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  • Where Heat Pump Design Gets Fun – Manual S and Beyond with Eric Fitz

    Where Heat Pump Design Gets Fun – Manual S and Beyond with Eric Fitz

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    Amply is hiring! We’re looking for an awesome Senior iOS Engineer to join our small but mighty team. If you are anyone you know is interested, check out our job posting to learn more and apply. https://info.amply.energy/sr-mobile-engineer-may-2025

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    Most contractors know about Manual S. Few really use it.

    In this episode of The Heat Pump Podcast, Amply co-founder Eric Fitz walks through Manual S in plain English—breaking down what matters, what doesn’t, and how to design heat pump systems that actually deliver comfort all year long.

    Using his own home in Portland, Maine as a case study, Eric explains how to interpret extended performance tables, avoid oversizing, and balance real-world tradeoffs like auxiliary heat and low load cycling. The episode also introduces Amply’s free Manual S spreadsheet tool—designed to take the math and guesswork out of equipment selection.

    This is a must-listen for anyone who wants to size systems with confidence, especially in cold climates where comfort and efficiency are harder to get right.

    Key Learnings:

    Manual S made simple: Four ratios are all you need Eric walks through them step by step.Low-load cycling is real: Why oversizing hurts comfort and efficiency.Forget label tonnage: It’s all about the actual performance curves.Cold-climate trade-offs: How to balance auxiliary heat and seasonal loads.New free tool: Amply’s spreadsheet automates the math – grab it here.Local expertise wins: Knowing your regional climate and electricity rates gives you a major edge.

    Timestamps

    [00:00] - Intro & Free Manual S spreadsheet

    [01:35] - Meet Eric Fitz & today’s goal: demystify Manual S

    [03:48] - What makes heat pump design so hard (and fun!)

    [07:00] - Why your Manual J must be aggressive

    [10:15] - Comfort first, efficiency second

    [20:00] - The 4 Manual S ratios (and how to use them)

    [28:15] - Getting the right performance data

    [36:00] - Real-world trade-offs: auxiliary heat, cycling, efficiency

    [44:30] - Kilowatt hours vs. energy costs: What matters to homeowners

    [52:00] - Wrap-up: tools, tradeoffs, and where to go from here

    Resources for Smarter Heat Pump Design:

    NEEP database: https://ashp.neep.org/#!/Amply Manual S tool: https://info.amply.energy/heat-pump-manual-s-free-toolACCA Manual S: https://www.acca.org/standards/technical-manuals/manual-s

    Follow the Hosts:

    Ed Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716Eric Fitz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/Amply Energy Website: https://www.amply.energy/Amply Energy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergyAmply Energy Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergyAmply Energy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/
  • The Financial Risks of Manual Rebate Workflows (and How to Fix Them) – A Conversation with Samir Pendse

    The Financial Risks of Manual Rebate Workflows (and How to Fix Them) – A Conversation with Samir Pendse

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    Amply is hiring! We’re looking for an awesome Senior iOS Engineer to join our small but mighty team. If you are anyone you know is interested, check out our job posting to learn more and apply. https://info.amply.energy/sr-mobile-engineer-may-2025

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    In this episode of The Heat Pump Podcast, Amply co-founders Ed Smith and Eric Fitz sit down with Samir Pendse, CEO and co-founder of Coral, an innovative startup simplifying the notoriously complex world of heat pump rebates. With an extensive background in fintech and small-business lending, Samir explains how Coral transforms cumbersome rebate processes into instant savings at the kitchen table, boosting contractor sales and customer satisfaction.

    Why This Matters

    Rebates are a critical part of the heat pump sales process in many states. Yet, contractors regularly face significant financial risks, paperwork headaches, and unpredictable cash flow when manually managing rebates. Coral tackles these problems head-on, ensuring contractors and homeowners alike benefit immediately without the usual stress or uncertainty.

    Key Learnings:

    -Turbo Tax for Heat Pump Rebates: Coral uses software to provide a simple, 60-second app experience to quickly and accurately calculate and guarantee rebate amounts right in the home.

    -Instant rebates boost sales: Contractors using Coral see up to 15% higher conversion rates.

    -Stable state rebates: Utility and state-driven rebates remain robust despite federal IRA program delays.

    -Financing is critical: Low-cost loans dramatically increase heat pump affordability for the average homeowner.

    -Quality and simplicity: Smart policy design and streamlined technology ensure both accessibility and high-quality installations.

    -Streamline with software: Software tools like Coral (and Amply) simplify and accelerate rebate processes and heat pump sizing.

    Timestamps

    [00:00] - Introduction

    [01:21] - Meet Samir Pendse & Coral’s mission

    [04:01] - Business model & Value to contractors

    [05:16] - Origin story & pivot from software to financing

    [09:39] - Real-life rebate pain points Coral is solving

    [15:14] - Financing the rebates & making contractors whole

    [18:48] - Incentives & the Inflation Reduction Act

    [27:19] - Quality assurance & software-enabled simplicity

    [36:25] - Final thoughts & Resources for heat pump entrepreneurs

    Connect with Samir Pendse:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samirpendse/

    Website https://www.startcoral.com/

    Email: [email protected]

    Company’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/startcoral/

    Follow the Hosts:

    Ed Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716

    Eric Fitz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/

    Amply Energy Website: https://www.amply.energy/

    Amply Energy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergy

    Amply Energy Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergy

    Amply Energy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/

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  • The Conference for Contractors Who Want to Get Heat Pumps Right – with Brent Davidson

    The Conference for Contractors Who Want to Get Heat Pumps Right – with Brent Davidson

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    Looking to stand out in the competitive Heat Pump market? Learn from the best with our FREE e-book on in-home heat pump sales. Get it today: https://bit.ly/Top_10Heat_pumpSalestips

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    In this episode of The Heat Pump Podcast, Amply co-founder Ed Smith talks with Brent Davidson, founder of the US Heat Pump Summit. Brent’s journey from building climate-tech software to starting one of the most compelling HVAC events in the country is a case study in how community, business strategy, and technical know-how can come together to drive real change.

