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  • Best Of: What is Trauma? And Stories of Recovery

    Best Of: What is Trauma? And Stories of Recovery

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    70% of adults in the U.S. are estimated to have experienced some type of traumatic event at least once in their lives—that’s 223.4 million people.


    In this Best Of episode, we’re listening back to excerpts from past guests who bravely shared their stories of experiences with traumatic events in their lives—and, how different forms of therapy have supported their ongoing healing journeys.


    Michael Baldwin and Dr. Deborah L. Korn are co-authors of Every Memory Deserves Respect, a book about Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR), which tells Michael’s story as a trauma survivor alongside Deborah’s extensive expertise as a researcher and clinician who has studied and implemented EMDR therapy to help people like Michael recover from the effects of trauma. Listen to our full 2023 interview with Michael and Debbie here.


    Christine Macdonald is a Los Angeles-based author and former exotic dancer whose memoir, Face Value: From Working The Pole To Baring My Soul, tells the story of how the trauma she endured in her young life led her to the underground world of adult entertainment where she spent nearly a decade trying to find her self-worth. Listen to the full 2023 interview with Christine here. 


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  • Maybe America's political divisions aren't as

    Maybe America's political divisions aren't as "unprecedented" as we think

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    A disputed US presidential election? Narrowly avoided government shutdowns? Divisions over race relations stemming from the legacy of slavery in the United States?


    These issues were on the minds of Americans in 1880, just as they do in 2023.


    (Maybe the political division that defines the present age is not as unique as we think!)


    To discuss the similarities — and stark differences — between the United States of America in 1880 and 2023, we're joined by C.W. Goodyear. C.W. (Charlie) is a writer, author, presidential historian, and biographer whose book is President Garfield: From Radical To Unifier. The presidential biography tells the story of a forgotten, misunderstood President, James A. Garfield, whose assassination just 200 days into his first term overshadowed the fascinating life, accomplishments, and failures of the man who became the 20th American president.


    The presidential biography is also a portrait of an America in flux, where cronyism, nepotism, and bribery dominated national concerns, and a country was attempting (and failing) to navigate the Reconstruction of the South and remedy the recent legacy of chattel slavery in the United States.


    In this interview, Charlie and Dave explore the life and death of President Garfield, including...

    The legacy of another "complicated" White man who was, at once, a fervent abolitionist but held "almost genocidal" views of America's indigenous populationIf James A. Garfield was indeed the "single greatest intellect" ever to be elected U.S. PresidentHow Garfield's assassination resulted from political rhetoric, and what happened to political discourse, after

    C.W. Goodyear is a graduate of Yale University with a degree in Global Affairs. He currently lives in Alexandria, Virginia.


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  • The perils—and privilege—of self-identifying with your work

    The perils—and privilege—of self-identifying with your work

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    Doing work that feels authentic to "who you are" as a person can be quite a gift and privilege; not all of us get to do work that feels in integrity to our values and beliefs.


    And yet, one of the unseen struggles of those whose work blends into their self-identity is, "If 'what you do' is 'who you are,' then happens your sense of self changes?"


    Shauna VanBogart is an entrepreneur, mentor, and speaker who helps entrepreneurs navigate the complexities of evolving self-identity, especially in the modern Internet and social media era. A former image consultant, today, Shauna specializes in helping entrepreneurs and small business owners, especially women, build sustainable service-based businesses that align with their authentic senses of self—fostering financial freedom, fulfillment, and impact along the way. 


    With a background in Communications and Leadership Studies and certification in clinical hypnotherapy, Shauna VanBogart has been featured in Huffington Post, Mint.com, MSN, and CareerBuilder.com. She is a 40 Under 40 award-winner and honored as one of Charleston, South Carolina’s Most Influential Women in Business.


    In this interview, Dave and Shauna explore...

    The untold challenges of being a self-employed entrepreneur in the online space today—and why it's harder than everWhat signs, symptoms, and signals to look out for that say you have "outgrown your work"The difference between experiencing symptoms of burnout and needing to make a change in your life or workHow avoiding making a big decision in your business (or personal life) can hold you back from a necessary evolution in work

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  • Can the men be saved? (If not, can we laugh about it?)

