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This week on Wrist Check Podcast, Perri and Rashawn sit down with Claudio Terjanian, President of Melb Americas and the man representing the avant-garde luxury watch brand H. Moser & Cie. In this engaging episode, Claudio offers a behind-the-scenes look into the world of Moser, showcasing their stunning 2024 novelties and unpacking the philosophy that drives their daring, rule-breaking approach to watchmaking.The conversation covers the creation and purpose of Moserland, the brand's playful yet innovative customer engagement hub, and Moser's unique position as a disruptive force in the watch industry. Claudio shares insights into the brand's remarkable growth and success, achieved by prioritizing creativity, craftsmanship, and authenticity over conventional norms.The trio also explores the broader impact of independent watchmakers, the rise of Moser’s cult following, and, of course, the buzz around Mark Zuckerberg’s latest acquisition of a Moser timepiece. Packed with humor, expertise, and passion for horology, this episode is a must-listen for anyone fascinated by the cutting edge of luxury watchmaking.
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Chapters00:00 - Intro01:14 - Wrist Check13:36 - H. Moser14:43 - What is MELB?18:23 - Moser Cultivating a Community22:26 - Moser Undefeated Collaboration26:25 - Moser and Studio UnderD0g34:39 - What is Moserland?39:19 - The inspiration behind the talking pieces44:49 - Mark Zuckerbergs H. Moser Streamliner53:17 - The Aventurine Endeavor Moser55:18 - Moser GPHG Winners01:00:35 - Looking ahead to 202501:04:10 - Outro
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In this episode of the Wrist Check Podcast, we sit down with designer, watch collector, and influencer Georgia Benjamin to explore her incredible journey in the world of horology. Georgia opens up about her first major watch purchase for her 30th birthday and how it sparked her passion for collecting vintage timepieces. She shares insights on being a woman in the watch industry, her obsession with Cartier’s rich history and design language, and the stories behind her enviable 30-piece collection.We also dive into the opportunities within fashion watch brands and what it takes to build an authentic voice as a watch influencer. Georgia treats the WCP team to a closer look at four very special gold watches from her collection, each with its own unique backstory. Whether you’re a seasoned collector or just starting your horological journey, this conversation is packed with inspiration, knowledge, and plenty of golden moments.
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Chapters00:00 - Intro01:02 - Wrist Check04:15 - Georgia's Rolex Cellini06:43 - How design influenced my collecting09:24 - Getting a Rolex Day-Date13:35 - Quickly Becoming a Collector17:09 - Collecting Vintage Watches17:52 - Falling For Cartier20:17 - Becoming an Influencer23:12 - YSL Watch25:15 - Whose Doing It Right?28:02 - Fashion Watches29:15 - Georgia's Piaget Dancer31:12 - Hosting Watch Events32:46 - How are watch brands responding33:49 - Wearing Watches In The Wild 36:29 - Watch Design Winner38:33 - Emilio Ballato Watch Stories 41:35 - Los Angeles Watch Community43:27 - Georgia's Two Tone Rolex DateJust 47:38 - Watch Collecting Mentor51:30 - Designing A Custom Tudor52:54 - Outro
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In this episode of the Wrist Check Podcast, we sit down with Cameron Barr, the visionary founder of Craft & Tailored, to explore his journey from collector to a leading vintage watch dealer. Cameron shares the story of selling his first watch and how it sparked a career in the world of horology. We dive into his insights from a Geneva panel on the transformative role of social media in the watch industry and the shifting dynamics with younger collectors entering the scene.Cameron also offers a rare glimpse into his personal collection, showcasing stunning timepieces and recounting his adventures traveling the globe in search of rare finds. Whether you're a seasoned collector or a curious newcomer, this episode delivers a masterclass in navigating the vintage watch market and the art of collecting.This episode is powered by Bezel. A platform for luxury watches, where you can buy, sell, trade, and even bid on watches up for auction. Follow the links below for more.Shop 20,000+ watches at get bezel.com