    And the Summit? It’s not just another trade show. It’s two days of contractor-focused training, business insights, and peer-to-peer learning—all built around the future of HVAC.

    What you’ll learn

    Why Brent Davidson started a contractor-first summit—and how it grewHow heat pump conversations differ from solar, and why that mattersWhat makes a good installation—and why business structure is keyHow community and peer learning can drive quality at scaleWhat to expect from the next Summit in Worcester, MA

    What Makes the US Heat Pump Summit Different?

    Brent’s focus is simple: put the right people in the room and spark the right conversation. That means:

    Business and technical content side by sideContractor-first agenda—not just utility program talkPeer-driven roundtables, not just sales boothsNational trends + regional relevance (hello, cold climate heat pumps)

    It’s the only event where the people in the room actually want to talk about Manual J, coefficients of performance, electric strip backups vs. supplemental dehumidification, and customer acquisition in the same breath.

    Why This Matters

    Heat pumps are gaining ground—but success doesn’t come from equipment alone. It comes from design, training, and business models that reward quality. That’s what the Summit is about.

    And Brent? He’s not trying to run yet another conference. He’s trying to help build an industry.

    Timestamps

    [00:00] - Introduction

    [03:13] - Brent’s background and his career.

    [05:11] - Importance of community and storytelling in climate work

    [08:01] - Lessons from past events and expectations for the Worcester event.

    [14:51] - What does a good heat pump installation look like?

    [21:06] - Why were heat pumps chosen as the starting point for the US Electric Home Summit?

    [23:26] - Heat pumps prioritized for energy savings, design complexity, and contractor demand.

    [27:48] - Recommended resources for learning about building science, electrification, heat pumps, and HVAC

    Connect with Brent Davidson:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brentdavidson/ Website: https://www.usheatpumpsummit.com/ Company’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/us-heat-pump-summit/

    Follow the Hosts:

    Ed Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716Eric Fitz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/Amply Energy Website: https://www.amply.energy/Amply Energy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergyAmply Energy Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergyAmply Energy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/
  • Avoid the HVAC Race to the Bottom – With Building Science, Heat Pumps, and Brynn Cooksey

    Avoid the HVAC Race to the Bottom – With Building Science, Heat Pumps, and Brynn Cooksey

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    Looking to stand out in the competitive Heat Pump market? Learn from the best with our FREE e-book on in-home heat pump sales. Get it today:

    https://bit.ly/Top_10Heat_pumpSalestips

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    In this episode of The Heat Pump Podcast, we sit down with Brynn Cooksey—founder of Air Doctors Heating and Cooling, HVAC U, and a longtime leader in whole-home performance. Brynn’s journey takes us from his early days as a tech working alongside his father to running one of the most forward-thinking HVAC businesses in the Midwest.

    His secret? Don’t play the price game. Play the diagnostics game.

    The Power of Building Science

    Brynn explains how embracing building science helped his company escape the “race to the bottom”—the box-swapping, lowest-bid dynamic that plagues much of the industry. Instead, his team leads with comfort, efficiency, and trust—delivering measurable, science-backed improvements that customers can see and feel.

    At the heart of his process is in-home diagnostics. Think thermal imaging, pressure tests, and duct sizing analysis—not just glossy proposals. Brynn’s philosophy is simple: let the customer “buy” instead of getting sold. Show them what’s wrong, explain why it matters, and guide them to the best solution.

    Lessons from the Field

    Brynn also shares insights from a heat pump pilot program in Michigan, built in collaboration with Pearl Edison. From dual fuel designs to system sizing and load calculations, he offers a refreshingly honest look at what it takes to electrify the right way.

    Key takeaways include:

    🔬 Diagnostics build trust. Homeowners can’t “unsee” thermal leaks or undersized ducts.🧠 Customer education wins. Teaching homeowners what’s really going on in their homes leads to higher-quality installs—and less price shopping.🌡️ Dual fuel isn’t a compromise. In cold climates, it’s often the smartest step toward electrification.🚫 Bad installs hurt everyone. Oversized or poorly designed systems can lead to $1,500+ utility bills and shattered trust.

    Why It Matters

    Brynn isn’t just running a profitable business—he’s helping chart a path for HVAC’s future. As incentives expand and heat pump adoption accelerates, we need more contractors who know how to design and install systems that actually deliver.

    Timestamps:

    [02:26] - Brynn’s background: Air Doctors, HVAC U, and Pearl Edison

    [05:26] - Using building science to escape the race to the bottom

    [09:45] - What Pearl Edison does and how it benefits contractors

    [13:43] - Why electrification isn’t always the first step

    [16:51] - Dual fuel systems as a practical solution in cold climates

    [19:14] - The danger of “Heat Pump Cowboys” and bad installs

    [23:56] - Making heat pumps profitable for quality contractors

    [35:57] - Final thoughts on solving the trust gap and winning customers

    Connect with Brynn Cooksey:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theairdoctor/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/surgeonofcomfort/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theairdoctor313/ Article: What we learned running a Home Energy Rebate pilot in Detroit: https://pearledison.substack.com/p/home-energy-rebates Website: https://www.airdoctorshvacservice.com/ Company’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/airdoctorshvac Company’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/airdoctorshvac/ Company’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/airdoctorshvac/# Company’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/airdoctorshvacservice/

    Follow the Hosts:

    Ed Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716Eric Fitz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/Amply Energy Website: https://www.amply.energy/Amply Energy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergyAmply Energy Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergyAmply Energy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy
  • Creating the First New Heat Pump OEM in 60 Years with Paul Lambert

    Creating the First New Heat Pump OEM in 60 Years with Paul Lambert

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    Looking to stand out in the competitive Heat Pump market? Learn from the best with our FREE e-book on in-home heat pump sales. Get it today: https://bit.ly/Top_10Heat_pumpSalestips

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    In this episode, Ed Smith and Eric Fitz, Co-Founders of Amply Energy, speak with Paul Lambert, founder and CEO of Quilt. Paul shares how Quilt saw a massive opportunity to innovate in HVAC by reimagining heat pumps from top to bottom and building with an integrated “full stack” approach.