    Can the men be saved? (If not, can we laugh about it?)

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    "What do our jobs do to our souls?"


    That is the big question asked in the debut novel of Ben Purkert called The Men Can’t Be Saved. Following a junior copywriter in New York City whose latest tagline went viral, the novel is a witty, comedic exploration of what it means to be a man in a modern context, unpacking both overt and subtle expressions of toxic masculinity and examining themes like work, religion, sex, drugs, and our selves, in between.


    In this conversation, Ben and Dave discuss...

    Why it was so difficult to make the switch from poetry writing to long-form fiction storytellingBen's relationship to his identity as a man and masculinity, especially as a long-time poet The author's aspirations for his first novel—and why HBO's Succession is his gold standard for dramatic comedy

    Ben Purkert is a poet and novelist whose writing has appeared in The New Yorker, The Nation, Slate, and beyond. He is the founder of Back Draft, a Guernica interview series focused on revision and the creative process. He holds degrees from Harvard and NYU and currently teaches creative writing at Rutgers University-New Brunswick.


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  • Pillars of healthier cross-racial dialogue

    Pillars of healthier cross-racial dialogue

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    How do we talk about race? How should we? And how do we hold healing, constructive dialogues about race when we come from different racial identities and experiences?


    Yseult Polfliet Mukantabana and Hannah Summerhill are the hosts of the award-winning podcast, Kinswomen, which was named Best Podcast of 2020 by Elle, Cosmopolitan, and Marie Claire. After meeting at an event about race in January 2019 in New York City, Yseult and Hannah decided to take their passion for constructive cross-racial dialogues to a broader audience.


    They are the authors of the book, Real Friends Talk About Race: Bridging the Gaps Through Uncomfortable Conversations.


    In this interview, Yseult, Hannah, and Dave reflect on


    The emotional labor—and potential retraumatization—when writing about race and racism as a person from a marginalized identitySpecific techniques to becoming a better friend and human in relationship to others’ identities of historical marginalizationHow Yseult and Hannah keep finding the energy and passion to teach healthy, cross-racial dialogues—even though the attention of “allies” may be moving on

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  • Centering women—and more than just peoples' suffering—in stories

    Centering women—and more than just peoples' suffering—in stories

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    What do we lose as a society when we only experience a person, a group of people, or an entire culture through their pain or losses—not their joys, successes, or humor?


    Alli Frank and Asha Youmans are multi-published authors, novelists, and former educators who use humor, joy, and compassion to write stories that encourage candid conversations about issues such as race, religion, culture, class, privilege, parenting, and education. Alli and Asha found "literary soulmates" in each other after working together as a teacher and a school administrator in Seattle, Washington. That’s when they discovered their shared mission as educators and as authors.


    Alli, who is white and Jewish, and Asha, who is Black and Baptist, bring their very different cultural backgrounds and perspectives together to write in one seamless, cohesive voice, united in their belief that humor and fiction can inspire empathy and learning, and that exposure to diverse experiences can only enrich one’s life. 


    Their latest novel, The Better Half, was named an Entertainment Weekly Best Book of Summer, and an AARP Hot Summer Read in 2023. It is published by comedian, actor, and producer Mindy Kaling's publishing imprint under Amazon, Mindy’s Book Studio.

    How Mindy Kaling fell in love with Alli's and Asha's women-centered storiesThe importance of telling peoples' stories through more than their suffering and strugglesHow joy, wit, and humor can open people up to being more receptive to unfamiliar cultural experiences or identities

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  • How behavioral science explains

    How behavioral science explains "woke backlash"

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    "Woke backlash" refers to the appropriation of the term "woke" and how pockets of American society are pushing back against the progressive social justice moment.


    But why is today's so-called "woke backlash" happening?


    Behavioral science — and a look back at history — help us understand why.


    N. ChloĂ© Nwangwu is a behavioral strategist, brand visibility expert, and former international conflict mediator known as “the Brand Scientist.” Today as the director of NobiWorks, a brand visibility consultancy, ChloĂ© leverages science and strategic branding to help under-recognized brands become impossible to ignore. She’s advised everyone from small businesses to small island nations, and even the first refugee delegation to the United Nations.


