Episodes
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Trudy and Lisa look back on 2025 and talk about what they’ve learned from another year of CroneCast. As they look ahead to 2026, they reflect on the meaning of giving, their deep hopes, and what it takes to be fearless.
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(02:12) - Wrapping up the year(09:28) - Reciprocity (18:00) - The pleasure of giving(26:18) - What did you learn this year?--Credits--
Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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How does making friends change over a lifetime? Does your comfort zone work against you? Lisa is back in the studio and joins Trudy for a conversation about friendship — making friends later in life, social scripts about friendship and lessons learned in Italy.
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(01:30) - Making friends in your crone years(09:57) - Different life stages(20:02) - Reciprocity in relationships(27:16) - Common ground is a place where things begin (37:25) - Staying open
--Credits--Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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Lisa joins Trudy for one final episode from Italy to chat about the fraught nature of generational differences, the generosity and courtesy of Italian culture, and the problem of social media — plus their best tips for cutting onions.
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(00:51) - Hello from Bologna(10:35) - Italian generosity and hospitality (15:29) - The generation gap(23:17) - Culture of entitlement(31:00) - There’s a place for our wisdom
--Credits--Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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The indescribable experience of seeing Michelangelo’s David in person draws Lisa and Trudy into a conversation about the value of rejoicing in life and celebrating ourselves exactly as we are.
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(01:01) - Seeing the David (11:01) - Change the narrative(17:40) - Stop comparing yourself(24:30) - Maiden, Mother, Crone(31:18) - Practicing gratitude
--Credits--Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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Ciao! Lisa joins Trudy virtually from Italy to continue their conversations about courage, being difficult women and the stories we all tell ourselves about our own capacity and limits.
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(01:19) - Ciao from Italia(09:11) - Courage(21:06) - What story are you telling yourself?(29:50) - Taking up space(37:47) - People’s inherent kindness
--Credits--Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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How does one cultivate courage? By being courageous. Lisa and Trudy discuss the resilience of women, taking risks and the need for silent time to listen to your inner voice.
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(01:55) - Courage means doing it anyway(10:23) - Fortitude is courage over time(20:38) - Self-talk(26:35) - A soft place to land(35:20) - Being a woman takes courage
--Credits--Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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Lisa and Trudy are joined by prolific author Merilyn Simonds to chat about the benefits of inter-generational friendship, the creative process and why women are so much more than the roles they play.
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Walking with Beth: Conversations with My Hundred-Year-Old Friend by Merilyn Simonds
Woman, Watching: Louise de Kiriline Lawrence and the Songbirds of Pimisi Bay by Merilyn Simonds
(00:55) - Introducing Merilyn Simonds and Beth Robinson(06:47) - I want that woman as my friend(11:03) - Boundaries(19:40) - The writing process(24:11) - Broadening the scope of who you are(32:06) - Friendships as we age--Credits--
Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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Lisa and Trudy are joined by Trisha Estabrooks, a communicator, advocate and former school trustee and journalist, for a conversation about the moments on the precipice in life. When there’s a fork in the road, which way do you go? Trisha shares her wisdom from successes and failures, and the challenges of being a woman in politics.
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“Ain’t Life a Brook” by Ferron
(01:11) - Introducing Trisha Estabrooks(09:03) - Where does courage come from?(17:42) - Time for reinvention(23:23) - The path will reveal itself(30:52) - The next reinvention (35:35) - Letting go(41:53) - On the precipice
--Credits--Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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To celebrate their 40th episode, Trudy and Lisa are joined by “apprentice crone” Cody Dub to discuss entering the “second trimester” of life. What does it mean to be middle aged? Why is camaraderie between women so important? And how do women manage the squeeze of living in the “sandwich generation”?
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(01:30) - Welcome Cody Dub(09:40) - Gut brain(17:48) - What do you know you don’t know?(29:04) - Un-wellness and women (35:46) - You desire what’s in front of you--From This Episode–
The Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell
Radical Acceptance, Radical Compassion by Tara Brach
You’re Wrong About podcast hosted by Sarah Marshall
--Credits--
Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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If I explore my growing edges, how will I have to change? Lisa and Trudy break down the self-limiting beliefs that can hold all of us back — and how important it is to get out of your own way and ask, “Who am I beyond the shape I’m in?”
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The Growing Edge by Howard Thurman
(01:38) - The edge(09:45) - It’s never too late for anything(15:07) - Fixed vs learner’s mindset(22:01) - How far are you from where you want to grow?(22:27) - Motivated by fear or by love(36:23) - Getting out of your own way
--Credits--Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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Psychologist Janelle Drisner brings her unique perspective and sage wisdom to the conversation around loneliness. The cure to loneliness lies within — Janelle takes us to the root of our loneliness and how we can find the connection we crave.
