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  • In this special bonus episode, Thomas examines the role of our ancestors in our lives and how lessons from the past can help us heal and evolve as humans.

    Our ancestors have left us with many gifts, but have also burdened us with unintegrated trauma. By learning how to connect to our roots and integrate those fragmented pieces of the past, we can bring light, creativity, innovation, and resilience into our legacies. And by doing this work in combination with personal and collective healing, we can build a better world for future generations.

    ✨ STARTING SOON: Thomas’ all-new course, The Ancestral Healing Code.

    This fall, join Thomas to explore how to work with intergenerational trauma, embody our role as ancestors for future generations, access ancestral wisdom for healing our planet, and tap into the spiritual dimension of our ancestral lineage.

    Come together as a global community for 5-months of live, online sessions to engage in real-time process work and intergenerational dialogue with expert guest speakers including Dr. Gabor Maté and Daniel Maté; Vanessa and Giovanna Andreotti, Serene Thin Elk, and more.

    As a member of the Point of Relation community, you’ll receive a $200 discount on the course tuition.

    Learn more & register with your special discount here:

    👉 https://ancestralhealingcode.com/podcast

    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:
    👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

    ✨ Connect with Thomas here:

    Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
    Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
    YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

  • Thomas is joined by Margaret Wheatley, a writer, teacher, speaker, and organizational consultant whose work focuses on summoning and training leaders who can step up to guide us in building new systems based on shared values, instead of trying to reform the destructive and corrupted systems that currently threaten life on this planet.

    Thomas and Margaret start from the ground up, exploring how collectives and cultures emerge and how they operate, incorporating wisdom from science and biology. They focus on how different cultures define, experience, and approach trauma, and what we can learn from them.

    Drawing on her work in diverse international communities, Margaret believes that the human spirit can transcend its individual experience. Using support from community and lessons from spirituality, we can shake off the loneliness of trauma, unite to reclaim our spirits, and use whatever power and influence we possess for the good of all humans.

    ✨ Registration is open for Thomas’ all-new course, The Ancestral Healing Code.

    This fall, join Thomas to explore how to work with intergenerational trauma, embody our role as ancestors for future generations, access ancestral wisdom for healing our planet, and tap into the spiritual dimension of our ancestral lineage.

    Come together as a global community for 5-months of live, online sessions to engage in real-time process work and intergenerational dialogue with expert guest speakers including Dr. Gabor Maté and Daniel Maté; Vanessa and Giovanna Andreotti, Serene Thin Elk, and more.

    As a member of the Point of Relation community, you’ll receive a $200 discount on the course tuition.

    Learn more & register here:

    👉 https://ancestralhealingcode.com/podcast

    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:
    👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:
    👉 https://www.attunedbook.com

    Margaret Wheatley, Ed.D. began her career as a Peace Corps volunteer in post-war Korea. In many different roles—speaker, teacher, organizational consultant, advisor, and formal leader—her work has deepened into an unshakable conviction that leaders must learn how to invoke people's inherent generosity, creativity, and need for community. She is co-founder and president of The Berkana Institute and the author of thirteen books.

    ✨ Connect with Margaret here:
    👉 https://margaretwheatley.com

    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

    ✨ Connect with Thomas here:

    Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
    Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
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  • Welcome to the 100th episode of Point of Relation! We’re so excited to share this milestone with you and we’re incredibly grateful to all of our listeners for their continued support.

    In this episode, Thomas Hübl explores the concept of relational presence, an essential component of healing personal and collective trauma and nurturing healthy and fulfilling relationships in our lives.

    Thomas shares the fundamentals of presence, why it’s such an important element of the way we communicate, and how we can learn to co-regulate and resonate with the people in our lives.

    By learning and practicing these skills, we’re building our capacity to form safe, coherent spaces that serve as the primary tool for trauma integration. When we train to see our own filters and unconscious areas, we can create an environment that supports collective healing.

    ✨ Registration is open for Thomas’ all-new course, The Ancestral Healing Code.

    This fall, join Thomas to explore how to work with intergenerational trauma, embody our role as ancestors for future generations, access ancestral wisdom for healing our planet, and tap into the spiritual dimension of our ancestral lineage.

