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  • The leaders at the top of the Republican Party want the U.S. to double down on carbon-intensive oil and gas — and avoid reckoning with the damage they cause.  As temperatures continue to rise, a majority of young Republican voters say clinging to that stance could spell trouble for the sustainability of the GOP.
    And yet, conservatives aren’t a monolith when it comes to climate. A small wing of the party is warming up to the idea of climate action. The question is: Can those Republicans, who take climate seriously, move the needle on bipartisan climate action? 
    Guests: 
    Emma Dumain, Reporter, E&E News
    Heather Reams, President, Citizens for Responsible Energy Solutions
    Mariannette Miller-Meeks, U.S. Representative (R-IA 1st District) and Chair of the Conservative Climate Caucus
    Danielle Butcher Franz, CEO, American Conservation Coalition
    📞 With the presidential election just a few months away, many of us are experiencing increased anxiety and uncertainty. If you're finding it challenging to manage your stress or are looking for support during this tense time, we want to hear from you. We’re inviting you to call in with your questions for our expert therapist, who will provide insights and practical advice on how to cope that may be shared in an upcoming episode.
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  • The nation’s electric grid needs to be expanded and made more reliable for our future energy demands and climate forecasts. The way we’ve built transmission in the past — regionally siloed with short term planning — is now suffering from reliability and capacity issues and won’t work for the next century.
    The Department of Energy is drafting plans for national transmission corridors to help speed new construction. It’s also handing out funds to build new lines and upgrade existing infrastructure to increase capacity.
    Meanwhile, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission recently passed a rule requiring utilities to work together and take a longer view on planning their transmission needs. But it will still take years to accomplish these changes.
    Can we build a robust national transmission system that serves our decarbonized future at the speed we need?
    Guests:
    Shelley Welton, Presidential Distinguished Professor of Law and Energy Policy, University of Pennsylvania Carey School of Law and the Kleinman Center for Energy Policy
    Maria Robinson, Director, Grid Deployment Office, Department of Energy 
    Danielle Fidler, Senior Attorney, Clean Energy Program, Earthjustice
    Pat Wood, CEO, Hunt Energy
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  • Last year was the hottest in recorded history, and this summer, much of the United States has already experienced record-shattering heat waves. That leaves millions of workers risking their health and possibly even their lives while on the job. And the danger is not limited to those who work outdoors. Warehouses, restaurants, and other indoor spaces are heating up. Most jobs lack heat protection from the federal or state government, but the same groups that brought us the 40-hour work week, child labor laws, and the weekend are now fighting for new worker protections.
    Unions across the country — from Texas UPS drivers to the Chicago Teachers Union — are negotiating to keep their workers protected from the effects of the climate crisis. Some are even going one step further and negotiating for their employers to cut the  carbon pollution that’s adding to global heating. How has the climate crisis spurred union action?
    Guests: 
    Terri Gerstein, Director, The Labor Initiative, Robert F. Wagner Graduate School of Public Service, New York University
    Stacy Davis Gates, President, Chicago Teachers Union
    Anita Seth, President, UNITE HERE Local 8
    Emily Minkus, Member, UNITE HERE Local 8
    🎟️ We've added yet another event to our stacked fall calendar. This program will feature Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson in conversation with Earthjustice President Abigail Dillen and Co-Host Greg Dalton. Tickets are on sale now.
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  • This week we take a trip to Mexico, a petrostate that just elected climate scientist Claudia Sheinbaum as its next president. She’s also the former mayor of Mexico City, the largest city in North America, which has been going through a major water crisis due to climate change. It’s at risk of running out of water — and it has been for a long time. In fact, much of the country is coping with drought and heat waves exacerbated by climate change.
    Christine Colvin, a hydrogeologist with WWF International, was in Cape Town, South Africa, at the height of a recent megadrought. The city was approaching Day Zero, when it would not be able to supply water to residents. Colvin says that of all the ways climate disruption impacts our lives, the most critical may be to our relationship with water. 
    "If the climate crisis is a shark, then water are its teeth. This is the thing that’s really going to bite us first and hardest." 

    Guests:
    Oscar Ocampo, Coordinator for Energy and Environment, Mexican Institute of Competitiveness
    Christine Colvin, Water Policy Lead, WWF International

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  • The Summer Olympic Games are here! That means more than 300 events, ten thousand athletes and millions of spectators coming to watch. And the athletes are not the only ones with an Olympian task; the organizers of the Paris Games pledged to make their event emit only half of the carbon pollution of the 2012 London Games. 
