Episodes
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Nise tells us about cracking, scrollers, phishing, account takeovers, and ruining some people's lives. Later he tells us about how AOL led to him finding his passion for marketing and a book he has been writing.
Guest: Nise (â https://appliedcuriositys.com/â )
Host: Steve Stonebraker
Audio Editor: Sam Fox
CoverArt: Created by Broast (â â â â â https://broast.orgâ â â â â ), original idea by LampGold.
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â â â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â â â â â â â @brakertechâ â â â â
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Donate - â â â â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â â â â
Contact the Host -â â â â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â â â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â â â â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â â â â â â â https://aolunderground.com/community/â â â--
Other
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Sam tells us about his experience using AOL UK while coming of age in England. His fascination with visual art began here and he fell in love with FDO (Form Definition Operator) generated content. We then nerd out on how exactly cartoon episodes are produced.
Guest: Sam Fox (He's the new Audio Editor for this Podcast!)
Host: Steve Stonebraker
CoverArt: Created by Broast (â â â â https://broast.orgâ â â â ), original idea by LampGold.
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â â â â â @brakertechâ â â â
Reddit - â â â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â â â
Merch - â â â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â â â
Donate - â â â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â â â
Contact the Host -â â â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
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Other
Check out my wife's Etsy shop - https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker
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Broast tells us about writing password stealers, password crackers, deploying botnets, finding exploits, and hacking Digital Gangster and other forums.
Guest: Broast
Host: Steve Stonebraker
CoverArt: Created by Broast (â â â https://broast.orgâ â â ), original idea by LampGold.
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â â â @brakertechâ â â
Reddit - â â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â â
Merch - â â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â â
Donate - â â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â â
Contact the Host -â â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â â â https://aolunderground.com/community/âCredits:
Audio Editing by Sam Fox - â â sam.fox.london@gmail.com
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Pen tells us about Pen Tools, a password stealer detector he wrote, user interfaces, the warez scene and more. We jump around a bit in this episode (between AOL and not AOL). Also, unfortunately the interview was cut short.
Guest: Pen
Host: Steve Stonebraker
CoverArt: Created by Broast (â â https://broast.orgâ â ), original idea by LampGold.
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â @brakertechâ â
Reddit - â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â
Merch - â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â
Donate - â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â
Contact the Host -â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â https://aolunderground.com/community/Credits:
Audio Editing by Sam Fox - â sam.fox.london@gmail.com
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Single talks about how the AOL hacking group NV2 formed, carding, and when the group swatted their way to the top.
Guest: Single
Host: Steve Stonebraker
CoverArt: Created by Broast (â https://broast.orgâ ), original idea by LampGold.
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Single
Follow Single on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/devastatorbrand/
Single's Graffiti Accessory Brand - â https://www.devastatorbrand.com/
The missing link (app Single made for AOL) - https://justinakapaste.com/the-missing-link/
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â @AOLUndergroundâ â @brakertechâ
Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/
Merch - â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ
Donate - â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ
Contact the Host -â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
https://discord.gg/p3ol â https://aolunderground.com/community/--
Other
Check out my wife's Etsy shop - â https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker
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Erci Stern (from parts one and two) tells us her origin story. We review in depth how she battled users that were uploading Warez on a customer's Anonymous FTP site and also hear a funny story about Slingo. She takes us through her entire career at AOL where she started in Site Reliability (Systems Administration/Operations), moving to Information Security/QA, and then went into project management. We also cover her life after AOL where she went back to System Administration and has been a champion of security along the way throughout her career. Other topics include Configuration Management, Security Certifications, passion projects, etc.. Erici also shares with us her experience mentoring at "Girls who Code" and advice for girls that want to go into IT.
Guest:
Erci SternHost: Steve Stonebraker
CoverArt: Created by Broast (https://broast.org), original idea by LampGold.
