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Peter Garrett was not only the lead singer for one of Australia's most iconic bands, he has spent his life trying to make a difference. He has achieved so much, beginning with protests against Vietnam War and apartheid, to playing a leading role in environmental and anti-nuclear movements, to deciding to join the Australian Labor Party and make change from the inside as a government minister.
In this chat he shares some of what he has done and learnt over those decades of activism, and then, how he is bringing those experiences together to make space for public debate around AUKUS. This UK-US-Australia submarine deal is set to cost Australians more than $360 billion and yet neither the parliament nor the country have had a serious debate about this decision or contemplated alternatives.
Peter talks us through what the people's inquiry is and how it works - and if you are listening and curious you can visit its website to find out more, and even put in a submission to have your voice heard: https://aukuspublicinquiry.com/.
In the chat we talk about Peter's book, which shares more of what Peter has done in both music and politics. Its called Blue Blue Sky and you can find out more and buy it here: https://petergarrett.com.au/big-blue-sky/.
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For more on the books and Amanda’s writing, have a look at:
Amanda’s website - https://amandatattersall.com/
Conscious Tribes: thinking differently about making a difference - here and via Hardie Grant
People Power in Cities - here and via Oxford Uni Press
On Substack - https://substack.com/@amandatattersall
On Medium - https://amandatatts.medium.com/
And - her much earlier book about coalition building - Power in Coalition and via Cornell Uni Press
Amanda is on Socials here:
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amandatattersall.bsky.social
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We jump on the World Cup band wagon to talk about what team support and our collective enthusiasm for it tells us about organisations, associational life and democracy.
Of course, there is plenty to chat about given all the political interference in these games - and we do talk about Trump and his sporting "knowledge" - but we focus on what we know, the analogies and lessons about strong and weak organisations and whether there are lessons for us all in how we make change.
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For more about Samuel:
Personal site: https://www.samuelmchu.com
The Campaign for Hong Kong: https://www.thecampaignforhongkong.org
Democracy in Flight: https://www.democracyinflight.org
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuelmchu
Twitter/X: https://x.com/samuelmchu
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/samuelmchu
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For more about Amanda:
Personal site: https://amandatattersall.com/
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
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Her new books are called People Power in Cities & Conscious Tribes: thinking differently about making a difference.
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Anna Funder is one of Australia's most successful and accomplished writers. She has used her craft to explore power abuse and people's response, whether through stories about life under the Stasi in East Germany, the rise of Hitler, or by giving voice to the agency of Eileen O'shaughnessy - the wife of George Orwell. In telling new stories about power she has challenged the narratives of the powerful.
In this conversation we explore how her writing is an act of change making, but also what the perspective of a writer might offer to those who seek to make change. Its a celebration of the power of all of us - our ordinary extraordinariness. She also shares how the kind of everyday outrage that we all experience has effected her in particular, driving her to advocate for writing and against the wanton content stealing that is enabling AI and the Tech Bros to make money.
Photo credit: Michele Aboud.
Anna will be part of an Australian speaking tour in August 2026, dates and tickets can be found here: https://thinkable.events/tours/an-evening-with-anna-funder.
You can find out more about Anna's books here:
https://www.annafunder.com/
Anna's closing address at the 2025 Writers Festival, that we mention in the podcast, is here.
For more on ChangeMakers check us out:
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For more on the books and Amanda’s writing, have a look at:
Amanda’s website - https://amandatattersall.com/
Conscious Tribes: thinking differently about making a difference - here and via Hardie Grant
People Power in Cities - here and via Oxford Uni Press
On Substack - https://substack.com/@amandatattersall
On Medium - https://amandatatts.medium.com/
And - her much earlier book about coalition building - Power in Coalition and via Cornell Uni Press
Amanda is on Socials here:
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amandatattersall.bsky.social
Threads: https://www.threads.com/@amandatattersall
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@amanda.tattersall
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The Prime Minister of the Labour Party in the UK just resigned, and looks set to be replaced by Andy Burnham.
