that sea trout, which migrate to the ocean and return, can grow significantly larger, sometimes up to 15 pounds.
23:00 - Ronan has been part of Sexyloops since around 2003, not long after its establishment in 1998. Their collaboration began when Ronan met Paul during the filming of an early fishing movie, leading to friendship and numerous fishing trips together, especially to New Zealand.
24:40 - I ask about the allure of New Zealand as a fishing destination. He highlights the country's exceptional freedom for anglers, where a single license allows fishing in various public waters. He emphasized the "queen chain" concept, which grants public access to 22 yards of either bank of a river, provided the access point is public.
28:04 - As a member of the New Zealand Professional Fishing Guides Association (NZPFGA), Ronan mentions that there are about 140 guides spread across both islands of New Zealand, which he believes is sufficient to meet the demand.
29:07 - Our conversation shifts to his blog, which he has been writing for about 15 years as part of Sexyloops. The blog includes approximately 350 entries, focusing on his observations of fishing rather than instructional content.
30:21 - We talk about Ronan's involvement in a TV series called "Pure Fly NZ", produced by Nick Reygaert. Ronan and his friend Jeff Forsee participated in one episode, showcasing unique fly fishing experiences in New Zealand, which deviated from the typical fishing scenes in the country.
31:25 - For those planning a fishing trip to New Zealand, Ronan explains that the fishing season runs from October to the end of May, with each month offering unique opportunities. While January and February are popular, they can be challenging due to heat and increased angling pressure. Ronan suggests considering earlier months like October to December, which are cooler and less crowded.
33:53 - We go into the fishing trips available on Ronan's website. He recommends staying as long as possible, ideally a month, and emphasizes the value of starting the trip with a guide for a few days to get a good foundation.
For those planning a trip specifically to catch big brown trout, he clarifies that the definition of "big" varies among anglers, typically considered to be around 5-7 pounds. While these sizes are common, catching a double-figure fish is unrealistic due to the rarity of such large trout. He notes that targeting the biggest fish can sometimes detract from the enjoyment of the fishing itself, turning it more into a hunt.
37:53 - Ronan explains his approach to organizing a seven-day fishing trip, which is popular among his regular clients. For the first three days, they fish locally, exploring medium-sized rivers, small streams, and lakes, including sight fishing on lakes. The remaining four days involve traveling to different locations based on the best fishing conditions at the time, allowing flexibility to adapt to weather and other variables.
40:46 - He mentions that the best mayfly hatches occur in the cooler months, particularly April and October. However, during the summer months of January to February, terrestrial fishing becomes ideal, with cicadas, hoppers, and beetles providing excellent opportunities for dry fly fishing.
43:00 - Ronan shares a story about the time he and Paul Arden of Sexyloops were in the midst of putting together a TV show with the Discovery Channel.
48:40 - If given a chance to travel elsewhere, Ronan would like to visit Paul in Malaysia for fly fishing. He shares his experiences of fishing there, emphasizing that it's a challenging but rewarding activity suited for seasoned fly fishers who appreciate the sport beyond catching large numbers of fish.
52:15 - Ronan gives some valuable tips on sight fishing for brown trout. He suggests that anglers should practice accurate short-range casting before the trip, as fishing usually occurs within 40 feet. He emphasizes the importance of remaining calm, especially when encountering large trout, which can cause nervousness. He also advises anglers to trust their practiced skills and to focus on casting ahead of the fish rather than directly at it.
53:12 - Ronan mentions he primarily uses a 6wt rod, specifically the Hot Torpedo, which is designed for New Zealand fishing. For fly lines, he's not particular about brands as long as the line is correctly weighted to match the rod.
56:49 - Ronan recounts a memorable story where his grandfather won a sea trout competition with a large salmon in Ireland. We also talk about his efforts to pass the sport to his kids.
1:00:12 - He also shares a memory about his father visiting and their fishing tradition. His father has visited about ten times, and during each visit, they used to fish every day for 30 days straight.
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Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/652
Presented By: Togiak River Lodge, FishHound Expeditions, Angler's Coffee, Stonefly Nets
What if I told you there's a place where you can fish the same waters as Lee Wulff and have a great chance at catching an Atlantic salmon on the fly?
Today, we will dive into the rich history and present-day fly fishing Newfoundland with the head guides from Mountain Waters Resort, Ryan & Les Wentzell and Rod Brophy.
You'll discover the secrets of fishing the riffle hitch, why you should stay put in the pools instead of stepping down, and even why 4-lb tippet is the go-to at certain times of the year. Plus, learn how to hook a giant Atlantic salmon like Lee Wulff did.
Show Notes with Ryan, Les, and Rod on Fly Fishing Newfoundland.
02:35 - Ryan grew up at the lodge, which his parents, Les and Paulette Wentzell, and two other couples purchased. The 170-acre property was originally owned by Lee Wulff.05:23 - The lodge is in Daniels Arbor, Newfoundland, a small town with a rich fishing history. After nearly 30 years of operation, Ryan took over the lodge in 2019 and has been upgrading it ever since.
The Riffling Hitch
10:05 - Rod uses surface fishing with dry flies, like bombers, all year long. The riffling hitch creates a wake on the water, which makes it easier to spot the fish. This method is better than just using a regular wet fly.
Rod mentioned that even big fish, up to 40 pounds, have been caught using this technique, and it’s essential for consistent success.
20:17 - Les shares that Lee Wulff flew his float plane from New York to Newfoundland in the 1940s. He explored the rivers and set up fishing operations, including at Portland Creek. When a road was built nearby in 1956, Lee moved on to other projects.
