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  • Welcome to AAPF's Election 2024 Round Table, Part 3!

    There is a lot of noise to cut through right now when it comes to the important issues at stake in the election. To bring nuance to the mainstream media narratives, between now and election day, the African American Policy Forum presents a series of election round table conversations featuring three thinkers who are deeply enmeshed in academia, media, and community activism unpacking what’s at stake on Nov 5th: Kirsten West Savali, Kaye Wise Whitehead, and Tim Wise.

    The trio will tackle the issues that are likely to make a difference as we come down to the wire: threats to democracy, racial and reproductive justice, policing, Project 2025, and more.

    Featuring:
    Kirsten West Savali, VP of Content at Urban One’s iOne Digital, and former Executive Producer of News & Politics Editor for Essence magazine (@KWestSavali)
    Kaye Wise Whitehead, host of Today with Dr. Kaye on WEAA and founding executive director of The Karson Institute for Race, Peace & Social Justice at Loyola University (@blackmommyactivist)
    Tim Wise, anti-racist writer, lecturer and African American Policy Forum Senior Fellow (@timjacobwise)

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    Read AAPF and HIT Strategies' Race-Forward Messaging Report here.

  • Welcome to AAPF's Election Round Table Series, Part 2!

    There is a lot of noise to cut through right now when it comes to the important issues at stake in the election. To bring nuance to the mainstream media narratives, between now and election day, the African American Policy Forum presents a series of election round table conversations featuring three thinkers who are deeply enmeshed in academia, media, and community activism unpacking what’s at stake on Nov 5th: Kirsten West Savali, Kaye Wise Whitehead, and Tim Wise.
    The trio will tackle the issues that are likely to make a difference as we come down to the wire: threats to democracy, racial and reproductive justice, policing, Project 2025, and more.

    Featuring:
    Kirsten West Savali, VP of Content at Urban One’s iOne Digital, and former Executive Producer of News & Politics Editor for Essence magazine (@KWestSavali)
    Kaye Wise Whitehead, host of Today with Dr. Kaye on WEAA and founding executive director of The Karson Institute for Race, Peace & Social Justice at Loyola University (@blackmommyactivist)
    Tim Wise, anti-racist writer, lecturer and African American Policy Forum Senior Fellow

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    Read AAPF and HIT Strategies' Race-Forward Messaging Report here.

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  • There is a lot of noise to cut through right now when it comes to the important issues at stake in the election. To bring nuance to the mainstream media narratives, between now and election day, the African American Policy Forum presents a series of election round table conversations featuring three thinkers who are deeply enmeshed in academia, media, and community activism unpacking what’s at stake on Nov 5th: Kirsten West Savali, Kaye Wise Whitehead, and Tim Wise.

    The trio will tackle the issues that are likely to make a difference as we come down to the wire: threats to democracy, racial and reproductive justice, policing, Project 2025, and more.

    Featuring:
    Kirsten West Savali, VP of Content at Urban One’s iOne Digital, and former Executive Producer of News & Politics Editor for Essence magazine (@KWestSavali)
    Kaye Wise Whitehead, host of Today with Dr. Kaye on WEAA and founding executive director of The Karson Institute for Race, Peace & Social Justice at Loyola University (@blackmommyactivist)
    Tim Wise, anti-racist writer, lecturer and African American Policy Forum Senior Fellow (@timjacobwise)

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    Read AAPF and HIT Strategies' Race-Forward Messaging Report here.

  • Attorney Ben Crump joins host Kimberlé Crenshaw and members of the #SayHerName Mothers Network to spotlight the ongoing fight for justice for the killing of Sonya Massey by police. Warning: this episode contains graphic descriptions of violence.