It got us thinking, what can you change (and not change) when you change leaders? We aren't particularly focused on the specifics of the UK situation - but we wanted to reflect broadly on what it means for organisations to change leaders, and what it takes to change organisational culture, practice and impact in the process.
Amanda initiated this digest, having just spent time in the UK and being from Australia, where removing Prime Ministers is a kind of sport. Samuel chips in reflecting on the culture of political parties in the US and organisations he has been part of.
In the conversation Amanda mentions two books, they are:
People Power in Cities - order it via here - (which talks about the power of failure in strategy)
Conscious Tribes - which you can pre-order now (and has the story about the school in it)
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For more about Samuel:
Personal site: https://www.samuelmchu.com
The Campaign for Hong Kong: https://www.thecampaignforhongkong.org
Democracy in Flight: https://www.democracyinflight.org
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuelmchu
Twitter/X: https://x.com/samuelmchu
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/samuelmchu
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samuelmchu
For more about Amanda:
Personal site: https://amandatattersall.com/
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amandatattersall.bsky.social
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Leisel Jones is an Australian household name. She is a champion swimmer with 3 Olympic Gold medals and participated in four Olympics. In her post-Olympic career she has become a powerful advocate, lifting the lid on the kind of pressures and pain that are put onto young hopeful Olympians and sharing her own mental health struggles.
She has written about these stories with Felicity McLean in the book Body Lengths.
This is how host Amanda Tattersall met Leisel - they were both invited to speak at the Albury Winter Solstice event in 2024. For more on the event see here.
In this chat Leisel shares about the some of the challenges she experienced in her Olympic journey and how that led her to advocate around mental health.
For more about Leisel: https://leiseljones.com.au/
For more on ChangeMakers check us out:
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For more on the books and Amanda’s writing, have a look at:
Amanda’s website - https://amandatattersall.com/
Conscious Tribes: thinking differently about making a difference - here and via Hardie Grant
People Power in Cities - here and via Oxford Uni Press
On Substack - https://substack.com/@amandatattersall
On Medium - https://amandatatts.medium.com/
And - her much earlier book about coalition building - Power in Coalition and via Cornell Uni Press
Amanda is on Socials here:
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amandatattersall.bsky.social
Threads: https://www.threads.com/@amandatattersall
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@amanda.tattersall
Amanda’s website - https://amandatattersall.com/
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Dr Daniel Nour considers himself an accidental change maker, but he is also a pretty prodigious one. A doctor, inspired by the health care that helped his brother as a child, it was an experience offering emergency medical care to a homeless man in London during his medical studies that left him unable to ignore the gaps in the healthcare system, especially for marginalised communities.
In response in Australia he created Street Side Medics, a mobile general practice unit that meets and provides medical care to people that are homeless in the places where they are at - at food venues. It started in Sydney and has spread across Australia. His work led him to be recognised as 2022 Young Australian of the Year.
Here he talks about that journey and what he learnt creating something from nothing. He explores the art of founding an organisation, the limits of planning and the importance of mentors and vision.
For more on Street Side Medics: https://www.streetsidemedics.com.au/
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For more on the books and Amanda’s writing, have a look at:
Amanda’s website - https://amandatattersall.com/
Conscious Tribes: thinking differently about making a difference - here and via Hardie Grant
People Power in Cities - here and via Oxford Uni Press
On Substack - https://substack.com/@amandatattersall
On Medium - https://amandatatts.medium.com/
And - her much earlier book about coalition building - Power in Coalition and via Cornell Uni Press
Amanda is on Socials here:
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amandatattersall.bsky.social
Threads: https://www.threads.com/@amandatattersall
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@amanda.tattersall
Amanda’s website - https://amandatattersall.com/
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Democracy is in trouble right now. In the US, Trump’s authoritarian impulses are closing over the checks and balances that used to make space for people to participate. In the UK the success of Reform in May’s local government elections reveal that people are increasingly seeing politics as elite sport - choosing to attack the system as a whole. In Australia, the success of One Nation in recent bi-elections suggests that it is also not immune from this anti-democratic movement.
