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In this episode of Audience Connection, Lydia Chan sits down with Kristen Berke, VP of Entertainment and Branded Content Partnerships at LA Times Studio, to unpack a campaign that on paper shouldn't have worked, and absolutely did.
The campaign, Diaries of Transformation, was produced for enterprise AI company Publicis Sapient, a brand whose website talks about agents, production-grade software, and IT automation. Instead of a product tutorial, Kristen's team put out an open call for filmmakers, received over 100 submissions, and selected five short documentaries (a wildlife photographer, the last of the lighthouse keepers, an environmentalist) where the brand appeared only in the title card as a co-executive producer. No product placement, no features, no paid media. Kristen traces how branded content has shifted from "presented by" to genuine EP credit, why she leaned on editorial's passion-point data as a "guiding light," and how the films' earned reach came almost entirely from a fiercely supportive filmmaker community resharing each other's work. She's candid that it was partly "lightning in a bottle," but the framework is turnkey: start with the brand's four-to-seven-word mission, then find the human story that ties back to it.
With a 147-year-old newsroom and 45 Pulitzers behind her, Kristen makes the case that trust, not scale, is the real product. This one is for brand leaders, marketers, and filmmakers weighing whether to invert the usual model and spend on the story rather than the impressions. Her closing takeaway: bigger risks, greater rewards.
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Lydia Chan sits down with Tori Jackson, Senior Manager of Partnerships and Commercial Strategy at Sundial Media and Technology Group — home to Essence, Refinery29 and Beauty Con — to explore how brands earn real loyalty from multicultural audiences they've historically underinvested in and misunderstood.
Tori's central argument is a refusal to flatten: a Black woman from Harlem and a Black woman from Kansas City are not the same consumer, and a strategy that can't tell them apart has already lost both. Drawing on a deliberately non-linear career — Harlem, music labels, fashion PR, cannabis, and now multicultural media — she makes the case for "pick a lane and stay in it," arguing that Black women are simultaneously the most cynical and the most loyal consumers, and that any drift from who you said you were reads as betrayal. She holds up Skims as a masterclass in reaching audiences with a general distaste for the face of the brand but who "can't deny the product," dismantles the "cultural moments trap" (the Juneteenth-then-silence pattern), and champions diversity in the room over diversity in the asset. Her creative test is refreshingly human: will someone cry? One participant said a campaign call "felt like a therapy session" — exactly the connection she's chasing.
With Black spending power near $1.6 trillion yet only roughly 5% of marketing spend reaching Black, Latino and Asian audiences (per a 2023 report), the cost of getting this wrong is enormous. For marketers, brand leaders, and strategists, it's a clear-eyed playbook on segmentation, consistency, and building for longevity over quick hits.
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Oliver Atkinson sits down with media pioneer Bill Harvey, creator of Resonance Media Theory (RMT), to explore why understanding human motivation beats chasing attention, and how a breakthrough audience measurement system is reshaping the future of marketing, media and AI.
Bill shares the remarkable story behind a lifelong quest that began when he experienced flow state as a child performer and led to decades of research into how audiences really make decisions. Discover how a project that started with 13,000 psychological descriptors was refined to 265 “value signals” that predict what people connect with. He also unpacks why media and creative should never be separated, comparing media to the rocket and creative to the payload. The conversation dives into Wharton’s largest-ever neuroscience study, where RMT proved a stronger predictor of brain synchrony than three out of four EEG measures, challenging long-held assumptions about attention, persuasion and effectiveness.
With marketers under increasing pressure to deliver measurable outcomes, this episode offers a fresh perspective on why motivation matters more than demographics, why context can reduce wasted media spend, and how future AI systems may need to understand human feelings before they can truly help people.
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Oliver Atkinson sits down with speaker, consultant and author Jenni Field to explore why so many people inside organisations have quietly stopped believing their leaders, and what it actually takes to earn that belief back.
Drawing on her book Nobody Believes You, Jenni traces how trust erodes not through one dramatic moment but through small broken promises that accumulate over time. She explains why low engagement scores are almost always a trust problem in disguise, why flooding teams with more communication when confidence is already shaky tends to make things worse, and why you simply cannot message your way out of a credibility problem. She also introduces the "royal visit" effect: every interaction a leader carries more weight than they realise, which means showing up with integrity, support and genuine vision has to be a deliberate choice, not an afterthought.