    Listen to conversations with Attorney Crump and other CRT Summer School 2024 participants for a limited time here: https://linktr.ee/intersectionalitymatters

    Hosted by: Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks)

    Featured Guests: Attorney Ben Crump (@attorneycrump)

    Senior Producer: Nicole Edwards
    Associate Producer: Sana Hashmi
    Mixing by Sean Dunnam 
    Episode art by Ashley Julien
    Music by Blue Dot Sessions
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  • It’s Freedom Summer 2024! We’re celebrating the 60th anniversary of Freedom Summer 1964, and kicking off our annual Critical Race Theory Summer School in the locus for the recent attacks on racial justice and democracy: Nashville, Tennessee.
    Host, Kimberlé Crenshaw is joined by CRT Summer School contributors, Tennessee Representative Justin Jones; Superintendent for CRT summer school and celebrated educator, radio host, and film producer—Kaye Wise Whitehead; and Tim Wise, a groundbreaking anti-racist thinker, author and educator who is also a senior fellow with the AAPF. They discuss Project 2025, the attacks on our democracy, and why Tennessee is the tip of the spear in the fight to keep democracy alive.

    Join us in person and online for CRT Summer School 2024: Register now for CRT Summer School 

    Hosted by: Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks)

    Featured Guests:
    Rep. Justin Jones (@brotherjones_) 
    Kaye Wise Whitehead (@kayewhitehead)
    Tim Wise (@timjacobwise)

    Senior Producer Nicole Edwards
    Associate Producer Madison Belo
    Mixing by Sean Dunnam 
    Episode art by Ashley Julien
    Music by Blue Dot Sessions

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  • Join host Kimberlé Crenshaw behind the scenes at the African American Policy Forum in this series of brief, intimate conversations on intersectionality and how we can use it to interpret and navigate our multiracial democracy.
    This episode features anti-racist author, educator, and lecturer Tim Wise (@timjacobwise)
    Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks)
    Produced by Sr. Producer Nicole Edwards
    Mixing by Sean Dunnam
    Episode art by Ashley Julien
    Music by Blue Dot Sessions
    Follow us on Instagram and Twitter, or via aapf.org

  • Join host Kimberlé Crenshaw behind the scenes at the African American Policy Forum in this series of brief, intimate conversations on intersectionality and how we can use it to interpret and navigate our multiracial democracy.
    This episode features comedian and Emmy-nominated director CJ Hunt (http://gocjhunt.com/).
    Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks)
    Produced by Sr. Producer Nicole Edwards
    Mixing by Sean Dunnam
    Episode art by Ashley Julien
    Music by Blue Dot Sessions
    Follow us on Instagram and (Twitter), or via aapf.org

  • Guest Dawn Porter, director of Luther: Never Too Much, joins host Kimberlé Crenshaw to discuss a new Luther Vandross biopic. They explore Luther's unmatched artistry, the intersections of the pop star's lived experience that stopped him from receiving the accolades he rightfully deserved, and his legacy as the soundtrack to so many lives.

    Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks)
    Guest Dawn Porter (@dawnporter)
    Produced by Sr. Producer Nicole Edwards
    Mixing by Sean Dunnam
    Support provided by Sana Hashmi, Jocelyn Walker, and the team at the African American Policy Forum
    Episode art by Ashley Julien
    Music by Blue Dot Sessions
    Follow us at @intersectionalitymatters (Twitter), @IMKC_podcast (Instagram), and aapf.org

  • Guest host Shermena M. Nelson is joined by Huru founder Imani Joye Samuels to discuss the life-saving importance of rest for Black women. They also unpack strategies for creating a sustainable, effective self care practice.

    Shermena, Imani, and other wellness practitioners will host an evening dedicated to Black women's self care calledYou Carry the Dream: Reclaiming Rest and Resilience on March 28th during this year's Her Dream Deferred week. Join in person in NYC, or host a watch party and livestream the event from your area. Find out more here.
    Featuring Shermena M Nelson
    Imani Joye Samuels
    Executive produced by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks)
    Produced by Sr Producer Nicole Edwards
    Mixing by Sean Dunnam
    Associate Production by Sana Hashmi
    Art by Ashley Julien
    Support provided by Jocelyn Walker, Kristin Penner and the team at African American Policy Forum
    Music by Blue Dot Sessions
    Follow us at @intersectionalitymatters (Twitter), @IMKC_podcast (Instagram)