In this chat with democracy academic Hahrie Han we explore this challenge, and some seeds of hope that are emerging at the local scale. Recorded ahead of the UCL Policy Lab’s Ecosystem Project gathering in May 2026 (where Hahie and Amanda are both speaking), they talk about source of hope that lie in the practices of a politics that can build spaces that can invite and explore people who are different, and have different opinions to work together.
Things might be grim, but we are never without power. This conversation seeks to make practical where collaboration across our differences can make a difference.
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We talked with Hahrie back in 2019 - take a listen to it here: https://changemakerspodcast.org/hahrie-han-changemaker-chat/
For more on the UCL Ecosystem project, visit: https://ecosystem-project.ucl.ac.uk/
For more about Hahrie Han’s work (including her latest book Undivided and her many books on organising, people power and making change), visit: https://www.hahriehan.com/
For more on ChangeMakers check us out:
Via our Website - https://changemakerspodcast.org (where you can also sign up to our email list!)
We have a brand new podcast called ChangeMakers Digest - co-hosted by Samuel Chu and Amanda Tattersall, take a listen: https://changemakerspodcast.org/category/episodes/digest/
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For more on the books and Amanda’s writing, have a look at:
Amanda’s website - https://amandatattersall.com/
Conscious Tribes: thinking differently about making a difference - here and via Hardie Grant
People Power in Cities - here and via Oxford Uni Press
On Substack - https://substack.com/@amandatattersall
On Medium - https://amandatatts.medium.com/
And - her much earlier book about coalition building - Power in Coalition and via Cornell Uni Press
Amanda is on Socials here:
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amandatattersall.bsky.social
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TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@amanda.tattersall
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What is this?
Today we are releasing a new podcast format on the ChangeMakers Channel - the ChangeMakers Digest where we take an issue in the news or that has grabbed our attention and try to make sense of it - "digesting" it - to draw out lessons and meaning for how we make change.
It is hosted by Amanda Tattersall with Samuel Chu, a long time US based community organiser.
Our aim is to release these episodes fortnightly. There is more about the digest on our website: https://changemakerspodcast.org/changemakers-digest/.
We are very keen to build a community where we extend the digesting to others making change. If you have ideas you would like us to discuss, or indeed would like to discuss with us send us an email at [email protected]. We are also keen to set up interactive digital spaces where we can keen this conversation going - if you have ideas for where that might work well, let us know.
For more on ChangeMakers check us out:
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For more on ChangeMakers check us out:
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Blue Sky: https://www.threads.com/@amandatattersall.bsky.social
For more about Samuel:
Personal site: https://www.samuelmchu.com
The Campaign for Hong Kong: https://www.thecampaignforhongkong.org
Democracy in Flight: https://www.democracyinflight.org
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuelmchu
Twitter/X: https://x.com/samuelmchu
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/samuelmchu
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samuelmchu
For more about Amanda:
Personal site: https://amandatattersall.com/
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amandatattersall.bsky.social
Threads: https://www.threads.com/@amandatattersall
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Since the 2008 Global Financial Crisis, US politics has polarised sharply - with the rise of Trump and right-wing populism, but also a renewed class-based left around figures like Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortes and Zohran Mamdani.
Part of what has given rise to these candidates is a Democratic Socialist political movement - and a key part of that movement is the publication Jacobin, which has sought to teach and lead debate about radical class politics, reviving Marxist critiques of capitalism and socialist ideology.
In this chat, the founding editor of Jacobin, Bhaskar Sunkara, charts the history of the US democratic socialists and the role of Jacobin in particular. He unpacks the recent New York Mayoral Election campaign with Zohran Mamdani, exploring how the big but simple demands about free buses and rent freezes created a different imagination for what is possible from the state. He also shares a little about his upcoming book The Blueprint (with Mike Beggs and Ben Burgis), and some of the topics he will be talking about when he visits Australia in May and June 2026.