    Paul discusses the inspiration behind Quilt, how his background in Silicon Valley shaped the company’s approach, and why vertical integration is key to optimizing comfort and efficiency for homeowners. He also explains why the shift from a direct-to-consumer model to working with contractors is the next crucial step in scaling Quilt’s impact.

    Whether you're an HVAC professional, a heat pump enthusiast, an entrepreneur or someone interested in the energy transition, this episode is packed with insights on product innovation, business strategy, and the future of HVAC hardware, software, and the overall heat pump experience.

    Expect to Learn:

    How Quilt designed the most efficient two zone ductless heat pump on the market.The role of aesthetics in HVAC and why design matters to consumers.Why Quilt chose a vertical integration approach similar to Apple.The lessons learned from launching a startup in the HVAC industry.Why heat pumps are like the electric vehicles of HVAC – they just work better. How Quilt is partnering with contractors to expand across the U.S.The unique software-driven optimizations that improve efficiency and comfort.Why Paul believes the energy transition is the defining opportunity of our time.How interested contractors can become Quilt dealers..

    In Today’s Episode:

    [00:00] - Introduction

    [01:12] - The Origins of Quilt & Paul Lambert’s Background

    [03:21] - Why Quilt Chose to Develop a Ductless Heat Pump

    [06:02] - Why Paul founded Quilt

    [14:18] - The Role of Aesthetics in Consumer Adoption

    [21:04] - Scaling Quilt’s Distribution and Training New Partners

    [29:33] - Shift from direct consumer to Business-to-Business.

    [35:12] - Expanding Quilt geographically with the help of partners

    [40:31] - Closing Thoughts & Final Advice

    Connect with Paul Lambert:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulrolandlambert/ Website: https://www.Quilt.com Twitter: https://x.com/prlambert?lang=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/paulitex/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paulrlambert/ Company’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/Quilthome/ Company’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/meetQuilt/

    Follow the Hosts:

    Ed Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716Eric Fitz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/Amply Energy Website: https://www.amply.energy/Amply Energy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergyAmply Energy Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergyAmply Energy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/
  • Corbett Lunsford on Arming Homeowners with the Knowledge they need to get the HVAC systems they deserve

    Corbett Lunsford on Arming Homeowners with the Knowledge they need to get the HVAC systems they deserve

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    Looking to stand out in the competitive Heat Pump market? Learn from the best with our FREE e-book on in-home heat pump sales. Get it today: https://bit.ly/Top_10Heat_pumpSalestips

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    In this episode of the Heat Pump Podcast, hosts Ed Smith and Eric Fitz welcome Corbett Lunsford, a building science expert and host of the PBS show Home Diagnosis, to discuss the importance of scientific approaches in HVAC, the power of testing, and how to navigate the industry with confidence.

    Corbett shares insights on tools like blower doors, RED Calc and his own psychrometric wheel. With years of experience in building science, he brings a fresh perspective on how proper testing and measurement can significantly improve HVAC performance and efficiency.

    This episode is packed with valuable information for HVAC professionals, contractors, and anyone passionate about building science. Tune in to gain expert knowledge that can help you refine your approach, deliver more comfort to homeowners, and better explain your solution to your customers.

    Expect to Learn:

    Airtight homes are essential for comfort, efficiency, and health – don’t fear tight construction, just ventilate properly.Homeowners are increasingly well-informed, and HVAC pros should be ready to engage with curious, educated clients.Building performance starts with the enclosure; HVAC systems must be designed with the current and future envelope in mind.Testing tools like blower doors are critical to uncover hidden issues and verify system performance.Proper HVAC installations begin with proper design. “The box” is nothing without accurate Manuals J, S, D, and understanding room behavior. Fast rebate programs without proper testing risk widespread system failures.

    Episode Breakdown:

    [00:00] - Introduction of the episode.

    [01:17] - Corbett’s Background

    [04:34] - The Importance of Testing in HVAC

    [06:52] - Essential Tools for Building Performance Analysis

    [13:44] - Common Industry Misconceptions

    [17:07] - The building envelope comes first; HVAC must work with it, not around it.

    [22:57] - Blower door and pressure tests reveal issues you can’t see.

    [32:13] - Great installations begin with smart HVAC design.

    [46:37] - The Role of Consumer Education

    [50:03] - Closing Remarks and Where to Connect with Corbett

    [50:59] - Free Resources and Tools for HVAC Professionals

    Connect with Corbett Lunsford:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/corbettlunsford/ Website: https://buildingperformanceworkshop.com/ Website: https://www.pbs.org/show/home-diagnosis/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GraceandCorbettLunsford/ Company’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/homeperformance/ Email: [email protected]

    Follow the Hosts:

    Ed Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716Eric Fitz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/Amply Energy Website: https://www.amply.energy/Amply Energy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergyAmply Energy Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergyAmply Energy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/
  • The bumps, bruises, and lessons learned of scaling a home performance business to $150M with Chris Nichols

    The bumps, bruises, and lessons learned of scaling a home performance business to $150M with Chris Nichols

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    Looking to stand out in the competitive Heat Pump market? Learn from the best with our FREE e-book on in-home heat pump sales. Get it today: https://bit.ly/Top_10Heat_pumpSalestips

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    In this episode, Ed Smith and Eric Fitz, co-founders of Amply Energy, speak with Christopher Nichols, COO of HomeWorks Energy, about the challenges and strategies behind scaling a home performance business. Chris shares how HomeWorks Energy grew from 10 people to a 750 person company generating $150 million in revenue all while maintaining a strong focus on energy efficiency, heat pumps, and customer service.