    Come together as a global community for 5-months of live, online sessions to engage in real-time process work and intergenerational dialogue with expert guest speakers including Dr. Gabor Maté and Daniel Maté; Vanessa and Giovanna Andreotti, Serene Thin Elk, and more.

    As a member of the Point of Relation community, you’ll receive a $200 discount on the course tuition.

    Learn more & register with your special discount here:

    👉 https://ancestralhealingcode.com/podcast

    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:
    👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

    ✨ Connect with Thomas here:

    Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
    Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
    YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

  • Thomas is joined by Professor of Psychiatry, Philosophy, and Anthropology, and host of the Deep Transformation Podcast, Roger Walsh. They dive deep into how each of us can leverage our unique skills and capacities to help solve the many crises humanity is facing. It can be overwhelming to view complex, interconnected problems like climate change, war, and political unrest, and feel like you’re powerless to make a difference.

    Thomas and Roger assert that we must be willing to face our fears, be present with our emotional responses, and understand the psychological and spiritual roots of these problems to affect meaningful collective change.

    Roger stresses that there are no simple, single solutions for individuals or the collective. But at the core of our distress is a deep compassion for humanity, and tapping into that compassion is a powerful activator for collective healing.

    ✨ Registration is open for Thomas’ all-new course, The Ancestral Healing Code.

    This fall, join Thomas to explore how to work with intergenerational trauma, embody our role as ancestors for future generations, access ancestral wisdom for healing our planet, and tap into the spiritual dimension of our ancestral lineage.

    Come together as a global community for 5-months of live, online sessions to engage in real-time process work and intergenerational dialogue with expert guest speakers including Dr. Gabor Maté and Daniel Maté; Vanessa and Giovanna Andreotti, Serene Thin Elk, and more.

    As a member of the Point of Relation community, you’ll receive a $200 discount on the course tuition.

    Learn more & register here:

    👉 https://ancestralhealingcode.com/podcast

    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:
    👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:
    👉 https://www.attunedbook.com

    Roger Walsh MD, Ph.D. is a professor of psychiatry, philosophy, and anthropology at the University of California, whose research focuses on topics such as meditation, psychological wellbeing, wisdom, and the psychological roots of our global crises. His books include Essential Spirituality: The Seven Central Practices, and The World of Shamanism. He is a student and researcher of contemplative practices, an authorized lama in Tibetan Buddhism, and cohosts the podcast Deep Transformation: Self-Society-Spirit, with listeners in over 170 countries.

    ✨ Connect with Roger here:
    👉 https://www.drrogerwalsh.com

    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

    ✨ Connect with Thomas here:

    Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
    Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
    YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

  • Thomas discusses the importance of ancestral healing and explores how to develop a felt sense of connection with our ancestors. Connection is essential to healing, and connecting with both the wisdom and the unintegrated traumas of our ancestors helps us to be more present and grounded in our own lives, and accelerates our personal and collective healing.

    Our ancestors have handed us a wealth of resources, and also a whole lot of unfinished business. Thomas explores how we can connect to the sacred spark of life that we’ve inherited, and feel into frozen areas of wounding and trauma so that we can heal them before they’re passed on to our descendants.

    He explains how developing an ancestral awareness not only helps us to integrate the trauma that our ancestors could not, but also connects us more deeply with Mother Earth, allows us to be better stewards of our biosphere, and creates a healthier world for future generations to inhabit.

    ✨ Join Thomas for a free, live teaching event: The In-Visible Ancestral Blueprint

    Have you ever wondered how ancestral healing could hold a major key to healing trauma and transforming our collective future? Join Thomas and a global community to explore the personal and spiritual growth that comes from understanding our ancestral blueprints.

    Discover how to heal the past, move beyond hyper-individualism, and create a brighter future for generations to come. Plus, learn about Thomas’s upcoming LIVE course, The Ancestral Healing Code.

    Get all the details and register for free here:
    👉 https://ancestralhealingcode.com/event

    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:
    👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:
    👉 https://www.attunedbook.com

    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

    ✨ Connect with Thomas here:

    Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
    Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
    YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

  • Thomas Hübl and New York Times bestselling author Elise Loehnen discuss the often misunderstood realms of shadow work and collective trauma. They explore how facing our inner darkness can lead to profound personal and societal transformation, and share practical insights on integrating the messy, painful parts of ourselves for spiritual growth and global healing. Without awareness, whatever is being suppressed in the deep layers of our collective shadow will be passed on to future generations. But by implementing new rituals and architectures of healing, we can transform stagnant energy into aliveness, creativity, ethical upgrades, and stronger collaboration across cultural divides.

