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What happens when you try to monitor something fundamentally unpredictable? In this featured guest episode, Wayne Segar from Dynatrace joins Corey Quinn to tackle the messy reality of observing AI workloads in enterprise environments. They explore why traditional monitoring breaks down with non-deterministic AI systems, how AI Centers of Excellence are helping overcome compliance roadblocks, and why “human in the loop” beats full automation in most real-world scenarios.
From Cursor’s AI-driven customer service fail to why enterprises are consolidating from 15+ observability vendors, this conversation dives into the gap between AI hype and operational reality, and why the companies not shouting the loudest about AI might be the ones actually using it best.
Show Highlights(00:00) - Cold Open
(00:48) – Introductions and what Dynatrace actually does(03:28) – Who Dynatrace serves
(04:55) – Why AI isn't prominently featured on Dynatrace's homepage
(05:41) – How Dynatrace built AI into its platform 10 years ago
(07:32) – Observability for GenAI workloads and their complexity
(08:00) – Why AI workloads are "non-deterministic" and what that means for monitoring
(12:00) – When AI goes wrong
(13:35) – “Human in the loop”: Why the smartest companies keep people in control
(16:00) – How AI Centers of Excellence are solving the compliance bottleneck
(18:00) – Are enterprises too paranoid about their data?
(21:00) – Why startups can innovate faster than enterprises
(26:00) – The "multi-function printer problem" plaguing observability platforms
(29:00) – Why you rarely hear customers complain about Dynatrace
(31:28) – Free trials and playground environments
About Wayne SegarWayne Segar is Director of Global Field CTOs at Dynatrace and part of the Global Center of Excellence where he focuses on cutting-edge cloud technologies and enabling the adoption of Dynatrace at large enterprise customers. Prior to joining Dynatrace, Wayne was a Dynatrace customer where he was responsible for performance and customer experience at a large financial institution.
Links
Dynatrace website: https://dynatrace.com
Dynatrace free trial: https://dynatrace.com/trial
Dynatrace AI observability: https://dynatrace.com/platform/artificial-intelligence/
Wayne Segar on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wayne-segar/
SponsorDynatrace: http://www.dynatrace.com
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How do you wrangle the chaos of AWS cost tools and live presentations? In this episode of Screaming in the Cloud, Corey Quinn is joined by AWS’s Bowen Wang and Matt Berk to break down their re:Invent talk and everything that almost went off the rails. From surprise tsunami alerts to last-minute feature changes, they explore the anxiety and art behind presenting at scale. They also look at how power user feedback shapes tools like the AWS Pricing Calculator, why storytelling matters more than specs, and what it’s like co-presenting with notes that say “make the rabbit joke.” They also discuss AWS’s internal planning process, how customers can get involved in talks, and where to catch them next.
Show Highlights
(0:00) Intro
(1:38) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(2:35) The importance of collecting feedback before launching a product
(4:52) The difference between the intended use of a product and how it’s actually used
(8:52) How Bowen and Matt were able to be so prepared for their presentation
(13:01) What many people don’t realize goes into practicing for a presentation
(17:14) How having a storyline helped Bowen and Matt facilitate better breakout sessions
(18:26) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(21:02) The importance of being able to go with the flow during presentations
(22:42) Why knowing your audience is essential for having a good presentation
(24:32) Choosing between breadth and depth when giving presentations
(25:05) Bowen and Matt’s advice for people who want to have their opportunity to give a talk with an AWS service team
(34:22) How to keep up with Matt and Bowen
About Matt Berk
Matt Berk is an AWS Principal Technical Account Manager at based in Brooklyn who's passionate about storytelling, cloud technologies, and FinOps. When he's not solving customer issues, Matt can be either be found in nature with his dog Ollie, at popular NYC restaurants, or at home planning his next trip to a theme park.
About Bowen Wang
Bowen Wang is a Principal Product Marketing Manager for AWS Billing and Cost Management Services, where she focuses on enabling finance and business leaders to better understand the value of the cloud and ways to optimize their cloud financial management. In her previous career, she helped a tech start-up enter the Chinese market. When she's not helping customers optimize their cloud costs, you can find her cheering for F1 races with her husband or juggling life as a mom to an energetic toddler and a playful poodle.
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AWS Cloud Financial Management Blog Channel: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws-cloud-financial-management/AWS Twitch Channel: https://www.twitch.tv/awsAWS Tech Tales: https://community.aws/livestreams/aws-tech-talesThe authenticated AWS Pricing Calculator is now generally available: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws-cloud-financial-management/the-authenticated-aws-pricing-calculator-is-now-generally-available/ -
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What’s going on with Infrastructure as Code? On this episode, Corey is joined by Firefly CEO and Co-Founder Ido Neeman to discuss the findings of the State of IaC 2025 report. Throughout their chat, Corey and Ido discuss the evolution of IaC adoption in enterprises, the challenges of managing multi-cloud and multi-IaC environments, and the importance of disaster recovery as code. The conversation also touches on the rise of open-source projects like Open Tofu and the significant role of automation in cloud cost optimization. This episode not only reflects on recent trends, but highlights the importance of robust cloud governance and the continuous need for innovation amidst increasing cloud complexity.