For more information and to buy tickets for Bhaskar's Australian speaking tour: https://www.search.org.au/bhaskar_sunkara_live_in_sydney_get_your_tickets_today
The Jacobin magazine is here.
Bhaskar's earlier book, The Socialist Manifesto, can be bought here.
Story NotesFor more on ChangeMakers check us out:
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Blue Sky: https://www.threads.com/@amandatattersall.bsky.social
For more on the books and Amanda’s writing, have a look at:
Amanda’s website - https://amandatattersall.com/
Conscious Tribes: thinking differently about making a difference - here and via Hardie Grant
People Power in Cities - here and via Oxford Uni Press
On Substack - https://substack.com/@amandatattersall
On Medium - https://amandatatts.medium.com/
And - her much earlier book about coalition building - Power in Coalition and via Cornell Uni Press
Amanda is on Socials here:
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amandatattersall.bsky.social
Threads: https://www.threads.com/@amandatattersall
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Antoinette Lattouf not only fought and won a battle against the ABC - who unfairly dismissed her for sharing posts about the genocide in Gaza - but while she was doing that, she wrote a book about women who have fought and won across Australian history. Its called Women Who Win, and it was launched last week.
In this chat we unpack what she found about what it takes to win - reflecting on her journey and that of other women. We explore the kinds of qualities and insight the help us make change.
One of the great joys of this chat, and of Antoinette's book, is the vulnerability and honesty that she brings to thinking about change making. She calls on us to be bold, but never pretends that its easy. Instead, she shares some of the ways she held herself steady as she fought for the right to speak, and for a media landscape that respects difference and different ideas.
To find out more and get a copy of Antonette's magnificent book "Women Who Win" - visit the Penguin Random House website (or all good bookshops) - https://www.penguin.com.au/books/women-who-win-9781761355370.
You can also listen to Antoinette's podcast with Jan Fran "We used to be Journos" on ACAST here: https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/we-used-to-be-journos.
You can find out more about Antonette via her website: https://antoinettelattouf.com/
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Blue Sky: https://www.threads.com/@amandatattersall.bsky.social
For more on the books and Amanda’s writing, have a look at:
Amanda’s website - https://amandatattersall.com/
Conscious Tribes: thinking differently about making a difference - here and via Hardie Grant
People Power in Cities - here and via Oxford Uni Press
On Substack - https://substack.com/@amandatattersall
On Medium - https://amandatatts.medium.com/
And - her much earlier book about coalition building - Power in Coalition and via Cornell Uni Press
Amanda is on Socials here:
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amandatattersall.bsky.social
Threads: https://www.threads.com/@amandatattersall
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@amanda.tattersall
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Rules and assumptions like economics are far from natural or neutral. They are written by a certain group of people and serve a particular set of interests. So what does it look like when a growing group of African women begin to disrupt these assumption by building approaches to economics, food, health and politics that starts with their lives?
Crystal Simeoni has spent six years spearheading a pan-African feminist movement that is doing exactly this. We talk about her journey to this work that has been built out of her experiences working in community based economics in Kenya, and based on a long held critique of top-down policy systems. Crystal has strengthened community-led research methods to design change differently. She no longer wants a seat a table that has already been set by someone else. She is working with African women through NAWI to build a new table that is designed with African women in mind.
You can find out more about NAWI Collective here: https://nawi.africa/
The African Feminist Journal Crystal mentioned is here: https://feministafrica.net/
The repository of African women's thought leadership on political economy questions is here: https://kofa.nawi.africa/
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Blue Sky: https://www.threads.com/@amandatattersall.bsky.social
For more on the books and Amanda’s writing, have a look at:
Amanda’s website - https://amandatattersall.com/
Conscious Tribes: thinking differently about making a difference - here and via Hardie Grant
People Power in Cities - here and via Oxford Uni Press
On Substack - https://substack.com/@amandatattersall
On Medium - https://amandatatts.medium.com/
And - her much earlier book about coalition building - Power in Coalition and via Cornell Uni Press
Amanda is on Socials here:
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amandatattersall.bsky.social
Threads: https://www.threads.com/@amandatattersall
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@amanda.tattersall
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When war mongering has reached a new level of absurdity, this week we are tuning into a chat we recorded last year with comedian Sami Shah about the change making power of satire.