    Chris explains how to build a talent machine in the HVAC industry, the importance of training, and the role of technology in scaling operations while maintaining quality. He also shares key lessons from his own career journey, including the mistakes and successes that shaped HomeWorks into the thriving company it is today.

    Whether you're in heat pumps, weatherization, home energy efficiency, or just looking to scale a service-based business, this episode is full of valuable tips on growth, leadership, and operational efficiency.

    Expect to Learn

    How HomeWorks' focus on "energy efficiency simplified" helped drive its rapid expansion.How critical it was to “crack the code on marketing” over and over as the company grewThe critical role of training in the HVAC industry and why HomeWorks created its own hands-on training program.How HomeWorks grew to 750+ employees and $150M revenue without outside investment.Lessons learned from building an HVAC team and why expertise matters.How HomeWorks leverages software to streamline solution-design, quoting, scoping, and quality control.Why HomeWorks still gets 30% of its leads from direct mail in a digital-first world.When to partner vs. bring services in-house and why sometimes you have to do it yourself.Why factoring in callback costs upfront can improve service quality and team morale.The importance of respecting HVAC technicians' expertise when scaling a business.Why you can’t be everything to everyone and should focus on mastering a few key services.

    In Today’s Episode:

    [01:13] - Introduction

    [03:22] - Understanding HomeWorks & Its Mission

    [05:48] - Chris Nichols’ Career Path & Early Influences

    [09:13] - Scaling HomeWorks & Building a Talent Machine

    [14:07] - Adding HVAC Services & Overcoming Initial Challenges

    [10:54] - The Framework for Scaling Multiple Service Lines

    [22:11] - Cracking the Code on Marketing & Lead Generation

    [26:33] - Leveraging Technology to Scale Skilled Labor

    [31:42] - Streamlining Sales & Comfort Advisor Roles

    [32:42] - Key Advice for HVAC Entrepreneurs

    [36:49] - The Future of HomeWorks & Industry Expansion

    [40:53] - Closing Thoughts & Final Advice

    Connect with Christopher Nichols:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-nichols-b3819bab/ Website: https://www.homeworksenergy.com/

    Follow the Hosts:

    Ed Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716Eric Fitz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/Amply Energy Website: https://www.amply.energy/Amply Energy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergyAmply Energy Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergyAmply Energy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy
  • The Practice and Philosophy of Building Science – A Discussion with Alex Meaney and Nate Adams

    The Practice and Philosophy of Building Science – A Discussion with Alex Meaney and Nate Adams

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    Looking to stand out in the competitive Heat Pump market? Learn from the best with our FREE e-book and transform your approach to in-home heat pump sales. Get it today: https://bit.ly/Top_10Heat_pumpSalestips

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    In this episode of The Heat Pump Podcast, hosts Ed Smith and Eric Fitz sit down with HVAC experts Alex Meaney and Nate Adams to discuss the building science, heat pump sizing, HVAC design, dehumidification, rebates, manufacturer data, the challenges of industry regulations, and a whole lot more.

    Alex and Nate are two of the most experienced and brilliant folks in building performance, home retrofits, and HVAC system design. Alex and Nate come at things from different perspectives, and what unfolds is a fascinating discussion at the bleeding edge of building science., Alex and Nate share valuable knowledge on load calculations, heat pump rebates, efficiency metrics, and the real world challenges of transitioning to all electric homes. They also discuss common mistakes in heat pump installations, the role of data in HVAC advancements, and the limitations of current efficiency standards. Whether you're an HVAC contractor, energy consultant, or homeowner interested in heat pumps, this episode provides thought provoking discussions and actionable insights for navigating the evolving world of heating and cooling.

    Key Takeaways:

    Why proper heat pump sizing is crucial and how incorrect sizing impacts heating, cooling, and dehumidification.The challenges of balancing latent (moisture removal), sensible (cooling), and heating loads in heat pump systems.How outdated efficiency metrics like SEER (Seasonal Energy Efficiency Ratio) fail to account for real-world performance.How rebates can lead to perverse incentives and outcomes. Why the lack of manufacturer performance data is a real risk to homeowner comfort.Why over-reliance on computer models can lead to poor HVAC design decisions and how field data should drive future improvements.Exciting trends on the horizon for HVAC design.

    Episode Breakdown with Timestamps:

    [02:34] - Introduction and Guest Overview

    [03:09] - Guest Introductions and Backgrounds

    [04:20] - Areas of Agreement in HVAC Design

    [06:55] - Communicating Equipment and Dehumidification

    [10:19] - Problems with Efficiency Ratings (SEER, EER, and Latent Performance)

    [18:18] - Temperature vs. Humidity for Comfort

    [22:59] - The Debate: Sizing for Heating vs. Cooling

    [30:18] - The Impact of Building Infiltration on HVAC Performance

    [42:22] - The Future of HVAC System Design

    [51:33] - Closing Thoughts and Advice for HVAC Contractors

    Connect with the Guests:

    Alex Meaney

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-meaney-62a6a248/

    Website: https://www.meanhvac.com/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/alex.meaney.35

    Nate Adams

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natethehousewhisperer/

    Website: https://www.natethehousewhisperer.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/natethehousewhisperer/?igsh=bXNyeTAwNGkybWk4#

    Follow the Hosts

    Ed Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716

    Eric Fitz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/

    Amply Energy Website: https://www.amply.energy/

    Amply Energy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergy

    Amply Energy Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergy

    Amply Energy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/

  • The Beauty of Dual Fuel Solutions with Mike Gundersen

    The Beauty of Dual Fuel Solutions with Mike Gundersen

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    Looking to stand out in the competitive Heat Pump market? Learn from the best with our FREE e-book and transform your approach to in-home heat pump sales. Get it today: https://bit.ly/Top_10Heat_pumpSalestips

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    In this episode of the Heat Pump Podcast, hosts Ed Smith and Eric Fitz, co-founders of Amply Energy, sit down with Mike Gundersen, owner of Compass Heating and Air Conditioning and HVAC dual fuel expert from the Chicago area. Mike shares his journey from the military to leading a successful HVAC business, focusing on doing things the right way.