    In order to make that happen, they are trying to do more — by doing less. Instead of building huge new structures, they’ve renovated a number of existing venues and installed a lot of temporary structures that can be used elsewhere in the future. And that’s just one example. So what can we learn from the Paris Games that can transcend the big event and lead to broader emissions reductions?
    Guests: 
    Martin Müller, Professor of Geography and Sustainability, University of Lausanne
    Henry Grabar, Journalist, Author of “Paved Paradise, How Parking Explains the World”
    Oluseyi Smith, Two-time Olympian, Renewable Energy Engineer, Founder, Racing to Zero
    Angel Hsu, Director, Data-Driven EnviroLab, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
    ☎️ Do you work outdoors, in a kitchen or a warehouse or at another workplace where you are feeling the heat? Have rising temperatures impacted the way you do your job? We want to hear your story. 
    Leave us a voicemail at ‪(650) 382-3869‬ and let us know how climate change is affecting you on the job, and we may use it in an upcoming episode. Thanks for sharing!
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  • This November, voters may have the rare opportunity to choose based on the records of two administrations that have each already had one turn at the helm. Regardless of who ends up at the top of the Democratic ticket, when it comes to climate in particular, a lot is at stake. As Biden’s presidency winds down, the administration has been enacting numerous climate initiatives on top of his already robust climate wins, like new guidance on permitting and a new solar program. Meanwhile, former President Trump has promised to “drill, baby, drill” on day one, and roll back as much of Biden’s landmark climate legislation as possible. This week, we take a look back at how both administrations handled climate issues, the effects of those choices and what they promise to do if given another term in the White House. Guests:Nathaniel Stinnett, Founder and Executive Director, Environmental Voter ProjectEmma Shortis, Senior Researcher, International & Security Affairs Program, Australia Institute; Adjunct Senior Fellow, RMIT UniversityCoral Davenport, Energy and Environmental Policy Reporter, New York Times☎️ Do you work outdoors, in a kitchen or a warehouse or at another workplace where you are feeling the heat? Have rising temperatures impacted the way you do your job? We want to hear your story. Please leave us a voicemail at ‪(650) 382-3869‬ and let us know how climate change is affecting you on the job, and we may use it in an upcoming episode. Thanks for sharing!🎫 Tickets for upcoming live Climate One shows are on sale now.Support Climate One by going ad-free! By subscribing to Climate One on Patreon, you’ll receive exclusive access to all future episodes free of ads, opportunities to connect with fellow Climate One listeners and access to the Climate One Discord. Sign up today for just $5/month.For show notes and related links, visit our website.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  • There are climate heroes everywhere among us, but few get the public attention they deserve. Matt Scott, director of storytelling and engagement at Project Drawdown, has been shining a light on the work of such people in cities across the country in his documentary short series “Drawdown’s Neighborhood.”

    In Atlanta, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, the San Francisco Bay Area and more, Scott lifts up underrepresented voices of those working directly in their communities on climate issues. This week, we feature some of those voices.

    Guests:
    Matt Scott, Director of Storytelling & Engagement, Project Drawdown
    Grace Anderson, Founder, The Lupine Collaborative
    Ashia Ajani, Storyteller, Climate Justice Educator, Mycelium Youth Network

    📞 Do you work outside, in a kitchen, in a warehouse, or at other place where you’re feeling the heat? How have rising temperatures impacted the way you work? We want to hear your story. Leave us a voicemail at (650) 382-3869 and let us know how climate change is affecting you on the job, and we may use it in an upcoming episode. Thanks for sharing!

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  • One of the most common questions people ask about climate is: what can I do? Since time is one of our most valuable resources — and we spend so much of our time at work — changing jobs may be the most effective individual climate action a person can take. Those changes could be big or small: Leaving the oil and gas industry for geothermal, or helping to bring down the emissions where you already work.
    The truth is, almost any job can be a climate job. But how do people actually make the transition from dirty jobs to clean? What do climate positive job transitions really entail? 
    Guests:
    Caroline Dennett, Director, CLOUT Ltd
    Arvind Ravikumar, Co-Director, Energy Emissions Modeling and Data Lab, University of Texas, Austin
    Jennifer Anderson, Carbon Removal Geologist, Charm Industrial
    Emma McConville, Development Geoscience Lead at Fervo Energy
    Nathanael Johnson, Electrician
    📞 Do you work outside, or in a kitchen, a warehouse, or other place where you’re feeling the heat? How have rising temperatures impacted the way you work? We want to hear your story. 
    Please leave us a voicemail at ‪(650) 382-3869‬ and let us know how climate change is affecting you on the job. We may use it in an upcoming episode. Thanks for sharing!