    ✨ Join Thomas for a free, live teaching event: The In-Visible Ancestral Blueprint

    Have you ever wondered how ancestral healing could hold a major key to healing trauma and transforming our collective future? Join Thomas and a global community to explore the personal and spiritual growth that comes from understanding our ancestral blueprints.

    Discover how to heal the past, move beyond hyper-individualism, and create a brighter future for generations to come. Plus, learn about Thomas’s upcoming LIVE course, The Ancestral Healing Code.

    Get all the details and register for free here:

    👉 https://ancestralhealingcode.com/event

    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:
    👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:
    👉 https://www.attunedbook.com

    Elise Loehnen is a New York Times bestselling author and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, where she interviews cultural luminaries about the big questions of today. She’s the author of the New York Times bestselling On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to be Good. She has also co-written 12 books. She was the chief content officer of goop, where she co-hosted The goop Podcast and The goop Lab on Netflix, and led the brand’s content strategy and programming. She was previously the editorial projects director of Conde Nast Traveler and the editor at large and deputy editor of Lucky Magazine, where she served as the on-air spokesperson.

    ✨ Connect with Elise here:
    👉 https://eliseloehnen.com

    👉 https://eliseloehnen.substack.com

    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

    ✨ Connect with Thomas here:

    Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
    Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
    YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

  • Thomas guides a meditation to help you drop into your body, embrace the sensations and emotions that arise, and use your awareness to help regulate your nervous system, open your heart space, and start to feel more grounded.

    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:
    👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:
    👉 https://www.attunedbook.com

    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

    ✨ Connect with Thomas here:

    Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
    Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
    YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

  • Thomas Hübl explores the intricate relationship between trauma, healing, and spirituality. He explains that trauma is not defined by the events we experience but by our inner responses to overwhelming situations, often leading to emotional, mental, and even societal stagnation.

    He discusses how we can reintegrate the frozen parts of ourselves to support growth, creativity, and deeper connections, and how healing trauma opens us to deeper love and relational awareness.

    With consistent spiritual practice, connection to community, and unwavering compassion for ourselves and others, we can face difficult challenges in our lives and overcome the illusion of separation to address critical global issues.

    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:
    👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:
    👉 https://www.attunedbook.com

    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

    ✨ Connect with Thomas here:

    Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
    Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
    YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

  • Thomas is joined by human rights leader and co-founder of #BlackLivesMatter, Ayọ Tometi, to discuss the powerful connection between activism and healing. Ayọ shares her journey to becoming an activist and her perspective on collective healing, focusing on the power of storytelling and the importance of acknowledging our collective pain.

    She and Thomas explore how creating spaces for deep listening and shared experiences can transform communities, and practical ways to contribute to social change while fostering personal and collective well-being. Ayọ stresses the importance of feeling in order to heal, and shares strategies for maintaining levity and compassion while working in social justice or other emotionally overwhelming fields.

    ✨ Did you miss the 2024 Collective Healing Conference?

    Thomas recently convened a groundbreaking conference featuring conversations with 40+ luminaries and experts, including Dr. Gabor Mate, Alanis Morisette, Dr. Peter Levine, Dr. Mariel Buqué, Dr. Stephen Porges, and more. Sign up below to watch FREE highlights from the conference, or get the full conference package including healing meditations, integration practices, and speaker bonuses to help you explore new pathways to growth, healing, and profound change.

    Register for the free highlights here:
    👉 https://collectivehealingconference.com

    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:
    👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:
    👉 https://www.attunedbook.com

    Ayọ Tometi is an award-winning human rights champion, social entrepreneur, and a co-creator of #BlackLivesMatter, the movement nominated for a 2021 Nobel Peace Prize. In 2021 she became the first woman recipient of the International Peace Honors Award. She is widely respected for her track record and has been hailed as a new civil rights leader by those in the grassroots and major media outlets. Ayọ is a trusted advisor to several organizations and initiatives in the public and private sectors. An ardent futurist, Ayọ has committed her life to joyfully and rigorously engaging people in both imagining and forging a better world together.