Show Highlights(0:00) Intro
(0:59) Firefly sponsor read
(1:29) Firefly's semi-pivot to AI
(2:54) The findings of the State of IaC 2025 survey
(5:40) How are people working in multi-cloud environments
(8:14) Is there a responsible way to use Helm charts?
(11:21) The currrent state of Pulumi
(12:46) Problems that can be encountered with large enterprises
(18:07) The continuum between innovation and optimization
(21:51) Firefly sponsor read
(22:31) Are companies actually adopting infrastructure as code?
(28:49) The most interesting ways that Ido has seen enterprises use IaC in production
(33:40) What's stopping companies from fully leveraging IaC?
(41:06) Where you can find more from Ido and Firefly
About Ido NeemanIdo Neeman is CEO and co-founder of Firefly, and the former CEO and co-founder of Nuweba, the fast and secure serverless platform. To the diversity of roles he has held, he brings more than a decade's experience in the elite Israeli intelligence corps, and later led the technology portfolio at a hedge fund. Today, he is focusing on helping organizations tackle cloud chaos through Infrastructure as Code.
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Firefly’s website: https://www.firefly.ai/The State of IaC 2025: https://www.firefly.ai/state-of-iac-2025Ido on Twitter: https://x.com/idoneeman?lang=enIdo on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ido-neeman/?originalSubdomain=ilSponsor
Firefly: https://www.firefly.ai/
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How does one manage to simplify the complexities of the NAT Gateway? In this episode of "Screaming in the Cloud," Corey Quinn interviews Malith Rajapakse, a DevOps engineer who has recently received acclaim for his blog post discussing the Managed NAT Gateway. Where AWS lacks in its documentation, Malith is a NATural at breaking things down. He’s so great at it that Corey had to invite him on the show! Malith shares the story behind his popular post, his creative process, and his use of interactive diagrams and engaging content. He and Corey also discuss the challenges of documentation and making technical subjects more appealing. Thankfully, Malith has already done that in written form, so enjoy this episode as he speaks it into the world!
Show Highlights(0:00) Intro
(1:24) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(1:58) Malith's background before his blog post
(4:21) Why Malith wrote about the Managed NAT Gateway
(5:38) Corey's problems with Managed NAT Gateway and why Malith's blog post impressed him
(10:05) The interactive elements of Malith's blog post and how they were made
(12:21) Maltih's front-end experience
(14:47) Transitioning from front-end to DevOps through JavaScript
(16:20) The juxtaposition of Malith's blog post vs. AWS's official documentation
(18:05) How AWS's documentation of the managed NAT gateway isn't user-friendly
(22:27) Why Malith went all out for his first blog post
(23:17) Corey's constructive feedback for Malith
(26:05) Where you can find more from Malith
About Malith Rajapakse
Malith is a Devops engineer creating visualisations at https://malithr.com/.
Malith’s blog: https://malithr.com/Interactive AWS NAT Gateway: https://malithr.com/aws/natgateway/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/malith-rajapakse/Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/malithr.comTwitter: https://x.com/malithrajReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/mdilraj/Sam Rose’s blog: https://samwho.dev/Benjamin Dicken’s blog post on IO devices and latency: https://planetscale.com/blog/io-devices-and-latencyJosh W Comeau’s blog: https://www.joshwcomeau.com/Killed By Google: https://killedbygoogle.com/
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The Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com
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Microsoft has its fingers in a lot of pots, but just how secure are said pots? On this episode, Corey is joined by Ann Johnson, Corporate Vice President and Deputy CISO of Microsoft's Customer Security Management Office. Ann talks about her 40-year professional journey and how it's culminated in her current role. Corey is known to “punch up” at the big guys in the tech industry, but he and Ann talk about the challenges of corporate leadership and being a public face in such a prominent company. Since it’s 2025, of course, they’re going to talk about AI’s pros and cons (and why it shouldn’t be used to make art).
Show Highlights
(0:00) Intro
(0:51) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(1:25) What Ann's been up to since she and Corey last spoke
(2:29) The makeup of Microsoft Security
(4:28) The unique company culture at Microsoft
(8:42) What's going on with Microsoft Azure
(10:31) How Ann handles the immense pressure of working in Microsoft Security
(14:13) The toxic nature of online criticism
(19:57) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(20:24) The value of telling your leaders the truth
(23:31) Ann's thoughts on the current state of AI
(28:44) Properly defining what AI can and can't do
(30:54) Why Ann helps fund multiple STEM scholarships
(32:16) The need for the humanities alongside tech
(33:38) Where you can find more from Ann Johnson
About Ann Johnson
Ann Johnson is Corporate Vice President and Deputy CISO at Microsoft. In this role, Ann drives all external engagement for the Microsoft Office of the CISO. She is a long-tenured, recognized thought leader on cybersecurity, published author, and a sought-after global speaker and digital author specializing in cyber resilience, online fraud, cyberattacks, compliance, and security.Ann challenges traditional schools of thought and cyber-norms–from the way the tech industry tackles cyber threats to the language it uses to communicate–and encourages the industry to get outside its comfort zones and expand how it addresses the evolving threat landscape with the power of technology and people. As a global cybersecurity leader and strategist, she is looking ahead at how today’s cybersecurity investments will impact tomorrow’s cybersecurity reality.