    With extensive experience in the field, including a significant focus on heat pump technology and dual fuel systems, Mike shares his expertise on why heat pumps win on comfort. He discusses the technical aspects of heat pump installations, the benefits of dual-fuel systems, and how he has built his business gradually, focusing on doing the basics right consistently.

    Mike’s expertise is not only in the installation but also in the practical application of heat pump systems in various environments, emphasizing how proper system design can lead to significant improvements in comfort and customer satisfaction – in addition to efficiency savings.

    Expect to Learn

    Mike’s journey to building an HVAC company that does things the right way consistentlyThe advantages of dual-fuel systems over traditional HVAC setups.Why no one should be installing traditional AC units anymoreExpert advice on the installation and maintenance of heat pump systems.Practical advice for entrepreneurs looking to enter the HVAC industry.

    Episode Breakdown with Timestamps

    [00:32] - Introduction to Mike Gundersen and the Heat Pump Podcast

    [01:12] - Mike Gundersen's journey from military service to HVAC expertise

    [05:16] - The business model and driving principles of Mike's HVAC company

    [15:45] - Exploring dual fuel system advantages

    [26:01] - Technological advancements in heat pump systems

    [39:30] - Mike discusses resources for continuous learning and improvement in the HVAC field

    [42:47] -Closing thoughts

    Connect with our guest Mike Gundersen:

    👉 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-gundersen-27a10411b/

    👉 Compass Heating and Air Conditioning Website: https://compassheatingandair.com/

    Follow the Hosts

    👉 Ed Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716

    👉 Eric Fitz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/

    👉 Amply Energy Website: https://www.amply.energy/

    👉 Amply Energy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergy

    👉 Amply Energy Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergy

    👉 Amply Energy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/

  • The Nuances of Heat Pump System Design with Eric Kaiser

    The Nuances of Heat Pump System Design with Eric Kaiser

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    In this episode the hosts Ed Smith and Eric Fitz from Amply Energy sit down with Eric Kaiser (aka ELK), a leading voice and trainer in the HVAC space. Known for his dynamic and insightful presentations at virtually any and all HVAC events, ELK shares his journey from growing up around creative energy solutions to becoming the Industry Engagement Manager at TruTech Tools. With a passion for teaching and decades of hands-on experience in HVAC and building performance, Eric offers valuable insight into heat pump performance, system design, and optimizing home comfort.

    Whether you're an owner, Comfort Advisor, tech, or even homeowner, this episode has deep knowledge about complexities of heat pump technology, debunking myths, and providing actionable strategies for better performance and comfort.

    📚 Expect to Learn

    An overview of ACCA’s residential system design process (Manuals RS, J, Zr, T, S, D and B)The nuances of heat pump performance and why load calculations are never perfect.How to optimize HVAC systems for comfort, efficiency, and cost-effectiveness.The importance of not just equipment sizing and selection, but also air distribution in achieving home comfort.How to handle homeowner expectations and the role of rebates in HVAC decisions.Practical strategies for managing heat pump defrost cycles and avoiding common installation pitfalls.

    ⏳ Episode Breakdown with Timestamps ⏳

    [00:00:42] - Introduction to the Heat Pump Podcast & Eric Kaiser ("Elk")

    [00:01:46] - Eric's Backstory

    [00:05:04] - Transitioning to Training and Industry Engagement

    [00:08:01] - The Importance of Homeowner Expectations in HVAC Design

    [00:17:33] - Designing for Comfort vs. Energy Efficiency

    [00:26:19] - Manual S Explained

    [00:32:36] - Heat Pump Performance in Cold Climates & Dehumidification Strategies

    [00:44:20] - Managing Defrost Cycles and Electric Heat Backup Efficiently

    [01:01:23] - Eric's Recommended Resources & Final Thoughts

    [01:02:30] - Conclusion

    Connect with the Guest Eric Kaiser on

    👉 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-kaiser-323a1563/

    👉 TruTech Technology website: https://trutechtools.com/

    Follow the Hosts

    👉 Ed Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716

    👉 Eric Fitz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/

    👉 Amply Energy Website: https://www.amply.energy/

    👉 Amply Energy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergy

    👉 Amply Energy Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergy

    👉 Amply Energy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/

  • Using Performance Data to Maximize Efficiency and Electrify Homes with John Semmelhack

    Using Performance Data to Maximize Efficiency and Electrify Homes with John Semmelhack

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    In this episode of the Heat Pump Podcast, co-hosts Ed Smith and Eric Fitz dive into the fascinating world of low-load homes and home electrification with John Semmelhack, a home performance expert and co-owner of The Comfort Squad. They explore the evolving landscape of energy-efficient HVAC systems and discuss practical solutions for retrofitting homes and embracing electrification.

    John shares his extensive experience in HVAC system design, energy-efficient building practices, and transitioning homes to full electrification. Whether you're a homeowner, contractor, or energy fan, this episode provides valuable insight into the future of efficient homes, with a particular focus on heat pump systems.

    John Semmelhack is a seasoned professional in home performance and HVAC system design. As the co-owner of The Comfort Squad, a leading contracting firm specializing in energy-efficient solutions in Virginia, John has worked extensively on retrofitting homes, optimizing HVAC systems, and promoting electrification. With over 15 years of experience, his expertise ranges from passive house consulting to designing state-of-the-art heat pump systems. A champion of clean energy, John is passionate about sustainable living and empowering homeowners to embrace efficient, all-electric solutions.

