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    Martyn Clark asks how economists factor idiosyncratic, unpredictable human behavior into their abstract modeling. Young Törless asks Glenn to weigh in on the presidential candidates’ approaches to—or avoidance of—the problem of the national debt. BB asks Glenn which economic theories or concepts haven’t stood the test of time. Stan asks what three policies would make the biggest difference in improving the lives of black people. Eli asks if technological progress and our ever-increasing knowledge about the world may end up being a bad thing for humanity. Luke Englund asks if the conservative movement has compromised too much for the sake of Donald Trump. And finally, therealnewyorker asks what issues I would feel compelled to talk about if racial politics disappeared tomorrow.

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    0:59 Glenn debuts his new studio

    2:34 Life after academia

    13:02 The challenge of having a lot of time on your hands

    18:10 John’s new musical endeavors

    20:20 Ground News ad

    22:38 John’s forthcoming book, Pronoun Trouble: The Story of Us in Seven Little Words

    25:07 Glenn and John form an impromptu book club

    29:43 The first class of post-Students for Fair Admissions college freshmen

    36:22 Are black students being shut out of the upper echelons of American society?

    40:33 The Supreme Court’s “indirect beneficial endowment” to HBCUs

    46:42 Glenn: “The wheel is turning” on race politics in America

    52:18 ACTA ad

    54:26 Plagiarism in Robin DiAngelo’s dissertation

    57:02 John: I don’t recognize the world that Danzy Senna and Ketanji Brown Jackson describe, even though I lived in it

    1:04:07 Did Thomas Chatterton Williams really say what he said to Danzy Senna?

    Recorded September 8, 2024

    Links and Readings

    The Rest Is History on Apple Podcasts

    Preorder John’s forthcoming book, Pronoun Trouble: The Story of Us in Seven Little Words

    David Kaiser’s book, States of the Union: A History of the United States through Presidential Addresses, 1789-2023

    David Kaiser discusses his book States of the Union on TGS

    Sari Nusseibeh’s memoir, Once Upon a Country: A Palestinian Life

    David Greenberg’s forthcoming book, John Lewis: A Life

    Danzy Senna’s novel, Colored Television

    Percival Everett’s novel, James

    Ketanji Brown Jackson’s memoir, Lovely One

    John’s book, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black America

    Michelle Obama’s DNC speech

    Thomas Chatterton Williams’s book, Self-Portrait in Black and White: Unlearning Race



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    0:59 How Harry met Glenn

    3:44 Black girls and women are doing relatively well. Why aren’t black boys and men?

    11:21 Harry: Some of the barriers are structural, some are cultural

    18:20 The crude toolkit for fixing child support

    25:15 Black teachers, tutoring, and “high-quality career and tech ed”

    31:44 In schools, one size doesn’t fit all

    35:22 Three ways to improve employment prospects

    39:10 Glenn asks “the Chicago question”

    42:09 Discrimination against ex-convicts

    50:38 Immigration’s impact on black employment

    53:29 Are too many people in prison?

    56:07 Harry: Progressives are oblivious to the backlash they generate

    Recorded August 20, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Harry and Glenn’s conversation about “racism, narratives, and backlash” with the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston

    Harry and Richard J. Freeman’s 1986 edited collection, The Black Youth Employment Crisis

    Melissa Kearney’s book, The Two-Parent Privilege: How Americans Stopped Getting Married and Started Falling Behind

    Isabel V. Sawhill’s book, Generation Unbound: Drifting into Sex and Parenthood without Marriage

    Douglas Harris’s book, Charter School City: What the End of Traditional Public Schools in New Orleans Means for American Education

    Glenn’s paper with Young-Chul Kim, “Rebranding Ex-Convicts”

    William Julius Wilson’s book, The Declining Significance of Race: Blacks and Changing American Institutions



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    1:28 John heads back to the linguistic woodshed

    3:55 Glenn’s nascent retirement plan

    4:23 Glenn and John’s late summer reading

    11:58 The “joy” of the Democratic National Convention

    17:47 Ground News ad

    20:11 The oratorical panache of the Obamas

    25:37 John: What’s the point of all this performative joy?