    ✨ Connect with Ayọ here:
    👉https://ayotometi.org

    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

    ✨ Connect with Thomas here:

    Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
    Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
    YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

  • Thomas is joined by Helena Norberg-Hodge, a bestselling author, filmmaker, and pioneer of the new economy movement. They discuss the fundamental importance of reconnecting with nature, local food systems, and community as antidotes to the damaging impacts of globalization.

    She shares her experiences working with Indigenous cultures and explores how localization not only heals people and places but also addresses major issues like climate change, food security, and social fragmentation. Together, they explore the intersection of systemic trauma, environmental sustainability, and the path toward a more interconnected and resilient future.

    ✨ Did you miss the 2024 Collective Healing Conference?

    Thomas recently convened a groundbreaking conference featuring conversations with 40+ luminaries and experts, including Dr. Gabor Mate, Alanis Morisette, Dr. Peter Levine, Dr. Mariel Buqué, Dr. Stephen Porges, and more. Sign up below to watch FREE highlights from the conference, or get the full conference package including healing meditations, integration practices, and speaker bonuses to help you explore new pathways to growth, healing, and profound change.

    Register for the free highlights here:
    👉 https://collectivehealingconference.com

    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:
    👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:
    👉 https://www.attunedbook.com

    Helena Norberg-Hodge is a linguist, author, filmmaker, and pioneer of the new economy movement. She’s the founder and director of Local Futures, and the convenor of World Localization Day and the Planet Local Summit. She is the founder of the International Alliance for Localisation and a co-founder of the International Forum on Globalization and the Global Ecovillage Network. Based on decades of experience in indigenous cultures, Helena has been promoting a big-picture understanding of the foundations of human, as well as ecological wellbeing.

    ✨ Connect with Helena here:
    👉 http://www.helenanorberghodge.com

    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

    ✨ Connect with Thomas here:

    Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
    Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
    YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

  • In this solo episode, Thomas unravels the mysteries of attunement. Discover how this practice goes far beyond conventional emotional intelligence and continues into deeper connections and spiritual growth. Uncover the keys to transparent communication, trauma healing, and accessing subtle spiritual information for personal and collective transformation.

    ✨ Did you miss the 2024 Collective Healing Conference?

    Thomas recently convened a groundbreaking conference featuring conversations with 40+ luminaries and experts, including Dr. Gabor Mate, Alanis Morisette, Dr. Peter Levine, Dr. Mariel Buqué, Dr. Stephen Porges, and more. Sign up below to watch FREE highlights from the conference, or get the full conference package including healing meditations, integration practices, and speaker bonuses to help you explore new pathways to growth, healing, and profound change.

    Register for the free highlights here:
    👉 https://collectivehealingconference.com

    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:
    👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:
    👉 https://www.attunedbook.com

    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

    ✨ Connect with Thomas here:

    Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
    Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
    YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

  • In this special bonus episode, Thomas reads Verse 25 from the Tao Te Ching, offers his analysis, and shares how we can come back to living a life that is more informed by inner balance in a world that is often out of balance.

    This episode is dedicated to a cherished member of our team, the late Digo Delgado. His adventurous spirit, kindness, and laugh touched everyone who had the privilege of knowing him. We dedicate this episode in loving memory to Digo, with gratitude for all of his contributions and the time we shared.

    ✨ Did you miss the 2024 Collective Healing Conference?

    Thomas recently convened a groundbreaking conference featuring conversations with 40+ luminaries and experts, including Dr. Gabor Mate, Alanis Morisette, Dr. Peter Levine, Dr. Mariel Buqué, Dr. Stephen Porges, and more. Sign up below to watch FREE highlights from the conference, or get the full conference package including healing meditations, integration practices, and speaker bonuses to help you explore new pathways to growth, healing, and profound change.

    Register for the free highlights here:
    👉 https://collectivehealingconference.com

    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:
    👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

    ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:
    👉 https://www.attunedbook.com

    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

    ✨ Connect with Thomas here:

    Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
    Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
    YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

  • Thomas is joined by Buddhist teacher, Founder and head teacher of Upaya Zen Center, social activist, and author, Roshi Joan Halifax. They discuss Roshi Joan’s pioneering work in end-of-life care, and how spirituality can inform and inspire more compassionate activism.