    In this ranging interview, Dave and N. Chloé cover:

    How "underrecognized" is a better, more accurate term than "underrepresented" when discussing people of marginalized identitiesThe historical precedent of "woke backlash" and why the group phenomenon of "reactance" occursThe advertising advantage of homogenous audiences — and why companies want to make their audiences and customers more "the same"

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  • Best Of: Celebrating Disability Pride Month

    Best Of: Celebrating Disability Pride Month

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    Did you know that an estimated 61 million Americans live with a disability?


    While the challenges of living with a disability can range from mobility to cognition, independent living, hearing, vision, and self-care, those who experience disabilities also have so much to offer to those without.


    This Disability Pride Month, we're revisiting our 2023 conversation with Brooke Ellison, Ph.D., associate professor of health policy and medical ethics at Stony Brook University and author of the memoir, Look Both Ways. After an accident at age 11, Brooke was left paralyzed from the neck down and ventilator-dependent. As a policy and ethics expert in stem cell research, Brooke now lectures in the very location where medical professionals saved her life over 31 years ago.


    In this interview, Brooke advocates how society, as a whole, has so much to gain from a world in which those with disabilities are integrated into decision-making processes, public policy, and how physical spaces are designed. Listen to our full 2023 interview with Brooke Ellison here.


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  • The untold history of the White House

    The untold history of the White House

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    The White House is one of the most iconic structures known the world over—a symbol of democracy, and American power.


    But who built the White House? Who designed it? And why do so few of us know the true history of the White House?


    Stewart D. McLaurin is the President of the White House Historical Association, a private nonprofit, nonpartisan educational Association founded in 1961 to enhance the understanding, appreciation, and enjoyment of the Executive Mansion, otherwise known as the White House. Over 35+ years, Stewart has held leadership roles with national nonprofit and higher education organizations including the American Red Cross, Georgetown University, Peace Corps, and the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation.


    Stewart is the author of the 2023 children’s picture book, The White House: Designed by James Hoban, Built by Many Hands, which teaches children the true history of the White House, including the forced labor of around 200 enslaved workers of African descent, and how Irish immigrant, James Hoban, was selected to design the iconic structure.


    In this interview, Stewart and Dave discuss...

    How the WHHA functions as a non-government agency, and what partnerships it maintains to furnish the White House and protect its historical artifactsHow First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy helped to modernize the White House and found the WHHAWhat is the legacy of the White House in 2023, and what should this symbol represent to future generations?

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  • How do we help our kids build resilience?

    How do we help our kids build resilience?

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    Resilience is all the rage in education, mental health, and self-help circles these days.


    But what is resilience, really? And, what isn't resilience?


    Dr. Kate Lund is a licensed clinical psychologist of nearly 20 years, a peak performance coach, a best-selling author, and a TEDx speaker.


    Dr. Kate's specialized training in pediatric medical psychology has spanned world-renowned Shriners Hospital for Children; Boston, Massachusetts General Hospital, and Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, all of which are affiliated with Harvard Medical School. She uses a strengths-based approach to help her clients improve their confidence in school, sports, and life while helping them to become more resilient and reach their full potential at all levels. 


    In this interview with host Dave Ursillo, Dr. Kate explains:

    How resilience is a practiced mindset that reflects one's baseline stress and ability to regulate stress over timeHow her diagnosis of hydrocephalus at age four gave Kate a hard-earned, life-long lesson in resilienceWhat we can do to help our kids develop resilience, including through modeling and finding age-appropriate tools and practices to help kids self-regulate

    Dr. Kate is also the host of The Optimized Mind, a podcast that explores how we can define our own unique context, build resilience and maximize potential through engaging with today’s top thought leaders in the business and personal development space.


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  • Finally! A children's book about privilege

    Finally! A children's book about privilege

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    Privilege is an idea that many have been reckoning with in recent years.


    Doesn’t it make sense to introduce young people to the idea of privilege to help them understand the complex realities that exist in our shared world?


    Susan Justice is a children’s legal advocate, attorney, and co-founder of South Asians Against Childhood Abuse, a nonprofit organization based in British Columbia, Canada, that fights childhood abuse in the South Asian community through education, destigmatization, and advocacy projects. Her experience as a legal advocate and a practicing attorney span more than a decade.


