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  • Host Doug Stuart sits down with Miranda Zapor Cruz, a distinguished Professor of Historical Theology at Indiana Wesleyan University, to explore the intricate relationship between faith and politics. Miranda's new book, Faithful Politics: 10 Approaches to Christian Citizenship and Why It Matters, lays the groundwork for a comprehensive discussion on how Christians can navigate their dual citizenship—as citizens of the Kingdom of God and participants in earthly political systems.

    Miranda articulates the historical and theological roots of various Christian political approaches, from the Social Gospel's left-leaning ambitions to Calvinist dominionist principles. The conversation also touches on the nuanced concepts of principled pluralism, separationist approaches, and the implications of defining Christian nationalism too broadly.

    Listeners will gain insightful perspectives on how different Christian traditions engage with political responsibilities—whether through fervent societal transformation or steadfast separation. Miranda also brings a global lens to the discussion, comparing American Christians' relative ease of practice with the severe challenges faced by believers in oppressive regimes.

    Join us for an engaging episode that not only critiques contemporary political discourse but also provides a pathway for Christians to think critically and faithfully about their political involvement. Don’t miss Miranda's thoughtful reflections on the importance of scripture's holistic narrative for guiding political engagement and the nuanced definitions of freedom in the Kingdom of God versus the United States.


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  • In this episode, Doug Stuart is joined by author Ryan McMaken to discuss his book Breaking Away: The Case for Secession, Radical Decentralization, and Smaller Politics. After exploring the roots and history of secessionist movements, the conversation moves to a more conceptual discussion where Ryan explains the meaning of decentralization, its associated benefits, and alternatives. Doug then asks Ryan to elaborate on the relationship between localism and federalism and how the tension impacts universal rights.


    Acknowledging the recent relevance of secession, Doug and Ryan turn to practical considerations, rounding out the episode with a discussion on nuclear weapons, national debt, and the potential role of blockchain technology.


    Ryan McMaken is a senior editor at the Mises Institute and co-hosts the Radio Rothbard podcast. He earned his bachelor’s degree in economics and master’s degree in public policy and international relations from the University of Colorado.

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  • Doug Stuart is joined by guests Alex Bernardo and Cody Cook for an engaging conversation that spans the spectrum of libertarian electoral strategies, internal divides within the movement, and how libertarians can effectively communicate their message to diverse audiences.

    Alex Bernardo elucidates the reasoning behind libertarian support for specific candidates, drawing attention to the significance of state electoral votes and strategic voting. Using Kentucky as an example, he discusses why a vote for Thomas Massie may be more impactful than a throwaway presidential vote. He also touches on the potential of third-party candidates to reshape the political landscape. Drawing from Apostle Paul's approach to evangelism, Alex underscores the necessity of tailoring libertarian messaging to different groups.

    Cody Cook weighs in on the concept of voting for the "least painful" candidate and voices concerns about focusing too narrowly on individual platform aspects. The dialogue explores "respectability politics" and the importance of libertarians maintaining respectful yet substantive conversations across splits within the movement.

    A notable segment of the episode includes a discussion about Alex inviting Zach Weisszmuller and Jeremy Kaufman to voice their perspectives on the Mises Caucus and the broader libertarian movement. Alex and Cody engage in a candid back-and-forth about political, stylistic, and strategic differences, as well as the cultural divide.

    Race and ideology also come under the microscope, with Alex reading from Hans Hermann Hoppe to highlight right-libertarian views on egalitarianism versus left-libertarian policy focuses. Cody fears the implications of self-segregation and advocates for a color-blind philosophy rooted in individuality.

    This conversation covers contentious issues like open borders, the potential for the libertarian movement to align with traditional conservative figures, and the perils of anti-intellectual populism. The episode examines both radical and mainstream outreach strategies, analyzing their effectiveness in growing the libertarian base.

    Show Notes:

    Alex's interview with Zach WeissmullerAlex's interview with Jeremy Kauffman

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  • In this episode, Doug Stuart speaks with Nilay Saiya, author of The Global Politics of Jesus: A Christian Case for Church-State Separation. They discuss the two primary ways Christians approach politics and what those errors are. Nilay discusses these approach in juxtaposition to so-called "Christian Nationalism." He posits a third approach which he believes is aligned with historic Two Kingdoms theology and borrows from Catholic social teaching. He called this approach, Prophetic Witness. Nilay Saiya is assistant professor of public policy and global affairs at Nanyang Technological University, Singapore. His research concerns the influence of religion on global politics. He is author of the book Weapon of Peace: How Religious Liberty Combats Terrorism (2018). He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Notre Dame.