    Roshi Joan shares her insights on how decades of practice have equipped her to navigate suffering with resilience, how compassion benefits both the giver and receiver, and the importance of embracing moral challenges with grace. She and Thomas also explore the importance of community, mindfulness, and meditation in healing trauma, and how this can lead to beautiful post-traumatic growth.

    ✨ Did you miss the 2024 Collective Healing Conference?

    Thomas recently convened a groundbreaking conference featuring conversations with 40+ luminaries and experts, including Dr. Gabor Mate, Alanis Morisette, Dr. Peter Levine, Dr. Mariel Buqué, Dr. Stephen Porges, and more. Sign up below to watch FREE highlights from the conference, or get the full conference package including healing meditations, integration practices, and speaker bonuses to help you explore new pathways to growth, healing, and profound change.

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    Roshi Joan Halifax, Ph.D. is a Buddhist teacher, Founder and Head Teacher of Upaya Zen Center in Santa Fe, New Mexico, a social activist, and author, and in her early years an anthropologist. She is a pioneer in the field of end-of-life care and has lectured on death and dying at many academic institutions and medical centers around the world. She has received many awards and honors for her work as a social and environmental activist and in the end-of-life care field. For decades, she has worked with dying people and their families and taught healthcare professionals and family caregivers the psycho-social, ethical, and spiritual aspects of care for the dying.

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    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

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  • Thomas is joined by internationally recognized speaker, author, and expert in the field of attachment theory and trauma resolution, Dr. Diane Poole Heller. They discuss Diane’s work in attachment theory, exploring how our early experiences with our caregivers affect our attachment styles, and what we can do to move into secure attachment in our relationships.

    Dr. Heller views trauma as a broken connection—with ourselves, our lives, the earth, or other people—and explains how therapists and healers can co-regulate and attune with their clients’ nervous systems to create a safe environment for transforming trauma. Dr. Heller believes that we can interface with the energy of trauma in a way that doesn’t cause overwhelm, and opens us to maturation, spiritual experiences, and changes in consciousness.

    She and Thomas also discuss how working collectively in a group amplifies healing, and how all therapists and healers are ultimately agents of grace.

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    Diane Poole Heller, PhD is an internationally recognized speaker, author, and expert in the field of attachment theory and trauma resolution. Her signature approach—DARe (Dynamic Attachment Repatterning experience)—provides therapists and individuals with relevant skills and practical exercises that facilitate healing from attachment and trauma wounds. Diane’s training programs, books, lectures, and work as a therapist have helped countless people in their healing journey toward experiencing greater intimacy, wholeness, and more fulfilling relationships.

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    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

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  • Thomas shares deep insights into how we can embody the soul's wisdom and increase our capacity to be present and form a deeper alliance with life. He shares tools and practices for becoming more grounded and spacious in our daily lives, and in challenging situations, and how that gives us the courage, curiosity, and strength to turn difficulties into growth, expansion, and wisdom.

    He also offers embodiment practices to help us connect our physical and emotional data streams, creating a more coherent awareness of our internal processes, and increasing our natural intuition and capacity for change.

    As Thomas explains, we are all part of an interconnected world, but trauma tends to create a sense of separation. Reconnecting to the essence of life helps us develop a deeper sense of ourselves so that we can achieve greater regulation and resilience.

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    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

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  • Thomas is joined by global wellbeing and wellbeing economics expert, program facilitator, and researcher, Julia Kim. They discuss how Bhutan's holistic approach to economics, deeply rooted in spiritual and cultural values, prioritizes individual and collective happiness and wellbeing over profit and expansion of capital.

    Julia explains the concept of Gross National Happiness (GNH) in Bhutan, contrasting it with the more conventional measure of Gross Domestic Product (GDP), and how this system is more regenerative than extractive, less driven by overconsumption, and leads to better outcomes for people and the environment.

    At a time of personal and collective trauma, burnout, and loss of hope, strengthening our capacity for inner wellbeing and authentic leadership is critical for enabling and inspiring wider organizational and systemic transformations.