    Susan is the author of Children Who Dance in the Rain, a children's picture book that introduces kids to the idea of privilege, especially in developed countries like Canada and the US, and teaches kids about the disadvantages that many of the world’s youth, especially those living in poverty in the Global South, struggle with on a daily basis, such as food insecurity, clean water access, and education.


    Children Who Dance in the Rain has already won 9 awards, including the 2023 Children’s Book of the Year, from the “Human Relations” Indie Book Awards.


    In this interview, Susan and Dave discuss...

    How Susan's personal story and family history inspired the tale told in her children's book, decades laterThe notable lack of children's books on the subject of privilege—and how this new book fills the voidThe work of destigmatizing childhood abuse and shattering historical silence about childhood abuse in the South Asian communityThe complex dilemmas in children's book bans, including rightfully protecting children but empowering their autonomy and exposure to a diversity of ideas

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  • A former exotic dancer finds her voice and tells her story

    A former exotic dancer finds her voice and tells her story

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    Christine Macdonald lived a drug- and booze-fueled fast life as an exotic dancer in Waikiki, Hawaii in the 1980s and 90s.


    Before you think that you can't relate to her life, think again: Christine's story is one of survival, struggling with feeling "less-than," craving acceptance and fighting to fit in. 


    She says you have a lot to learn from a story like hers.


    Christine Macdonald is the author of Face Value: From Working the Pole to Bearing My Soul (2022), a memoir that, with characteristic humor and biting truths, chronicles her life working as an exotic dancer—and the childhood and teenage traumas she was running from. Christine was diagnosed with a rare, severe skin disease called acne congloblata at age 13, which left over 80% of her face scarred. The trauma she endured in her young life led her to the underground world of adult entertainment where Christine spent nearly a decade trying to find her self-worth.


    Her work has appeared in Salon, The Good Men Project, and Anaheim Examiner, among other publications.


    In this interview, Dave and Christine explore:

    How the initial "vanity project" that was telling her story evolved into an opportunity for real healingWhy stage work appealed to someone who was overcoming traumas and chronic feelings of powerlessness and rejectionThe power of personal therapy to guide her healing journey, which allowed Christine to finally tell her story

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  • Best Of: Celebrating LGBTQ+ Pride Month

    Best Of: Celebrating LGBTQ+ Pride Month

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    In the United States, the month of June is Pride Month. To celebrate LGBTQ+ stories and experiences, we’re sharing excerpts from two past interviews with guests who identify as gay and whose personal stories have navigated self-acceptance and belonging in cultures that marginalized and excluded them—and, how their experiences shaped them as storytellers.


    Eduardo Placer is a story doula, coach, former performer, and the CEO and Founder of Fearless Communicators, a dynamic speaking and communications coaching business. He coaches people on becoming effective communicators by providing them with the tools to lead and deliver their message to an audience. Listen to our full 2022 interview with Eduardo here.


    Wade Rouse is the USA TODAY, Publishers Weekly, and internationally best-selling author of 13 books, including four memoirs and nine novels. He joined us in 2022 to discuss his memoir, *Magic Season: A Son’s Story*, which chronicles his upbringing as a self-described “queer kid” in rural Missouri in the 1970s and how baseball gave him and his abusive father a chance to reconcile and heal later in life. Listen to the full interview with Wade here. 


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  • How play builds, and reveals, psychological safety

    How play builds, and reveals, psychological safety

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    Play is essential for healthy human growth and development. But despite the benefits, many adults lose their sense of play. Why?


    Gary Ware is a Strategic Play Consultant, corporate facilitator, keynote speaker, certified coach, and author who helps individuals and teams integrate play into their daily business. He was featured as one of the Top 100 HR influencers of 2021 by the Engagedly HR software platform, and is the author of the book, Playful Rebellion: Maximize Workplace Success Through The Power of Play.


    After 14 years in the corporate world, Gary’s experience with burnout led him to discover that his life, and his work, were missing play. With benefits ranging from improved mood, increased creativity, more self-confidence, and psychological trust, today, Gary uses the power of applied improvisation and other playful methods to help teams and organizations discover the benefits of play.