    📚 Expect to Learn

    The basics of heat pumps and why they are more than viable for all climates in the U.S.Challenges and solutions in retrofitting existing homes with heat pump technologyHow to right-size HVAC systems for maximum efficiency and comfortHow to slow down a sales process, collect actual data on the home’s loads, and become a “race of one” with a customerWhy “sizing it tight” and “designing by the book” is not as scary at is it seems once you start collecting actual performance data on HVAC systemsWhy heat pumps are easier and cheaper than most thinkInsight into exciting emerging technologies like air-to-water heat pumps and networked geothermal systems.

    ⏳ Episode Breakdown with Timestamps ⏳

    [00:01:03] - Welcome and Guest Introduction

    [00:11:09] - The Path to Electrification

    [00:16:09] - Heat Pump Technology: Ducted vs. Ductless Systems

    [00:22:58] - Retrofitting Existing Homes

    [00:27:40] - John’s Sales Process and Customer Experience

    [00:40:07] - Heat Pumps Are Easy and Affordable

    [00:49:25] - Cutting-Edge HVAC Technologies

    [00:54:05] - Closing Thoughts

    Connect with the Guest

    👉 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-semmelhack-013b4711/

    👉Website: https://www.comfortsquad.us/

    Follow the Hosts

    👉 Ed Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716

    👉 Eric Fitz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/

    👉 Amply Energy Website: https://www.amply.energy/

    👉 Amply Energy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergy

    👉 Amply Energy Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergy

    👉 Amply Energy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/

  • Don’t confuse with jargon. Understand through questions. Design and sales advice with Silas Hoeppner

    Don’t confuse with jargon. Understand through questions. Design and sales advice with Silas Hoeppner

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    In this episode of The Heat Pump Podcast, co-hosts Ed Smith and Eric Fitz welcome Silas Hoeppner, a building performance expert and resident “Air Space Archaeologist” at Modern Heating and Air Conditioning. Silas shares his journey from working in his family’s insulation business in Iowa to becoming a leading HVAC consultant. He delves into the importance of airflow, designing efficient heat pump systems, and how connecting emotionally with clients and asking question after question builds trust and enhances the customer experience.

    The discussion emphasizes actionable strategies for simplifying technical sales, improving system performance, and overcoming myths about heat pumps. Silas brings a wealth of field-tested insights to inspire HVAC professionals to elevate their craft.

    📚 Expect to Learn

    ⚫ Why airflow is the foundation of high-performing heat pump systems.

    ⚫ How smaller, well-designed heat pumps outperform oversized systems in modern homes.

    ⚫ The power of asking questions to uncover customer pain points and build trust.

    ⚫ Practical tips for simplifying complex HVAC concepts for homeowners.

    ⚫ Strategies for addressing heat pump misconceptions, especially in cold climates.

    ⏳ Episode Breakdown with Timestamps ⏳

    [00:00:52] - Introduction

    [00:01:50] - Silas’ Journey

    [00:06:05] - Early Lessons in Comfort and Airflow

    [00:10:23] - Diagnosing Comfort Issues

    [00:24:54] - Don’t Confuse with Jargon. Understand through Questions.

    [00:42:06] - Airflow: The Foundation of HVAC Systems

    [00:54:17] - Overcoming Myths About Heat Pumps

    [01:06:30] - The Importance of Customer-Centric Design

    [01:13:38] - Closing Thoughts

    Connect with the Guest Silas Hoeppner on

    👉 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/silasjames/

    👉 Modern Heating and Air Conditioning website: https://modernhvacservices.com/

    👉 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/silasjames8758

    Follow the Hosts

    👉 Ed Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716

    👉 Eric Fitz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/

    👉 Amply Energy Website: https://www.amply.energy/

    👉 Amply Energy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergy

    👉 Amply Energy Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergy

    👉 Amply Energy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/

  • Rapidly Scaling a Heat Pump Business from 0 to 27 Trucks in Four Years - with Mike Missimer

    Rapidly Scaling a Heat Pump Business from 0 to 27 Trucks in Four Years - with Mike Missimer

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    In this episode of the Heat Pump Podcast, co-hosts Ed Smith and Eric Fitz are joined by Mike Missimer, an HVAC industry veteran and principal owner of MGI Mechanical Services. The conversation dives into how Mike leveraged decades of experience to build a thriving heat pump-focused business during the pandemic. They explore the nuances of starting a business, designing efficient heat pump systems, and managing rapid growth—all while navigating the challenges of running a company at higher altitudes and in a rapidly changing energy landscape.

    Mike Missimer is the principal owner of MGI Mechanical Services, an HVAC company specializing in heat pumps and energy-efficient systems. With a career spanning nearly three decades, Mike has been instrumental in advancing building science principles, writing green building codes, and educating the next generation of HVAC professionals. Based in Colorado, he has expanded MGI to a multi-division company with a strong focus on innovation, customer relationships, and industry leadership.

    📚 Expect to Learn

    ⚫ The unique challenges and opportunities of launching an HVAC business during a crisis like the pandemic.

    ⚫ Insights into Mike’s differentiated, analytical, high-performance in-home sales and design process

    ⚫ Insights into heat pump design at high altitudes and how environmental factors affect system performance.

    ⚫ Strategies for educating and training teams to embrace building science principles.

    ⚫ Lessons on scaling a business sustainably while managing rapid growth and internal restructuring.

    ⚫ The importance of customer-centric design and communication in differentiating from competitors.