28:11 - Rod shared how you can still fish in the spots where Lee Wulff used to catch fish. Many spots are still popular today. The area also offers amazing trout fishing, especially in nearby lakes.
Fly Fishing Newfoundland
30:02 - Ryan explained how people get to their fishing location. Most folks fly into Deer Lake Regional Airport, about two hours from the fishing area.
Once they arrive, Ryan's team picks them up, and they can start fishing immediately. Some people drive all the way, but that takes longer with a 10-hour ferry ride from Nova Scotia.
32:52 - Most guests focus on Atlantic salmon, but there’s also great brook trout fishing in the area. They can also visit spots like the River of Ponds and see salmon at Hawke's Bay. Plus, if you're interested in cod fishing, that’s an option too.
35:04 - Rod says that catching Atlantic salmon is very likely, even for new anglers. He suggests using a 9 ft 9 wt rod and casting at a 45-degree angle across the river. The key is to adjust to the conditions and pay attention to the guide’s tips for a successful catch.
40:46 - Rod advises staying in one spot for at least an hour when fishing for Atlantic salmon. He explained that fish often settle in large pools, and you might be fishing over 25 to 30 fish in one spot.
Ryan shares a cool story about Henry Green, who fished at their place from 1957 to 2022. Henry was a big part of their history; loved salmon fishing and bird watching.
Check out this video of Henry Green.
1:00:13 - Ryan highlights all the cool stuff to do in Newfoundland besides fishing. Gros Morne National Park is close by with boat tours and hiking.
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Presented By: FishHound Expeditions, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Skwala
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Today's guest wrote the book referred to as the bible for steelhead fishing. He was the guy who created and perfected the Snap T cast, and he's one of the most respected anglers in the steelhead game. And today he's gonna break down the history and some of the best tips for steelhead and spey so you have a better shot at hooking these magical steelhead while on the river this season.
Deck Hogan, Author of the book A Passion For Steelhead, guide, and expert spey casting instructor is here to take us back into history books of how Northwest Spey began and how steelhead fishing with the spey rod took off. We're gonna talk about how to slow down your fly for more success. Today, you understand where the fish are holding and how to present the fly to these fish. And you're gonna find out what happens if you get a pluck a touch, and you're gonna understand what the fish are actually doing under the water. You're always out there and you sometimes feel a little bit of feedback, but what is that fish actually doing? And how do you get that fish to come back to your fly? It's all on today.
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Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, TroutRoutes, Togens Fly Shop, Togiak River Lodge
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In this episode, we'll chat with Nick Yardley, the president of Fulling Mill. We dive deep into the fascinating story of how Fulling Mill became a leader in the UK and US markets, sharing insights on their top fly patterns and the meticulous process that ensures only the best end up in your fly box.
We also explore stillwater fishing, with Nick offering expert tips and his favorite flies for targeting brook trout in the Northeast. Additionally, you'll hear about his passion for the Great Lakes and why this region holds a special place in his heart for salmon and steelhead fishing.
Join us as we uncover these topics and more, giving you the knowledge to enhance your fly fishing adventures this season. Don't miss out on this insightful conversation with Nick Yardley from Fulling Mill!
Episode Chapters with Nick Yardley on Fulling Mill1:38 - Nick shares his personal journey into fly fishing, starting from a young age with course fishing in Yorkshire, England. His interest shifted to fly fishing during a family visit to Dorset, where a gamekeeper introduced him to the sport. This experience led him to sell his match fishing gear and buy his first fly rod, albeit an unsuitable one. However, he later received a more appropriate and cherished split cane fly rod from a relative, which solidified his passion for fly fishing.
4:34 - We talk about his move from Britain to the United States in 1986. Nick explains that he didn't find the job market in Britain appealing due to high unemployment and general discontent at the time. Seeking adventure, he pursued a path in the US, leveraging his background in climbing.
8:22 - We explore the history of Fulling Mill. Its origins date back to the 1930s when Denis Whetham, a British schoolboy, took up fly tying after a rugby accident left him paralyzed. Upon returning to his family home in Kenya, he garnered local interest and even received commercial orders, leading him to pursue fly tying passionately.
Fulling Mill's flies are now widely available across US fly shops, and in 2023, they introduced a new range of fly tying materials, further solidifying their market presence.
18:00 - Nick mentions that Fulling Mill aims to be a one-stop shop for fly fishing, catering to various needs across different regions, although trout fishing constitutes 80% of their business. He also highlights their innovative approach with Euro nymphing flies, offering different weights for the same fly size and enhancing the consumer experience.
Furthermore, Fulling Mill is planning to introduce a new range of flies for warm water and specific regions by 2025, including patterns for strikers in the northeast and shrimp patterns for the Caribbean and Belize.
22:31 - Nick discusses the process of understanding market needs and providing appropriate products for fly fishing. He says that the strong feedback comes from retail stores and their servicing reps, as different territories have unique demands. He mentions Devin Olsen, a well-known figure in fly fishing who is both a signature fly tier and a shop owner, highlighting how his flies have broad national appeal.
24:18 - We dig into brook trout fishing, focusing on effective flies and ideal locations. Nick recommends using size 14, highly floatable dry flies with foam bodies, mentioning specific types like little chernobyls, ants, and beetles. He explains that when fishing for brook trout in the White Mountains of New Hampshire during the hot summer months, small black beetles work well due to the cold streams.
31:09 - Nick describes their operation in Kenya as well-established, employing about 215 people who are provided with healthcare and a retirement program, making it a desirable place to work. Most employees are around 40 years old and have been with the company for 15-20 years, showcasing their experience.