    In this interview, Gary shares his discoveries and experiences in teaching the power of play, including:

    How play creates, and preserves, crucial levels of psychological safety, especially in the workplaceThe neurochemical benefits of play on productivity, mood, and building interpersonal trustWhat a society that values play could look like—and how we can each get started

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  • The future of disability rights—and what society, as a whole, has to gain

    The future of disability rights—and what society, as a whole, has to gain

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    A car accident at age 11 left Brooke Ellison paralyzed from the neck down and ventilator-dependent. When, at 21, she graduated magna cum laude from Harvard University with a degree in cognitive neuroscience—the first student with quadriplegia to do so—she received international praise and attention. Her first book, Miracles Happen (2002), was adapted into The Brooke Ellison Story, a movie directed by the late actor, director, and activist, Christopher Reeve.


    Today, Brooke's latest memoir, Look Both Ways, returns to the story of her life through the lens of personal struggle, public policy, sociology, the future of disability rights, and what it means to be human.


    She shares what it has meant to be a person living with a disability for the last 31 years, and affirms that our society, as a whole, has so much to gain from a world in which those with disabilities are integrated into decision-making processes, public policy, and how physical spaces are designed.


    In our conversation, Brooke and Dave discuss:

    The feeling of "feigned praise and condescension" when called "an inspiration," despite well-meaning intentionsHow perceiving inabilities of disabled persons result from "social construction," not reality What is the real, hard work of supporting those with disabilities—in a society built against them?

    Brooke Ellison, Ph.D. is an associate professor of health policy and medical ethics at Stony Brook University. She is a policy and ethics expert in stem cell research and has served on the Empire State Stem Cell Board, which designed New York’s stem cell policy. She is on the Board of Directors of the NY Civil Liberties Union and the Suffolk County Human Rights Commission.


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  • He took on police corruption. He says the system is broken—and fixable.

    He took on police corruption. He says the system is broken—and fixable.

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    Content warning: This episode discusses violent crime including homicide, the criminal justice system, natural disasters, racism, and police brutality against unarmed Black civilians.


    For 14 years, Jared Fishman served as a U.S. Department of Justice prosecutor, where he led some of America’s most complex and high-profile civil rights prosecutions involving police misconduct, hate crimes, and human trafficking. 


    He joins us to tell the true, behind-the-scenes story of his investigation of the murder of Henry Glover, an unarmed 31-year-old Black man, who was gunned down by a White police officer in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, which he chronicles in his book, Fire On The Levee: The Murder Of Henry Glover And The Search For Justice After Hurricane Katrina.


    In this interview, we discuss:

    Jared's years-long battle to hold the New Orleans Police Department accountable for police abusesThe systemic failures at the root of one of the most egregious, shocking cases of police abuse in recent historyHow one case of police abuse pushed Jared to leave Federal prosecution, altogether, and try to look for new solutionsHow prosecutors, Attorneys General, and judges can help our broken justice system—without waiting for politicians to pass legislation

    Jared Fishman is the founder and Executive Director of Justice Innovation Lab, an organization that designs data-informed solutions for a more equitable and effective justice system. He also serves as adjunct faculty at the George Washington University Law School and at Georgetown University.


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  • Yes, we can achieve gender equity. In this lifetime.

    Yes, we can achieve gender equity. In this lifetime.

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    The World Economic Forum says that we are 151 years away from achieving gender equity at work. Our guest says that gender equity is achievable in this lifetime.


    Katica Roy is a gender economist and the founder and CEO of Pipeline Equity, an award-winning analytical platform designed to help organizations improve their equity and inclusivity efforts, beyond the talk, and with real action. As the daughter of an immigrant and a refugee, Katica is driven by a passion to eradicate economic inequality and championing the rights of refugees, women, and children. 


    In this interview, Katica explains how gender equity differs from gender equality, and illustrates how framing gender equity as an economic issue, not a moral one, makes equity and inclusivity efforts nonnegotiable. She calls gender equity "a $2 trillion economic opportunity" and strives to establish data and research-based arguments to generate bipartisan, inclusive buy-in and systemic change to address equity issues in modern America.