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â @brakertechâ â
Reddit - â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â
Merch - â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â
Donate - â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â
Contact the Host -â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â https://aolunderground.com/community/--
Other
Check out my wife's Etsy shop - â https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker
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Staff from 1987-2007 (with over 35 years combined experience) talk about their experience while working at AOL. You will hear about the Eworld, Tandylink, Commodore 64, Telnet, RAINMAN, Jay Levitt, Hackers, Q-Guides, scalability issues, and more.
Guests:
Craig Braquet Jan DeLucien Bryan Teague Erci SternHost: Steve Stonebraker
CoverArt: Created by Broast (https://broast.org), original idea by LampGold.
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Craig Braquet
Craig's famous Quora post - https://bit.ly/3OOeijL
All of Us:
https://bit.ly/3JibxWA https://allofus.nih.gov/about/who-we-are/all-us-participant-partners?page=1--
Jan DeLucien
Surviving a brain injury, my story --Trying to be Virtuous
About Brain Injury Services - An Interview
Click here to donate your brain (posthumously, or course)
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Bryan Teague
https://bryanteague.com
https://medium.com/@bryanlteague
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Erci Stern
Fancy Cats and Dogs Rescue - I foster for them each year and adopt all my personal pets from them. They are a truly caring and amazing animal rescue organization. www.fancycats.org
Doctors without Borders - I give to this organization because there are so many people around the world who don't have access to western style medicine for whom what we consider simple procedures would be life altering benefits. https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â @brakertechâ â
Reddit - â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â
Merch - â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â
Donate - â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â
Contact the Host -â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â https://aolunderground.com/community/ -
Staff from 1987-2007 (with over 35 years combined experience) talk about their experience while working at AOL. You will hear about the Quantum Link hacker, Jenny C, the "Fives" hack, outages, how multiple departments were formed, the Habitat game, What made AOL special, Honeywell Multics, innovation, auditoriums, Tandy Link, Apple Link, and more.
Guests:
Craig Braquet Jan DeLucien Bryan Teague Erci SternHost: Steve Stonebraker
CoverArt: Created by Broast (https://broast.org), original idea by LampGold.
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Craig Braquet
Craig's famous Quora post - https://bit.ly/3OOeijL
All of Us:
https://bit.ly/3JibxWA https://allofus.nih.gov/about/who-we-are/all-us-participant-partners?page=1--
Jan DeLucien
Surviving a brain injury, my story --Trying to be Virtuous
About Brain Injury Services - An Interview
Click here to donate your brain (posthumously, or course)
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Bryan Teague
https://bryanteague.com
https://medium.com/@bryanlteague
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Erci Stern
Fancy Cats and Dogs Rescue - I foster for them each year and adopt all my personal pets from them. They are a truly caring and amazing animal rescue organization. www.fancycats.org
Doctors without Borders - I give to this organization because there are so many people around the world who don't have access to western style medicine for whom what we consider simple procedures would be life altering benefits. https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â @brakertechâ â
Reddit - â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â
Merch - â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â
Donate - â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â
Contact the Host -â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â https://aolunderground.com/community/--
Other
Check out my wife's Etsy shop - â https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker
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Surf Kahuna (Ryan Chapman) finishes his origin story and what he learned from it. Then Steve and Ryan talk espionage, multiple Advanced Persistent Threats, retro gaming, password spraying, ransomware, and what has helped Ryan be successful in Infosec.
Guest: Surf Kahuna/Mac Diablo (Ryan Chapman)
Host: Steve Stonebraker
CoverArt: Created by Broast (https://broast.org), original idea by LampGold.
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Ryan Chapman
Follow Ryan on Twitter - @rj_chap
Ryan's Blog - https://incidentresponse.training/
Author of SANS FOR528 "Ransomware for Incident Responders" - for528.com/course
Instructor of SANS FOR610: Reverse-Engineering Malware: Malware Analysis Tools and Techniques - https://www.sans.org/cyber-security-courses/reverse-engineering-malware-malware-analysis-tools-techniques/
Part of the @CactusCon crew - https://www.cactuscon.com/
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â @brakertechâ â
Reddit - â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â
Merch - â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â
Donate - â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â
Contact the Host -â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â https://aolunderground.com/community/ -
Surf Kahuna (Ryan Chapman) shares his origin story about a series of events that occurred on AOL that rocked his world and led him down the path of digital forensics.