  • Join Kimberlé Crenshaw and the African American Policy Forum at Sundance Film Festival on January 19th, 2024 at 8 pm MT for The Story of Us (Part 4), live at The Park in Park City, Utah. Register for your free pass here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-story-of-us-surviving-the-war-on-woke-black-storytelling-tickets-793686827667


    In this episode, host Kimberlé Crenshaw and African American Policy Forum present the Story of Us (Part 3) panel, recorded live from the Sundance Film Festival in 2023.
    As we think about the future of democracy, this instalment of Sundance's "Big Conversation" series builds on the previous two iterations of Kimberlé W. Crenshaw’s The Story of Us, and explores how cinematic storytelling has long been, and continues to be, critical to shaping the contours of democratic inclusion. Who gets to be a hero or a villain in popular depictions of American life? Who gets written out of the story altogether? And how do Hollywood portrayals influence the amount political power that various demographics of Americans hold in real life?

    Featuring W Kamau Bell, the 2023 Sundance Vanguard Award winner, comic, and television host
    Holly Cook Macarro, Tribal Advocate & Political Strategist
    Jason Stanley, author and Jacob Urowsky Professor of Philosophy at Yale University
    Roger Ross Williams, Academy Award-winning Director, Writer, and Producer

    Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks)
    Produced by Sr Producer Nicole Edwards
    Mixing by Sean Dunnam
    Support provided by the African American Policy Forum
    Music by Blue Dot Sessions
    Follow us at @intersectionalitymatters (X), @IMKC_podcast (Instagram)

  • This episode highlights a new milestone for the #SayHerName campaign: a new book, entitled #SayHerName: Black Women’s Stories of Police Violence and Public Silence. 
    Co-authored by podcast host Kimberlé Crenshaw and the team at the African American Policy Forum, this book helps readers better understand Black women's susceptibility to police brutality and state-sanctioned violence. It explains —through Black feminist storytelling and ritual — how we can effectively mobilize various communities and empower them to advocate for racial justice for Black women, girls, and femmes.
    In this podcast episode, you'll hear incredible performances from actors at each of our #SayHerName book tour stops in Philadelphia, Washington D.C., and Baltimore. You'll also hear from members from the #SayHerName Mothers Network, a sisterhood of women who have lost other women, girls and femmes in their family to police violence.
    You'll also hear from Dr. Kaye Wise Whitehead, Dr. Dorothy Roberts, and Kali Holloway, each of whom served as cohosts at book tour stops in their respective cities. They reflected with Dr. Crenshaw on the power of the tour, the calls to action from the book, and the urgency of the lessons the book contains.
    Centering Black women’s experiences in police and gender violence discourses sends the powerful message that, in fact, all #BlackLivesMatter, and that the police cannot kill without consequence. Supporting AAPF ensures that this important research and testimony continues to inspire change.
    To purchase your copy, click here. To learn more about the #SayHerName campaign and to register for the 9th annual ceremony of ritual and remembrance happening live in NYC on Dec 14th, go to https://www.aapf.org/sayhername
    Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks), with Dorothy Roberts @DorothyERoberts, Kaye Wise Whitehead @kayewhitehead, and Kali Holloway @kalihollowayftw.
    Produced by Nicole Edwards and the team at the African American Policy Forum.
    Mixing by Sean Dunnam
    Music by Blue Dot Sessions
    Follow us at @intersectionalitymatters, @IMKC_podcast

  • To kick off Banned Book Week, host Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks) is joined by award-winning author George Johnson (@IamGMJohnson). They talk about the book bans that are sweeping the US, and George's new reality as one of the most banned Black authors in America. They also discuss the triumph of George's memoir, All Boys Aren't Blue, and unpack why George's work is needed now more than ever.
    Join AAPF for the second year of the Books Unbanned Tour, kicking off at the Brooklyn Book Festival on Oct 1st. Register for the panel discussion and free afterparty here: http://bit.ly/BKBF23
    Learn more about how you can help preserve our freedom to learn here: www.freedomtolearn.net
    Produced by Nicole Edwards and the team at the African American Policy Forum.
    Mixing by Sean Dunnam
    Music by Blue Dot Sessions
    Follow us at @intersectionalitymatters, @IMKC_podcast