Sami shares his story of finding comedy - and political satire in particular - as a way to cope with political instability in Pakistan, and how he brought those insights to his work as a comedian in Australia. He shares his reflections on the possibilities and limits of comedy, while also sharing some of its methods. He speaks of a way of seeing the powerful that uses ridicule to show that they aren't infallible.
This chat was first released in March 2025.
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Amanda is on Socials here:
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amandatattersall.bsky.social
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TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@amanda.tattersall
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The world's attention is focused on War in Iran and across the Middle East, but less attention is being paid to the people who will have to uplift their lives and seek refuge in other countries because of the bombs.
Mona Bani knows this journey as her family were refugees from Iran decades ago. In this podcast - that was recorded in 2024 - she tells the story about how her family's journey to seek refuge, and the community they created and the challenges they faced let her to establish a different kind of support service for refugees in the UK.
This is a story of a community working out how to support and lift itself up in a context of heightened anti-immigrant politics. There are powerful lessons about the role of community leadership in providing community services, and there are also insights for how communities can provide a response to the rise in authoritarian anti-immigrant policies escalating across the world.
For more on ChangeMakers check us out:
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On Facebook, Instagram, Threads - https://www.facebook.com/ChangeMakersPodcast/
Blue Sky Social - changemakerspod.bsky.aocial & amandatattersall.bsky.social
On LinkedIn - Amanda.Tattersall
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Alex Kelly has been involved in climate and Indigenous campaigning and social change for decades - with a focus on communications, storytelling and the arts. She has long taught people about how to communicate their messages in the media. But in January 2026, she found herself at the centre of unprecedented bushfires then flooding in regional Victoria - and used her skills to project a message about disaster and climate change.
In this episode we explore what she learnt from her experience on the frontline, and what her experience can teach others about how to communicate and link our personal experiences and testimony to bigger public causes and issues when talking to the media - and when telling stories more generally.
For more:
Alex's website and project archive https://echotango.org/
The Unquiet Collective - Alex's film and impact home https://unquiet.com.au/
The Things We Did Next speculative futures project https://www.thethingswedidnext.org/
Economic Media Centre - free spokesperson training https://www.economicmediacentre.org/
The Point op-ed on disaster levy: https://thepoint.com.au/opinions/260115-harcourt-fires-show-need-for-disaster-levy
350.org post on resilience https://350.org/wildfires-building-community-resilience/?r=AU&c=OC
Duty of care & lived experience spokesperson resources https://docs.google.com/document/d/14OWJxTJ8y08iouwxg2E4MIsATT7Vv_Xtey4mpekgfXQ/edit?tab=t.0
Bushfire Survivors for Climate Action Lived Experience Guide to Climate Campaigning https://static1.squarespace.com/static/60ee407ec551f135b5c1a9a8/t/66e0e408260d51146efd7c06/1726014473102/Lived+Experience+Guide+to+Climate+Campaigning+2024.pdf
Documentary Accountability Working Group https://www.docaccountability.org/
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We talk with Michael Bradley who has taken on Murdoch as well as defending the rights of refugees about what it takes to be a lawyer and a change maker at the same time. He shares his 20 year journey from conventional law to a different kind of lawyering that he has now practiced for 17 years at Marque Lawyers – and how he now centres his legal practice around relationships.
He also shares a few war stories of how he has used the law to fight for justice, including the battle against Lachlan Murdoch’s attempt to sue Crickey for defamation.