Guest: Surf Kahuna/Mac Diablo (Ryan Chapman)
Host: Steve Stonebraker
CoverArt: Created by Broast (https://broast.org), original idea by LampGold.
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Ryan Chapman
Follow Ryan on Twitter - @rj_chap
Ryan's Blog - https://incidentresponse.training/
Author of SANS FOR528 "Ransomware for Incident Responders" - for528.com/course
Instructor of SANS FOR610: Reverse-Engineering Malware: Malware Analysis Tools and Techniques - https://www.sans.org/cyber-security-courses/reverse-engineering-malware-malware-analysis-tools-techniques/
Part of the @CactusCon crew
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â @brakertechâ â
Reddit - â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â
Merch - â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â
Donate - â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â
Contact the Host -â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â https://aolunderground.com/community/ -
hiwind starting programming at a very early age, became addicted to it, and somehow found a way to keep programming and being on AOL without ever having a computer of his own until his first job. His passion is palpable! Be sure to check out https://www.hiwind.me/ and click his on his greetz!
Guest: hiwind
Host: Steve Stonebraker
CoverArt: Created by Broast (https://broast.org), original idea by LampGold.
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Follow hiwind on Twitter - https://twitter.com/hiwindiest
hiwind's retro website - https://www.hiwind.me/
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â @brakertechâ â
Reddit - â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â
Merch - â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â
Donate - â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â
Contact the Host -â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â https://aolunderground.com/community/ -
Chat with @keeb about his keeb.bas file, his first phishing website, creating chat coms in any text field, high school programming, and his career in business development. This lead to working at Docker, Rancher Labs, at Kentik
Guest: keeb
Host: Steve Stonebraker
CoverArt: Created by Broast (https://broast.org), original idea by LampGold.
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Follow keeb on Twitter - https://twitter.com/nickstinemates
keeb's website - https://keeb.dev/
Kentik - https://kentik.com
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â @brakertechâ â
Reddit - â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â
Merch - â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â
Donate - â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â
Contact the Host -â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â https://aolunderground.com/community/-------
Episode chapters
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:02 First time got on AOL
00:02:46 How did you find the scene?
00:03:24 First programs used
00:05:54 Laggers
00:06:29 Collaboration
00:08:10 dos32.bas and OCX files
00:09:24 Open source programming
00:10:06 Keeb.bas
00:11:37 Looking back at old code
00:12:48 Spamming and Operator Accounts
00:14:37 Did you release any of your programs?
00:15:22 Keebs Cookies
00:20:26 Spamming
00:21:59 First phishing website
00:23:55 Creating website with AOL UI
00:29:10 Chat com in any text editor
00:29:59 College Credit VB Programming Class
00:33:41 Background on Extra Classes
00:35:42 High School Programming
00:35:54 Post AOL
00:38:03 Career in Business Development
00:39:00 Working at Docker
00:43:01 Docker Origin Story
00:44:28 First Version of Docker
00:45:13 Kubernetes
00:46:18 Openstack
00:49:43 Rancher Labs
00:50:20 Kentik
00:56:02 Synthetic Testing
01:01:17 Apple Password 128 characters
01:03:57 Goodbye
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z0ne is our first return guest! Topics: Room laggers (cloners), room takeovers, Getting arrested. Spamming for signups, Spin-off accounts, chat room monitoring MP3 players, cracking, AIM warning, Nerdcore, child exploitation material takedowns, torrenting, operational security (opsec44) - bug bounty bartering
Guests: z0ne
Host: Steve Stonebraker
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â @brakertechâ â
Reddit - â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â
Merch - â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â
Donate - â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â
Contact the Host -â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â https://aolunderground.com/community/--
Other
Check out my wife's Etsy shop - â https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker
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We cover the future of ReAOL, using different versions of the AOL client, how you can help the project, thank you list (to people that helped with the project), and depression.