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  • In this episode of the Libertarian Christian Podcast, host Doug Stuart sits down with Jim Babka to dissect the allure of populist rhetoric and its impact on modern politics.

    The discussion covers Project 2025, a comprehensive policy document by the Heritage Foundation, and the misconceptions surrounding its recommendations. Listeners will gain insight into Jim Babka's extensive work, including his roles at Downsized DC, the Zero Aggression Project, and his podcast "Gracearchy with Jim Babka."

    The episode also touches on pressing issues such as the national debt, economic realities, and the often sensationalized conflict perpetuated by the political industrial complex. Jim shares his skepticism towards certain political claims and emphasizes the importance of economic over social issues in political discourse.

    They explore how figures like Trump and Obama have harnessed populist appeal, contrasting their legacies with those of Romney, Clinton, McCain, and Biden.

    Jim and Doug delve into the phenomenon of undecided voters, pondering the psychological and social factors that drive individuals to switch their political affiliations. From the impact of spin and tribal identification to the emotional investment and loss of individuality in aligning with political parties, the conversation sheds light on the complexities of voter behavior.

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  • Former Libertarian Party Vice-Presidential candidate, Spike Cohen joins Doug Stuart for a discussion about politics, faith, and libertarian activism. Cohen, raised as a Messianic Jew, recounts some of his personal journey in and out of faith. Cohen explains how he became a libertarian and some significant moments in America's recent history where the left and right were very close to unifying on common cause. He then describes how he's come to understand the single most important issue that affects all others is the monopolization of the monetary system through the Federal Reserve. Responsibility for nearly ever grievance against societal problems and government can be laid squarely at the feet at the central bankers. Spike Cohen goes on to address some key issues with the broader freedom movement, including the ongoing divide between pragmatists and idealists. He describes this as "our own duopoly" explaining that both sides need each other and maintaining the divide is handicapping our ultimate goal. He's organized a non-profit called You are the Power, dedicated to grassroots municipal level activism with an effective approach. Cohen highlights one story about Pastor Moses and the city of Gastonia, NC that shutdown his homeless shelter, apparently, to secure tax dollars to finance government homeless programs. Finally, he answers the toughest question about how can possibly have a perfect relationship with his wife, Tasha.

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  • In June 2024, Dr. Norman Horn participated in a Theology by the Pint event, where the topics of discussion were on whether a Christian can be patriotic, a nationalist, or are these things idolatry? Three participants gave opening statements, and a panel discussion with audience Q&A followed.

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  • In this episode, Doug Stuart talks with Alex Nowrasteh of the Cato Institute, about both Nationalism and immigration. Nowrasteh recently debated The National Review's Rich Lowry on the topic of Nationalism, with Nowrasteh taking the opposing view. This conversation lends well to arguments against so-called "Christian" nationalism as well. Though Nowrasteh is not himself religious, he makes compelling points about the destructive nature of nationalism to religious belief. Since religious belief is generally good for society, the last thing we should want to do is destroy it through state-sanctioned compulsion. Immigration turns out to be a issue related to nationalism, given the motivations for stricter immigration rules stem from nationalistic tendencies.

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  • Doug Stuart sits down with Ed Uszynski, a seasoned ministry consultant, to navigate the complex waters of Critical Race Theory (CRT) and its impact on race relations within the church and broader society. Ed shares his unique insights stemming from over three decades of ministry experience with college and professional athletes, marriage ministry, and consulting on diversity for church organizations.

    The conversation kicks off with Ed expressing his concern about the limited options in American politics and the historical use of the Bible to endorse slavery, emphasizing the church’s responsibility in addressing racial issues. Doug and Ed delve into the differing perspectives and experiences of black Christians versus white evangelicals, shedding light on the often-dismissed conversations about racial injustice within the church.

    Ed is concerned about the defensiveness of white Christians and the radical reactions from those feeling unheard. He highlights the importance of approaching these discussions with empathy and understanding rather than being dismissive. Throughout the episode, Ed shares his experiences from a secular PhD program, which offered an in-depth perspective on critical theory, Marxism. Ed then talks about their intersection with a Christian worldview. Doug and Ed discuss the challenge of colorblindness, the concept of white privilege, and the necessity for cross-cultural competence among white Christians.

    The podcast does not shy away from addressing the backlash against CRT and the accusations of "wokeism" often leveled against those discussing racial issues. Ed and Doug critique the oversimplification and weaponization of these terms, advocating for more civil discourse and open communication within the church.