The conversation goes further into why "authenticity" has become a slippery and sometimes weaponised word, what genuine behaviour actually looks like day to day, and why AI-written leadership messages risk widening the very distance they are meant to close.
With Gallup finding only 21 percent of US employees strongly trust their organisation's leadership, and that number falling steadily since 2019, this episode is full of practical thinking for leaders, communicators and culture-builders who want to guide people through change without losing them along the way.
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What if the biggest mistake brands make isn't saying the wrong thing, but not understanding the story their audience is already living?
Oliver Atkinson sits down with Kristian A. Alomá, PhD, Founder & CEO at Threadline, whose work on narrative economy explores what's really being exchanged between brands and the people they serve: not information, not value propositions, but identity, meaning and belonging.
Kristian traces his path from pharmaceutical advertising, where a doctor rejected a concept because he hated the model's shoes, to the insight that changed how he thinks about marketing altogether. He breaks down the difference between story and narrative, explains why the audience has to be the hero (not the brand), and shares his STORY framework for understanding what people are genuinely reaching for when they buy something.
Along the way there are memorable examples: RadioShack's "You've Got Questions, We've Got Answers" campaign and why a good promise made to the wrong infrastructure falls apart fast; Southwest Airlines and what happens when you trust frontline people to act like humans; and the simple but powerful idea that you're not selling the cake, you're selling the ingredients people use to make it themselves.
In a market flooded with AI-generated content and brittle trust, this episode gives marketers, creatives, leaders and internal comms teams a practical way to build loyalty, sharpen positioning and create work people can genuinely see themselves in.
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In this episode, co-hosts Lydia Chan and Olly Atkinson recaps his talk at AdFest 2026 in Thailand titled "Making People Care: Storytelling in the Age of AI,” where he strapped biometric trackers on 50 unsuspecting audience members and measured their brain activity in real time. What happened next revealed something most marketers don't want to admit: the content we think is working, often isn't.
From a curiosity gap that spikes immersion in 30 seconds flat, to corporate messaging that tanks it just as fast, Olly unpacks what the neuroscience actually says about why some content sticks and most gets filtered out. Plus, a whiskey brand that ditched their assumptions, rewrote their entire creative strategy, and saw a 56% revenue jump in three months with no extra media spend.
If you create content, brief it, approve it, or sit in rooms talking about it, this one will change how you think about all of it.
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In this episode of Audience Connection, Lydia Chan sits down with Jordan P. Kelley, Director of Content and Editor-in-Chief at Aivanta, to explore what it truly means to do brand storytelling right and why so many brands are still getting it wrong.
With nearly a decade of reviewing brand-funded films and curating the programming for the Brand Storytelling Conference, Jordan shares what separates content that audiences actually choose to watch from content that simply blends into the noise. He explains why brand storytelling is not a long-form ad, how putting humans at the center of a story is the most reliable path to engagement, and why the element of choice is everything in today's on-demand world.
The conversation digs into the real tension that exists between artistic vision and brand objectives, and how the most effective players in the space are those who can bridge both. Jordan also unpacks how storytellers can build internal buy-in by reverse-engineering leadership's metrics and grafting those goals directly onto the creative work, making the case for brand storytelling in a language that resonates in the boardroom.
If you're interested in how brands can move beyond campaigns and create content that builds genuine audience affinity, or how AI and smarter measurement will reshape the future of brand storytelling, this episode is packed with insights you can take straight back to your team.
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Oliver Atkinson continues his conversation with Sandra Gaudenzi to ask a tougher question: once a story moves someone, how do you turn that moment into real change without slipping into manipulation?
Sandra reframes impact storytelling as intentional storytelling, mapping every layer from who makes the work and how the interface is designed to the conversations, communities, and campaigns that follow release. Her metaphors land hard: a single story is just one fish in an ocean of narrative change, and a brand chasing short-term persuasion is like a parent ending a supermarket tantrum through force, effective now, costly later. She also argues that behavior change needs repetition, belonging, and values that are lived consistently, not just performed in the ad.