  • In this episode, host Kimberlé Crenshaw is joined by Cheryl Harris, Robin D.G. Kelley, and Janai Nelson. They explain what has been happening with the College Board’s proposed AP African American Studies course, share a close reading of what the revisions are and what they mean, and discuss what we can all do about it. Kimberlé also shares exciting news about the launch of the Freedom to Learn Network, including information on the national day of action happening on May 3rd, 2023. With: Cheryl Harris, the Rosalinde and Arthur Gilbert Foundation Chair in Civil Rights and Civil Liberties at UCLA School of Law Robin D.G. Kelly, the Gary B. Nash Professor of American History at UCLA Janai Nelson, President and Director-Counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund (LDF) Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks) Produced by Nicole Edwards, with support from Kristin Penner, Kevin Minofu, Marjorie Bostwick, and Heather Malveaux. Mixing by Sean Dunnam. Music by Blue Dot Sessions Follow us at @intersectionalitymatters, @IMKC_podcast Resources Go to www.freedomtolearn.net for more information on the campaign, including resources like social media toolkits, and to access Freedom to Learn TV. Register here for the Freedom to Learn Rallies and NYC Reception: https://bit.ly/F2LNYCRally https://bit.ly/F2LDCRally https://bit.ly/F2LNYCReception Find out what people are doing in your area on the Freedom to Learn National Day of Action on May 3rd: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mlNoKD0xvfy372T6tNcm1qDWMdb3GBrTn9hhhAp05pU/edit?usp=sharing Sign the Open Letter on Fighting “Anti-Woke” Censorship of Intersectionality and Black Feminism: bit.ly/NoErasure

  • **TRIGGER WARNING -- THIS EPISODE CONTAINS DESCRIPTIONS OF VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN AND SOUNDS OF GUNFIRE. PLEASE TAKE CARE WHILE LISTENING.** In this episode, the sisters of Atatiana Jefferson, Amber and Ashley Carr, share a portrait of Atatiana’s life. Atatiana was killed by former police officer Aaron Dean in 2019. He is currently on trial. Host Kimberlé Crenshaw reflects on the Mothers Network and the 8th anniversary of the #SayHerName campaign, which supports Amber, Ashley, and other mothers, sisters, aunts, and loved ones of Black women killed by police. She also reflects on the importance of using an intersectional race and gender lens as we demand police reform. Join us at the #SayHerName: Reclaiming Our Legacy event, where along with the #SayHerName Mothers Network we are looking forward to celebrating, reflecting and engaging in ritual to center the lives of women, girls, and femmes that should have been. Link to virtual attendance: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/sayhername-8th-anniversary-tickets-470145436657 Read our #SayHerName report: https://www.aapf.org/sayhername This episode features: Amber and Ashley Carr, the sisters of Atatiana Jefferson, and members of the #SayHerName Mothers Network Find out more about The Atatiana Project https://www.atatianaproject.org/ Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks) Produced by Nicole Edwards Mixed by Sean Dunnam Support provided by Rebecca Scheckman, Kevin Minofu, Aniah Francis, Alex Van Biema, and Alisha Grech Music by Blue Dot Sessions Follow us at @intersectionalitymatters, @IMKC_podcast

  • This episode marks the beginning of a new IMKC series called Author Talks, where host Kimberlé Crenshaw sits down with the authors of books banned by anti-CRT legislation. They break down why the featured author’s work is so crucial to an understanding of America's racial history, and why its opponents have labeled the work’s subject matter as forbidden knowledge.

    On this episode, Kim is joined by Ibram X. Kendi, founding Director of Boston University Center for Anti-Racist Research, and the youngest winner of the National Book Award for his non-fiction work Stamped from the Beginning: The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America. They discuss the importance of talking to kids about racism, and unpack the fear-mongering around Kendi’s critically acclaimed books about racism for kids, including Stamped: Racism, Anti-racism, and You, and Stamped (For Kids), both co-authored by Jason Reynolds. These vital books have been challenged or pulled from school libraries across the country.

