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  • How do we think about faith and doubt in an everchanging world?

    Brent is joined by Jennifer Holberg to discuss Alfred Lord Tennyson and his massive poem ‘In Memorium’.

    Jennifer is professor and chair of the English Department at Calvin University in the States and co-director of the Calvin Center for Faith and Writing. She’s also the author of the book ‘Nourishing Narratives’.

    (1:35) Who was Tennyson?(4:30) Rossetti and Hopkins;(8:20) The poem and Arthur Hallam;(12:00) The Prologue;(19:00) Opening stanzas 1,5,6 and 7;(29:50) Stanza 27;(31:40) 28-31. The first Christmas;(35:00) The 50’s;(35:20) The lowest point of the poem?(46:20) Does the work resolve? A mystical experience – Stanza 95;(49: 15) Stanza 96;(53:20) 118-124;(59:00) God as love.

    Links mentioned in this episode:

    www.amazon.com.au/dp/1514005247?ref_=mr_referred_us_au_nz

    calvin.edu/people/jennifer-l-holberg

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  • ‘The history of the theology of worship is riddled with examples of clergy and worship leaders who have sought to manipulate their parishioners’ anxiety in order to spur repentance and turn people toward God. Even if such ends may be desirable – at what cost’?

    Brent talks with J. Michael Jordan about his new IVP book ‘Worship in an Age of Anxiety: How Churches Can Create Space for Healing’.

    Rev. Dr. J. Michael Jordan is an ordained Wesleyan pastor with eleven years of pastoral ministry experience in United Methodist, American Baptist and Wesleyan churches. He currently serves as associate professor of Bible and Theology at Houghton College.

    (1:00) An age of anxiety;(2:10) Do pastors exploit anxiety?(3:20) Young people and anxiety;(7:00) Preaching and anxiety. Charles Finney;(9:00) Moody;(11:30) The revival pattern and church worship;(13:40) A healing approach to worship;(15:30) Church space and anxiety;(17:10) Church music;(19:55) Preaching and anxiety;(23:40) Baptism, communion and anxiety.

    Links mentioned in this episode:

    www.amazon.com.au/dp/1514006103?ref_=mr_referred_us_au_nz

    /ivpress.com

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  • What can trigger grief? Does your grief feel too much to bear?

    Brent talks with Steve Carter about his new book from Thomas Nelson ‘Grieve, Breathe, Receive: Finding a Faith Strong Enough to Hold Us’.

    Steve is a pastor, speaker, author, podcast host, and the former lead teaching pastor of Willow Creek Community Church in Chicago. He hosts the Craft and Character Podcast, where he helps people get better at the art and craft of communication while ensuring their character always leads the way. An avid sports fan, Steve has co-hosted with ESPN sports anchor Samantha Ponder, NFL Player Sam Acho and Trey Burton The Home Team Podcast, which unpacks the intersection between faith, culture, sports and family.

    (1:35) Personal expressions of grief;(4:00) Holy Weekend;(8:30) Steve’s story;(11:45) Abuse at Willow Creek;(22:00) Receiving new mercies;(23:30) Faith and sport;(24:00) Steve’s podcasts.

    Links mentioned in this episode:

    .stevecarter.org/book

    /www.amazon.com.au/dp/0785235612?ref_=mr_referred_us_au_nz

    /www.thomasnelson.com

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  • Instead of resigning ourselves to a life of isolation and judgement, should we embrace the notion that we can stand proudly in our uniqueness, fully blooming into the remarkable beings that we were always meant to be?

    Brent talks with Cally Logan the author of a new Bridge-Logos Publishers book called ‘The Wallflower that Bloomed: Finding Your Place at the Lunch Table of Life’.

    Cally is an author and senior writer for Crosswalk. She’s been featured on shows like the ‘700 Club Initiative’ and her writing has appeared in numerous outlets including Christine Caine’s ‘Propel Women’. Cally served as a mentor to young women for several years, and enjoys challenging ladies to develop deeper relationshps with God and to live fearlessly and authentically.

    (1:20) A wallflower;(2:00) School lunch;(3.30) How can we bloom?(5:00) ‘Masks’;(6:35) Authenticity;(7:25) What to do about soul wounds;(9:15) Dealing with fear;(10:25) Ricky Nelson;(13:10) Are we our own bullies?(15:00) Struggles with depression and suicidal thoughts;(17:10) Social media;(20:25) Brain types;(24:10) Betrayal.