33:07 - Nick shares his experiences fishing in the Gaspe region, noting the high quality of public waters and the strong salmon stocks. He also mentions the ease of planning a fishing trip in Quebec using resources like the website saumongaspe.com.
40:00 - He finds the Great Lakes steelhead fishing to be remarkable, especially on the Salmon River. Nick says that in salmon fishing, traditionally, single-handed rods with streamers were used, but now many anglers are using two-handed rods for swinging. This method is becoming popular on the Salmon River, where it is effective for covering extensive water quickly and efficiently with big rods and classic West Coast salmon flies.
42:14 - For Atlantic salmon in rivers like the Dartmouth, York, and Saint John, Nick typically uses a 12.5ft 7wt rod, which suits most conditions. However, in narrower sections of the York River, he switches to an 11ft switch rod or a 10ft 7wt single-handed rod. For fishing in the Great Lakes, he often uses either the 11ft switch rod or the 12.5ft 7wt rod rod, which are versatile enough to cover most of his needs.
45:27 - He recommends some fly patterns to bring when you're planning to go on a fishing trip in the Gaspe for Atlantic Salmon.
47:52 - We get into fishing for brook trout in the White Mountains and the types of flies used. For flies, Nick explains that it largely depends on the fishing location and personal preference. He prefers using a dry fly setup, typically starting in July and continuing through August until the waters become too cold.
50:30 - Nick expresses a strong desire to fish in Scandinavia, specifically targeting salmon, trout, and grayling, as he has never fished there before. He notes that the salmon fisheries in Scandinavia are collapsing this year, so he would likely wait until they recover. He also mentions other destinations he wants to explore.
58:02 - For stillwater fishing, Nick suggests using a floating crane fly or dry fly crane fly, commonly known as "daddy long legs" in Britain, noting their high effectiveness despite being underutilized in other regions. He also recommends the diawl bach, a classic Welsh fly known for its consistent performance.
58:39 - We get into the random segment where I ask him about his morning drink preference. Nick reveals that he's a big tea drinker, preferring Yorkshire tea. He explains that a proper cup of tea requires a teapot, boiling water poured over the tea, and some milk. He does not recommend using an old tea bag and warm water since it doesn't produce a good cup of tea.
1:00:37 - Nick enjoys a mixture of both podcast and music, but he also listens to a lot of audiobooks. He likes listening to The Stranglers, a band he grew up with in Britain.
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Presented By: Stonefly Nets, Visit Helena, MT, Waters West, Togiak River Lodge
Today’s episode is special because we’ve got Bill Gammell, the creator of the Five Essentials of Fly Casting, a framework many experts swear by.
Find out how dropping your right foot can improve your timing, discover the most important variable in fly casting, and get the top drill to boost your casting skills.
Let’s get you back on track with better line speed and loop control!
Show Notes with Bill Gammel on The Five Essentials of Fly Casting.
02:08 - Bill started fly fishing at just six or seven years old, catching Bluegill with his older brother and father. His passion for fly fishing continued until college, and he recalls a time he had to switch to conventional tackle for his master's degree research.
04:40 - Bill still lives in Baytown, the same area where he grew up and where his dad greatly influenced his love for fishing. Though the area isn't ideal for fly fishing because of the murky water from the Trinity River, Bill and his family found ways to catch fish.
The Five Essentials of Fly Casting
07:18 - Bill talks about how he and his dad learned fly casting together. His dad was a natural athlete with great hand-eye coordination. They used a home video camera to record expert casters like Lefty Kreh and Mel Krieger.
Over time, they noticed common patterns and eventually put together what we now know as the "Five Essentials of Fly Casting." Bill said they didn't invent anything new but identified key principles that all great fly casters share.
11:02 - Bill started teaching fly casting lessons as a teenager, but it wasn't until they were asked to write a booklet for the Federation of Fly Fishers that they fully laid out the essentials.
They spent two years carefully analyzing videos and got input from top tournament casters. Their work was published in the late '80s and became the foundation for the FFF’s instructor program.
Check out the The Five Essentials of Fly Casting.
Tips for Increasing Casting Distance
20:03 - One of the most important lessons he learned was to focus on trajectory and to keep your cast more level, not too high.
He also emphasizes that line speed and loop control are the foundations of distance casting. Bill said if you master those two, you’ll be able to cast a full fly line without much trouble.
If you want to improve your casting, Bill recommends checking out Paul Arden's Sexyloops website. It's a solid resource with articles, videos, and step-by-step methods to help you learn to cast better.
Listen to the Episode 638 with Paul Arden Here.
25:48 - Bill breaks down the Five Essentials of fly casting and explains how they work together. He said he now teaches them in a new order to make more sense. The most important essential is the straight line path of the rod tip, which helps create a clean cast.
31:00 - The arc changes based on how much the rod bends, which can be affected by the length of the line and the amount of power used. A narrow arc is for short casts, and a wider arc is needed for longer casts.
Check out this article by Bill Gammel on Making adjustments on the fly.
35:04 - Timing and power application are important in fly casting. Bill explains that to get the best cast, your timing needs to be spot on—starting your forward cast just as the line straightens out behind you.
37:32 - He also shares his secret to power: a smooth acceleration to a stop. This means starting slow, adding power in the middle, and then stopping quickly. The stop is key because it lets the rod transfer energy to the line.
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In this episode of In the Bucket, join Brian Niska as he sits down with fly fishing legends Steve Morrow and Justin Miller. These two heavyweights dive deep into their decades-long experiences, sharing great stories from the wild rivers of the Pacific Northwest to the far reaches of Kamchatka. They talk about the art of guiding, the thrill of the catch, and the camaraderie among anglers. Whether you're an avid angler or just love a good story, you're in for a treat today. Okay, let's get in the bucket!