Ann currently serves on the Board of Directors of N-Able, Human Security, Datavant, and is Member of the Board of Advisors for Cybersecurity Center of Excellence, WA and the Signal Cyber Museum Society. Ann is also an Executive Sponsor of the Microsoft Women in Cybersecurity Group.
Ann Johnson’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ann-johnsons/Microsoft Security: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/securityAfternoon Cyber Tea: afternooncybertea.com
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SponsorThe Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com
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If you believed, they put a data center on the moon. No, for real, they did, and it’s partially thanks to Lili Rogowsky, partner at Atypical Ventures. Lili joins Corey to discuss her unconventional leap from law to venture capital. Although she made a sharp turn career-wise, Lili remains grounded in the often heartless world of venture capital—highlighting the importance of empathy and technical prowess in founding successful enterprises. Out of all resources, time carries the heftiest price tag, and this half-hour episode is a low-risk, high-yield investment.
Show Highlights(0:00) Intro
(1:12) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(1:46) How Corey (kinda) met Lili
(3:38) What attracted Corey to Atypical Ventures
(5:58) How Atypical helped put a data center on the moon
(8:34) VC “done right”
(9:59) What led Lili to run a VC firm
(13:43) Quitting jobs until you find something you like
(16:28) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(16:54) The value of sharing your time
(21:44) Risk assessment, well-dressed horses, and punching up in comedy
(24:44) The importance of humility in life and business
(29:15) Where you can find more from Lili and Atypical Ventures
About Lili RogowskyLili is a dynamic investor, attorney, advisor, and entrepreneur. She is a partner at Atypical Ventures, an early-stage fund that identifies and invests in “engineers with empathy” working on plausible science fiction.
A voracious reader driven by her curiosity and love of type 2 fun, Lili’s experience includes (in no particular order) mountaineering, visual arts, marine science, founding a law firm, cave/ shark diving (not necessarily at the same time), data privacy/ security, gardening, recruiting, battling NYC rats that eat her car, and interplanetary internet.
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Atypical Ventures: atypical.com Email Lili: [email protected]Sponsor
The Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com
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Dropping and sharing files should be easy. What a novel idea. On this episode, Corey speaks with Timo Josten, the sole developer behind Dropshare. We bring up the fact that he’s the only guy working on it because the tool is quite impressive! Corey loves it and so does an entire community of folks on Github! Together, they discuss the evolution and functionality of Dropshare. Timo also shares how he balance of enhancing Dropshare, emphasizing user feedback, and customization options, all while offering feature updates and maintaining sustainability.
Show Highlights(0:00) Intro
(1:06) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(1:39) What does Dropshare do?
(6:10) Dropshare's impressive flexibility and dedicated community
(10:27) How Timo landed on Dropshare's business model
(12:38) What's new in Dropshare 6?
(16:09) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(16:36) Determining what should be an update or part of the next version of Dropshare
(18:30) Dropshare’s iOS app
(21:04) The perks of being able to configure deletion in Dropshare
(25:45) Dropshare's thriving GitHub community
(29:26) Where you can find more from Timo and Dropshare
About Timo JostenTimo Josten is the developer of Dropshare, the macOS and iOS app to upload anything anywhere.
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Timo’s LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timo-josten-493962185/Timo’s personal website: https://josten.ioDropshare: https://dropshare.app/shitposting.picturesSponsor
The Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com
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How you learn is important. Corey Quinn is joined by Aditya Bhargava, a Staff Software Engineer at Etsy and the author of Grokking Algorithms. They talk about the nuances of technical learning and the contrasting philosophies of "just in time" versus "just in case" learning. In this episode, Aditya emphasizes the importance of effective teaching methods and the value of incorporating fun things like drawings into technical explanations. This approach also bleeds into his illustrated Substack, DuckTypes. As Corey and Aditya discuss, a good, informative book doesn’t need to drag on, and this quick, insightful, 30-minute conversation is no different.
Show Highlights(0:00) Intro
(1:24) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(1:58) Corey's admiration for Aditya's writing
(5:40) How Aditya clearly explains AWS networking
(8:06) “Just in case” vs. “just in time”
(10:15) Why business books don't need to be hundreds of pages long
(14:19) Reading for pleasure vs. reading for work
(16:57) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(17:24) Explaining Aditya's book on algorithms
(20:07) The great editor behind Aditya's book
(22:20) DuckTyped and how Aditya got into AWS networking
(25:16) Where networking folks fall in the era of the cloud
(28:12) The importance of staying up-to-date in your field
(31:46) Where you can find more from Aditya
About Aditya Bhargava
Aditya Bhargava is a Software Engineer with a dual background in Computer Science and Fine Arts. He blogs on programming at adit.io.