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Chapters00:00 - Intro01:02 - Wrist Check06:30 - Cam's entry into watch collecting 11:16 - First Watch Sale16:35 - Trends, Discovery, and Hype Watches24:47 - Market Volatility and Watch Investments 28:29 - Social Media Impact36:58 - Checking out Cam's Watches55:36 - Outro
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In this episode of Wrist Check Pod, Perri shares highlights from his trip to Geneva, including attending the prestigious GPHG ceremony—an award show celebrating the best in watchmaking—and an insider's tour of Kross Studio's cutting-edge manufacturing and design hub. The crew dives into the watch world's hottest debate: the divisive Royal Oak Concept collaboration between Audemars Piguet and artist Kaws. They also visit Sotheby’s to check out Tom Brady’s incredible "GOAT Collection," set to hit the auction block on December 10th. And, of course, they don’t hold back on their latest beef with Bremont. Tune in for all the horological drama and insider insights!This episode is powered by Bezel. A platform for luxury watches, where you can buy, sell, trade, and even bid on watches up for auction. Follow the links below for more.Shop 20,000+ watches at get bezel.com
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Chapters00:00 - Intro00:52 - Wrist Check06:22 - Holiday Special07:50 - Kross Studio Tour11:48 - GPHG Ceremony22:46 - AP Kaws Release34:12 - Sothebys Tom Brady Auction41:44 - Beef wit Bremont Watches
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In this exciting episode of the Wrist Check Podcast, Perri and Rashawn reunite for an engaging conversation with Ben, the creator behind Ben's Watches. A rising star in the watch community, Ben shares his journey from a middle school fascination with bracelets to building a platform that bridges the gap between seasoned collectors and newcomers.We dive into his vintage Tudor Snowflake, discuss his collecting philosophy, and explore the impact of Gen Z on the future of luxury watches. With authenticity and passion, Ben offers insights into making watches accessible, flipping timepieces, and fostering inclusivity in the horological world.Plus, discover the team’s latest wrist-check picks, stories of nostalgic timepieces, and thoughts on modern watch trends. Don’t miss this candid conversation with one of the most relatable voices in watches today.This episode is powered by Bezel. A platform for luxury watches, where you can buy, sell, trade, and even bid on watches up for auction. Follow the links below for more.
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Chapters00:00 - Intro01:04 - Wrist Check09:23 - Creating Ben's Watches14:22 - Becoming An Influencer 15:58 - Accessibility17:40 - Watch Community19:07 - Future Collectors22:30 - Trends28:56 - Facing The Public32:46 - Style Of Content34:11 - Rewarding Experiences35:58 - Transparency43:09 - Future Of Ben's Watches
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In this episode of the Wrist Check Podcast, Perri and Rashawn sit down with vintage watch experts Eric Wind and Charlie Dunne, who share exciting news about their upcoming book, The Modern Guide to Vintage Watches. Eric and Charlie discuss their mission to make vintage watches accessible to both seasoned collectors and newcomers, bridging the gap in the market for a comprehensive, yet approachable, guide.They dive into the philosophy and artistry behind collecting, touching on the allure of iconic models, the mystique of tropical dials, and the nuances of watch condition that can drive collector demand. Plus, they reveal insights into pricing rare pieces, like Speedmasters with tropical dials, and explain why details like sharp lugs and unpolished cases matter.Join us for a fascinating look at the evolution of vintage watch collecting, the importance of quality over quantity, and some behind-the-scenes stories about their journey together as co-authors and colleagues in the world of high-end horology.This episode is powered by Bezel. A platform for luxury watches, where you can buy, sell, trade, and even bid on watches up for auction. Follow the links below for more.