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Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Togens Fly Shop, TroutRoutes, Skwala
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In this episode, Bruce Richards, Scientific Anglers' guru and a master of fly casting, shares his six-step method to perfect your fly cast. Whether you struggle with tailing loops, presentation in windy conditions, or fishing with dry flies, his expertise offers simple and effective solutions.
We also dive into the fascinating history of Scientific Anglers, one of the premier fly line companies. Bruce explains how fly lines have evolved over time, becoming heavier and more specialized. You'll learn which rod is best for beginners and the key actions to look for in a fly rod. But that's not all—he reveals the number one cause of poor fly casts and provides tips on analyzing your cast for continuous improvement. Tune in for an episode packed with practical advice and expert wisdom from Bruce Richards, a true icon in the fly fishing community.
Episode Chapters with Bruce Richards on the Six-Step Method to Perfect Your Cast2:24 - Bruce reminisces about his upbringing in Midland, Michigan, where he was indirectly introduced to fly fishing through his father's best friend, a sales manager at Scientific Anglers. Although Bruce was eager to join fishing trips as a young boy, he was only allowed to participate when he was older. His early exposure to fly fishing laid the foundation for his future career.
3:24 - His professional journey began in a rather unplanned manner. Despite attempts to secure summer jobs at Scientific Anglers, the seasonal nature of the business meant there were no vacancies. After earning a degree in fisheries, Bruce received an unexpected call from a friend at Scientific Anglers, inviting him to apply for a job. He succeeded in securing a position in 1976, marking the start of a long and varied career within the company.
5:30 - He reflects on the significant changes in the fly fishing industry over the years, particularly focusing on the technological advancements since he started in 1976.
9:33 - We discuss the evolution of fly lines and rods over the years. Bruce confirms that lines have become heavier and explains the history behind this trend. He also explains that as these heavier lines became popular, rod designers began developing stiffer rods to match them. This created a cycle where heavier lines required stiffer rods, which in turn required even heavier lines.
13:29 - We dig into the combination of fly rods and lines, emphasizing the flexibility in pairing them. Bruce points out that the action of a rod can be modified by changing the weight of the line used. He suggests that the most logical approach is to select the line first based on the type of fly, the fishing distance, and the environmental conditions, and then choose a rod that can effectively cast that line.
16:45 - He shares a bit of the history of Scientific Anglers.
19:52 - Bruce recounts an experience with a Canadian casting student, which led him to develop his six-step method for improving fly casting. Initially, Bruce faced challenges instructing the student remotely but found that examining the top leg of the loop in the cast revealed critical insights. The method involves assessing the loop's top leg for straightness, understanding the rod tip's path, analyzing the caster's actions, and making necessary adjustments.
29:48 - Bruce advises those who have never cast before. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the mechanics, like how loops work, which allows for self-analysis. He mentions that after a lesson, beginners usually show significant improvement. However, he notes that this improvement can be fleeting, similar to learning in other activities like golf. The key to sustained improvement lies in practice and remembering specific feedback, such as not bending the wrist too much.
31:31 - I ask Bruce whether a rigid wrist is necessary for casting, and he explains that the wrist plays a crucial role in controlling the rod's casting arc. The combination of shoulder, elbow, and wrist movements is essential for an efficient cast, as using only the elbow can be tiring.
He also elaborates on how the flexibility of the rod affects wrist movement. A softer rod requires more wrist action, while a stiffer rod requires less. He also mentions that the weight of the line can change the dynamics; for example, using a heavier line on a stiff rod alters wrist usage.
33:13 - Bruce advises against using heavier rods than necessary unless the casting conditions demand it, such as in saltwater fishing where heavier lines are needed to cast heavy flies despite the fish not requiring such heavy equipment. The wind is another significant factor that complicates casting, making the right choice of rod and line even more critical.
35:16 - We go into step four of his six-step method which is about changing the body movements. Bruce describes a scenario where a wide, sloppy loop with an upward curve indicates a wide casting arc, often due to improper wrist movement. He emphasizes that while beginners might struggle to identify these issues on their own, instructors or more advanced casters can use the six-step method to troubleshoot and correct the cast. By narrowing the casting arc, the rod tip path becomes straighter, leading to a more efficient loop.
37:30 - Bruce recommends checking out the Fly Fishers International (FFI) website for valuable sources on loops. Specifically, he highlights a journal and newsletter called "The Loop Journal" which is available on the same website.
41:40 - We discuss the origins and development of the FFI certification program, which was initiated in 1990 and completed by 1992. Bruce collaborated with other prominent figures in the field, including Lefty Kreh, Joan Wulff, Gary Borger, and Chico Fernandez, among others to develop the program. The program has since become the leading and most respected certification for fly-casting instructors internationally.
43:03 - We dig into the FFI's certification process. Many aspiring instructors initially overestimate their casting skills until they undergo the program and realize the areas they need to improve. Bruce mentions that the time it takes to get certified varies; some individuals may take years, while others can achieve certification in about a year with focused effort and mentorship.
47:57 - We talk about what typically causes someone to create a tailing loop during casting. Bruce explains that the issue often arises when an angler tries to cast longer distances, around 60 to 65 feet. At this point, they might apply too much force at the end of their casting stroke. This extra punch causes the rod to bend excessively, leading the rod tip to curve down and create a tailing loop.
He elaborates that instead of adding force at the end of the stroke, the caster should begin accelerating the rod earlier in the casting stroke. This smooth, early acceleration distributes the force more evenly and prevents the tailing loop from forming.