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    Julia Kim is an explorer of the terrain connecting inner transformation and systems change. She draws on her past career as a physician and public health researcher in Africa and Asia, Senior Policy Advisor at the United Nations (UNDP and UNICEF), and Program Director at the Gross National Happiness (GNH) Centre Bhutan. She integrates global experience in the fields of leadership development, contemplative practice, program facilitation, research, and policy in the fields of wellbeing, wellbeing economics, global health, and sustainable development. Julia is an associate of the Presencing Institute, and an Executive Committee member of the Club of Rome. She holds degrees from Cornell University, the University of Manitoba, Tufts University, and the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.

    ✨ Connect with Julia here:

    👉 https://www.linkedin.com/in/julia-kim-36873644/

    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

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  • Thomas is joined by celebrated author, educator, and meditation teacher, Ruth King. They explore the profound responsibilities and perspectives that come with eldership and the importance of presence in guiding others. Ruth shares her wisdom on racial healing, the power of community, and the role of artistry as cultural medicine.

    She and Thomas explore the healing potential of mindful communication and the value of embracing impermanence to alleviate suffering. Ruth also shares reflections on integrating Buddhist Dharma teachings into social contexts and how words can heal when used with conscious intention.

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    ✨ Connect with Ruth here:

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    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

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  • Thomas is joined by playwright, author, performer, activist, and creator of “The Vagina Monologues,” V (formerly Eve Ensler.) They discuss the profound impact of trauma and the power of healing through collective and community-based approaches.

    V shares her personal journey from a tumultuous childhood to becoming a global advocate for women's rights, emphasizing the transformative power of love, art, performance, and community in overcoming trauma and reckoning with the harms of patriarchy.

    They explore the revolutionary work of the City of Joy in Congo, and how its unique, supportive environment fosters healing and helps elevate women into community leaders. V's experiences in war zones and with victims of violence highlight the pervasive and normalized violence against women, influencing her life's mission to address this global issue.

    This conversation includes the topic of sexual abuse. While it is not the primary topic, and it is addressed with care and sensitivity, we wanted to offer this content warning for listeners who may not want to engage with this subject.

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    V (formerly Eve Ensler) is the Tony award-winning playwright and author of the theatrical phenomenon, The Vagina Monologues. She is the author of books including The Apology and In the Body of the World, as well as The New York Times best-seller I am an Emotional Creature. She helped create the play That Kindness: Nurses in Their Own Words presented by BAM. She's the founder of V-Day, a global activist movement that has raised over 120 million dollars to end violence against all women (cisgender and transgender,) those who hold fluid identities, nonbinary people, girls, and the planet—and the founder of One Billion Rising, the largest global mass action to end gender-based violence in over 200 countries, as well as a co-founder of City of Joy. She writes regularly for The Guardian.

    ✨ Connect with V here:

    👉 https://www.eveensler.org/

    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

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  • Thomas is joined by filmmaker, philanthropist, and activist Abigail Disney. They discuss how Abigail’s activism has been informed by the darker aspects of the Disney company and family legacy, and how that legacy is reflective of larger problems in American society.

    They also dive deep into the idea of moral injury, which arises when individuals are forced to act against their ethical values, leading to deep psychological and emotional wounds. She and Thomas explore how moral injury can result from systemic failures and the personal struggles of those in conflict zones. Abigail critiques the tendency to flatten historical figures into one-dimensional heroes or villains, arguing for a more nuanced understanding of their actions and legacies.

    She and Thomas agree on the need for collective healing processes to address the toxic impacts of hyper-individualism and the collective trauma of global conflicts. Abigail stresses the importance of remaining open to uncertainty, and advocates for humility and flexibility in addressing complex societal issues, suggesting that this approach is essential for building a more understanding and peaceful society.

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    Abigail E. Disney is a philanthropist and social activist who has worked with organizations supporting peacebuilding, gender justice, and systemic cultural change. She is an Emmy award-winning documentary filmmaker and Chair and Co-Founder of Level Forward, an ecosystem of storytellers, entrepreneurs, and social change-makers dedicated to balancing artistic vision, social impact, and stakeholder return. She created the nonprofit Peace is Loud, which uses storytelling to advance social movements, and the Daphne Foundation, which supports organizations working for a more equitable, fair, and peaceful New York City.

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    👉 https://abigaildisney.com

    👉 https://americandreamdoc.com

    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

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  • In this guided meditation, Thomas invites you to expand your awareness and tune in to the subtle light of your soul.

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    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

    In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

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