Guest: PoSsE4uS
Host: Steve Stonebraker
Show Notes: https://aolunderground.com/episode-extras/posse4us/
Shout out: @pad for notifying the masses about the ReAOL project
Use ReAOL: https://discord.gg/reaol
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Mental Health Resources:
Canada - https://bit.ly/3OC2nWw
USA - https://bit.ly/3bgGdKW
UK - https://bit.ly/3bsBJ4a
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â @brakertechâ â
Reddit - â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â
Merch - â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â
Donate - â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â
Contact the Host -â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â https://aolunderground.com/community/ -
Chat with tagz and shellz about being a noob, getting Sub7âd, the death of AOL, rap battles, deltrees, a credit card trojan, exploits, swatting, and silence the blind hacker
Guests: tagz and shellz
Host: Steve Stonebraker
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â @brakertechâ â
Reddit - â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â
Merch - â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â
Donate - â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â
Contact the Host -â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â https://aolunderground.com/community/--
Other
Check out my wife's Etsy shop - â https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker
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PoSsE4uS reveals his origin story and the genesis of the ReAOL project
Guest: PoSsE4uS
Host: Steve Stonebraker
Show Notes: https://aolunderground.com/episode-extras/posse4us/
Shout out: @pad for notifying the masses about the ReAOL project
Use ReAOL: https://discord.gg/reaol
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Mental Health Resources:
Canada - https://bit.ly/3OC2nWw
USA - https://bit.ly/3bgGdKW
UK - https://bit.ly/3bsBJ4a
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â @brakertechâ â
Reddit - â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â
Merch - â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â
Donate - â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â
Contact the Host -â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â https://aolunderground.com/community/ -
cam0 explains how he took over Burger King and Jeep's twitter accounts
Show Notes: https://aolunderground.com/episode-extras/cam0/
Guest: cam0
Host: Steve Stonebraker
Audio and Sound: Podcast edited and mastered by Charlie Clark, https://www.fiverr.com/chuckaudio
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â @brakertechâ â
Reddit - â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â
Merch - â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â
Donate - â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â
Contact the Host -â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â https://aolunderground.com/community/ -
cam0 talks about how he hacked Paris Hilton's T-Mobile Sidekick, prison, and hacking the police department
Show Notes: https://aolunderground.com/episode-extras/cam0/
Guest: cam0
Host: Steve Stonebraker
Audio and Sound: Podcast edited and mastered by Charlie Clark, https://www.fiverr.com/chuckaudio
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â @brakertechâ â
Reddit - â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â
Merch - â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â
Donate - â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â
Contact the Host -â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â https://aolunderground.com/community/ -
cam0 talks about how he had socially engineered AOL employees, hacked Merlin, deployed trojans, ran botnets, and gained access to the Ewoks private key
Show Notes: https://aolunderground.com/episode-extras/cam0/
Guest: cam0
Host: Steve Stonebraker
Audio and Sound: Podcast edited and mastered by Charlie Clark, https://www.fiverr.com/chuckaudio
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â @brakertechâ â
Reddit - â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â
Merch - â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â
Donate - â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â
Contact the Host -â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â https://aolunderground.com/community/ -
Emerge tells us about when he cracked AOL conference calls and pranked called some folks. Later he talks about his startup, web3, and the crazy land of NFTs.
Show Notes: https://aolunderground.com/episode-extras/emerge/
Guest: Emerge
Host: Steve Stonebraker
Audio and Sound: https://www.fiverr.com/dimaog
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AOL Underground Podcast
Follow us on twitter - â â @AOLUndergroundâ â â â @brakertechâ â
Reddit - â https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/â
Merch - â â https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shopâ â
Donate - â â https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUndergroundâ â
Contact the Host -â â https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/â â
Reconnect with old AOLers -
â https://discord.gg/p3olâ â â https://aolunderground.com/community/ - Show more