    30:16 Keywords from the DNC: “Weird”

    34:17 Keywords from the DNC: “Freedom”

    41:48 Keywords from the DNC: “Joy”

    44:25 Keywords from the DNC: “Fight”

    46:03 ACTA ad

    47:52 Glenn’s distrust of Kamala’s candidacy

    52:42 Why Glenn puts the “Hussein” in “Barack Hussein Obama”

    56:04 RFK Jr’s endorsement of Donald Trump

    1:04:51 Coming soon: Breakfast with the Lourys

    Recorded August 25, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Percival Everett’s novel, James

    Harriet Beecher Stowe’s novel, Uncle Tom’s Cabin

    James Baldwin’s essay, “Everybody’s Protest Novel”

    Ta-Nehisi Coates’s memoir, Between the World and Me

    Alex Haley’s novel, Roots: The Saga of an American Family

    Barack Obama’s DNC speech

    Michelle Obama’s DNC speech

    Oprah Winfrey’s DNC speech

    John’s NYT column, “The Hidden Grammatical Reason That ‘Weird’ Works”



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    In this month's Substack subscriber-only Q&A session, Glenn and John tackle questions about supporting the Democratic Party, the departure of Columbia University's president, the Gaza War, Kamala Harris's promise to fight "price gouging" and more.

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    0:20 Stephanie’s new video series, Faces of X

    4:18 Glenn: “You’re taking all the fun out of the culture war”

    7:30 Could we have had modernity without capitalism?

    17:28 Glenn: You’re taking a side in the debate without admitting it

    20:35 What comes after “heterodoxy”?

    24:10 Stephanie: Seeing race as a lie may be the greatest reparation of all

    32:32 Glenn: Calling race a construction doesn’t get us “past race”

    38:23 Race in the next century

    42:42 Transcending race without abandoning it

    46:20 Awe and humility as spiritual necessities

    Recorded August 13, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Glenn’s previous TGS episode with Stephanie

    Find Stephanie on X: @stephlepp

    Glenn’s 2016 conversation with Stephanie on Reckonings

    Faces of X

    Faces of X, “Can We Reframe the Capitalism Debate”

    Faces of X, “Can We Reframe the Race Debate”

    Glenn’s conversation with Greg Thomas, “A Future for Black Tradition”



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    1:05 John: A Kamala Harris presidency won’t improve the discourse on race

    9:12 Glenn: Kamala Harris is no Barack Obama

    14:44 Why Glenn just can’t excited about a Harris presidency

    18:07 Ground News

    20:40 How Kamala measures up to Obama under the spotlight

    23:07 Kamala’s code switching

    25:50 Building the black political persona

    33:51 White Ladies and White Dudes for Kamala

    40:39 Are there white Sonya Masseys?

    45:55 ACTA

    48:03 Walz’s war on “weird”

    48:14 The Dems get their hands dirty

    55:48 Trump’s near-death experience that wasn’t

    Recorded August 9, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Barack Obama’s memoir, Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance

    Trump’s on-stage interview before the National Association of Black Journalists

    NYT story about Trump’s alleged helicopter ride



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  • My lovely wife LaJuan and I appeared on the Due Dissidence podcast with Keaton Weiss and Russell Dobular, and we're re-presenting it here. You’ll hear us discuss my memoir and how all of our upbringings influenced our politics, free speech and the Gaza War protests, the decline of the Civil Rights Movement, Clarence Thomas, abortion, economic regulation, capitalism and socialism, Kamala Harris, Trumps’s appearance at the NABJ conference, and more.



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    1:32 Glenn's intro

    3:10 Glenn's case against the Democrats

    14:06 Why is Cornel West running for president?

    18:58 A black, conservative defense of Trumpism

    25:29 A leftist analysis of Trump's rising popularity among black men

    30:45 Glenn's early call for Biden to step down

    36:25 Trump's debate style

    41:36 Glenn: Biden is a "singularly uninspiring" political figure

    49:11 The presidential debate post-mortem

    55:45 The “DEI” candidates



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    1:08 John’s work with Braver Angels

    8:16 How Braver Angels gets its business done

    13:09 Trying to bridge the partisan divide

    20:27 Do some issues require taking sides?

    27:37 Braver Angels's approach to the immigration issue

    31:37 John: “Trump is more symptom than cause”

    38:47 Are some political conflicts unavoidable?

    41:38 John: “What we need in America is a ... spiritual transformation in our attitudes toward one another”

    50:30 Braver Angels's American Hope Campaign

    Recorded on July 25, 2025

    Links and Readings

    Glenn’s 2020 conversation with John

    Braver Angels

    A Braver Way podcast

    Eliza Taylor Hawkins’s report, “Depolarizing During the Pandemic”

    Braver Angels’s Trustworthy Elections Report

    John’s speech before Braver Angels’s 2023 National Convention

    Thomas Sowell’s book, Black Rednecks & White Liberals

    Braver Angels’s American Hope Campaign



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    John and Glenn are back for the latest Q&A session, where they take questions asked by Substack subscribers. Topics include antisemitism, Biden's withdrawal from the presidential race, Kamala Harris's entry into same, and dinosaurs.

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    In this excerpt from the Memoir Tapes—recordings that served as the basis for Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative—Glenn describes the baroque procedures he would use in order to buy and cook crack.