50:54 - We discuss the evolution of sinking lines. Bruce shares his experience, noting that the original sinking lines were made by adding powdered lead to the coating, which was effective but problematic due to lead's toxicity.
Despite advancements, he also notes that the fundamental chemistry and process of making sinking lines have not drastically changed since the 1980s. Modern lines still use powdered tungsten, varying its amount to control the sinking rate. While design aspects may evolve, the core materials and methods remain similar, reflecting the robustness of the original innovations.
53:49 - We discuss tips and techniques for preparing for a dry fly fishing trip, particularly focusing on casting and presentation. Bruce highlights that the approach varies depending on the fishing environment. For instance, in slick water fishing locations like the Big Horn or Henry's Fork, it's crucial to know how to throw slack in the leader. Conversely, in windy conditions, it's essential to cast straight.
He also emphasizes the importance of making a great cast by placing the fly accurately while managing slack in the leader. He points out that many people throw nice loops but at too high a trajectory, which can be problematic in windy conditions. To address this, he advises adjusting the trajectory of both the front and back cast. By throwing the back cast high, it naturally makes the front cast low, ensuring a better delivery of the fly.
57:42 - I ask him how to maintain fly lines. He explains that contemporary lines, such as those from Scientific Anglers, can last significantly longer than older lines due to improved chemistry. While older lines would typically last 3-5 years before becoming stiff and cracking, he mentions having lines that are still functional after 15 years.
The key factors that can damage fly lines include exposure to excessive heat, sunlight, and solvents. Improper storage, such as leaving gear in a car trunk exposed to the sun, can lead to quicker degradation. Additionally, he emphasizes the importance of cleaning fly lines to maintain their performance. He gives some tips on how to clean them.
1:02:03 - We go into the evolution and impact of fly lines in the industry. Bruce highlights the significance of the GPX taper, describing it as a game-changer due to its half-size heavy design and innovative coating technology. Despite advances in sinking lines, Bruce notes that their market remains relatively small compared to floating lines.
1:06:25 - Bruce shares a memorable story about his first day working at Scientific Anglers in January 1976. He recounts receiving a welcoming phone call from Lefty Kreh which made a significant impact on him. This call not only welcomed Bruce to the industry but also marked the beginning of many friendships with the greats of fly fishing, whom he had long admired.
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Presented By: Togens Fly Shop
In this episode, we explore the journey of Brad Babich, who went from flipping auto parts to owning Togens Fly Shop almost overnight. We learn how he made the leap from corporate life to fly fishing and what sets Togens apart for its customers.Brad also takes us through the history of the shop, including his weekend trip from British Columbia to Colorado with thousands of products in tow and how he assist guests of the best fly tying materials even from a distance.
Episode Chapters with Brad Babich on Togens Fly Shop
1:26 - 2:04 Brad shares how he got into fly fishing. He started young, fishing with his dad using an antique fly rod. He describes his early experiences in Wisconsin and later, in Colorado, where he developed a deeper passion for fly fishing.
4:46 - 6:57 He then explains how he and his business partner came to own Togens Fly Shop. Initially, Brad was working in sales and marketing, but his partner found Togens for sale. After some quick decisions, they acquired the business and moved it from Canada to Colorado.
7:05 - 9:34Brad discusses what sets Togens apart, focusing on their wide range of fly tying materials and their fly pattern-specific kits.
10:28 - 15:26 He emphasizes the importance of personal customer service. Unlike many e-commerce businesses, Togens maintains a phone line, allowing customers, especially older ones, to place orders directly.
20:00 - 26:57 Brad discusses the variety of fly tying materials at Togens, like precut anesthetic bags and numerous bead options.
28:58 - 29:15 He also talks about expanding their reach by incorporating diverse fly patterns tied by their East Coast representative, Aiden, to cater to different regional fishing needs.
33:45 - 41:32 Brad discusses the logistics of running an online shop, focusing on the challenges of shipping. He mentions how Togens Fly Shop works hard to ensure fast and reliable shipping, even though it can be tough at times.
41:32-45:00 Brad discusses the critical role that customer feedback to lead improvements in their product offerings and customer service.
47:18 - 49:38 He then emphasizes that being open to criticism and willing to make changes has been essential to their success.
50:12 - 55:17 Brad recounts the trips he had that have led to some of the best ideas for new products and services. He values the face-to-face interactions and the chance to hear firsthand what customers love about Togens Fly Shop.
Conclusion with Brad Babich on Togens Fly Shop
Brad and Dave talked about how Togens Fly Shop stays on top of the ever-changing world of outsourced customer service. As the new owner, Brad explained how he stepped up to tackle the shop’s biggest challenge: keeping customers happy and engaged, even from a distance and how he hand picked the best fly tying materials for their satisfaction.
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Presented By: Togiak River Lodge, Waters West, Skwala, TroutRoutes
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In today's episode, we're diving deep into the world of spey fishing and bow hunting with George Cook, the man who brought spey fishing and spey rods to the United States. Renowned for his expertise, George travels the globe, collaborating with some of the biggest brands in the fishing industry. Having graced our podcast three times, he has shared invaluable insights on spey fishing, Chinook fishing, stillwaters, and more.
George will update us on the current state of spey fishing, discuss the latest trends in Chinook fishing, and share his optimism about the future of steelhead fishing. But that’s not all—his passion extends beyond the water to the fields, where he is also an accomplished hunter. He’ll be offering tips and tricks for archery and hunting this season, including how to successfully stock a buck and the three most important factors in casting a spey rod.
Episode Chapters with George Cook on Bow Hunting2:20 - George gives us an update since we had him on the podcast. He had a bow season in North America last fall and killed his all-time biggest meal in the winter.