For marketers, brand leaders, filmmakers, and strategists, this episode is a sharp guide to behavior change, long-term trust, and the kind of storytelling that shapes culture instead of merely chasing attention.
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🌐 Website: www.what-if.uk 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandragaudenzi/Follow Audience Connection Podcast:
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Oliver Atkinson sits down with interactive documentary pioneer Sandra Gaudenzi to explore why stories become more powerful when audiences stop being spectators and start becoming participants.
From the childhood moment a speck of dust made her realize perception is constructed, Sandra traces how language, culture, and media shape reality. She breaks down interactivity from branching paths to participatory spaces, then makes it tangible with a locative storytelling project that asks cyclists to record why they love a corner of London and leaves a “cloud of stories” for strangers to discover. She also shows how subtle interaction can deepen empathy, whether that means choosing when to look away in Alma or feeling another life inside Notes on Blindness.
In a world of passive scrolling and fractured attention, this episode gives marketers, filmmakers, experience designers, and communication leaders a practical lens on agency, embodiment, and why stories stick when people do more than watch.
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Lydia Chan is joined by Sabrina Talma, CEO and Co-Founder of Human Made Machine, a creative intelligence platform that helps global brands test and refine creative work before it goes to market. With clients spanning Google, the NBA, and The North Face, Sabrina brings a rare, data-backed perspective on what actually resonates with audiences — and what quietly falls flat.
Sabrina shares why most brand campaigns miss the mark from the start, and how marketers are often too close to their own work to judge it objectively. She walks through a real campaign example where two nearly identical ads targeting Gen Z in the US and China landed in completely opposite ways — and what it revealed about the danger of treating global audiences as one. She also weighs in on whether higher production value actually drives better performance, and what regional differences her team is seeing in the data.
The conversation digs into AI-generated creative, including results from a real Puma head-to-head test comparing AI and human-made ads, and why AI tends to converge on average rather than differentiate. Learn why AI personas for creative testing are not ready for prime time, drawing on both her own experiments and a Stanford and Google DeepMind study on digital twins.
If you're a marketer, creative director, or brand strategist trying to understand what makes audiences truly connect with content, this episode is packed with insights you can bring back to the team.
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To mark Neurodiversity Celebration Week, Oliver Atkinson sits down with Oliver Markeson, CEO and Co-Founder of Neurohaus, to explore why neuroinclusive design is not a niche fix but a smarter way to build calmer, clearer audience experiences that work better for everyone.
Oliver's starting point is personal. A late diagnosis made him look differently at the world around him, at the way people shop, work, and move through spaces, and ask why so much of it feels unnecessarily hard. That question became Neurohaus, and a body of work with brands like Pandora and Versace that proves neuroinclusive design isn't a niche fix. It's just a smarter design.
In this episode, he gets specific. He talks about the "triggers" that create overload, the queue barriers that send autistic shoppers turning right to avoid them, and the "glimmers" that do the opposite: small, sensory moments so well-considered they can make an airport feel genuinely playful. His core argument is disarmingly simple: reduce friction, simplify information, and stop making people raise their hand just to get a better experience.
With one in five people neurodivergent, this isn't a niche conversation. It's a commercial one. Fewer abandoned journeys, stronger retention, brands people actually trust, the business case and the human case turn out to be the same case.
If you work in marketing, design, retail, or internal comms, this one's worth your full attention.
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00:00 Introduction
04:12 One in Five Consumers Are Wired Differently
08:21 Feel It, Don't Just Learn It
21:17 Designing for the 20% Improves It for Everyone
29:39 Triggers vs. Glimmers
50:51 Avoid Othering at All Costs
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📸 @_neurohaus
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Oliver Atkinson sits down with behavioural science researcher Will Leach, founder of MindState Group and author of Marketing to MindStates, to reveal how “hot states” (MindStates) shape decisions, and how targeting the moment can lift your B2B messaging.
Will maps his MindState model, goals, motivations, regulatory fit, and triggers, showing how nine core motivations and 21 decision shortcuts can turn a fuzzy persona into a usable brief.
Hear how a hotel CMO flipped from trashing a campaign to championing it once it was framed as social proof, and why brands should be the utility belt, not Batman.