Aditya’s blog: https://www.adit.io/Grokking Algorithms, Second Edition: https://www.manning.com/books/grokking-algorithms-second-editionDuckTyped: https://www.ducktyped.org/Last Skeet in AWS: https://lastskeetinaws.com/
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The Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com
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Sysdig’s 2025 Cloud-Native and Security Usage Report is hot off the presses, and Corey has questions. On this episode, he’s joined by Crystal Morin, a Cybersecurity Strategist at Sysdig, to break down the trends of the past year. They discuss Sysdig’s approach to detecting and responding to security and the success the company has seen with the rollout of Sysdig Sage (an AI product that Corey thinks is actually useful). They also chat about what’s driving a spike in machine identities, practical hygiene in cloud environments, and the crucial importance of automated responses to maintain robust security in the face of increasingly sophisticated cyber threats.
Show Highlights(0:00) Intro
(0:39) Sysdig sponsor read
(2:22) Explaining Sysdig's 5/5/5 Benchmark
(4:06) What does Sysdig's work entail?
(10:03) Cloud security trends that have changed over the last year
(14:30) Sysdig sponsor read
(15:16) How Sysdig is using AI in its security products
(19:09) How many users are adopting AI tools like Sysdig Sage
(25:51) The reality behind the recent spike of machine identities in security
(29:24) Handling the scaling of machine identities
(35:37) Where you can find Sysdig's 2025 Cloud-Native and Security Usage Report
About Crystal MorinCrystal Morin is a Cybersecurity Strategist with more than 10 years of experience in threat analysis and research. Crystal started her career as both a Cryptologic Language Analyst and Intelligence Analyst in the United States Air Force and as a contractor for Booz Allen Hamilton, where she helped develop and evolve their cyber threat intelligence community and threat-hunting capabilities. In 2022, Crystal joined Sysdig as a Threat Research Engineer on the Sysdig Threat Research Team, where she worked to discover and analyze cyber threat actors taking advantage of the cloud. Today, Crystal bridges the gap between business and security through cloud-focused content for leaders and practitioners alike. Crystal’s thought leadership has been foundational for pieces such as the “2024 Cloud-Native Security and Usage Report” and “Cloud vs. On-Premises: Unraveling the Mystery of the Dwell Time Disparity,” among others.
Sysdig’s 2025 Cloud-Native and Security Usage Report: https://sysdig.com/2025-cloud-native-security-and-usage-report/Sysdig on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sysdig/Crystal’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crystal-morin/
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SponsorSysdig: https://sysdig.com/
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What’s the difference between marketing and BS? On this episode, Corey Quinn is joined by Jonathan Cowperthwait, Duckbill’s brand-new Head of Marketing. Jonathan's career path is a bit unconventional. After all, not everyone can say their professional journey was influenced by The West Wing. Even though he’s a marketer by trade, Jonathan still has the technical know-how needed to work in the often expensive world of cloud economics. Have you ever wanted to know what The Duckbill Group’s relationship with AWS is really like? How fun is it to sit on domains like “oldmanstartup?” Is there a similarity between clouds and butts? This interview is the inside scoop on The Duckbill Group that you never knew you needed.
Show Highlights(0:00) Intro
(1:11) Duckbill Group sponsor read
(1:45) Acquiring the Duckbill Group office post-pandemic
(2:52) Keeping your pants on during a pandemic so you can officiate your nanny's wedding
(6:07) Jonathan's background prior to joining The Duckbill Group
(11:29) What Duckbill was looking for when they hired Jonathan
(14:54) When marketing begins to feel like spam
(15:40) The fun of having disposable domains and email addresses
(18:20) The importance of a good name for a product
(19:38) Duckbill Group sponsor read
(20:07) The Duckbill Group isn't just Corey Quinn
(21:03) The "Cloud to Butt" extension
(24:01) Corey's beef with Google's AI search engine
(24:57) What can people expect from the Duckbill Group's new marketing effort
(30:58) Where you can find more from Jonathan
About Jonathan CowperthwaitJonathan Cowperthwait does positioning, messaging, and go-to-market strategy to maximize awareness and revenue for technology brands of all sizes.
He prides himself on being a slow runner, fast talker, and good writer.
Jonathan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cowperthwait/Jonathan on Bluesky: https://web-cdn.bsky.app/profile/cowp.coEmail Jonathan: [email protected] Corey: [email protected]
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The Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com
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What were you doing at the age of 12? We’d wager to bet you weren’t getting invited to Google I/O. On this episode, Corey chats with Alex Zenla, the founder and CTO of Edera. Only in her mid-20s, Alex already has more than a decade’s worth of professional experience working in the tech industry. They discuss how Alex found her way into programming at a young age, her experiences with open source projects like the Dart Project and Chromium OS, and getting contacted by Google’s lawyers as a preteen. You’ll also get to learn about Alex’s company, Edera, and their creative approaches to Kubernetes container security using Xen hypervisors. Did we forget to mention that there are multiple sidebars about Minecraft in this one? So grab your pick axe, put on your headphones, and a Google legal will be at your door by the time we wrap up this conversation.