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    callylogan.com

    www.amazon.com.au/dp/1610369955?ref_=mr_referred_us_au_nz

    /www.bridgelogos.com

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  • ‘Everyone who met Dallas Willard was impressed by his personal attention, calm confidence, wisdom, and profound sense of the spiritual. But he was not always the man who seemed to live on a different plane of reality than the rest of us’.

    Brent talks with Gary Moon about the new paperback edition of his IVP biography ‘Becoming Dallas Willard: The Formation of a Philosopher, Teacher, and Christ Follower’.

    Gary is director of the Martin Family Institute and Dallas Willard Center for Christian Spiritual Formation at Westmont College in Santa Barbara, California. He is also co-director of Fuller’s doctor of ministry degree program in spiritual direction wich blends ancient Christian spirituality, Ignation spirituality and spiritual formation insights from Dallas Willard.

    (1:10) Who was Dallas Willard?(3:00) The early years;(5:00) Conversion;(6:00) Plato’s Republic;(7:15) Encountering God in a laundry!(8:40) Deep experiences of God;(12:40) Preaching;(15:30) ‘Swimming against the stream’;(22:30) ‘The Disappearance of Moral Knowledge’.

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    www.amazon.com.au/Becoming-Dallas-Willard-Formation-Philosopher/dp/1514011131/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&q

    /www.westmont.edu/about/institutes-and-centers/martin-institute/dallas-willard-research-center

    www.ivpress.com/lifeguide-bible-studies

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  • ‘We often see setbacks and disasters as events that keep us from our best life. But they’re really opportunities to grow in leadership’.

    Brent talks with Gayle Beebe about his new IVP book ‘The Crucibles that Shape Us: Navigating the Defining Challenges of Leadership’.

    Gayle has been president of Westmont College in Santa Barbara, California since 2007; previously he was president of Spring Arbor University in Michigan. He’s spent more than 3 decades in higher education and has written or edited 10 books and more than 40 articles.

    (1:05) Disasters and what they teach us;(6:20) Trials;(7:20) What is a crucible?(8:50) Challenges;(10:50) Sir Winston Churchill;(15:05) Human betrayal;(20:30) The crucible of human suffering;(23:30) Gayle’s greatest challenges.

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  • Brent talks with Patricia Weerakoon about her ‘Growing Faith’ book ‘The Best Sex for Life’.

    Patricia is a counsellor, sexologist and academic. She trained in medicine at the University of Sri Lanka and did her postgraduate study in sexology at the University of Hawaii. She taught at Sydney University where she was the director of an internationally recognised postgraduate programme in sexual health. She’s also a popular conference speaker and the author of several books.

    (1:00) What is the best sex for life?(3:30) Contemporary views of sex;(5:15) God’s plan;(7:00) Marriage;(9:30) Engagement;(16:00) The wedding night;(21:00) Pornography;(22:40) Sex and age.

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    www.amazon.com.au/dp/B01KP9RCC4?ref_=mr_referred_us_au_nz

    patriciaweerakoon.com

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  • In the second part of our podcast about the movie ‘The Train’ Brent talks with Michelle Young about the art curator featured in the movie – Rose Valland.

    Michelle is the author of a forthcoming book from Harper One, an imprint of Harper Collins, about the World War 2 Resistance spy. The book will be issued in May 2025 and will be called ‘The Art Spy’.

    Michelle is the founder of ‘Untapped New York’ and the author of a number of books about the city. She’s professor of architecture at Columbia University GSAPP and an instructor at CUNY School of Journalism.

    (1:05) How Michelle got interested in Rose Valland and World War 2;(2:00) Why is Rose still so little known;(4:15) How accurate is the movie ‘The Train’?(6:15) Why did the Nazi’s want all those art treasures?(8:15) Why ‘degenerate’ art?(9:25) How did the Nazi’s use art?(10:10) The ERR;(11:55) The Jeu de Paume – Goring’s private gallery?(12:30) Why Rose decided to save art;(13:25) How did Rose spy on the Germans?(14:40) How many works did Rose document?(15:40) Rose’s interrogation by the Germans;(16:55) Rose suspected by French partisans;(18:15) The German plans for Rose;(18:55) The last art train to Germany. How did Rose and the resistance stop the train from leaving Paris?(20:50) Rose – a monuments woman?(22:00) The Nuremberg Trials;(22:20) Rose’s awards and decorations;(24:30) Rose’s view of ‘The Train’ adaptation.