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Chapters00:00 - Intro01:40 - Wrist Check07:50 - Collaborating on a book10:44 - Meeting each other15:31 - The Esquire Article18:20 - Discussing Tropical Dials23:20 - How to price vintage28:28 - Expanding Client Base31:08 - Wind Vintage Web Store33:42 - Modern Watches38:32 - Moved Coin Watch40:12 - New surprises in vintage44:58 - Newbies to vintage watches46:53 - 1675 GMT Rolex50:20 - Blueberry GMT Legend51:44 - Rolex and vintage servicing54:14 - Buying Opportunities in Vintage56:16 - Linen Dial DateJust
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In this episode of WCP Weekly, Perri and Rashawn break down the action-packed New York Watch Week! They kick things off with a recap of the biggest fairs and the exclusive Wrist Check Podcast events with Ulysse Nardin and Watch Makers United. Then, they dive into the latest industry drama surrounding the controversial new Patek Philippe release, the Cubitus, which is already stirring up the secondary market. Hear what Patek's Thierry Stern has to say about the buzz! The conversation continues with a look at Roger Dubuis' stunning Omniscient Merlin launch, Perri’s Chicago trip to link up with rapper Westside Gunn for some watch talk, and finally, Tudor's fresh FXD GMT release. From exclusive insider stories to hot industry news, this episode has it all for watch lovers and collectors alike. Don’t miss it—subscribe and stay tuned for more horological insights!
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Chapters00:00 - Intro01:13 - Wrist Check09:53 - Future Of Watchmaking11:59 - NY Watch Week Wind Up15:48 - NY Watch Week WCP Events17:53 - Fred Savage Rolex Commando20:18 - Watchmakers United23:59 - Patek Philippe Cubitus33:10 - Cubitus Bezel Auction36:06 - Thierry Stern's Response37:24 - Roger Dubuis47:24 - Westside Gunn53:47 - Tudor FXD GMT Release
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In this exclusive interview, we sit down with Eddie Goziker, the co-founder of Wrist Aficionado, to discuss his unconventional path into the luxury watch industry. Eddie shares how his early interest in watch collecting and a career in dentistry set the stage for a successful venture into the grey market watch world. He delves into the challenges of moving from wholesale to retail, the insights gained from opening his first brick-and-mortar store, and how he weathered the storms of the COVID-19 pandemic. Join us for an inspiring conversation about resilience, passion, and navigating the high-stakes luxury market.This episode is powered by Bezel. A platform for luxury watches, where you can buy, sell, trade, and even bid on watches up for auction. Follow the links below for more.
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In this episode of the Wrist Check Podcast, Perri and Rashawn sit down with Rotimi Balogun, a Nigerian-born watch collector and entrepreneur based in Ottawa, Canada. Rotimi shares his journey from starting out as a passionate collector to launching his own successful watch brand. He dives into the design process, how his engineering background plays a key role in his creations, and the challenges he faced building a global brand from the ground up. Tune in for insights into the world of independent watchmaking and entrepreneurship!This episode is powered by Bezel. A platform for luxury watches, where you can buy, sell, trade, and even bid on watches up for auction. Follow the links below for more.
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In this special episode of Wrist Check Pod, Perri sits down with renowned vintage watch dealer Roy Davidoff at his shop in Geneva, Switzerland during Geneva Watch Days. Though Roy specializes in vintage timepieces, he has a fascinating passion for collecting modern watches. Join us as Roy shares his collecting philosophy, his deep obsession with the Omega Speedmaster, and the stories behind iconic brands like Jacob & Co.Stick around till the end where Roy showcases some incredible watches and stores, including the new MAD 1S, a Comet Rolex Submariner, and a Cartier Bagnoire. Watch enthusiasts, this is an episode you won’t want to miss!
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n this episode of the Wrist Check Podcast, hosts Perri and Rashawn dive into the latest happenings in the watch world. They kick things off by discussing the exciting Bulova movie screening, exploring its connection to the brand's storied history and how it resonates with watch enthusiasts. Perri shares insights from his recent visit to Audemars Piguet's AP House, where he got a first-hand look at the latest novelties and innovations from the iconic Swiss manufacturer.The conversation continues with a recap of a vibrant watch meet in Detroit, organized in collaboration with CP Time, highlighting the camaraderie among collectors and enthusiasts. Perri also reflects on his experience during a fascinating factory tour with Shinola, delving into the intricacies of watchmaking and American craftsmanship behind the scenes.To wrap things up, they provide a hot take on Girard Perregaux's Laureato, praising its design and discussing why it stands out in today’s market. Join them for a lively and informative episode packed with industry insights, personal stories, and their unique perspectives on the world of horology!This episode is powered by Bezel. A platform for luxury watches, where you can buy, sell, trade, and even bid on watches up for auction. Follow the links below for more.