With audiences making around 35,000 decisions a day, the default response to complex messaging is to swipe past and “think about it later.” If you pitch, launch, or sell inside crowded categories and buying committees, this is your guide for measurable lift, without gimmicks.
Plus, Oliver and Will dig into the AI angle, including Bevy (behavioural intelligence), emotionally intelligent customer personas you can “ask” in meetings, and where AI helps most (and where to be careful).
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00:00 Introduction
03:22 – Mind States Over Personas
14:40 – Be the Utility Belt, Not Batman
15:45 – More Information, Less Persuasion
24:21 – The Two-Why Ladder
47:32 – Motivation vs. Manipulation
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This podcast episode features Michael Sternoff, Global Creative Director at Amazon Leo (Amazon's low-Earth orbit satellite network). Michael shares his diverse background, spanning Emmy-winning filmmaking and video game trailers, highlighting how these experiences shaped his approach to making technical concepts feel human and authentic. The discussion centers on the launch of Amazon Leo's brand film, "Countdown," which uses right-brain storytelling to showcase real-world impacts of connectivity, emphasizing authenticity through casting and rooted use cases. Michael also offers insights into brand building, prioritizing audience connection and consistent storytelling over short-term analytics, and the importance of creative resilience in a dynamic environment.
Amazon Leo: A new era of internet is coming:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPN4ik8_t0g
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Season 2 opens with hosts Lydia Chan and Oliver Atkinson looking back at the biggest lessons from Season 1 - how behavioral science and culture shaped their understanding of why certain stories connect. What began as a response to the AI wave became a deeper exploration into cultural specificity, “audience of one” thinking, and why brands are finally investing in storytellers as they move from traditional marketing into broadcasting.
They revisit insights from guests like Christine Sanders, Dr. Imran Rashid, Richard Shotton, and Dr. Paul Zak, who revealed how oxytocin, dopamine, narrative arcs, and psychographic targeting influence attention and retention. Data and science may help inform the brief, but vulnerability, emotional truth, and trusted creative execution still determine whether a story resonates.
This season levels up with new and deeper conversations on interactive content, brand communities, creativity at scale, and the science behind why stories work. Whether you're building a brand, shaping culture, or simply obsessed with great storytelling, you won’t want to miss what’s coming. Follow and join us as we unpack the craft, the science, and the future of audience connection.
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Lydia Chan speaks with Kristen Souders, Senior Director of Global Brand and Content Studio at Hitachi Vantara, to explore what it really takes to create standout storytelling in B2B tech. Kristen breaks down the evolving IT audience landscape, explaining why data leaders and IT professionals are allergic to fluff but still crave compelling narratives that make them feel seen rather than sold to. This insight challenges common assumptions about technical audiences and their relationship with emotional storytelling.
The conversation takes a compelling turn into creative taste and AI-generated content. Kristen argues that taste is empathy with standards, built through exposure, lived experiences, and crucially, failure. Discover why she believes the beauty and memory is always in the mistakes, and why those unexpected moments are what AI cannot replicate. While algorithms can show us patterns, they cannot replace the human perspective that comes from authentic storytelling and collaboration.
Kristen also shares how she builds effective creative teams by creating psychological safety and carving out weekly time for creative reviews where she asks why decisions were made rather than just correcting work. She discusses navigating conversations with leadership by focusing on goals and objectives, knowing when to hold your ground and when to problem-solve your way out of a corner. Her parting advice is powerful: algorithms can replicate patterns but not perspective, so respect your audience, protect your taste, and above all, stay curious.
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Lydia Chan sits down with Angela Siddall, Global Lead for Culture, Employer Brand and Experience at Veeam, to explore what tech professionals really want from employers today. Drawing from over 20 years of global experience, Angela shares her perspective on what drives technical talent, revealing that impact, cutting-edge technology, continuous learning, and autonomy matter more than traditional corporate perks. She emphasizes the importance of authentic storytelling and explains her view on why tech-to-tech communication often resonates more effectively than polished corporate messaging.
Discover the unconventional engagement strategies Angela has seen work for remote tech teams, including surprising examples where arcade games and virtual reality replaced traditional town halls. Learn why she believes crowdsourcing ideas directly from tech talent leads to better results than any corporate playbook could provide. Angela also shares her multi-pronged content approach for keeping different audiences engaged, from junior talent hungry for detailed guidance to senior executives who demand strategic insights delivered in seconds.