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    michelleyoungwriter.com

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  • Is it ever justified to sacrifice a human life to save a work of art?

    Brent is joined by Hannah Long to discuss the 1964 movie ‘The Train’ starring Burt Lancaster and Paul Scofield.

    The first part of a two part feature – the second part will drop in a couple of days! In the second part, Brent interviews author Michelle Young about Rose Valland, the World War 2 Resistance spy whose book became the basis for ‘The Train’.

    Hannah is a passionate cinephile. She writes cultural commentary and film criticism for a number of publications including ‘The Dispatch’, ‘Angelus News’, ‘American Consequences’ and ‘The Bulwark’.

    (1:00) ‘The Train’ and John Frankenheimer;(2:45) The story;(5:40) The historical background – Rose Valland;(9:25) Colonel von Waldheim;(16:00) The Colonel’s motivation;(17:35) High art and evil in the movie;(19:25) ‘Degenerate’ art in the Third Reich;(21:10) The use of art and culture in the Third Reich;(25:00) The Colonel and evil;(25:40) Can it be immoral to reject beauty?(28:10) Sacred objects?(30:10) Scripture and beauty;(32:50) Labiche;(34:30) Labiche’s view of art;(36:00) Movement;(37:45) Burt Lancaster;(39:20) Is it ever right to sacrifice a life for the sake of a work of art?(41:45) The Resistance and Madame Villard;(43:50) Labiche’s motivation and why he breaks his rules;(50:20) Mephisto-like imagery;(52:15) The end of the movie;(56:40) Frankenheimer’s view of art and the final shot.

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    x.com/HannahGraceLong

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  • What does God’s Word say about money?

    Brent talks with Callie and Rosario Picardo about their new book from Invite Press called ‘Healthy Money: A 30-Day Journey Toward Spiritual, Emotional, and Financial Freedom’.

    Callie has spent her career working in finance and charitable giving. She currently serves as Vice President for Development at United Theological Seminary in Dayton, Ohio. In 2011 she built Deep Roots Financial Coaching, a business that helps individuals, families and churches align their finances with God’s Word.

    Rosario is one of the founding pastors at Mosaic, a multicultural church in Dayton, Ohio. Rosario is a national speaker and leads a consulting grup for church planters/pastors, called Picardo Coaching LLC and he’s the author of 8 books.

    (1:15) Why a 30 day journey?(1:40) How can we tell our money mindset?(3:05) Early money memories;(6:25) What is a security mindset?(7:10) A collector’s mindset;(8:30) The Bible’s view of money;(10:30) Idolatry of money;(11:25) How to ‘count your blessings’;(12:45) Can we know what God wants us to do with our money?(14:20) Setting goals for our money;(15:45) Prosperity gospel;(18:00) Why its important to know what we value most;(21:10) Financial rest?

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    www.rosariopicardo.com

    www.inviteresources.com/invite-press-books

    www.amazon.com/Healthy-Money-Spiritual-Emotional-Financial-ebook/dp/B0CW1HR5NF

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  • Where did the universe come from and is it conscious? Does the universe have a purpose?

    Brent is joined by philosophers Philip Goff and Joshua Farris to discuss Philip‘s latest book from Oxford University Press called ‘Why? The Purpose of the Universe’.

    Philip is a philosophy professor at Durham University in the UK. He spends most of his time ‘trying to work out the ultimate nature of reality’. His special interest is panpsychism and whether it can offer a middle way between traditional belief in God and secular atheism.

    Joshua is a philosopher and theologian. He’s Vice President of Ethical Engagement at Density6 and Visiting Research Professor at the Ruhr University Bochum.

    (1:20) Does the universe have a purpose?(3:20) Why and how does science point to a purpose for the universe?(6:00) Why does consciousness point to purpose?(10:10) What is panpsychism and is the universe conscious?(12:20) How did the universe come to be conscious if it is?(14:00) How do we know the universe is conscious?(21:10) God and the existence of evil and suffering;(23:10) Why does God allow suffering?(26:45) Philip’s view of a more limited God;(28:30) The myth made fact?

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    philipgoffphilosophy.com

    www.joshuarfarris.com

    www.amazon.com.au/dp/0198883765?ref_=mr_referred_us_au_nz

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  • ‘Jonathan Edwards, John Wesley, and George Whitefield were the three most prominent early evangelicals – and all three were deeply compromised on the issue of slavery. Edwards and Whitefield kept slaves themselves, and Wesley failed to speak out against slavery until near the end of his life’.