6:20 - We talk about updates on Sage rods, particularly focusing on the latest models which were released last winter. George explains that the new series includes a variety of models ranging from five to ten weights in spey and seven to eight weights in switch rods, which he refers to as "baby spey."
12:52 - George advises on how to improve your spey game. He suggests that it depends on the person's location, particularly highlighting that there are many skilled instructors on the West Coast. He names notable instructors like Travis Johnson in Oregon, John Hazlett in Medford, and Charles St. Pierre in Tacoma, as well as De Hogan who offers traveling seminars. George emphasizes the importance of getting professional instruction, comparing it to other precision activities like golf and archery.
16:00 - We shift the conversation from spey fishing to hunting. George recounts his extensive experience in both fields. He started fly fishing at age 11 but only began hunting in college at Washington State University, which he describes as a prime location for pheasant hunting. His deer hunting career began slowly, with his first successful hunt occurring in his senior year.
19:28 - George describes a typical summer fishing, using the Deschutes River as an example. He explains that fishing usually starts early in the morning, from dawn until about 10:30 to 11:30 AM, when temperatures are cooler. During this time, anglers can use floating lines or intermediate leaders with traditional flies like the green butt skunk or streetwalker.
26:32 - He shares his transition from rifle hunting for 30 years to bow hunting in 2014. He explains that rifle hunting had become less challenging and more about the pursuit of larger game. Bow hunting, on the other hand, provided a fresh start and presented new challenges, such as needing to get much closer to the prey, which requires significant skill and patience.
32:37 - George highlights the accessibility and convenience of bow hunting, contrasting it with rifle hunting, which often requires more time and logistical planning. He appreciates the simplicity of stepping outside his home and being able to practice archery almost immediately.
He also provides an overview of the different types of bows available for those new to the sport, such as traditional longbows, recurves, compound, and self bows. He mentions that most bow hunters in the U.S. use compound bows and endorses Bowtech, a company known for its high-quality bows.
36:50 - We delve into introducing children to hunting, particularly focusing on the appropriate type of bow for young kids. George explains that there are entry-level bows designed for very young children, similar to toy bows with rubber stopper arrows. He then mentions more advanced options from Bowtech, which has a wide range of adjustable pull weights from 30 to 60 pounds, making it suitable as kids grow and gain strength.
43:00 - George recounts successful hunts in various states, including Oregon, Montana, South Dakota, and Mexico. He emphasizes the versatility required for hunting different types of deer, such as whitetails and Coues deer, using methods like tree stands and ground blinds.
44:06 - He highlights the numerous hunting opportunities available throughout the year, with early and late seasons in states like Oregon, Colorado, Nevada, Utah, Oklahoma, Texas, and Alabama.
48:18 - We talk about the intricacies of archery elk hunting. George explains that September is the prime time for hunting elk because it coincides with the rutting season when elk are very vocal and can be located by their calls. This period offers archers a better opportunity to get close and take a quality shot. Although challenging, bow hunting for elk and deer provides unique experiences and opportunities that are less available during rifle hunting seasons. He also gives some key tips for successful elk hunting.
1:01:57 - He describes how bow hunters practice for longer shots with antelope but aim to get as close as possible to deer. This involves meticulous planning and movement, often requiring stealth and environmental factors like wind and noise to avoid spooking the animal. He emphasizes the importance of knowing the deer's location and anticipating its movements, including understanding the deer's bedding habits and adjusting strategies accordingly.
1:06:26 - I ask George about his gear preferences. He emphasizes the importance of tools like OnX for identifying different types of land and the necessity of investing in quality optics such as binoculars and rangefinders, which he considers as critical as the hunting bow itself. He mentions some brands like Vortex and Leupold.
1:10:27 - Between hunting for mule deer and white-tailed deer, he prefers the former but mentions that he hunts more white-tailed deer due to availability. George then shares an impressive achievement: he is the only person to have hunted mule deer in all 17 states where they are native, completing the feat in 2019 in Oklahoma.
1:13:49 - We talk about his cats. One is a 22-pound main coon named Buddy Kitty and another small female named Wittle.
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Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory, Skwala, Visit Helena, MT, FishHound Expeditions
We’ve got Tom Bie, the editor of The Drake Magazine, back on the show. Tom's written about everything from the issues facing brown trout in the Grand Canyon to a wild story involving a dad and daughter busted by the FBI for selling synthetic weed. They even sued Tom for a quarter of a million dollars.
Strap on the seatbelt, grab your beverage, and get comfortable. Let's get into this one with Tom Bie!
Episode Chapters with Tom Bie on the Drake Magazine02:26 - We get an update on Tom and The Drake Magazine since our last episode with him in October 2020. We also dive into the challenges facing journalism today.
07:52 - Tom praises Monte Burke for his storytelling skills and how he lets people share their stories. He also talks about Monte's latest work on Nick Lyons.
14:24 - Tom also highlights Jon Krakauer, known for his gripping books like Into the Wild. Krakauer’s reporting on a Yosemite climber who committed serious crimes is a prime example of his courage and commitment to justice.
19:16 - We chat about the fish removal in the Grand Canyon. The issue revolves around removing brown trout to protect the native humpback chub. Tom highlights how this problem mirrors other areas, like Yellowstone.He explains that while protecting native species is important, it’s tough when their removal affects popular sport fish that have been around for decades. There’s also a bounty program where guides earn money for killing brown trout, which has led to the killing of over 6,000 fish.
35:49 - We discuss how changes in river flow and dam operations have impacted brown trout in the Grand Canyon. Starting around 2014, increased flow rates and historic high flows allowed more brown trout to migrate.
