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The bonefish boys each share five of their favorite "outsider" releases of the year (10:10). They also chat about year-end list culture, Spotify wrapped, some honorable mentions, and more.
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We go deep on perhaps the most controversial Animal Collective album, Danse Manatee. A product of the band's burgeoning live act, Danse was made by the same trio that created Merriweather Post Pavilion and Painting With. Beloved by some, reviled by others, this record set the tone for the group's modus operandi going forward, one characterized by experimentation, collaboration, and the relentless desire to create.
Also discussed: Geologist's newly announced solo album, the end of Pitchfork Fest, and of course, Bonefish Rec's.
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We're joined by superhero drummer and multi-instrumentalist Jeremy Hyman (11:25) to discuss his time playing with Animal Collective, Avey Tare's Slasher Flicks, Ponytail, Boredoms, Dan Deacon, and also his solo music.
Christian and Justin also look back on the 10th anniversary of Enter the Slasher House, the power trio record Jeremy recorded with Avey Tare and Angel Deradoorian.
Bonefish Recommends:Derecho by Photay
Wilted Superstition Engaged in Copulation by Širom
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Our halloween miniseries returns with a deep dive into Avey Tare's underrated swampy solo debut Down There (23:33). We also discuss Panda Bear's new album news including songs "Defense" and "Virginia Tech" (7:26), and bask in autumnal vibes by recommending some obscure tunes in another installment of Bonefish Rec's.
Bonefish Rec's:
WAWA by Brodka
Die Grüne Reise by A.R. & Machines
Watussi (James Holden Remix) by Harmonia
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Bonefish returns for spooky season, where we hang with the dissident filmmaker/artist Danny Perez and talk his cult classic visual album ODDSAC (15:53). We go deep on one of the best things in the AC universe. Also discussed: horror films and Bonefish recs. Happy spookin’!
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We conclude our Panda Bear series with BUOYS, the lowkey 6th album from Noah Lennox (06:50). We talk about dad trap, autotune, process over result, and how Buoys now sounds like a detour compared to the "reset" Noah intended it to be at the time.
Also discussed: our first Bonefish grill review, and the latest installment of Bonefish Recs (03:00)
Floating Mountains by Soshi TakedaDysnomia by Dawn of Midi
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Meme-master and Animal Collective head Ian Ostaszewski (aka Jetski) joins us (12:23) to discuss the underrated 2018 Panda Bear record A DAY WITH THE HOMIES (25:00). Topics: the vinyl mix versus digital mix, uncleared samples, shepard tones, AC fan art/memes, and another installment of Bonefish Recs. Christian recommends Comradely Objects by Horse Lords while Justin recommends Talàn by Polish guitarist/experimentalist Raphael Rogiński.
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Our series on Panda Bear continues with a deep dive on Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper (8:18), Noah’s maximal fourth solo album. We talk power-clashing, breakbeats, synth mayhem, Rihanna shoutouts, multiple noahs, death and rebirth, going crooner mode, and how this era was the capstone to Panda Bear’s imperial run. Also, we offer some listening recommendations with another edition of Bonefish Recs (2:24).
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The Expanding Universe by Laurie Spiegel
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The Bonefish boys have returned with a new interview with Young Jesus, the project of John Rossiter—and his collaborator, multi-instrumentalist and musical guru Shahzad Ismaily—about the new album The Fool, out now via Saddle Creek (19:00). Topics discussed include confronting shame, cold emails, permaculture, Kanye West, Denis Johnson, canine olfaction, and self belief.
The boys also discuss "Vampire Tongues," the new Avey Tare & Panda Bear track (5:00), as well as offering some album recommendations of their own in the second installment of Bonefish Recommends (08:12)
"Summer" by Pub
Einsjäger und Siebenjäger by Popol Vuh
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Justin is moving across the country this week so we're unlocking part 2 of our deep dive on Panda Bear's plunderphonics masterpiece Person Pitch. Enjoy!
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More like Alsatian Damn!! Am I right??