    Brent talks with Sean McGever the author of a new IVP book called ‘Ownership: The Evangelical Legacy of Slavery in Edwards, Wesley and Whitefield’. Sean tells the true story of these men’s relationships to slavery: a story that has often been passed over or buried in scholarly literature.

    Sean is an area director of Young Life in Phoenix, Arizona, and adjunct faculty at Grand Canyon University. He’s the author of several books.

    (1:20) Sean’s involvement with the book project;(4:25) The foundation of American evangelicalism;(9:25) Wesley and slavery;(12:15) Whitefield;(15:15) Edwards and slavery;(21:10) How does the Bible deal with slavery?(27:00) English Christians and slavery in the 18th century;(29:45) The Homilies;(32:45) Wesley’s first encounter with slavery;(35:15) Whitefield enslaving people;(37:30) Edwards’ writings on slavery;(40:45) Wesley’s abolitionism;(43:30) How do we own white evangelical Christian history?

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    seanmcgever.com

    /www.ivpress.com

    www.amazon.com/Ownership-Evangelical-Slavery-Edwards-Whitefield-ebook/dp/B0CQV8G9V6

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  • What’s the symbolism of the lampstand in Zechariah 4 and how does it compare with the lampstand in the Tabernacle and the lampstands in the Temple?

    Brent talks with Dr. Alastair Roberts of the Theopolis Institute in the States about the weird 4th chapter of Zechariah!

    (0:33) The 5th night vision;(3:15) The lampstand;(6:50) Jubilee;(9:20) Zerubbabel;(10:15) The two olive trees;(12:20) The mountain in v 7;(14:00) The topstone in v 7:(15:35) The lampstand in v 11 and onward;(16:20) The 7 eyes;(18:15) The oil;(19:50) The branches.

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    theopolisinstitute.com

    alastairadversaria.com

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  • Brent is joined by Dr. Alastair Roberts of the Theopolis Institute in the States to discuss the very problematic opening ceremony of the Olympic Games in Paris.

    Who was the Greek god Dionysius and how is Dionysian symbolism used throughout Western culture?

    (0:45) What is all the fuss about?(1:55) The title and the ‘Feast of the gods’;(3:45) Recent media depictions of the ‘Last Supper’;(7:10) Who was Dionysius?(8:15) Dionysian religion;(9:00) The Dionysian and Nietszche;(10:55) Turning everything upside down;(14:00) The Dionysian and violence;(15:45) Thomas Mann;(17:00) Politics and the Dionysian;(18:50) Apollo and Dionysius;(19:30) Jesus as the true Dionysius;(22:45) A Christian response to blasphemy;(31:00) The song and Nature. Rousseau;(35:20) The French Revolution.

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    alastairadversaria.com

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  • Who is the ‘angel of the Lord’ in Zechariah 3?

    Brent talks with Dr. Alastair Roberts of the Theopolis Institute in the States about Zechariah 3.

    (0:35) The ‘night visions’ of Zechariah;(2:35) The High Priest;(3:35) The defiled garments;(6:30) What does Zechariah see?(7:50) The golden plate;(9:30) The garments of the High Priest and the Tabernacle and Temple;(10:35) A new Day of Atonement?(14:15) Who is the angel of the Lord?(16:40) The branch;(17:05) The stone with 7 eyes;(18:00) The stone and the Law;(20:30) The Sabbath like rest of v 10;(23:00) How the chapter points to Jesus.

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    theopolisinstitute.com

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  • Brent is joined once again by Jennifer Holberg to talk about the 20th century poet Jane Kenyon.

    Jennifer is professor and chair of the English Department at Calvin University in the States and co-director of the Calvin Center for Faith and Writing. She’s also the author of the book ‘Nourishing Narratives’.

    (1:00) Jane Kenyon;(2:30) The Luminous Particular;(3:50) ‘The Thimble’ and ‘Finding a Long Grey Hair’;(8:10) ‘What Came to Me’;(10:15) ‘Coats’;(11:55) How did Kenyon struggle with and celebrate the hard things of life?(12:25) ‘Dutch Interiors’;(14:30) ‘Otherwise’;(17:15) ‘Having it Out with Melancholy’;(30:20) ‘The Shirt’;(31:05) ‘Let Evening Come’.