Show Highlights
(0:00) Intro
(0:54) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(1:28) What is Edera?
(2:18) Who is the target customer for Edera's product
(7:50) Breaking down the overhead makeup of Edera
(10:28) How Edera sidesteps the problems with container isolation
(13:20) Alex's history working with tech
(15:40) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(16:23) How a phone call with a lawyer helped get Alex to Google I/O at the age of 12
(18:55) Starting Alex's proper tech career thanks to a Dart library
(21:24) The important role of Minecraft in Alex's life and career
(23:40) The value of good networking
(28:15) What it's been like for Alex to raise a Series A
(29:56) Where you can find more from Alex
About Alex ZenlaAlex Zenla is a technologist that has 10+ years experience in the full-time corporate world who is rebuilding the foundations of infrastructure to be secure-by-design.
Alex grew an interest in computers at the age of 7, learning about hypervisors and hardware technologies. At the age of 11, she was inspired by the concept of Chrome OS to get involved in low level systems, where she contributed to the Chromium and Chromium OS projects. This led to being invited to Google I/O 2012 by the Chrome OS team at just the age of 12. Eventually, the Dart programming language came along, and Alex got deeply involved in the ecosystem, contributing to the language and standard library, and building core open source technologies. At the age of 14, she was hired by an IoT company called DGLogik to build an IoT platform that could scale across complex networks, launching my career in IoT. At DGLogik, Alex became deeply involved in Google's IoT technologies across multiple divisions, ultimately ending up working at Google on their IoT platform for their internal Real Estate. In 2024, she retired from the IoT data sphere and started Edera, a company that is making computing secure-by-design.
Alex on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/alex.zenla.io
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SponsorThe Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com
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Andy Warfield joins Corey in this episode to discuss the evolution of storage technology at Amazon. This includes the evolution of S3 from archival storage to supporting modern AI and analytics. As Vice President and Distinguished Engineer at AWS, Andy is able to explain performance-enhancing innovations like S3 Tables and Common Runtime (CRT). On the other hand, challenges like compaction and namespace structuring are discussed. Reflecting on his journey from working on the Xen hypervisor to AWS, Andy shares insights into scaling S3, including buckets spanning millions of hard disks.
Show Highlights
(0:00) Intro
(1:09) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(1:43) Andy’s background
(3:38) How AWS envisioned services being used vs. what customers actually do with them
(6:54) The frustration of legacy applications not keeping up with the times
(10:14) Why S3 is so accurate
(15:29) S3 as a role model for how a service should be run
(18:04) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(18:46) Why AWS made Iceberg into a native offering
(23:50) Why S3 Tables is slightly more expensive
(28:23) How Andy handled the transition from Zen to Nitro
(32:22) What Andy is currently excited about
About Andy Warfield
Andrew Warfield is a VP / Distinguished Engineer at Amazon. As a senior technical leader at one of the world's largest technology companies, he plays a crucial role in shaping Amazon's engineering strategies and initiatives.
Links
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andywarfield/ Email: [email protected]Sponsor
The Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com
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Ever wondered how Corey got to where he is today? You have Brian Weber to partially thank for that. On this episode of Screaming in the Cloud, Corey catches up with his old friend and mentor to talk about the ever-evolving world of tech. Brian’s been around the block a time or two having done significant stints at Pinterest, Facebook, and Twitter (during the Elon acquisition no less)! As Corey and Brian catch up, you’ll hear them chat about the importance of empathy, coaching the next generation of tech workers, and their conspiracies surrounding Google and Kubernetes. So grab your tinfoil hats, it’s time to go Screaming!
Show Highlights(0:00) Intro
(0:53) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(1:27) When Brian took Corey under his win
(3:21) Brian's experience coming to the cloud as an engineer
(7:24) Why it's important to reinvent yourself in tech
(8:54) How Brian reacted to the industry adopting Kubernetes over Mesos Marathon
(10:31) Kubernetes conspiracy theories
(12:30) The importance of empathy in tech
(15:46) Trying to advise younger generations entering tech
(19:19) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(20:02) Working at Twitter when jobs started getting cut and the site frequently went down
(22:41) The best way to navigate certification expiration
(26:08) Talking about "The Golden Path”
(28:52) Why you should always plan ahead in tech (and life)
(34:21) Where you can find more from Brian
About Brian Weber
Brian is a former FedRAMP DevOps Engineer for Coralogix. He’s also been a Site Reliability Engineer at Twitter, Pinterest, and Facebook, where he has maintained large installations on-premises, building reliability, security, and developer efficiency. In my spare time, Brian skis, knits, cycles, bakes, and tries to spend as much time outdoors as possible.