    Key Points Discussed:

    Limited political representation and historical misuse of the Bible in endorsing slaveryDiffering views of black Christians and white evangelicals on racial issuesCriticism of white Christians' defensiveness and the radical reactions from marginalized groupsExperiences in secular academia and critical theory's intersection with ChristianityThe concepts of colorblindness and white privilege and challenges within church inclusivityBacklash against CRT and "wokeism," advocating for civil discourseIntroduction of Ed’s book and website for further engagement on CRT discussions

    Enjoy this quite candid and critical look at how we can better address race relations within our communities and our faith.

    Additional Resources:

    https://untanglingcrt.comFollow Ed on X: https://x.com/uszynski32

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  • Doug Stuart sits down with Caleb E. Campbell, pastor and author of the provocative book, Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor. Together, they delve into the heart of political tension within Christian congregations and explore the complex landscape of American Christian nationalism.

    Caleb shares his personal journey of witnessing unexpected political shifts in his community and religious events colored by political overtones, leading him to write his book. Through their conversation, they address the challenge of loving those with differing political and religious beliefs, recognizing Christian nationalism as a form of spiritual idolatry and toxic tribalism that offers a sense of safety, belonging, and purpose.

    The episode explores the nuances of identifying Christian nationalists, the anxiety driving their beliefs, and the problematic merging of American civil religion with Christianity—a process known as syncretism. Caleb stresses the fundamental flaw of labeling any state as "Christian," revealing the categorical error and missiological consequences of such a designation.

    Listeners will learn about Caleb's practical strategies for engaging in constructive dialogues, as he shares a field guide from his book designed to facilitate heart-to-heart conversations on contentious topics, such as the notion of America being a Christian nation and the impact of immigration. He emphasizes the importance of not merely winning arguments but fostering deeper understanding and connection.

    Through thought-provoking examples, including heartfelt interactions with family members holding differing views, Caleb advocates for hospitality and curiosity as tools to bridge divides. The episode underscores the significance of bearing one another's burdens and seeking restoration despite differing opinions.

    Additional Resources:

    Buy the book on Amazon

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  • How do we as Christians and libertarians view the era of the American Revolution? Mike Maharrey of the 10th Amendment Center and the Godarchy podcast, and our own Matthew Bellis discuss their patriotic upbringing and how they square their heartfelt love for American principles, but disdain for the war, slavery, colonialism, etc. Can we properly judge Americans of the past with a 21st conception of morality? These questions (and more) are discussed by Mike, Matthew, and Doug with the hope of offering some clarity to how we as libertarians and Christians think about the American Revolution.

    Additional Resources:

    Wendy McElroy on Just War and American IndependenceChristian Theology of Public Policy: Highlighting the American Experience“Were the American Revolutionaries Wrong to Revolt?”Episode 256: America’s Revolutionary Mind

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  • In this episode, Doug Stuart speaks with Dr. Paul D. Miller about Christian nationalism. Dr. Paul D. Miller is a Professor in the Practice of International Affairs at Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service. See his profile here. Miller published the book, The Religion of American Greatness: What’s Wrong with Christian Nationalism. Stuart and Miller begin with the general sentiment about “love of country” and conclude with why this means we should oppose Christian nationalism. But, of course, Christian nationalism in America raises important question about racism.

    Miller gives reasoned, incisive response without the typical polemics that tend to go along such a controversial topic. He helps listeners think about the difference between personal sentiment of racism, and the backdrop of racialized issues and language, without appealing to woke ideology. Was race really a motivator for electing Barak Obama? Why CN is more culturally motivated than politically motivated, and why the crossover from culture to politics is happening none-the-less.

    Christians against Christian nationalism should be the sentiment shared by Bible-believing liberty-lovers. Ideas about American equivalence to Israel is simply bad doctrine. Desires to resurrect so-called “Christendom” is also based on an arguably unbiblical ideology of establishmentarianism. If you’ve been looking for an honest and rational conversation about Christian nationalism, then please listen to this episode and considering purchasing Miller’s excellent book.

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  • Join Doug Stuart and guest Jim Babka as they delve into a thought-provoking discussion ranging from exploring the theological implications of the Trinity and the Imago Dei to analyzing the moral and practical considerations of borders and property rights, offering deep insights into how faith and liberty intersect in various aspects of life. Discover Jim Babka's unique perspective on the importance of voluntary interactions, freedom of association, and the transformative power of serving others, even amidst differing beliefs. Dive into engaging conversations on the complexities of Christian faith and libertarian principles, and gain new perspectives on liberty, service, and the enduring pursuit of truth. Subscribe now to hear more enlightening discussions on the Libertarian Christian Podcast.