    To attend the next Author Talk, sign up for updates about the African American Policy Forum’s new book club, called Books Unbanned: From Freedom Riders to Freedom Readers Book Club. Learn about our Reading Circles for kids and adults, Author Talks, and more by clicking here: bit.ly/3On4miA

    This episode features:

    Ibram X. Kendi, National Book Award-winning and #1 New York Times bestselling author of six books for adults, and five books for children.

    Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks).

    Produced, mixed and edited by Nicole Edwards.

    Support provided by Kevin Minofu, and the team at the African American Policy Forum.

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions

    Follow us at @intersectionalitymatters, @IMKC_podcast

  • Host Kimberlé Crenshaw is joined by Cliff Albright, cofounder of Black Voters Matter. Together, Crenshaw and Albright discuss voter suppression, gerrymandering and intimidation tactics -- and the ways they intersect to suppress the voices of Black communities today, and throughout history. They reminisce about their recent cross-country tour, bearing witness to erasure of history at stops along the way -- like the fact that there is not so much as a plaque at the site of a Black newspaper that was burned to the ground during the Wilmington coup in 1898. Listen as Crenshaw and Albright unpack how these moments, when they're erased, separate Black history from American history, and how the struggle for democracy and the struggle against racial suppression are one and the same.

    To learn more about the Books Unbanned: From Freedom Riders to Freedom Readers Tour, and our new book club, visit www.booksunbanned.org

    This episode features:

    Cliff Albright, Cofounder, Black Voters Matter

    Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks)

    Produced and edited by Nicole Edwards

    Mixed by Sean Dunnam

    Support provided by Kevin Minofu, Rebecca Scheckman, Alex van Biema, Nadia Ncube

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions

    Follow us at @intersectionalitymatters, @IMKC_podcast

  • From October 8th to the 21st, we’re hitting the road with the 10 Million More Black Voters initiative. We call our tour Books Unbanned: From Freedom Riders to Freedom Readers, and we're handing out 6,000 copies of books banned by anti-CRT laws across the country. This effort is to ensure that everyone has access to critical literature — especially stories that teach America's true racial history.

    Host Kimberlé Crenshaw is joined by friend and collaborator Barbara Arnwine, president and founder of the Transformative Justice Coalition. They unpack the connection between these banned books, voter suppression, and the vital importance of the upcoming midterm elections.

    To learn more about the Books Unbanned: From Freedom Riders to Freedom Readers tour, visit www.booksunbanned.org

    This episode features:
    Barbara Arnwine, Founder/President, Transformative Justice Coalition

    Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks)

    Produced and edited by Nicole Edwards
    Mixed by Sean Dunnam
    Support provided by Kevin Minofu and Julia Sharpe-Levine