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Brian’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-weber-2423b55/Sponsor
The Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com
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On this Screaming in the Cloud Replay, we look back at our conversation with Amy Negrette. Before she joined DigitalOcean Senior Development Advocate, she was a cloud economist at The Duckbill Group. Prior to that, Amy worked as a cloud architect at Trek10, Inc., a cloud software engineer lead at Cloudreach, a software developer at ASRC Research and Technology Solutions, and a software engineer at Yahoo, among other positions. She’s also an organizer of Write/Speak/Code, an organization committed to helping Under Represented Genders sharpen their technical speaking and writing capabilities. Join Corey and Amy as they discuss the pros and cons of remote work, what Duckbill’s organizational structure is like, remote work during the pandemic vs. remote work during the before times, why it’s nice to be able to work whenever you want to work instead of during fixed hours, why the future of travel in the tech industry should change, how Corey and Amy met, what makes cloud economics come natural to Amy, a tool that helps recreate physical events online more effectively than Zoom, and more.
Show Highlights(0:00) Intro
(0:57) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(1:30) Amy’s experience working with The Duckbill Group during the pandemic
(7:20) When Amy was the only cloud economist with a background in software engineering
(12:36) Is it antiquated to go on-site to meet with clients?
(16:23) Amy’s time spent working at NASA
(17:55) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(18:38) What it’s like working IT for NASA
(20:28) Amy’s background prior to cloud consulting
(24:15) Amy’s view on public speaking events coming out of the pandemic
(29:21) Corey’s qualms with re:Invent
(31:51) Where you can find more from Amy
About Amy Arambulo Negrette
With over ten years industry experience, Amy Arambulo Negrette has built web applications for a variety of industries including Yahoo! Fantasy Sports and NASA Ames Research Center. One of her projects modernized two legacy systems impacting the entire research center and won her a Certificate of Excellence from the Ames Contractor Council. Amy believe that strong and consistent communication can produce the best product and overall customer experience, whether it's in gaming, educational outreach, or internal tools. Her long term goal is to lead people and have creative control over my projects.
Links
The Duckbill Group: http://duckbillgroup.com/Amy’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/nerdypawsOriginal Episode
https://www.lastweekinaws.com/podcast/screaming-in-the-cloud/a-conversation-between-cloud-economists-with-amy-arambulo-negrette/
Sponsor
The Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com
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On this Screaming in the Cloud Replay, Corey is joined by Microsoft's current Vice President of Developer Community, Scott Hanselman. They talk about how Scott is selling enthusiasm around free and open source software to empower the next generation of programmers, how technology can help you escape a suboptimal position in life, moving a blog that was hosted on a Windows Server 2008 server to Azure, using TikTok to encourage younger folks to get into coding, why there isn’t a wrong programming language to learn and why you should learn JavaScript, how the rise of SaaS and cloud computing has made Microsoft a “simpler” company, convincing banks to use open source in the 2000s, and more.
Show Highlights(0:00) Intro
(0:29) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(1:13) What Scott did as Microsoft’s Partner Program Manager
(2:05) Scott’s various passions and projects
(4:37) Changes at Microsoft since Corey last kept track of the company
(10:15) Why Corey struggles to get back into the Windows ecosystem
(17:45) The convenience of having everything more accessible and hosted in Azure
(24:36) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(25:19) The importance of the struggle when starting out in tech
(30:55) Microsoft’s cultural transformation
(34:32) Why Scott has turned to social media to reach the next generation of engineers
(39:18) Where you can find more from Scott
About Scott Hanselman
Scott has been a developer for 30 years and has been blogging at https://hanselman.com for 20 years! He works in Open Source on .NET and the Azure Cloud for Microsoft out of his home office in Portland, Oregon. Scott has been podcasting for over 950 episodes of http://hanselminutes.com over 18 years and over 750 episodes of http://www.azurefriday.com. He's written a number of technical books and spoken in person to over one million developers worldwide! He's also on TikTok, which was very likely a huge mistake.
Links
Hanselminutes Podcast: https://www.hanselminutes.com/Personal website: https://hanselman.comOriginal Episode
https://www.lastweekinaws.com/podcast/screaming-in-the-cloud/inspiring-the-next-generation-of-devs-on-tiktok-with-scott-hanselman/
Sponsor
The Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com
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On this Screaming in the Cloud Replay, Corey is joined by James Governor, co-founder of RedMonk. In this throwback, they discuss how RedMonk is different from traditional analyst firms. You’ll also learn how Corey and James met, how James credentialed Corey as a bona fide industry analyst on Twitter, and how anyone can be an analyst in theory. Beyond that, James explains the mindset required to give advice as an analyst, what attracted him to becoming an analyst in the first place, and why RedMonk focuses on the qualitative instead of the quantitative.