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  • As countries around the world become more serious about reducing carbon emissions to meet international targets, many are still approving new oil and gas projects, committing us to increased global warming. Yet an increasing number of countries are taking a stand to leave those future emissions in the ground, even at the expense of their own profits. 
    Last year, Ecuadorians voted to halt the development of new oil wells in the Yasuní National Park in the Amazon, keeping around 726 million barrels of oil underground. Meanwhile, Costa Rica and Denmark have created the Beyond Oil and Gas Alliance to facilitate the managed phase-out of oil and gas production. And a group of at least 13 countries – including many island nations – but also notable oil and gas-rich countries like Colombia – are calling for a Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty as a complement to the Paris Agreement. Can more nations set aside valuable profits from fossil fuel resources in favor of our collective desire for a livable climate?
    This episode also features a story on Yasuní National Park produced by Mateo Schimpf and reported by Kimberley Brown.
    Guests:
    Tzeporah Berman, Chair, Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty
    Kevin Koenig, Climate, Energy, and Extractive Industry Director, Amazon Watch
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  • Adam Met is a behind-the-scenes climate policy powerhouse. He also happens to be the bass player in the award winning indie pop group AJR. During Met’s time away from touring the world and rocking the bass in front of thousands of fans, he and the team at Planet Reimagined, the thought and action tank Met founded, set out on a cross country listening tour in order to better understand how to create bipartisan climate policy.
    What they came up with is a plan to help renewable energy projects get built on land that has already been approved for fossil fuel projects, thus cutting down on the time and red tape required to get the projects up and running. Met also works with organizations like REVERB to help decarbonize the concert experience. 
    Guests: 
    Adam Met, Founder, Planet Reimagined, Bass Player, AJR
    Lara Seaver, Director of Projects, REVERB
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  • Acting like a responsible adult can be challenging at the best of times. Add dealing with climate chaos to the mix, and keeping it all together can feel like an outright miracle. 
    Let’s start by acknowledging that all does not feel fine in the world at the present moment. But living through extreme intensity isn’t a completely unique experience. Generations before us have endured existential crises of unimaginable magnitudes. 
    So how do we navigate this period of uncertainty — regardless of our age? And what tools can we use to build resilience in the midst of what feels like a lot?
    Guests: 
    Emily Raboteau, Author, “Lessons for Survival: Mothering Against ‘The Apocalypse’”
    Ana Alanis, Founder, Hungry for Climate Action
    Andrew Bryant, Co-Director, North Seattle Therapy & Counseling
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  • More than 7% of California has burned in the last five years. Clearly, past methods of wildfire prevention haven’t worked. Now, California is embracing a variety of new approaches to land management in an effort to beat back the flames. California Natural Resources Secretary Wade Crowfoot oversees the state's public lands, parks, wildlife and its firefighting agency, CalFire.
    As part of our slate of SF Climate Week events, Secretary Crowfoot spoke with KQED Science Reporter Danielle Venton about his work leading efforts to better adapt the state to the risk of wildfires. 
    Guests:
    Wade Crowfoot, California Secretary for Natural Resources
    Danielle Venton, Science reporter, KQED
    This conversation was recorded live on April 23, 2024 and supported in part by the Resources Legacy Fund.
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  • Summer means peak wildfire season. And recently, we’ve seen some of the most destructive wildfires in recorded history. For years the message around fire has been: no fire is good. 
    But increasingly, we’re starting to fight fire with fire. Prescribed burns may help prevent large, catastrophic wildfires. While using fire as a tool to manage the forest may be a relatively new concept to some, Indigenous communities have used fire to manage their environment for thousands of years. Is it time to rethink our relationship with wildfire? 
    Guests: 
    Susan Prichard, Fire Ecologist, University of Washington School of Environmental and Forest Sciences
    Ana Alanis, Founder, Hungry for Climate Action
    Nick Mott, Multimedia journalist 
    Frank Kanawha Lake, Research Ecologist and Tribal Liaison, USDA Forest Service
    This episode was supported by the Resources Legacy Fund.
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  • Globally, one-third of food produced every year is wasted. That’s enough to feed about 2 billion people — twice the number of people who are undernourished. The global food system also accounts for a whopping one-third of the world’s greenhouse gas emissions. These two problems — waste and emissions — are intricately linked: Climate disruption exacerbates food insecurity. And industrial food production contributes to the climate crisis. When food is wasted, it’s also a waste of land, water and energy.
    In this episode, we talk with experts about how to fix the broken system and hear from some of the people on the ground recovering food before it goes to waste. How can we address both climate and food insecurity at the same time?