47:56 - We talk about ways to help with the fishing issues in the Grand Canyon and Yellowstone. Tom suggests people contact the National Park Service to express that killing sport fish might not be the best solution.
Inside the Drake Magazine
54:33 - Tom shares that he always includes at least one in-depth reported piece per issue of the Drake Magazine. While essays are popular with readers, he often gets way more essays than actual reporting stories.
Tom also explains that good reporting involves more than just writing; it needs interviews and research. He advises aspiring writers to use quotes from real conversations to improve their stories.
1:02:00 - Tom shares a crazy story about a father and daughter from Texas who got into big trouble for selling synthetic weed.
Tom even got sued for talking about it on a podcast! The family also bought the Deneki lodges in Alaska, which was part of the money laundering charges.
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Presented By: Visit Helena, MT, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Togiak River Lodge, Angler's Coffee
We're fly fishing Argentina today with Gustavo Hiebaum of Set Fly Fishing. He's here to tell us all about fishing for golden dorado in the eighth-largest country in the world.
We'll also explore Argentina's fly fishing, the culture, and the amazing outdoors. We're going to cover it all today!
Episode Chapters with Gustavo Hiebaum on Fly Fishing Argentina
02:18 - Gustavo got into fly fishing when he was eight during vacations in Northern Patagonia. By the age of eleven, he was tying his own flies, and by fourteen, he already knew that he was going to run his life around fly fishing.
Exploring Argentina05:35 - Argentina is the eighth-largest country in the world and the second-largest in South America after Brazil.
7:48 - Argentina is famous for its trout fishing, with rainbows, browns, and brook trout thriving since their introduction in 1904. But the country is most known for the Golden Dorado. There's also the Perca, a bass family fish.
11:34 - Argentina's population is about 40 million, with 70% living in Buenos Aires and the nearby areas. The rest of the country is less populated and perfect for fishing. While fly fishing isn't as popular in Buenos Aires, you can still catch fish like dorado in local ponds.
13:55 - Gustavo runs lodges in two main regions: the northeast and northern Patagonia. These spots are remote, about 700 to 1000 miles from the city, requiring a flight from Buenos Aires.
23:16 - For first-timers visiting Argentina, Gustavo recommends the Spring Creek Lodge in northern Patagonia, which is easy to get to from Buenos Aires.
The Thrill of Golden Dorado Fishing26:32 - Gustavo describes the golden dorado as an addictive catch because of its fierce and wild nature. This freshwater fish has a crazy mix of speed and power, kind of like a barracuda and shark combined.
They have sharp teeth and can eat prey twice their size in seconds. It’s a thrilling experience that’s similar to saltwater fishing.
29:13 - Gustavo talks about how they run three lodges in different environments, but the Ibera Wetlands is a standout spot for Golden Dorado.
The Ibera Wetlands in Argentina is a massive, crystal-clear paradise for fishing and wildlife watching. It’s like the Everglades but with clear freshwater.
37:29 - Gustavo talks about the huge Golden Dorado you can find in the upper Paraná River. These fish can grow up to 50 pounds, with some reaching nearly 70 pounds!
The Paraná River is massive, similar in size to the Mississippi River, and it eventually flows into Buenos Aires. The river is full of life, with dorado feeding on fish like the savalo.
42:15 - Gustavo talks about the variety of fish you can catch on the Upper Parana, like the paku and piapita.
50:02 - Gustavo explains that their fishing trips are flexible and tailored to their preferences.
They recommend starting at the Ysoro wetlands, which is like a nursery for smaller dorados, to get used to the fishing style. Then, you can head to the main Paraná for a shot at the bigger fish.
55:51 - The prime seasons for catching golden dorodo are September to November and mid-February to early May. Some visit in January and February to combine trout fishing in Patagonia with a dorado trip.
Set Fly Fishing
59:44 - Gustavo describes the amazing lodges SET Fly Fishing provides for golden dorado fishing. Each lodge offers a unique experience with great food and easy access to fishing.
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Today we'll have an exciting conversation with Nick Secrist on spring creek fishing! Nick shares practical strategies and techniques, including the dry dropper method and tips for identifying when fish are ready to eat. He also recommends some fly selection, rod preferences, and nymphing setups. Additionally, we explore the Mossy Creek Fly Shop, its services, and community initiatives.
Nick's passion for fishing promises to make this episode an invaluable resource for anyone looking to enhance their fishing skills. Dive in and join us on this journey through the spring creeks of Virginia!
Episode Chapters with Nick Secrist on Spring Creek Fishing1:36 - Nick shares his background in fishing, noting that he comes from a "fishy" family. He recalls an early photo of his dad fishing with him shortly after he was born and describes his family's fishing adventures, particularly offshore fishing.
4:44 - Nick briefly talks about the current fishing state. They are experiencing a drought similar to the one from the previous year, which is affecting the water levels and temperatures. Despite these challenges, the fishing for smallmouth bass, particularly on the South Fork of the Shenandoah River, is exceptional.
7:14 - Nick explains that Mossy Creek is unique due to its significant spring influence, cold water, and consistent fishing conditions throughout the year. He also mentions similar streams like Beaver Creek and Spring Run, which also have spring influences but may not be as consistently fishable as Mossy Creek.
8:30 - The conversation then shifts to smallmouth bass fishing. Nick outlines the peak smallmouth fishing season, which starts in late April and runs through September, with June, July, and August being the most consistent months for good fishing conditions.
11:25 - We discuss tips for spring creek fishing, specifically focusing on the technical aspects and nuances of fishing in Mossy Creek. Nick emphasizes that fishing in such environments can be challenging due to the unique micro drifts and currents caused by weed beds. He advises anglers to pay close attention to small channels and the drift of their lines, as simply casting into the middle of the creek is often ineffective.