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n this episode of Wrist Check Pod, Charity Mhende of Pulse on The Wrist joins Perri and Rashawn as a guest co-host to chat with Kristen Shirley, founder of La Patiala. Kristen shares how her platform has become a go-to resource for everything luxury, from fashion and watches to travel and lifestyle. She discusses her approach to simplifying complex industry terms and how she educates her audience across all categories of the luxury landscape. Tune in for an insightful conversation about demystifying luxury and making it more accessible to everyone!This episode is powered by Bezel. A platform for luxury watches, where you can buy, sell, trade, and even bid on watches up for auction. Follow the links below for more.
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Chapters
00:00 - Intro
01:23 - Honorary Wrist Check
04:55 - Get Bezel
05:32 - Becoming a luxury writer
07:57 - The inspiration behind La Patiala
09:20 - Creating the watch encyclopedia
11:07 - How the luxury market has changed
13:26 - Which brands are doing a good job
15:09 - Bezel Auctions
15:27 - WCP Travel Case
16:02 - Kristen shares her dads Patek Philippe
17:20 - Investing in watches
20:14 - Philosophy on collecting24:41 - Trends at Watches & Wonders
30:10 - Reissuing the watch encyclopedia
31:30 - Women and Gen Z
36:22 - Special Request
38:10 - Vision for La Patiala
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In this episode of the Wrist Check Podcast, Perri and Rashawn travel to Geneva, Switzerland, to meet with Pierre Biver of Biver Watches. They dive into the founding of the brand alongside his father, the legendary Jean-Claude Biver, and explore how they've built a unique identity through innovative product design. The conversation touches on their business strategy, the core principles driving their culture, and the significance of creating timepieces with the intention of lasting for generations. Tune in for an inside look at the values and vision behind one of the most exciting new brands in horology.
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Welcome to WCP Weekly, your go-to bi-weekly update on everything happening in the watch industry, hosted by Wrist Check Podcast duo Perri and Rashawn. Join us as we dive into the world of horology, covering the latest new releases, major industry news, the pulse of the secondary market, watches making waves in pop culture, and exclusive behind-the-scenes intel before it goes public. In this week's episode, the guys reunite after Perri’s return from Geneva Watch Days in Switzerland, where they discuss exciting new releases from Jacob & Co. and H. Moser & Cie, Perri’s experience at an intimate event hosted by Michael Friedman, and how watch collecting is emerging as a mainstream cultural phenomenon. Plus, they break down the controversy surrounding Soulja Boy's fake Patek Philippe Nautilus!
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Chapters00:00 - Intro00:31 - Rashawn's Wrist Check01:57 - Perri's Wrist Check04:46 - Get Bezel Today05:22 - Geneva Watch Days Recap07:13 - Visiting the Jacob & Co Boutique15:55 - Michael Friedman Private Event18:15 - Jonesing for a Daniel Roth 19:53 - Honorable Mentions: Vacheron and Oris22:29 - WCP Travel Case 23:04 - Bezel Auctions23:22 - H. Moser x Material Good Piece Unique24:53 - Watch Collecting Going Mainstream27:21 - Moser will be an industry game changer28:49 - Moser x Studio Underdog Collar34:12 - MoonSwatch Now Available Online 36:00 - Soulja Boy Gets Caught with Fake Patek Phillippe41:03 - OutroKeywords: luxury watches, rolex, hodinkee, luxury timpieces, wrist check, grey market, grand seiko, omega, Paris, olympics, rolex, bezel, the watch market, collecting watches, patek Philippe, hodinkee radio, Soulja boy, h moser, studio underdog, moonswatch, moon swatch, Daniel Roth, micheal Friedman, Vacheron, oris, Geneva watch days, fake watches, rapper watches
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*Episode Title: Watch World Shake-Up: Hodinkee’s Big Move, Rolex CPO Impact, & Summer 2024 Releases!*In this episode of Wrist Check Podcast, Perri and Rashawn gather in their new studio (still under construction) to dive into the latest happenings in the watch world. From Hodinkee's shocking decision to sell off their pre-owned business and Ben Clymer's heartfelt message about getting back to basics, to the impact of Rolex's Certified Pre-Owned program on the collector’s experience—there's a lot to unpack. Rashawn offers a firsthand look at the current state of the market through the eyes of his clients, while Perri keeps us updated on the latest watch releases from Grand Seiko and Omega during the Paris Olympics.The conversation doesn’t stop there! The guys wrap things up by sharing their personal philosophies on collecting, offering a unique perspective for both seasoned collectors and newcomers alike. Whether you're into luxury timepieces or just want to stay informed on the latest industry trends, this episode has it all. Tune in now to Wrist Check Podcast—you won’t want to miss it!