    Guests:
    Dawn King, Senior Lecturer, Brown University
    Lisa Moon, CEO, The Global FoodBanking Network
    Norma Alonso, ABACO, Cooperation Manager 
    James Leyson, Managing Director for Global Impact and Operations, Scholars of Sustenance
    This episode also features a news story produced by Harvest Public Media contributor Peter Medlin, a reporter with WNIJ Northern Public Radio.
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  • Summer is coming soon, and for many that means vacation. While traveling far and wide can be an amazing experience, the carbon cost of traveling is significant. But what if we could rekindle a sense of awe in our own neighborhoods?
    After years of extreme expeditions all over the world, adventurer Alastair Humphreys spent a year exploring the detailed local map around his home. His new book “Local” is an ode to slowing down, as well as a rallying cry to protect the wild places on our doorstep.
    This episode also features field reporting from Producers Austin Colón and Megan Biscieglia.
    Guest: 
    Alastair Humphreys, Author, adventurer
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  • At age 9, Nalleli Cobo, suffering headaches, heart palpitations, nosebleeds, and body spasms, became an activist, driven to fighting to close the local oil well responsible for her ailments. In 2022, at age 20, she won the prestigious Goldman Environmental Prize for her work shutting down toxic wells throughout the Los Angeles region. The same year, California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a law prohibiting such neighborhood wells. Then Big Oil bankrolled a referendum on the matter for the November 2024 ballot, putting the restrictions Cobo fought so hard for on hold.
    Also in California, State Attorney General Rob Bonta has filed a lawsuit against five of the world’s largest oil and gas companies, along with the lobbying organization American Petroleum Institute, for willfully misleading the public about climate change. This week we explore two methods of challenging fossil fuels: in the courts and on the ballot.
    Guests:
    Nalleli Cobo, Cofounder, People Not Pozos
    Rob Bonta, California Attorney General
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  • An environmental giant passed last week with the death of Pete McCloskey, a former Republican Congressman who co-authored the Endangered Species Act. He died at the age of 94. 
    A Marine who served in the Korean War, McCloskey was perhaps best known for the politically fraught move of challenging a sitting president in his own party - Richard Nixon - in the 1972 presidential primary because of the Vietnam War. He was the first member of Congress — from either party — to call for President Nixon’s resignation during the Watergate scandal. 
    After he left public office in the 1980s, he continued to champion peace and environmental causes. About fifteen years ago, he became an early supporter of young people bringing climate cases into the courts. In 2011 he came on Climate One with other experts to discuss the first suits that young people filed alleging the US government has a responsibility to protect a healthy atmosphere for future generations. That effort laid the groundwork for the ongoing case Juliana vs. United States and another that was recently won in Montana.
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  • Plastics are everywhere. And while we’ve known for a long time that plastics and our environment aren’t a good mix, it's becoming apparent that they’re massive climate polluters too. The production of plastics alone produces about 4% of global greenhouse gas emissions. After what is often a single use, the resulting waste continues releasing the greenhouse gasses ethylene and methane as it breaks apart. 
    Yet, as petrochemical companies pay lip service ending fuel production, they are pouring resources into plastics production. How do we wrap up our reliance on plastics?
    Guests: 
    Diane Wilson, Founder and Director, San Antonio Bay Waterkeeper
    Jane Patton, U.S. Fossil Economy Campaign Manager, Center for International Environmental Law 
    Susannah Scott, Professor of Chemistry, University of California, Santa Barbara 
    Alexis Jackson, Ocean Policy and Plastics Lead, California Chapter, The Nature Conservancy 
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  • The Golden State has staked much of its reputation on its green credentials, with state leaders touting its role on the leading edge of global and national climate progress. But California is falling behind in meeting its ambitious emission targets, and has been criticized for over-relying on emerging clean energy technologies that may not bear out.
    At the same time, the state is at increasing risk from severe wildfires, epic floods and other impacts worsened by burning fossil fuels. What can the nation learn from California’s attempts to mitigate climate disruption?
    Guests:
    Scott Wiener, California State Senator
    Nancy Skinner, California State Senator
    Liane Randolph, Chair, California Air Resources Board
    Mari Rose Taruc, Energy Justice Director, California Environmental Justice Alliance
    Eleni Kounalakis, Lieutenant Governor, California
    Jennifer Barrera, President & CEO, California Chamber of Commerce
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  • Many businesses and governments have a goal of reaching net zero emissions. Sounds good. But what does “net zero” even mean? And how do we get there? Alicia Seiger is a lecturer at Stanford Law School and leads sustainability and energy finance initiatives at Stanford Law, Graduate School of Business, and the Doerr School for Sustainability. She argues that when it comes to greenhouse gas emissions, businesses need to get as good at accounting for their pollution as they are for their dollars.
    Guest:
    Alicia Seiger, Lecturer, Stanford Law School
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