    ⏳ Episode Breakdown with Timestamps ⏳

    [00:00:00] Introduction: Philosophy of HVAC Design

    [00:01:52] Meet Mike Missimer

    [00:05:15] Launching MGI During COVID-19

    [00:10:12] From HVAC Technician to Business Leader

    [00:18:11] Economic Realities of Differentiated Design

    [00:27:01] Understanding Homeowners’ Needs

    [00:38:29] Designing Heat Pumps for High Altitudes

    [00:49:34] Overcoming Business Hurdles

    [00:56:01] Future Goals for MGI

    [01:01:43] Recommended Resources

    Connect with our Guest Mike Missimer on

    👉 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-missimer-22214158/

    👉 MGI Mechanical Services Website: https://www.mgimechanicalservices.com/

    👉 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MGIMechanicalServices/

    Follow the Hosts

    👉 Ed Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-smith-5aa8716/

    👉 Eric Fitz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ehfitz/

    👉 Amply Energy Website: https://www.amply.energy/

    👉 Amply Energy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amplyenergy

    👉 Amply Energy Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amplyenergy

    👉 Amply Energy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amply_energy/

    Follow The Heat Pump Podcast now for the latest on heat pump sales, design, and more. 💯

  • Top 10 lessons from the Heat Pump Podcast in 2024

    Top 10 lessons from the Heat Pump Podcast in 2024

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    We (Eric and Ed) started the Heat Pump Podcast on a whim. After two years immersed in HVAC, heat pumps, and home electrification, we had a realization: there’s a lot of great HVAC content out there, but heat pump-focused conversations? Surprisingly scarce.

    This didn’t sit right with us.

    Aren’t heat pumps the best HVAC equipment on the market today?Aren’t their COPs practically magic?Aren’t heat pumps the future of HVAC?

    So why was the discussion around them so… occasional?

    To see if we could change that, we launched the Heat Pump Podcast as an experiment. What’s happened since has blown us away.

    What We’ve Learned

    After 7 months, 15 episodes, a rapid rise in listeners, and great feedback from heat pump-focused entrepreneurs, we took a moment to reflect. In this latest episode, we compare notes and share the biggest lessons we’ve learned along the way. Such as:

    1. We love it. Turns out, we’d do this even if no one listened. Every episode has been an incredible learning experience.

    2. There are way more heat pump-focused entrepreneurs than we imagined!

    3. Designing for heat pump systems is way harder than conventional equipment

    4. You can't make up for bad design

    5. Focusing on heat pumps creates a winning business

    6. Heat pumps. Are. More. Comfortable. Period.

    Tune in to the episode for our top 10 lessons from the Heat Pump Podcast Season 1!

    A Heartfelt Thanks

    To our incredible guests: thank you for taking a chance on two heat-pump-obsessed entrepreneurs with a niche podcast idea. Your time and insights have made every episode richer.

    What’s Next?

    We’re just getting started. With more episodes planned for 2025, we’re excited to keep growing the conversation around heat pumps, HVAC innovation, and building science.

    🎧 Tune in to this special reflection episode and join us on the journey!

  • Mark Kasdorf wants to build a $1B+ heat pump business

    Mark Kasdorf wants to build a $1B+ heat pump business

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    What if you could do to construction what Amazon did to retail? Or what Uber did to taxis?

    Mark Kasdorf has an ambitious vision to do just that, and his journey starts with heat pumps.

    Mark is the founder and CEO of Forge, a venture-backed, mission-driven startup tackling one of America’s biggest challenges: the skilled labor shortage in the trades. Forge’s secret? Recruiting great talent, training them quickly, and empowering them to lead their own crews fast. Really fast.

    In just 18 months, Forge went from installing its first heat pump to running over 10 crews across New England—all through organic growth, no acquisitions That’s a pace unheard of in the HVAC space, where reaching 10+ crews can take years.

    Mark describes HVAC as the “goldilocks trade”—challenging enough to require specialized training, but more scalable than electrical or plumbing, which require more licensing. Within HVAC, Forge is laser-focused on heat pumps, a decision that reflects the size of the market, profitability, and growth prospects.

    In this podcast episode, Mark shares fascinating insights into:

    • Forge’s rapid journey from one crew to many.

    • His roadmap for scaling to $10M, $100M, and beyond.

    • Why the trades can't be “gigified” and what that means for the construction industry.

    • Lessons learned from other startups’ failures to disrupt the trades.

    • What makes Forge both similar to and different from a traditional heat pump company.

    Whether you’re curious about how venture capitalists see the HVAC industry, or you want a fresh perspective on heat pumps, this episode is a must-listen.

    Listen now to hear why Mark believes HVAC is the ultimate trade and why heat pumps are at the center of it all.

    Show notes:

    Mark's LinkedInForgeCo
  • Good COP, Bad COP and heat pumps with Adam Mufich

    Good COP, Bad COP and heat pumps with Adam Mufich

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    Adam Mufich is a multi-generation HVAC entrepreneur and now trainer for the National Comfort Institute. What does Adam like to do in his free time? Talk about HVAC.

    Adam first caught our attention with his HVAC School article Good COP - Bad COP. He impressed us again with his presentation at the NCI Summit "How to Properly Design with Today's Heat Pumps." We highly recommend both.

    On this podcast, Adam dives into his educational journey, sharing how he finally stopped delaying his learning and dove in feet first. He started down the rabbit hole with a Manual J class by Alex Meaney and reading Nate Adams' book. As he went deeper and deeper, one of his first big realizations was: properly done load calculations can be nerve-wracking (at first) when you see how much smaller they are than expected.

    What makes this episode particularly fun is Adam’s story of applying his newfound knowledge to his own home. He installed a Daikin SkyAir heat pump and then tackled infiltration by meticulously hand caulking his roof, leak by leak. As a result of his efforts, he significantly reduced his home’s load. Taking it a step further, and with advice from Roman Baugh, Adam reprogrammed his Daikin SkyAir to function as a 1.5-ton heat pump instead of its original 3-ton capacity.