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Chapters00:00 - Intro00:40 - Wrist Check02:25 - Hodinkee11:17 - Bezel Auction11:35 - State of the watch market15:21 - The impact of Rolex Certified Preowned20:00 - New Releases: Grand Seiko28:43 - Omega Paris Olympics Releases35:32 - Different approaches on collectingKeywords: luxury watches, rolex, hodinkee, luxury timpieces, wrist check, grey market, grand seiko, omega, Paris, olympics, rolex, bezel, the watch market, collecting watches, patek Philippe, hodinkee radio
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In this episode of the Wrist Check Podcast, the crew visits renowned entrepreneur and grey market dealer Roman Sharf at Luxury Bazaar, an online luxury watch retailer. The episode kicks off with an exclusive behind-the-scenes tour of the Luxury Bazaar facility, where viewers get an inside look at the operation and meet the dedicated team that keeps everything running smoothly. Along the way, the crew explores some of the unique and fascinating artifacts from luxury watch memorabilia to an F1 Race Car in the middle of the office, and more Roman has collected over the years, adding an extra layer of intrigue to the visit.The episode then dives into an in-depth sit-down interview with Roman Sharf, where he opens up about his journey from immigrating to the United States as a child to becoming a major player in the luxury watch business. Roman discusses his early days in the industry, the importance of family values, pivoting to creating content as a means of scaling his business, and much more. This episode is a must-watch for anyone interested in luxury watches, entrepreneurship, and the grey market.
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Title: Exploring Luxury Watches with Ini Archibong: H. Moser & Cie, Patek Philippe, F.P. Journe, Rolex & More!Description:In this episode of the Wrist Check Podcast, hosts Perri and Rashawn sit down with renowned industrial designer Ini Archibong during their visit to Geneva, Switzerland, for the prestigious luxury watch trade show, Watches and Wonders. They delve into Ini's unique design philosophy and his passion for collecting high-end timepieces from iconic brands such as H. Moser & Cie, Patek Philippe, F.P. Journe, and Rolex.Ini also shares the story behind his collaboration with the luxury Parisian brand Hermès, creating a stunning wristwatch right after graduating from design school. Plus, get an inside scoop on his exciting new project with hip-hop legends Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg, as they team up to launch their new adult beverage, Gin and Juice. Join us for an insightful conversation about luxury watches, design, and creativity!
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Chapters
00:00 - Intro02:07 - Rashawn Wrist Check04:20 - Perri Wrist Check05:46 - Bezel06:23 - Ini Wrist Check08:20 - Path to Switzerland10:10 - Design Philosophy13:34 - Designing with Empathy16:19 - Appreciation for watch design19:28 - F.P. Journe Chronometre Souverain Black Label26:20 - Bezel Auction27:13 - Journe's Design Language31:36 - Slim d'Hermès34:35 - Working with Hermès37:29 - Designing the Galop d'Hermès52:22 - Designing for Dr. Dre and Snoop58:15 - Outro
Keywords: luxury watches, Ini Archibong, Watches and Wonders, H. Moser & Cie, Patek Philippe, F.P. Journe, Rolex, Hermès, luxury timepieces, wristwatch design, Gin and Juice, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, high-end watches, watch collection, watch trade show, design philosophy, Wrist Check Podcast, high-end timepieces, watch history, watch reviews, talking watches.688.721
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In this episode of Wrist Check Pod, the guys catch up with Los Angeles native and creative, Matthew Baus, co-founder of the Bad Habit music label. Known for acts like The NBHD, G-Eazy, and Burna Boy, Matthew shares his journey to success, from founding the label to discovering Nigerian Afrobeats music sensation Burna Boy. They dive into his introduction to watch collecting, discussing iconic brands like Rolex and Cartier, his regret over passing up a Cartier Crash, and the story of how Burna Boy lost a $75k bustdown Audemars Piguet Royal Oak early in his career. Don't miss this fascinating conversation!This episode is powered by Bezel. A platform for luxury watches, where you can buy, sell, trade, and even bid on watches up for auction. Follow the links below for more.