Show Highlights
(0:00) Intro
(0:29) The Wiz sponsor read
(1:31) What lead James to become an analyst and founding RedMonk
(4:36) Why James believes developers are the “ new monarchmakers”
(10:06) Recounting the time James credentialed Corey as an analyst on Twitter
(12:24) Who and what are analysts?
(17:44) The woes of rage-driven development
(21:01) The Wiz sponsor read
(21:55) Why Corey thinks James is a model Twitter user and advocate
(25:23) What makes RedMonk’s industry events stick out from everyone else
(35:15) Why James habitually changes his name on Twitter
(36:45) Where you can find more from James
About James Governor
James Governor founded RedMonk in 2002 with Stephen O'Grady. They focus on developers as the real key influencers in tech. Understanding that people choose technology because of gut instincts not facts per se. As an ex-journalist, James has managed teams and news agendas in the weekly publication grind. He has also been IBM and MS watcher since 1995.
Links
RedMonk: https://redmonk.com/James’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/MonkChipsMonktoberfest: https://monktoberfest.com/Monki Gras: https://monkigras.com/Original Episode
https://www.lastweekinaws.com/podcast/screaming-in-the-cloud/analyzing-analysts-with-james-governor/
Sponsor
The Wiz: wiz.io/scream
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On this Screaming in the Cloud Replay, Corey is joined by Emma Bostian, an Engineering Manager at Spotify in Stockholm. Emma is also an author, co-host of the Ladybug Podcast, and has a strong following on social media. She goes into the details on her podcast and the varied nature of her and her co-hosts, she also discusses her book Decoding the Technical Interview Process, in which she breaks down the seemingly esoteric nature of interviewing for these highly technical jobs—but her focus is on the frontend. She and Corey discuss the general banality of these interviews and the direction they can, and should, go in to improve. Emma also loves to teach, to add even more to her portfolio! She goes into the five w’s of her work with LinkedIn Learning and Frontend Masters. Emma also has some excellent insights into her sizable Twitter presence. Tune in for Emma’s variegated offerings!
Show Highlights(0:00) Intro
(0:58) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(1:31) Hosting the Ladybug Podcast and teaching online courses
(3:13) Why Emma wrote Decoding the Technical Interview Process
(7:01) Corey’s qualms with how people interview in tech
(12:03) Why Corey appreciates Emma's guidance on how to interview
(14:50) Bizarre hiring practices that some interviewers use
(18:20) Passion, work/life balance, and seeking out new employees
(19:41) Turning side projects into revenue streams
(22:23) Seeking out sponsors instead of monetizing your audience
(26:06) The Duckbill Group sponsor read
(26:49) Balancing customer service with piracy
(29:35) Letting your online following become your resume
(36:01) Where you can find more from Emma
About Emma Bostian
Emma Bostian is an Engineering Manager at Spotify in Stockholm. She is also a co-host of the Ladybug Podcast, author of Decoding The Technical Interview Process, and an instructor at LinkedIn Learning and Frontend Masters.
Links
Ladybug Podcast: https://www.ladybug.devLinkedIn Learning: https://www.linkedin.com/learning/instructors/emma-bostianFrontend Masters: https://frontendmasters.com/teachers/emma-bostian/Decoding the Technical Interview Process: https://technicalinterviews.devEmma's Twitter: https://twitter.com/emmabostianOriginal Episode
https://www.lastweekinaws.com/podcast/screaming-in-the-cloud/changing-the-way-we-interview-with-emma-bostian/
Sponsor
The Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com
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Corey Quinn welcomes Adam Zimman back to Screaming in the Cloud for a sponsored episode featuring Heroku by Salesforce. As Head of Product Marketing, Adam discusses after years of stagnation following its Salesforce acquisition. Recent investments and a dedicated team signal a renewed focus on developer experience. The duo explores Heroku's impact on modern app development, its role in popularizing the 12-Factor App model, and the decision to retire its free tier. Adam highlights key updates, including Kubernetes replatforming, .NET support, and AI tools for managed inference and agents. He also teases his upcoming book, Progressive Delivery, set for release next year.
Show Highlights
(0:00) Intro
(1:01) Heroku sponsor read
(1:39) How Heroku became resurgent
(5:46) Heroku’s legacy
(9:53) Adam’s thoughts on people’s response to the free tier going away
(10:55) Heroku’s target customer(s)
(13:51) Heroku sponsor read
(14:19) How Heroku saves organizations money and developed over time
(20:08) Heroku’s re:Invent announcements
(24:53) How modern-day developers have reacted to Heroku’s resurgence
(27:47) Where people can learn more about Heroku
About Adam Zimman
Adam Zimman is Technologist and Author currently serving as the Head of Product Marketing at Heroku by SalesForce. Previously, he was a Venture Capital Advisor providing guidance on leadership, platform architecture, product marketing, and GTM strategy. He has over 20 years of experience working in a variety of roles from software engineering to technical sales. He has worked in both enterprise and consumer companies such as VMware, EMC, GitHub, and LaunchDarkly.