    We answer questions like:

    What are the implications of women being paid less, taxed more, and holding greater student loan debt?How does gender equity impact men's mental health and the education of boys in 2022?What new stories could propel gender equity public policy in the coming years, and how can we help them?

    Katica is a former Global 500 global executive, programmer, data scientist, and a regular contributor to CNN, CBS, Bloomberg, Cheddar, MarketWatch, and Yahoo Finance Her advocacy and education have made her a LinkedIn Top Influencer for gender equity in 2022. She is also a member of Fast Company’s Impact Council and Bloomberg’s New Economy Forum.


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  • Best Of: Celebrating AAPI Heritage Month

    Best Of: Celebrating AAPI Heritage Month

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    In the United States, the month of May is Asian American and Pacific Islander (AAPI) Heritage Month. To celebrate AAPI heritage, we're resharing two past guests who identify as AAPI and who shared personal stories on navigating cultures and belonging—and how those influences have shaped them, their missions, and their work in the world.


    Dr. Han Ren is a licensed clinical psychologist and educator based in Austin, Texas, who joined us last October to discuss what it means to decolonize mental health. Listen to the full interview here.


    Cher Hale is the founder and director of Ginkgo PR, a public relations firm that helps historically-excluded authors, entrepreneurs, and leaders take back narratives that have traditionally been told for them, not by them, in the media. She joined us in March. Listen to the full interview here.


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  • How does EMDR heal trauma? We ask one clinical researcher—and one trauma survivor

    How does EMDR heal trauma? We ask one clinical researcher—and one trauma survivor

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    Content warning: This episode contains brief mentions of sexual, physical, and emotional violence involving children, childhood abuse, sexual abuse of a child, bullying, and substance use.


    For most of his life, Michael Baldwin was haunted by curious phobias, recurring nightmares, interpersonal relationship issues, and sudden anxieties so distressing that he would turn to substance use for relief. One day, a therapist suggested that he was suffering from the effects of trauma. He introduced Michael to EMDR, or Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing. Everything began to change.


    Michael Baldwin and Deborah L. Korn are the authors of Every Memory Deserves Respect, which tells Michael’s story as a trauma survivor and shares Deborah's clinical knowledge and expertise on what trauma is, how it affects the brain, and how EMDR therapy has been proven to help people recover from the effects of trauma with over 30 years of research and evidence.


    Deborah L. Korn is a clinical psychologist and consultant, teacher, and researcher who presents and consults internationally on the treatment of adult survivors of childhood abuse and neglect. She is on the faculty of the EMDR Institute in California and the Trauma Research Foundation in Boston. She currently serves on the editorial board of the Journal of EMDR Practice and Research.


    In this special episode, we ask, "Could EMDR therapy become the 'new story' of trauma survivorship for the nearly 70% of the population who suffer from the effects of traumatic experiences?"


    Find an EMDR therapist at EMDR International Association.


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  • Dismantling racism—through touch

    Dismantling racism—through touch

    · The New Story Is with Dave Ursillo

    Physical touch is crucial for healthy human development. Safe touch may be a key to living whole and well in our lifetimes. But what happens to those in our society who have been deprived of touch and conditioned against intimacy and connection?


    Aaron Johnson (he/him) is a facilitator, public speaker, and touch specialist who says touch can help dismantle systems of oppression and racism. As the co-founder of Holistic Resistance and Grief to Action, two black-led organizations and movements, Aaron's work holds the trauma stories of Black people and strives to make touch a radical action to interrupt oppressive systems in modern American society. He is a graduate of the California Institute of the Arts and blends teaching, singing, photography, filmmaking, minimalism, and more to create intimate experiences of creativity to transcend oppressive forces.


    In this interview, Aaron shares how touch facilitates a holistic connection with nature, ourselves, and one another. He says that being creative in our healing journeys is an antidote to oppressive forces, from internalized oppression to forceful repression in modern American society.


    Aaron is also the creator of the Chronically UnderTouched (CUT) Project, an initiative to support Black men and People of the Global Majority—people of color—to access healthy, nourishing, platonic touch in a culture in the United States that denies access to touch.


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