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Christian and Justin log on with one half of the Jokermen podcast, Mr. Ian Grant, to revisit Panda Bear’s solo album TOMBOY (14:55). One of the most hyped albums of the 20th century, Tomboy saw our guy Noah drop the soupy, lo-fi samples of Person Pitch for something more direct, ethereal and darker than its predecessor.
Also discussed: The upcoming Sung Tongs live album, the new segment Bonefish Recommends, Tomboy as the twilight of the blog rock era, 2011, and of course, The Beach Boys. Check out Jokermen’s latest season dedicated to The Beach Boys, it rules.
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Two decades ago today, Animal Collective released their fifth album, a collection of "tongue songs" that proved to be a massive vibe shift and level-up that solidified the band's direction and put them on the cultural map.
This week, Christian and Justin go deep on Avey Tare and Panda Bear's enduring masterwork Sung Tongs, the primordial siren song of innocence, friendship, love and peace. They discuss the evolution of this era of songs, the music of 2004, iconic Youtube clips, letting go, and which Outkast song is a spiritual cousin to the album.Can you believe this album is as far away from 2024 as 1984 was to 2004? 🤯 What are some of your favorite moments? Do you think they recorded a studio version of Covered in Frogs?
Early Live versions of Sung Tongs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA6oYqvz6c8
Live @ Other Music 8/16/04: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EukueEjfPnk
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The album that made lots of millennials go buy a sampler, Person Pitch might be the most influential album in the Animal Collective universe. Released 17 years ago, it’s a swampy zoo of sounds that mixed hip hop sampling techniques with 60s pop vocals to make something uniquely 21st century. Christian and Justin talk about the primitive, revolutionary nature of the Panda Bear solo record, its samples, and how it’s maybe not even his best album? The boys also chat a tad about the new Vampire Weekend record, Only God Was Above Us.
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Part two of our conversation with Brian DeGraw, visual artist and founding member of Gang Gang Dance. He discusses art he's made for Animal Collective, including the Painting with covers, and an as-yet-unfinished tour documentary.
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Christian and Justin chat with founding Gang Gang Dance member Brian DeGraw (13:04) about the early 00s experimental scene in New York City that included groups like Animal Collective and Black Dice—an alternate history of Meet Me in the Bathroom.
They discuss moving from DC to NYC in '98, being a Manhattan band in a Brooklyn scene, feeling unattached to solo work, piano playing as meditation, and writing music for film. This episode includes snippets of unreleased solo music from DeGraw.
Other topics include record-breaking drum circles, cruise ship concerts during a solar eclipse, and how a freak tragedy years ago birthed a well of creativity for Brian and his friends.
Prior to the interview, the boys discuss Shabaka's new single featuring Floating Points and Laraaji, which Animal Collective record would work as a Broadway stage adaptation, what the AC boys are up to at the moment, and more.
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Episode 22: Strawberry Jam Deep Dive
The boys go long on maybe the best AC album of all time: Strawberry Jam, the explosive 7th album from Avey Tare, Panda Bear, Deakin and Geologist. Christian and Justin also discuss 2007 as a crossroads for indie rock, steel drums, samples, some casual Beatles comparisons, salvia, and Green Day?
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In this episode we chat with electronic artist and Animal Collective superfan Maral (10:13), who opened for Panda Bear & Sonic Boom and Avey Tare for their 2023 west coast dates. We talk about how she fell in love with Strawberry Jam, how the band has influenced her sonic journey, and how she found her place in music.
Also discussed: Panda Bear & Sonic Boom's Honda commercial placement, Pizza Hut and Crayola, PB's interview with the Ion Pack, Iranian folk, AC fandom, Live AC bootlegs, fat beats, and more.
Watch the video for Maral's new song out this week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmHUwx3xsMU
Listen to Maral's compilation of live Animal Collective bootlegs for Dublab here:
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This week the bonefish boys take a look at Avey Tare's 3rd solo album, "Cows on Hourglass Pond," which turned 5 this year.
They also discuss some upcoming new music from the likes of MGMT, Vampire Weekend, Amen Dunes and more.
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The Bonefish Boys go deep on Animal Collective's magnum opus—giving a song by song breakdown, discussing early live versions, samples and recording techniques used, and more!
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