Whether you are a lawyer or you are a lawyer sceptic – there is something powerful in Michael’s dissection of the legal profession and his identification of a different way to practice the law.
This was first released in April 2025.
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Trump's abusive war against immigrants has been jailing children and extracting people's neighbours for years - but in Minnesota his abuses are being challenged directly, powerfully and with enormous bravery. For our first episode for 2026, we speak with Erik Peterson who is a 40 year resident and community organiser and also someone who has trained community organisers across Minnesota, the rest of the US and in Australia as well! Indeed he is a good friend of mine, and a friend of many big community groups and movements in Australia.
Erik shares a deeper context to help us understand the ICE battle that goes far beyond the news - such as Minnesota's long history of progressive politics and organising, and then reveals how that context and history is playing out in the streets of Minnesota's cities.
This story has radical lessons about how to mobilise against injustice, but also insights about how we make change in dark authoritarian times. Its a story about a horrible chapter in US history, and also about the hope that can emerge from taking action for what we believe in.
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For our last episode of 2025, we listen back to one of the leading communications specialists in US politics - Anat Shenker-Osorio. Lucky for listeners in Sydney, Anat is visiting Australia in December and you can get tickets to see her speak hosted by Australian Progress on December 11 at the University of Sydney. More details here: https://www.australianprogress.org.au/events/anat-in-conversation-sydney
This episode was recorded back in 2024, before the 2024 US Presidential Election - and includes Anat sharing stories from her own podcast Words to Win By. Details below. And - we will be back in 2026 with our 10th Season at the beginning of February!! See you then.
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We talk with one of the world’s leading communication specialists for progressive change. Anat Shenker-Osorio has spend decades working with communities, movements and progressive political candidates across the world helping them to sharpen and improve how they communicate their ideas. Anat brings a deep understanding of change making principles in her work – and today she unpacks where her communications methodology came from and some of its key principles.
This Chat is full of change making stories, many of which are drawn from her fantastic podcast Words to Win By.
You can find out more about Anat’s work and method by:
Listening to her podcast Words to Win By – which is now releasing its third season!Reading her book – Don’t Buy It: The Trouble with Talking Nonsense about the EconomyFor more on ChangeMakers check us out:
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When Zohran Mamdani voted in the New York Mayoral election last week he told the press that he followed the Working Families Party ticket. Who is the Working FamiliesParty?
This episode is one we recorded earlier with the national leader of the Working Families Party - Maurice Mitchell. This episode was recorded in the wake of the Movement for Black Lives protests, but he also explains the origins of Working Families and their urban origins in community organising movements like ACORN in the US.
There is a long story behind one of the many strands emerging in resistance politics in the US.
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We have a chat with Radio Nation's Saturday Extra Host Nick Bryant about all things America - and the long story behind the intractable conflicts in the US. This episode was recorded in December 2024 - after President Trump's election but before he took office so it doesn't focus on what has happened in 2025. Instead it casts a long history that sheds light on the fissures and conflicts, the trend towards authoritarianism and the racism that is not new in American politics.
It is also a lovely background to the indefatigable host of Australia's number one (or at least our number one) current affairs radio show!
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In Australia, since 2012 there has been an explosive growth in community independents who have been challenging the two-party system and bringing new voices in the parliament. But there is a much bigger story than just the arrival of many new faces in parliament. Behind the new elected representatives is a massive movement of people - the "Voices of" movement - that started in Indi and has spread out across the country. That national movement is called Voices for Australia.
Denis was a founding member of the Indi movement and has played a leadership role in supporting and sharing these ideas nationally. In this chat we find out about his long history in rural community activism and then we unpack some of the features of the Voices of movement that has led to its success so far ....
You can also read more about Voices for Indi in their book available here:
https://scribepublications.com.au/books/the-indi-way
Or read this shorter piece in Arena by Denis and Lesley Howard about the Community Independents movement:
https://arena.org.au/a-positive-politics-community-independents-and-the-new-wave-of-political-engagement/
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