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I and Thou by Martin Buber
The Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell
Risk by Anaïs Nin
--Credits--
Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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Trudy and Lisa are joined by executive coach Diane Lloyd to discuss the perils, pleasures and promises of aging as a woman, how menopause impacts women professionally, and how women can step into their power and be visible in midlife.
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On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to Be Good by Elise Loehnen
(01:07) - Introducing our guest, Diane Lloyd(06:18) - Happy accidents(10:04) - Radical change(17:53) - Life transitions and women’s resilience(23:20) - Who am I now?(29:13) - High functioning, resilient women need help too(34:31) - Feminine energy’s value(38:24) - The crone years(43:08) - The courage to hold others accountable
--Credits--Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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Trudy and Lisa discuss the lifelong process of becoming, and wisdom they’ve earned from their crone years. This wide-ranging conversation covers it all, from creating your path with intention, the courage to step outside your comfort zone and why you should try manifesting — even if you aren’t woowoo.
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(01:02) - Connecting the dots(06:23) - Being intentional about who you are(12:01) - Am I limiting myself?(19:21) - Rebuilding takes time(23:51) - Manifesting what you want(33:32) - I can’t dismiss magic
--From This Episode--Outsider: An Old Man, a Mountain and the Search for a Hidden Past by Brett Popplewell
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Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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Speaking up might earn you a name like “mouthy” or “bitch,” but is it really better to stay silent? Lisa and Trudy discuss the difference between a Karen and a crone, when to speak up and the wisdom one gains with age.
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(01:01) - Coming in hot(04:29) - Mouthy but not entitled(09:03) - Speaking up(12:53) - Fear of the Karen(18:38) - Don’t make a scene(25:46) - Aging out of people-pleasing
--Credits--Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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There’s a difference between being lonely and being alone. Trudy and Lisa explore the rich possibilities of living alone, approaching life with intention and finding unexpected joys in solo life.
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(01:17) - Flying solo(07:06) - The fog(11:23) - Practice being alone(15:15) - Aloneness as opening(19:40) - Choosing a path(23:57) - Loving life as it is(28:14) - Be intentional
--Credits--Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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Lisa and Trudy reflect on the women who have shaped them and influenced their lives — and how they’re passing that legacy on.
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(03:37) - The women who’ve mattered to us(07:31) - Who has shaped your life?(10:32) - Surrogate daughters(14:32) - We have more impact than we know(18:50) - Cronedom
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Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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In the second of this two part episode, Lisa continues sharing her journey with her mental illness — and how she found her way back to her brighter, healthier self.
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(01:52) - Picking up where we left off(04:50) - Life is a series of trade offs(10:30) - Nightmares(16:33) - What has happened to my beautiful brain?(18:16) - Telling the story (22:37) - Doing the work hurts (25:35) - Catharsis through creativity
--Credits--Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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In this episode, the first of two parts, Lisa speaks with candor and humour about her struggles with mental health and her journey to mental wellness. For those who have struggled with depression and anxiety, or those who just wish to understand mental illness more deeply, Lisa offers insight and inspiration.
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(04:20) - Women’s Heavy Emotional Load(08:57) - Starting at the Beginning(12:58) - Dissolving(16:49) - Our Weaknesses Can Be Strengths(23:10) - How Are You Really?(30:43) - You are a Presence
Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa AustinProduced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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Language is many things: fluid, living, open to interpretation. Trudy and Lisa explore new coinages, the importance of challenging patronizing language, and disagree about mansplaining. Our hosts attempt to untangle language’s contradictions and histories, and debate the value of gendered language.
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(05:07) - Ladies and Gentlemen(09:08) - Explaining Mansplaining(11:27) - The Fallacy(19:55) - “Are you mansplaining to me right now?”(24:50) - Language Matters(28:31) - Language is Alive (32:17) - Calling Things What They Are
--Credits--Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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It can feel uncomfortable to talk about, but maybe that’s why it’s so fun. Lisa and Trudy get down and dirty about the realities of sex, bodies and aging. Together, our hosts explore how desire shifts over our lifetimes, confronting ageism and sexism, and women’s agency.
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Hags: The Demonisation of Middle-Aged Women by Victoria Smith
(01:47) - Can We Talk About This?(06:21) - Sexual Beings to the End(12:40) - Evolving Beauty Over Our Lifetimes(18:25) - Sexuality is a Mind Game(20:11) - Humour From a Place of Love(25:21) - Size and Invisibility(27:51) - We’re Told to Feel Bad About Our Bodies
--Credits--Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen
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