  • 2:19 John apologizes for his previous statement about Trump and assassination, and Glenn reaffirms their friendship

    7:21 Glenn: “We literally dodged a bullet”

    9:09 John: Going MAGA is taking the easy political route

    11:06 Glenn: There are good reasons to support some of Trump’s policies, if not his rhetoric

    18:57 Does the 2024 election have a “summer of 2020” vibe?

    23:38 Ground News ad

    25:58 The fantasy Kamala Harris / Corey Booker ticket

    33:27 Is “Make America Nice Again” a compelling campaign message?

    38:22 Is “Trump is a threat to democracy” a lexically inept slogan?

    45:53 It’s time for Biden to step down

    49:50 John: “I'm honestly glad the assassin missed”

    54:49 Do Glenn and John need couples counseling?

    Recorded July 20, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Andrew Napolitano’s conversation with John Mearsheimer

    Andrew Napolitano conversation with Jeffrey Sachs

    Evan Vucci’s iconic post-assassination attempt photo of Trump and Secret Service agents

    John’s NYT column, “Why Are Democrats Speaking to America in Ancient Greek?”

    George Orwell’s essay, “Politics and the English Language”

    Larry Kotlikoff’s Substack post, “Biden Must Step Aside—This Week!”

    Yascha Mounk’s Substack, Persuasion

    Glenn’s conversation with Yasha Mounk



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    Glenn and the team discuss the use of independent podcasts as platforms for world leaders and the use and misuse of AI translations and voice simulations.

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    2:29 Have we already forgotten the horror of October 7?

    9:22 Ben: We can’t ignore the loss of innocent life in Gaza

    13:58 “From the river to the sea” and “all lives matter”

    22:00 Celebrating the deaths of Israelis

    26:31 Drawing the line at BDS

    33:05 Glenn: If you want free speech, prepare to be uncomfortable

    37:44 Columbia University administrators put on leave after allegedly antisemitic text messages

    41:41 How Glenn discovered Benjamin’s work

    47:40 The social meaning of race

    51:01 The invitation to empathy in Late Admissions

    59:02 Benjamin’s work with the Inside-Out Prison Exchange Program

    Recorded July 10, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Benjamin’s book, Juror’s Stories of Death: How America’s Death Penalty Invests in Inequality

    Benjamin’s book, Dying Inside: The HIV/AIDS Ward at Limestone Prison

    Benjamin’s book, Disposable Heroes: The Betrayal of African American Veterans

    Glenn’s conversation with Omer Bartov

    Glenn’s book, Race, Incarceration, and American Values

    Glenn’s book, The Anatomy of Racial Inequality

    Erving Goffman’s book, Stigma: Notes on the Management of Spoiled Identity

    Erving Goffman’s book, The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life

    Robert Putnam’s book, Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community

    Orlando Patterson’s book, Slavery and Social Death: A Comparative Study

    Coleman Hughes’s book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America

    Eduardo Bonilla-Silva’s book, Racism without Racists: Color-Blind Racism and the Persistence of Racial Inequality in America

    Glenn’s conversation with his son, Glenn Loury II

    The Inside-Out Prison Exchange Student



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  • 1:18 John: Biden probably should not be running for president

    7:47 Who’s running the country?

    11:17 Presidential b******t

    13:35 Ground News ad

    15:56 Is Kamala up to the big job?

    22:44 Kamala’s questionable climb to the top

    27:53 The NYT Editorial Board’s surprising call for Biden to drop out

    33:50 Trump at Gettysburg

    35:45 Trump’s victory is now more probable. But is it more defensible?

    40:42 Interrogating the “elitist backlash” interpretation of Trumpism

    45:43 How should Dems proceed in a post-Biden election?Recorded July 4, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Full video of the Trump-Biden debate

    Harry G. Frankfurter’s book, On B******t

    Clip from Adam McKay’s film, Vice

    Kamala Harris attacks Biden during a 2019 primary debate

    Kamala Harris defends Biden’s recent debate performance

    NYT Editorial Board calls on Biden to leave the race

    Jill Biden’s Vogue cover



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  • 0:00 Intro

    1:28 Biden’s abysmal debate performance

    5:01 Billionaire survivalists

    12:53 So you made it to your luxury bunker. Now what?

    16:22 The postapocalyptic war of all against all

    21:29 Is the very existence of billionaires the real doomsday scenario?

    26:20 The doomsday tax

    32:24 Will the bunker dwellers have a reason to live?

    40:39 The problem of government after nuclear holocaust

    46:08 The literal bunker mentality

    52:08 Was Mark responsible for Sam Bankman-Fried’s downfall? Who can say for sure?