    Links:

    Zero-Aggression ProjectGracearchy

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  • Doug Stuart welcomes a distinguished guest, Mark Skousen, renowned investment expert, economist, university professor, author, and founder of FreedomFest. Skousen shares insights into his journey towards libertarianism, shaped by his upbringing in a conservative Democratic and Mormon family, and underscores the significance of individual liberty and maximum choice in both personal and business spheres, inspired by Adam Smith's principles.

    Skousen provides an in-depth look into the origins and evolution of FreedomFest, conceived during his tenure as president and CEO of the Foundation for Economic Education (FEE) in 2001. Despite fundraising challenges that curtailed his time at FEE, Skousen’s vision of an annual gathering of freedom enthusiasts persisted, culminating in the creation of FreedomFest in 2007. This vibrant event, held annually in Las Vegas, offers attendees an eclectic mix of entertainment, keynote speeches, breakout sessions, networking opportunities, media coverage, and lively debates.

    Drawing notable figures from various fields, FreedomFest boasts a diverse lineup of speakers, including celebrities like William Shatner and George Foreman, and this year expects appearances from Rob Schneider and Ice T. The event also features full presidential debates and a focus on pressing topics such as bitcoin. Skousen highlights the upcoming event's theme, "Brave New World," aimed at addressing current global issues with an optimistic perspective, and mentions key speakers like Javier Millay, Steven Pinker, and Lord Matt Ridley.

    This July, LCI will be joining thousands of passionate defenders of liberty in Las Vegas for FreedomFest, “the world’s largest gathering of free minds.” Just like last year and the years before that, it will be a rewarding four-day conference like no other, with big debates, world-class speakers, film/music/comedy/arts festivals, social events, the “Tradeshow for Liberty” exhibit hall, and so much more.

    LCI will be there with hundreds of other premier speakers and top-level experts in a wide range of topics. Don’t miss yours truly, along with Javier Milei, Ice-T, Kennedy, Steven Pinker, Emily Compagno, Steve Forbes, Justin Amash, and many others.

    New signups save $50 off the current “Attendee” rate! Use our special code: CHRISTIAN50

    Learn more about what’s included in your conference pass, who you’ll meet, and the life-changing experience you’ll have at FreedomFest Vegas: “Brave New World?” July 10-13, 2024 at CAESARS FORUM conference center.

    Register now with our code: CHRISTIAN50!

    FreedomFest is for the independent mind and spirit who chooses to be alive. We detest authoritarianism in all of its forms and seek unequivocal liberty for all. We believe in the pursuit of knowledge, diversity of ideas, human flourishing for all, fraternity with all, toleration for those we disagree with, and aspire for a life well and fully lived, a life of meaning and purpose in the service of goals, ends, and values worth serving. FreedomFest, at its core, is the embodiment of the Liberty Lifestyle.

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  • Dr. Michael Rectenwald is a former Marxist joining Doug Stuart to explain The Great Reset. Dr. Rectenwald is the author of twelve books, including The Great Reset and the Struggle for Liberty: Unraveling the Global Agenda (Jan. 2023), Thought Criminal (Dec. 2020); Beyond Woke (May 2020); Google Archipelago: The Digital Gulag and the Simulation of Freedom (Sept. 2019); Springtime for Snowflakes: “Social Justice” and Its Postmodern Parentage (an academic’s memoir, 2018); Nineteenth-Century British Secularism: Science, Religion and Literature (2016); Academic Writing, Real World Topics (2015, Concise Edition 2016); Global Secularisms in a Post-Secular Age (2015); Breach (Collected Poems, 2013); The Thief and Other Stories (2013); and The Eros of the Baby-Boom Eras (1991). (See the Books page.)

    In this episode Dr. Rectenwald fleshes out questions explaining the connection between Marxism and woke ideology, and that connection to Klaus Schwab’s, The Great Reset, a plan with the World Economic Forum to monopolize the world economy. The discussion highlights some key point including the seemingly innocuous nature of the gateway ideologies to Marxism – namely, social justice, anti-racism, etc. If you’ve been interested in understanding more about the Great Reset, listen to this episode and consider purchasing Dr. Revtenwald’s book.

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  • Special guests Sarah Stone and Evan McClanahan join us to disucss their innovative initiative, Theology by the Pint. This exciting forum has transformed the traditional setting of theological discussions by incorporating a casual atmosphere where young professionals can gather, pint in hand, to delve into deep and sometimes controversial topics.

    Sarah and Evan share their experiences of hosting these events, emphasizing the importance of creating a warm and charitable environment even when discussing contentious issues such as LGBTQ matters within the church. Their approach to include diverse viewpoints, like an affirming pastor, showcases their commitment to love and charity in disagreements, and underscores the value of humor and respect in such dialogues. The episode also touches on making theological discussions accessible to a broad audience, from those well-versed in theology to individuals who might feel overwhelmed by complex jargon. Sarah shares her strategy of pausing to clarify terms and encouraging explanatory parenthetical statements to ensure everyone is on the same page.