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    /www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jane-kenyon

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  • ‘On February 8, 2023, the Holy Spirit sparked a flame at the end of an Asbury University Chapel Service. Over the next 16 days, what began as a local experience within the confines of Asbury’s campus soon flared into the blaze of a global movement that captivated millions through the viral power of social media’.

    Brent talks with Dr. Sarah Thomas Baldwin about her new book from Invite Press called ‘Generation Awakened: An Eyewitness Account of the Powerful Outpouring of God at Asbury’.

    Sarah is Vice President of Student Life at Asbury University in central Kentucky. Sarah has served in Christian higher education for almost 30 years as a student affairs, professional, university pastor and vice president. Sarah serves as co-pastor of a ‘small church’ in Wilmore, Kentucky. She’s a frequent speaker, preacher and retreat leader.

    (1:30) What actually happened at Asbury;(3:40) The university and town background;(8:25) The experience of God;(10:50) How the revival affected Sarah’s working life;(12:30) How Sarah and her team ‘stewarded’ the revival;(15:15) The student response;(17:10) Social media and the revival;(19:30) Dealing with the media;(24:40) Other revivals;(25:55) How the revival has changed things.

    Links mentioned in this episode:

    www.inviteresources.com/invite-press-books

    www.amazon.com.au/dp/1963265041?ref_=mr_referred_us_au_nz

    www.asbury.edu

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  • Who was Teresa of Avila? What wisdom or insight can a Spanish mystic from the 1500’s possibly offer today’s Christian?

    Brent talks with Laurel Mathewson about her new Whitaker House book called ‘An Intimate Good: A Skeptical Christian Mystic in Conversation with Teresa of Avila’.

    Laurel is an Anglican priest. She’s worked in academia, in media and in ministry. Laurel is the editor of ‘The Interior Castle: Exploring a Spiritual Classic as a Modern Reader’ and she’s written award winning work for ‘Sojourners’ Magazine, Geez Magazine and ‘The Christian Century’.

    (1:05) Laurel’s background;(3:30) Teresa;(5:50) Opposition;(6:30) Knowing God better and ‘The Interior Castle’;(8:30) Teresa’s experiences of God;(10:00) Gifts from God;(11:00) The dwellings;(15:30) Laurel’s own experiences of God;(19:40) God is our lover;(22:10) The fire or love of God;(24:00) Visions;(25:30) The dark night of the soul.

    Links mentioned in this episode:

    laurelmathewson.com

    www.amazon.com/Intimate-Good-Skeptical-Christian-Conversation/dp/B0C8C9DR57

    www.whitakerhouse.com

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  • Digital technology has become a ubiquitous feature of modern life. But how do we think about computer technology and how do we live as faithful Christians in a digitially saturated society? What is a ‘hallucinating’ chatbot?

    Brent talks with Derek Schuurman about his IVP book ‘Shaping a Digital World: Faith, Culture and Computer Technology.

    Derek is professor of computer science at Calvin University in Grand Rapids, Michigan in the States. He previously taught at Dordt University and Redeemer University and has worked as an engineer in designing embedded systems. Derek has also done research in areas of robotics and computer vision as well as faith and technology.

    (1:30) Christianity in our fast paced world;(2:25) Is technology neutral?(4:00) Values in computers?(5:10) Virtual reality and AI;(7:35) ‘Hallucinating’ chatbots?(10:00) The Fall and technology;(11:20) Does computer technology need redemption?(12:30) A Christian approach to computer technology;(14:50) Moral issues;(18:10) Optimism?(19:35) Technology in the new creation;(21:00) Robots with emotions?

    Links mentioned in this episode:

    /calvin.edu/directory/people/derek-schuurman

    www.amazon.com/Shaping-Digital-World-Computer-Technology/dp/0830827137

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  • How do we ‘do’ discipleship?

    ‘Many Christians don’t disciple others because they think it’s the church leaders’ responsibility. But Jesus commanded all his disciples to go and make disciples’.

    (1:00) The Great Commission;(4:00) Yolanda’s discipleship journey;(8:50) Jesus and discipleship;(15:10) The discipleship problem in the States;(22:35) Small group discipleship and one-on-one discipleship.

    Links mentioned in this episode:

    yolandasolomon.site

    www.amazon.com/Discipleship-Holy-Collaboration-Helping-Others/dp/1514006197

    www.ivpress.com

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