13:36 - Nick talks about the dry dropper technique, especially during the spring and summer months. He explains that even if fish are not actively rising, there's still a good chance they will come up to take the dry fly. The dry dropper lands more naturally on the water and provides an opportunity for fish to strike. This technique is preferred over indicators in certain conditions, offering subtlety and a higher chance of success.
14:47 - He talks about the unique experience of fishing in spring creeks, particularly emphasizing the clear waters that allow anglers to see the fish. He also explains that while there are days with abundant catches, many people go to spring creeks for the challenge and satisfaction of sight fishing and having meaningful encounters with individual fish.
18:38 - Nick discusses how to identify when a fish is ready to eat. He explains that observing the fish's behavior in the water is key. Fish that are stationary at the bottom with closed mouths are likely not feeding, whereas fish that are more active, darting around and opening their mouths, are more likely to be in a feeding pattern.
He also shares tips on fishing techniques, particularly for Mossy Creek. He suggests that people often fish with streamers too slowly and nymphs too quickly. When streamer fishing, he advises making a few casts and then moving to find fish that are more willing to eat. Conversely, nymph fishing requires patience and precision due to the complexity of the creek's currents and depths. Persistence and varied techniques are necessary to catch fish with nymphs.
23:06 - He shares the patterns they use in fishing the Mossy Creek. He recommends using flies of different weights, sizes, and colors.
27:46 - Nick highlights the variety of streams available in their area, many of which are full of brook trout, thanks to the Blue Ridge and Allegheny mountain ranges. He also mentions the abundance of options within an hour’s drive, including both naturally occurring and stocked streams.
30:09 - We delve into the Mossy Creek Fly Shop owned by twin brothers, Brian and Colby. Nick explains that the shop offers both smallmouth and trout fishing trips. Smallmouth fishing is conducted via floating trips on rafts, covering five to ten miles of river depending on the route. These rafts provide flexibility, especially in areas with big bedrock or without boat ramps. Trout fishing, on the other hand, is done through walk-and-wade trips, suitable for the specific river conditions they encounter.
32:53 - Smallmouth fishing generally offers higher catch rates than trout fishing, even on less productive days. Nick elaborates that the Shenandoah River has a robust smallmouth population, making it possible to catch many fish, including smaller ones, with ease.
35:02 - Nick mentions that as temperatures drop in the fall, they pivot back to trout fishing due to the cooler temperatures and increased moisture, which makes the conditions favorable for trout. During the fall and winter, they engage in musky fishing, particularly in the South Fork and the James River.
38:26 - He shares that while they manage private stretches for guided trips, there is also a four-mile public section available, thanks to cooperative agreements with local landowners. He shares his experience of learning to fish in these waters and emphasizes the abundance of fishing options in the area.
44:11 - We dig into some key strategies for spring creek fishing. Nick suggests the importance of having a variety of flies to increase the chances of success. He also highlights the significance of achieving the right drift and being patient, as it can sometimes take considerable time to get the presentation just right. Nick notes that some fishing spots may require extended efforts, especially if they're complex, and advises anglers not to rush through but rather to adjust and refine their techniques as needed.
45:43 - Nick further elaborates on fly selection, mentioning specific types of flies suitable for the season and conditions. For instance, he recommends using dense flies for subsurface fishing and instant streamers. For dry fly fishing, he points out that a trico hatch is effective during early mornings throughout the summer. Additionally, he suggests using ants, beetles, hoppers, or PMX flies for blind fishing, as they have a larger profile and float well, making them attractive to opportunistic fish.
46:30 - He also emphasizes the importance of using longer rods, preferably eight and a half to nine feet. Longer rods help with mending and controlling the line over moss beds. Additionally, Nick advises using good floating lines and split shots for optimal nymph depth. He also mentions the importance of having a large net to accommodate the size of the fish one hopes to catch.
48:20 - Nick shares his typical nymphing setup, which involves using a 9ft 5wt rod and a nine-foot knotless tapered leader. He adjusts the tippet size based on the fishing conditions.
50:21 - He talks about his experience with fly tying, noting that his engagement with the hobby fluctuates. He uses a Renzetti Traveler vise, which he praises for its longevity and reliability, a sentiment echoed by Brian and Colby, who still use their vices bought at age 15. We had Lily Renzetti on the podcast in episode 486.
52:53 - We talk about vices and hobbies. Nick admits to having a coffee problem but reveals that his real obsession is tarpon fishing. He describes how he indulges this passion by reading books, listening to podcasts, and practicing his fishing techniques at home. He also goes on to share his upcoming travel plans centered around fishing.
55:23 - We talk about the Mossy Creek Mobile Fly Shop. The truck, resembling a retired UPS vehicle, has been fully outfitted with fly fishing gear, including spooling machines, lines, reels, rods, and flies. It features a distinctive Derek DeYoung trout wrap on the ceiling. Through the mobile fly shop, they aim to thank loyal customers and attract new ones by visiting various breweries across the state.
56:49 - Additionally, the Mossy Creek team collaborates with local Trout Unlimited chapters, Project Healing Waters, and other clubs to host events like fly tying competitions, further fostering community involvement. Dates and locations for the tour are available on their website.
58:31 - We talk a bit about the history of Virginia. Nick shares that he has been reading about historical figures like Daniel Boone and reflects on the historical significance of the local streams and landscapes. He also mentions that the fly shop was originally constructed in 1832, retaining much of its original wood, which adds to its historical charm. The shop is located in Harrisonburg, just a few blocks from the downtown area, making it a convenient and historically rich location for visitors.
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