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Chapters
00:00 - Intro00:49 - Honorary Wrist Check04:34 - Bezel05:10 - Wrist Check Continued07:25 -Matthew on finding his calling15:12 - Becoming a creative director for NBHD27:37 - Founding the Bad Habit Label with Mentor31:40 - Bezel Auctions31:58 - WCP x Wolf Travel Case32:33 - Discovering Burna Boy and losing a $75k watch39:00 - Matthew purchases his first Rolex43:42 - Vintage Rolex Datejust48:49 - Cartier Basculante51:14 - Burna Boy talks Matthew out of buying a Cartier Crash55:20 - Conversation Pieces
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In this episode, Perri and Rashawn head west to catch up with Larry June before the release of his new album. Filmed at the world-famous Barcha Restaurant in downtown San Francisco, they dive into the early days of Larry June's career, discussing his starter watches, the cultural impact of the Bay Area, and how it shaped his passion for luxury timepieces. They also showcase some standout pieces from Larry's collection, including an Audemars Piguet Royal Oak, a Rolex Day-Date, and the renowned Patek Philippe Aquanaut reference 5968A, featured on the cover of his album "The Great Escape" with Alchemist.Larry June, a hip-hop artist and entrepreneur from San Francisco's Bayview Hunters Point neighborhood, raps about mental health, wellness, generational wealth, and his love for luxury sports cars and watches. Beyond music, Larry owns multiple real estate properties on the West Coast and in Atlanta, Georgia, and has a growing clothing and accessories line called Midnight Organic.
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Chapters
00:00 - Intro01:08 - Wrist Check 04:13 - Bezel Auctions04:32 - Collecting Vintage08:34 - Discovering watches 09:19 - Bay Area Culture & Watches12:30 - Collecting other brands13:52 - The Luxury Enthusiast17:50 - Family Interest in watches19:14 - Bezel App19:50 - WCP Travel Case20:25 - Brand & Business Building25:40 - Larry's AP 15202 Royal Oak28:45 - Larry's Meteorite Platinum Day-Date31:06 - First Big Watch32:28 - Yesterdays price, not todays price33:12 - Using the Patek on the album cover35:08 - Very Organic Growth37:02 - Are you a collector?38:42 - Richard Mille39:49 - Trivia: Skip, Keep, Flip47:17 - Outro
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In this captivating episode, Perri and Rashawn journey to Geneva, Switzerland, to attend the prestigious Watches and Wonders event. They catch up with Martin Frei, the brilliant founder and lead designer of Urwerk.Tune in as they dive into the fascinating early days of Urwerk, uncovering Martin's unique design process, his philosophy, and his innovative approach to product creation. Discover how Martin and his partner Felix draw inspiration from the past and envision the future to craft modern marvels that transform our experience of perceiving time.
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Chapters
00:00 - Bezel00:35 - Intro00:48 - Welcome02:00 - Wrist Check08:19 - The early days12:08 - Urwerk was an art project14:02 - Rethinking the time display15:46 - Uurwerk is modern art18:03 - Discovering new aspects of time21:18 - Wrist watches no longer bound by time23:24 - Using experience to inform new designs27:08 - Embracing technology31:14 - Bezel31:32 - WCP x Wolf32:07 - Supporters of Urwerk34:00 - Tradition vs Science37:25 - Doing it differently38:23 - New Novelties - Lightspeed45:38 - Urwerk 100V Space Time 49:34 - Designing the unseen51:19 - Urwerk 230 Eagle56:12 - The wrist watch is man and machine57:48 - Having an identity59:15 - The Future
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