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions

    Follow us at @intersectionalitymatters, @IMKC_podcast

  • Drawing on the history of Freedom Summer, the African American Policy Forum launched its Critical Race Theory Summer School in 2020 as a response to the state-sanctioned murders of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor and countless Black lives that spurred the subsequent summer of racial reckoning. Next week (7/18-22), in the face of a rapidly advancing assault on racial justice, we convene for another edition of Summer School under the theme: “Teaching Truth to Power”. The program will take place over the course of 5 jam-packed days, and will feature 100 instructors, 21 channels and 85+ classes.In anticipation of next week’s gathering, which we encourage all listeners to attend, we’re going to spend today’s episode taking a stroll down memory lane. For the last two years, Intersectionality Matters! has been tracking and analyzing the right wing attacks on CRT and other social justice education. Listen along as Kimberlé revisits our continuing coverage of this backlash- pulling out some of her favorite clips from past episodes to elevate how CRT offers a prism that allows us to see what is truly at stake. In addition to resurfacing highlights from past episodes like Story of Us, The Insurgent Origins of Critical Race Theory, Educators Ungagged, and Having Our Say, this episode also shares information about some of the fascinating classes lined up to be taught next week by a Who’s Who cast of academics, activists and advocates committed to defending and expanding our multiracial democracy.Check out our website to register now! https://www.aapf.org/crtsummerschool.CRT Summer School is running from July 18-22, 2022 and all content for our students will be available on demand until September. There’s a sliding scale for tuition, group rates, and scholarships so everyone can attend. CE/CLE/CTLE credits are available. There is no daylight between democracy and antiracism, and CRT Summer School could not come at a more important or poignant moment than now to show us exactly why that is.Today’s episode features:DAVID BLIGHT - Professor of American History, Yale University; Author, Frederick Douglass: Prophet of FreedomSUMI CHO - Director of Strategic Initiatives, AAPF; Former law professor who taught CRT for 25 yearsALICIA GARZA - Co-Founder, Black Lives Matter; Principal, Black Futures LabMATTHEW HAWN - 10-year educator and baseball coach; Former teacher at Sullivan Central High School in Blountville, TennesseeGLORIA LADSON-BILLINGS - Pedagogical theorist & educator; Author, The Dreamkeepers: Successful Teachers of African American ChildrenKIRSTEN WEST SAVALI - VP, Content: iOne DigitalBRYAN STEVENSON - Founder and Executive Director, Equal Justice Initiative; Author, Just Mercy: A Story of Justice and RedemptionHosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks)Produced and edited by Julia Sharpe-LevineCo-produced by Ashley JulienSupported provided by Destiny Spruill, Kevin Minofu, Rebecca Scheckman, and the African American Policy ForumMusic by Blue Dot SessionsFollow us at @intersectionalitymatters, @IMKC_podcast

  • In this episode, Kimberlé is joined by W. Kamau Bell, director of the four-part documentary series We Need to Talk About Cosby. Together, the two use an intersectional lens to explore Bill Cosby's descent from his seemingly immovable status as "America's Dad.” Unpacking the complex interactions of race and gender that enabled Cosby's alleged sexual violence, this conversation brings a new dimension to the exploration of the mogul's tarnished legacy and the subsequent range of responses from the Black community and beyond. From respectability politics to the emotional reconciliation needed for processing allegations made against our once-heroes, this episode covers it all and reminds audiences that the denial of and ignorance around gendered abuse come from silence and our nation's great, persisting short-term memory.

    With:
    W. KAMAU BELL - Director and Executive Producer, We Need to Talk About Cosby; Host and Executive Producer, United Shades of America, CNN

    Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks)
    Produced by Julia Sharpe-Levine and Ashley Julien
    Edited by Julia Sharpe-Levine
    Supported provided by Destiny Spruill, Rebecca Scheckman, and the African American Policy Forum
    Music by Blue Dot Sessions
    Follow us at @intersectionalitymatters, @IMKC_podcast

  • In this episode, Kimberlé is joined by thought leaders Jelani Cobb, Sherrilyn Ifill, and Cornel West, who share their perspectives on the threats to Black history and realization of Black freedom. The conversation is anchored in the question, "Was 2022 the last Black History Month?” and makes explicit why we must to fight to ensure it was not. Revisiting the crucial insights they raised as part of the MasterClass series, “Black History, Black Freedom, and Black Love,” each guest discusses what lessons we can learn from Black history in this renewed period of racial backlash. With anti-Critical Race Theory bills assaulting curricula in classrooms and gagging conversations about racism across the country, this conversation addresses the urgent need to push back against the reconfiguration of right wing organizing. Having endured the first Black history month commemorated under the vice grip of this anti-truth campaign, this episode invites us into a timely conversation about the past, present, and future of our collective struggle.With:JELANI COBB - Professor, Columbia School of Journalism; Staff writer, New Yorker; Author, "The Matter of Black Lives: Writing From The New Yorker"SHERRILYN IFILL - Former President & Director-Counsel, NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund; Author, "On the Courthouse Lawn: Confronting the Legacy of Lynching in the Twenty-First Century"CORNEL WEST - Professor, Union Theological Seminary; Author, "Race Matters" and "Democracy Matters"Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks)Produced and edited by Julia Sharpe-LevineCo-produced by Ashley Julien Supported provided by Destiny Spruill, Rebecca Scheckman, and the African American Policy ForumMusic by Blue Dot SessionsFollow us at @intersectionalitymatters, @IMKC_podcast