    Recorded June 28, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Evan Osnos’s 2017 New Yorker piece, “Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich”

    Douglas Rushkoff’s book, Survival of the Richest: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires

    Douglas Rushkoff’s Guardian piece, “The Super-Rich ‘Preppers’ Planning to Save Themselves from the Apocalypse”

    Ingrid Schmidt’s Hollywood Reporter piece, “Billionaires’ Survivalist Bunkers Go Absolutely Bonkers with Fiery Moats and Water Cannons”

    Andre Mayer’s CBC News piece, “From Luxury Bunkers to Tactical Vehicles, the Ultra-Rich Are Preparing for the Big One”

    Cixin Liu’s trilogy of sci-fi novels, The Three Body Problem

    Everybody Loves Raymond complete series DVD box set

    Louis van Gasteren’s documentary, Now Do You Get Why I Am Crying?

    Paul Celan’s Selected Poems and Prose, translated by John Felstiner

    Tadeusz Borowski’s book, This Way for the Gas, Ladies and Gentleman

    Glenn, Nikita, and Mark’s previous conversation, “The Ethics of Giving in the Very Long Term”



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  • 0:00 Great writing is “a marriage of life and honesty”

    3:20 Glenn: I am my book’s primary audience

    8:00 Glenn the Rationalist vs Glenn the Believer

    18:00 How much did Glenn’s socio-economic status affect his sense of black belonging?

    24:26 The radical rhetoric of privileged African Americans

    29:38 Against reparations

    33:57 A raised fist, but not a hand out

    40:27 Colorblindness in theory and practice

    50:11 Is race orthodoxy the first step on the road to totalitarianism?

    1:03:01 Self-reliance and individualism

    Recorded June 26, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Glenn’s memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative

    Jennifer and Winkfield’s book, Letters in Black and White: A New Correspondence on Race

    Stephen Shames and Ericka Huggins’s book, Comrade Sisters: Women of the Black Panther Party

    Jon Gray, Pierre Serrao, and Lester Walker’s cookbook, Ghetto Gastro Presents Black Power Kitchen

    Glenn’s essay, “Self-Censorship in Public Discourse: A Theory of ‘Political Correctness’ and Related Phenomena”

    Thomas Chatterton Williams’s book, Self-Portrait in Black and White: Unlearning Race

    Sheena Michele Mason’s forthcoming book, The Raceless Antiracist: Why Ending Race Is the Future of Antiracism

    Coleman Hughes’s book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America

    Winkfield and Jennifer’s conversation with Angel Eduardo

    Free Black Thought

    Václav Havel’s book, The Power of the Powerless

    Ralph Waldo Emerson’s essay, “Self-Reliance”



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  • 0:00 Why the different format?

    4:04 Joe asks John to account for his “emotional and irrational conclusions” about Trump and his recent conviction

    15:28 Ground News ad

    17:49 Did John really mean it when he implied he hoped someone would assassinate Trump?

    23:00 Lauren wants John to justify his “casual endorsement” of gender fluidity in pronoun usage

    32:37 Jerry asks why “external factors” like poverty are often used to explain lagging African American scholastic performance, those factors haven’t hindered them from achieving wildly disproportionate success in the cultural realm

    38:34 Patrick calls out Glenn for his frequent use of the word “irregardless”

    41:26 kgweiland asks Glenn if the Pamela Foster story in my memoir was “yours to share”

    46:17 Scott Alex has some technical questions about linguistics for John

    50:01 Jakon Joi asks for advice dealing with the tragic, possibly racially motivated murder of her father

    Recorded June 23, 2024

    Links and Readings

    June 2024 thread of subscriber questions

    John talking about Trump voters on Real Time in 2023

    Daniel Bessner and Glenn on Real Time in 2023

    Richard Dawkins interviews John

    John’s book, The Language Hoax: Why the World Looks the Same in Any Language



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  • 0:00 Glenn II returns to The Glenn Show

    2:17 Glenn II: Dad, you’re not really a “conservative” in the present-day sense of the term

    13:20 Glenn and Glenn II agree that the “systemic racism” argument is overblown but disagree over what to do about it

    22:04 What social conditions lead to the kind of behavior Glenn often condemns?

    31:36 The luck and privilege that allowed Glenn to recover from his mistakes

    39:19 Glenn II: “I found myself getting angry at someone who doesn’t exist anymore”

    46:59 The conversation Glenn never had with his father

    51:06 What Late Admissions taught Glenn II about his father

    57:32 Grace in the face of public scandal

    1:01:28 Love, death, and the Lourys

    Recorded June 15, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Glenn’s essay, “Self-Censorship in a Time of War”

    Scenes from The Wire, Season 4

    Glenn and Glenn II’s September 2018 Bloggingheads conversation

    Glenn II’s book, Invisible Funerals: A Tale of Nine Burials

    Glenn II’s book, Love Letters & Elegies: Tales from Beyond the Pale

    Glenn II’s book, What Death Can Touch



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