    The results? Even at half capacity, the system performed beautifully.

    This podcast episode strikes a perfect balance between theory and practice, offering invaluable insights for contractors looking to improve heat pump performance. Whether you’re just starting your HVAC learning journey or looking for actionable tips, this episode is packed with inspiration and expertise.

    Show notes

    Adam's LinkedInNational Comfort InstituteGood COP - Bad COPDaikin SkyAirAlex MeaneyNate Adams' book
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    The "Great Heat Pump Revolt of 2025" and how to avoid it, with Steve Rogers

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    Steve Rogers, head of The Energy Conservatory (TEC), leads one of the most influential companies in HVAC. TEC’s True Flow Grid has transformed how many Amply customers approach home analysis and system design—and in this episode, Steve explains why airflow and duct analysis are crucial for building efficient, high-performance heat pump systems.

    Steve is an engineer’s engineer, the kind of person who creates detailed spreadsheets—just for fun—to balance every tradeoff in heat pump selection, from comfort to cost and efficiency. In this episode, he brings that same rigor to topics every HVAC pro needs to know, including:

    Air flow and heat pumpsDuct placement and why leakage can double the loadEnvelope vs. duct leakage and their impact on performanceDucted vs. ductless systems and when each is optimalBest-case vs. worst-case scenarios for heat pump installs (and how to avoid costly mistakes)

    Listening to Steve is like taking a masterclass from a professor who makes complex concepts easy to understand. If you’re ready to elevate your expertise in heat pump design, this episode is for you. Don’t miss it!

    Show notes

    Steve's LinkedInThe Energy ConservatoryThe TrueFlow Grid on TruTech ToolsThe National Comfort InstitutemeasureQuickBryan Orr's HVAC SchoolKristof Irwin's Building Science Podcast
  • Jim Bergmann's religious conversion... to heat pumps

    Jim Bergmann's religious conversion... to heat pumps

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    Jim Bergmann’s journey through the HVAC industry is one for the books. From riding alongside his dad in the truck to launching industry-leading companies like TruTech Tools and measureQuick, Jim has seen it all. With a storied career as both a teacher and an entrepreneur, Jim has earned his place as one of the most respected voices in the industry.

    We were thrilled to sit down with Jim for this podcast episode, not only because of his unmatched technical expertise and his standing in the HVAC world but because of his ability to tell a heck of a story. But perhaps the most interesting part? Jim used to be really skeptical about heat pumps.

    As he describes it, he had a “come to Jesus moment” with heat pumps that turned him from a skeptic to a passionate advocate. Now, Jim’s in love with the heat pump in his own home, and in this episode, he shares how that transformation happened. Hearing him break down the technical barriers that once held him back, why he’s now a believer, and what needs to happen to ensure the transition to heat pumps is successful makes this a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of HVAC and the heat pump revolution.

    Tune in to hear Jim’s story, his deep technical insights, and what he believes is key to the industry’s successful transition to heat pumps. You won’t want to miss this episode!

    Show notes:

    Jim's LinkedInmeasureQuickmeasureQuick on LinkedInmeasureQuick on Instagram TruTech Tools
  • David Daher prepares to launch a new heat pump-focused business

    David Daher prepares to launch a new heat pump-focused business

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    The timing was perfect to interview David Daher because, after 20 years in HVAC, he's on the cusp of launching a brand new heat pump-focused business. With a clear vision and unwavering commitment to achieving it, David doesn’t want just any business—he wants the right one.

    David began his journey in the trades in the US military. After returning to civilian life, he quickly entered the HVAC world, eventually starting his own business, and successfully selling it a few years ago. Along the way, he discovered the power of combining building science with heat pump technology. Through this approach, he found he could serve homeowners better.

    David is set to launch a highly specialized contracting business focused solely on delivering heat pump solutions to the right clients. He knows exactly who he wants to serve and how his business will stand out in a crowded market. He's setting up his entire business so that he can work with a handful of the right customers each week.

    Whether you’re considering launching a heat pump business or you’ve already taken the leap, David’s strategic approach will inspire you. His commitment to staying focused, making tough decisions, and working only with the right customers is a masterclass in business strategy. As he shares his thought process, you’ll discover the power of saying "no" to things that don't fit your vision.

    Show notes:

    https://ductworkpro.com/https://www.youtube.com/@visionairyheatingandcooling
  • Fortunat Mueller explains why solar & heat pumps are a magical combination

    Fortunat Mueller explains why solar & heat pumps are a magical combination

    · The Heat Pump Podcast

    So far, most of our episodes have focused on HVAC companies. Today, we branch out, interviewing Fortunat Mueller, co-founder and CEO of ReVision Energy. ReVision started out as a solar company, but over time has become an "energy transition company." A major part of their business is installing heat pumps.

    In this episode, we dig into what it means to be an energy transition company. Fortunat explains how and why ReVision got into HVAC, and in particular why they focus exclusively on heat pumps. He lays out why solar and heat pumps fit naturally into a single business model, and why ReVision's many offerings perfectly meet the energy transition experience that is most comfortable for homeowners. Few homeowners want to do it all in one go. Instead, they'd rather tackle it piece by piece over the course of many years.

    Fortunat shares a lot, such as:

    How ReVision evolved over timeHow companies are built, not from one big idea, but from countless smaller decisions over years that work together to create something greatReVision's focus on training as a competitive advantage when there is a dramatic shortage of tradespeopleHow heat pumps perform in the real world, even in climates as brutal as Maine'sHow heat pump technology has evolved and improved over timeWhat an ESOP is and why it's a competitive advantage...... And lots more

    Whether you're a solar company thinking about getting into heat pumps -- or if you're an HVAC company wondering how your competition is evolving -- you'll get a lot out of this episode.

    Show notes:

    Revision EnergyFortunat MuellerNESEA
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