Adam is driven by a passion for inclusive leadership and solving problems with technology. He is a co-author of Progressive Delivery: Build the right thing, for the right people, at the right time. His perspective has been shaped by a degree (AB) from Bowdoin College with a dual-focus in Physics and Visual Art, an ongoing adventure as a husband and father, and a childhood career as a fire juggler.
Links
Heroku’s website: https://www.heroku.com/Adam’s Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/azimman.bsky.socialAdam’s Mastodon: https://hachyderm.io/@azAdam’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamzimman/Personal site: https://progressivedelivery.com/Sponsor
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On this Screaming in the Cloud Replay, Corey is joined by accomplished tech journalist Daisuke Wakabayashi to explore the world of tech reporting. The pair discuss Dai’s 2019 article on AWS while touching on a number of topics, including how AWS evolved from a platform everyone built on top of to one that runs everything built on top of it. Both explore why it’s incredibly difficult to capture all the nuances of the world of open source in a single article, the collaborative nature of writing the news, and how a journalist can tell when they’ve written a story that doesn’t have mistakes. Dai and Corey also unpack why Amazon as a trillion-dollar company should expect more scrutiny, what it was like to try to get people to go on the record talking about AWS, and more.
Show Highlights
(0:00) Intro
(0:29) The Duckbill Group Sponsor read
(1:02) A brief look at Dai’s background as a journalist
(2:00) Dai’s article covering AWS’s business practices
(3:47) Unpacking the discussion around Dai’s article
(6:09) The careful thought and nuance that goes into writing an investigative news article
(8:59) How AWS insiders are responding to Dai’s article
(11:50) The importance of disclosures in journalism
(14:32) AWS’s blog post responding to Dai
(18:41) The Duckbill Group Sponsor read
(19:24) How criticism affects relationships with AWS
(23:36) Corey’s reaction to getting mentioned in Dai’s article and the NYT style guide
(27:18) Why it’s still important for journalists to speak truth to power
(32:22) Where you can find more from Dai
About Dai Wakabayashi
Daisuke Wakabayashi was born in Singapore, lived in Tokyo, and spent the bulk of his childhood in New Jersey. He graduated from the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Mass. Daisuke’s journalism career started at Reuters in Tokyo. He also worked for Reuters in Boston and Seattle, covering everything from industrial conglomerates to natural disasters. He returned to Japan with The Wall Street Journal covering technology and then returned to the United States to cover Apple. Wakabayashi joined The New York Times in 2016 and covered Google from the paper’s San Francisco bureau. In 2022, he moved with my family to Seoul to take his current job as an Asia business correspondent for The Times.Links
Dai’s 2019 article “Prime Leverage: How Amazon Wields Power in the Technology World”: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/15/technology/amazon-aws-cloud-competition.htmlTwitter: @daiwakaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwakabayashi/Personal site: https://www.nytimes.com/by/daisuke-wakabayashiCompany site: nytimes.comOriginal Episode
https://www.lastweekinaws.com/podcast/screaming-in-the-cloud/speaking-truth-to-power-in-tech-with-dai-wakabayashi/
Sponsor
The Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com
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On this Screaming in the Cloud Replay, Corey is joined by Rich Burroughs, a former Staff Developer Advocate at Loft Labs. Rich is a great resource for all things Kubernetes, and he even hosts his own podcast (link in the description below) where he interviews people in the community. Rich and Corey discuss learning to work well with ADHD, which he has launched into the Twitter-verse for the sake of advocacy. Rich offers his perspective on how to do so, and to do it well. Rich talks about working at large companies, versus small and the various responsibilities of working with the latter. Tune in for Rich’s take!
Show Highlights
(0:00) Intro
(0:50) The Duckbill Group Sponsor read
(1:23) Loft Labs’s work with Kubernetes
(3:15) Doing developer advocacy with Kubernetes
(7:01) Is developer advocacy repetitive for Rich?
(12:06) Going in-depth about Loft Labs
(16:40) The Duckbill Group Sponsor read
(17:22) The blessing (and curse) of being great at your job
(24:38) Learning to live with ADHD
(32:15) Where you can find more from Rich
About Rich Burroughs
Rich Burroughs is a tech professional focused on improving workflows for developers and platform engineers using Kubernetes. He's the creator and host of the Kube Cuddle podcast where he interviews members of the Kubernetes community. He is one of the founding organizers of DevOpsDays Portland, and he's helped organize other community events. Rich has a strong interest in how working in tech impacts mental health. He has ADHD and has documented his journey on Twitter since being diagnosed.
Kube Cuddle Podcast: https://kubecuddle.transistor.fmLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richburroughs/Twitter: https://twitter.com/richburroughsPolywork: https://www.polywork.com/richburroughs
LinksOriginal Episode
https://www.lastweekinaws.com/podcast/screaming-in-the-cloud/helping-avoid-the-kubernetes-hiccups-with-rich-burroughs/
Sponsor
The Duckbill Group: duckbillgroup.com
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