Angela offers bold predictions about how AI will reshape the talent landscape in just one to two years, not three to five. Find out why she thinks building diverse skill sets matters more than deep specialization, what the shift toward project-based work really means for employers, and how brands can demonstrate the authentic purpose that top technical talent craves in an increasingly uncertain future.
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Oliver Atkinson sits down with Dr. Gemma Calvert, Professor of Consumer Neuroscience, Nanyang Technological University and Co-Founder of Split Second Research, to decode how always-on dopamine loops, “digital amnesia,” and story structure shape attention, memory, and action, so your content sticks and drives behaviour.
Calvert maps three rewired systems, attention, memory, emotional regulation, and shows how constant interruptions (and our own self-interruptions) splinter focus, why the “Google effect” shifts recall from the head to the handset, and how teens speak more candidly to an AI interviewer than to adults. Her hooks playbook starts with movement, novelty, and ambiguity, think chimeric images that stop the brain, then earns permission for longer stories that embed in long-term memory. And her best metaphor? The shift isn’t reversible, the train has left the station, but brands can fit seatbelts: design for responsible scrolls, cue reminders, and build human, two-way relationships.
In a world where feeds deliver micro-rewards all day and single exposures rarely encode, long-form isn’t dead, it partners with snackable teasers to deepen immersion. Marketers, creatives, and leaders will leave with neuromarketing tools (eye-tracking, facial decoding, implicit tests) and a practical framework to architect recall ethically.
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Oliver Atkinson sits down with behavioral-science heavy hitter Richard Shotton to unpack the simple nudges, concreteness, distinctiveness, and smart pricing frames that help your ideas get noticed, remembered, and bought in B2B and consumer campaigns alike.
We dig into Richard’s new book, Hacking the Human Mind: The Behavioral Science Secrets Behind 17 of the World's Best Brand, referencing well-known brands as living case studies to show why distinctiveness beats differentiation and how context reshapes value, what you place next to an offer matters as much as the offer itself.
In a world of crowded feeds and content fatigue, the teams who apply behavioral science gain an unfair edge, earning attention, improving completion, and nudging real behavior change.
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Lydia Chan is joined by Braden Dragomir, filmmaker, story strategist, and founder of Untold Storytelling, to explore the intersection of authentic storytelling, brand strategy, and the science behind what makes stories stick.
Braden shares how he bridges authentic documentary storytelling with brand objectives and reveals why his team dedicates 60 percent of project time to strategy before filming begins, conducting extensive character research to find the most emotionally compelling stories rather than defaulting to safe choices like CEO profiles. He explains the science behind why our brains are wired for story and how conflict creates psychological questions that keep audiences engaged, resulting in his team achieving 60 percent completion rates on 15-minute brand documentaries.
The conversation covers practical approaches to measuring storytelling impact, including how customers who first encounter brands through storytelling are twice as cheap to convert as those from traditional marketing. Learn how brands like Yeti and Patagonia have built loyal audiences through patience and purpose—not quick wins.
Whether you're a content director, marketing leader, or communication professional struggling to convince stakeholders to invest in storytelling craft, this episode offers actionable insights on creating brand films that actually move audiences and deliver measurable results.
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Oliver Atkinson sits down with neuroscientist and ad veteran Christopher Demetrakos to unpack “Gen 3” marketing, how aligning creative to cognitive traits sparks dopamine, cuts through the brain’s ad-blocker, and drives action, not just likes.
Chris breaks down why 95–99% of decisions happen non-consciously and how the brain’s natural ad-blocker (the reticular activating system) bins generic ads while trait-tuned cues slip through.
He also shared the case study that lifted revenue 56% in three months with one tiny framing change that did most of the work; you’ll find out which and why. He also reveals how a quirky soda spot beat a celebrity-crammed Alexa ad on immersion and action, and the simple category marker that made the difference.
With attention shrinking, and budgets under scrutiny, every wasted impression is expensive. Marketers, creatives, and leaders will learn how targeting cognitive traits lifts the actions that matter, clicks, sign-ups, and sales, by pairing the right cues with the right minds and measuring immersion to prove it.
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