    The conversation further explores the organization's democratic process in choosing discussion topics, the types of government systems they tackle, the impact of political rhetoric on Christian beliefs, and the ever-present challenge of maintaining integrity while hosting diverse and sometimes conflicting views.

    Listeners will also get a preview of upcoming events, including a notable June 11, 2024, gathering with Norman Horn, founder of the Libertarian Christian Institute. Additionally, the episode highlights the community aspects of Theology by the Pint events, which feature social hours, charity spotlights, trivia, and open Q&A sessions allowing for real-time audience engagement.


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  • Cody Cook joins us once again to delve deep into the complex relationship between Christianity, libertarianism, and the contentious issue of violence and military service. Cody Cook, informed by his Christian anarchist and Anabaptist perspective, presents a critical analysis of various biblical passages often cited in discussions about Christians taking up arms or serving in the military.

    Cook challenges traditional interpretations of the passage in Luke that suggests Jesus condoned his disciples buying swords, arguing instead for an understanding that aligns with fulfilling specific prophecies rather than advocating for self-defense. Backed by four solid reasons, including historical contexts and Tertullian's insights, Cook makes a compelling case for a nonviolent interpretation of Scripture.

    The discussion touches on the delicate balance between the Christian impulse for self-protection and the promotion of long-term peace, debating the impact of Romans 13 on the present-day Christian libertarian thought. Cook and Stuart unpack the nuances around the topics of Christian nationalism and the implications of self-defense within a libertarian framework, understanding that these views may diverge within the Christian community.

    Listeners will also get a glimpse into Cody Cook's literary contributions, including his books "What Belongs to Caesar," "Fight the Powers," and "Christian Nationalism," which provide further reading on these complex subjects and are available for LCI Insiders.

    The dialogue brings forward the universal question of whether a Christian can reconcile serving as a soldier with their faith, as exemplified by the New Testament figure Cornelius. With a dose of humor and earnest reflection, Doug and Cody invite listeners to reconsider the interpretations that underpin their beliefs regarding violence and nonviolence in the New Testament.

    Enrich your understanding of how libertarian principles mesh with Christian ethics and join our hosts as they navigate these critical issues with insight, reverence, and a willingness to challenge conventional viewpoints.

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  • Cody Cook is back for a deep dive into the complexities of interpreting Romans 13. Cody challenges traditional readings of these passages, suggesting that the Apostle Paul may have employed irony or even sarcasm when discussing the role of magistrates and the obedience due to them. Are rulers always to be obeyed, and do they consistently execute good? Cody argues otherwise, referencing external literature and historical context to support his claim.

    Throughout the conversation, both Doug and Cody shed light on the responsibility of Christians to live a non-violent life, fueled by love that overshadows or catalyzes the judgment against oppressive rulers. They explore the nuanced Greek language and bring to the forefront the scholarly perspectives of T.L. Carter, along with thoughts from NT Wright and Michael Bird, suggesting a more ironic take on Paul's words.

    Listeners will be invited to reconsider what it means to honor the magistrate and reflect on the broader implications of a duty-bound Christian conscience in the face of authority. This is a critical examination of libertarian and potentially anarchist views on governance, questioning if the state is indeed the sole model for societal order.


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  • In this thought-provoking episode of the Libertarian Christian Podcast, our host Doug Stuart and special guest Cody Cook delve deep into the intricate balance between Christian duty and libertarian principles in the context of taxation. Drawing from the insights from Cody's book, we explore the controversial story in Matthew 17, where Jesus addresses the temple tax and lays the groundwork for a Christian understanding of fiscal obligations.

    Guided by the Gospel's wisdom, we unpack the statement "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and unto God what is God's," and its relevance for libertarian Christians today. Cody Cook challenges the mainstream interpretation of divided allegiance between God and Caesar, arguing that the passage is not inherently contradictory for libertarians. As Jesus adeptly navigates the trap set by the Pharisees and Herodians, we learn the subtleties of non-confrontational tax compliance and the avoidance of unnecessary offense.

    The duo also tackles broader questions of ownership and property rights, dissecting passages like Psalm 24 and Job 41:11, to contrast divine and human claims. Cody and Doug offer different hermeneutical perspectives, cautioning against simplistic readings and highlighting the historical and economic contexts of the scriptures.

    This episode includes references to "Render unto Caesar," Psalm 24, Job 41:11, Matthew 17, and Matthew 22:15-22.

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