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Join Jade and the tall, smiling pink haired gem as she ponders the many right ways of doing things - when care, intellect & heart goes into the building of skills, earth care & people care we need to honour the effort which is more important than the approach taken.
Learn why she actively puts herself in front of opportunities & why she uses her platform as an extension to her duty of care - "Its not about me its about the issueâ"While I have sadness in me about the heartbreaks happening across the world I choose to actively come back to radical hope. If you care for each other and the world we live in thereâs no other option but to weave love and joy into life and weave hope into every single day"
References in the convo
ABC Gardening Australia
Gardening Australia Junior program
The Good Life - Hannahs first book
Good Life Growing - how to grow fruit and veg in any climate in Australia
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Buy the Book - Futuresteading - Live Like tomorrow mattersShow Notes:
The juggle is real - relying on friends to help us
Not doing all the things all the time
Why itâs harder to ask than it is to help
Take time to build deep relationships. Communities hold us through good & not so good
Finding people with common interests as the starting place to build a huddle
Building people care into property design - human behaviours & human nature
Good permaculture design based on the individuals who are living & stewarding the landscape
Dan Palmer transformative for the Australian Permaculture community. He challenged & elevated it.
Bringing people along in challenging conversations at challenging times
Conversations which build community - âI donât see the difference between hardened farmers and inner city hipstersâ all I see is people who are enthusiastically food growing
The elusive âbalanceâ - âits doesnât exist but she is getting better at scheduling so actively builds slots of quiet time to counter balance the external
The power of a routine
Putting yourself in the way of opportunities so you can deepen your impact
Every type of activism is needed but Hannah is best suited to solution orientated activism.
Don't underestimate the feeling inside you as your accurate guide
Ikigai formula
Creating a goat share
We donât have to be self sufficient but doing things with intention & love - living towards your values
Seed saving magnificence - Iâve got the power
Energetically connecting to people
Life in front of the camera for ABC gardening Australia
Ulitising the tools & opportunities available to us in our modern world
Sometimes itâs about doing the things that are unnecessary (like dying your hair pink) to nurture our psyche
Learning in public - transparency about openly making mistakes to avoid being pigeonholed
I hope that in a decade I can publicly admit that I've been wrong about things.
She is happiest when she is IN the work - not about her but about the shining of light on things that matter to herâŠitâs just a tool to open a door to talk to people
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Dr Kate Luckins asks what shade of green are you? The answer is of little consequence and will most certainly ebb with the hokey poke of life - finding your own shade, in your own way is the secretâŠalong with an audit or two of your cupboards, sheds, fridge and mind.
With a doctorate in sustainability, this Dr knows a thing or two about how we can climb aboard the bandwagon and STAY ON, ultimately resulting in us living "More with Less (which is the name of her new new book) - as our own shade of green.
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Pod References:
War on Waste
Urban Nanna
Well Nourished Georgia Harding naturopath
ST ethical eating guidesShow Notes
Even when you mean well - life is very busy so its really hard to bring this way of life to the front line
Crisis fatigue - why the looming Armageddon can cripple us.
Empathy for our parents managing teenagers who want to create the landfill of tomorrow
Experimenting with a clothing exchange
Awakening the consumer in her with the birth of her baby
Bring unapologetically medium green
Not doing all the things at once
A medium, life friendly shade of green which maintains momentum
Building new habits that are awkward and unfamiliar slowly becoming part of your flow.
Smug stock stash being built in the freezer
1 in every 5 bags of shopping is incidentally wasted
Getting sucked into every foodie, fashion and fun fad
Life audits - fridge, wardrobe, third drawer down,
Filling the gap between our concerns and our reality.
Our cultural issue isnât what to do its about how we make decisions in the weeds - what should our self expectation be.
Keeping the paralysis of eco fear at bay
Finding the times in your life that are well suited to bringing in more change
Treat yourself like you would a friend who is doing their best
Its not the people in govt who feel the most powerful its the every day eco heroes who feel enthusiastic and the actions they are taking. Unofficial authorities in their own communities
Leading by example is the most powerful way to bring systems change
Diagnosing our reality and changing our language because of it.
Why the sustainability movement needs a theme song
More connection, more time, more community, less, consumption, less waste,
Finding your on ramp to get into this way of being
Start where your interests lie and don't worry about it being perfect or bigâ
The value of the imperfect
We often buy because we are compensating or obliged to buyâŠ
Seeding the idea of âbuying less and valuing it wellâ
Why its so bloody hard to raise kids today to be mini ecowarriors
Buy less and live more in a society that is structurally designed to create waste and
Find your door in - start with the things that interest you and your energy will be infectious - don't underestimate the ripple effect of
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Kirsten Bradley is one half of permacultures favourite educators MILKWOOD and she joins us as our opening night (very early morning actually) star in the spectacular line up of season nine guests.
We've had her in our ears before but not since she crossed Bass Straight to set up home and release her new book. The Milkwood Permaculture Living Handbook
We delve into how she has built her Huddle in the southern most state and how she contributes to the mycelium of community that will form what is ultimately needed in the coming 100 years of skilled up, earth connected, community first folk who just keep showing up - which is easier said than done.
She talks about our duty of care to the commons and why we need to be comfortable as the receiver and giver in your local soup kitchen.Love what you hear? Support the show
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Buy the Book - Futuresteading - Live Like tomorrow mattersShow Notes:
Building a new life in Tasmania - here we are!
The forest school that runs along democratic lines with kiddos making decisions (but still have to do maths)
Teenagers marinating in different ideas and different thinking
Being confident to let your small human build their own vision and values
Upskilling FAST: Growing food, making bread, sewing, community connections
Rebooting our civic duty to be relational with each other
Changing the world, one habit at a time with her latest book: the Milkwood Permaculture Living Handbook
Engaging in the commons - taking responsibility for the things which are held in common-wealth (beaches, waters, parks) scraps of land that are worth taking care of and starting a relationship with.
Using your privilege for purpose - even if limited - use them to help those who donât have them
Start by identifying your privileges and call out those who behave in a way that limits rather than supports others
The value of clever, open, respectful communication with those who don't align with your values
âNo one is in anybody else's shoes so we donât have the knowledge or the right to make judgmentsâ
âWhether youâre the soup giver or the soup taker - in times of need, we all need each other and finding the common ground to be on either side of the table is a pillar of how weâll live in the next 100 yearsâ
Building partnerships in coalitions of the unlikely
Mutual aid in her backyard, not just in times of crises but a community way of being
Making sure youâve got some really big pots in your pantry to fire up a huge pot of soup if needed
The million ways to contribute to the community care systems we all need
Sharing your skills far and wide
How sheâs made online learning as practical and useful as possible
Do one thing, make it a habit then choose one more thing
Threading the various communities together to create a dynamic non 9-5 existence
Compassion speaks to creating futures with other people despite the overlapping crises
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Remember this beautiful human? She spent some time in your ears way back in series one & two before heading off for a life of adventure & learning in the intellectual home of permaculture. Catie Payne is a courageous one-of-a-kind character full of love and laughter who challenges 'normal' and beats to her own drum.
Join us for this joyful, 'been-too-long-catchup between Jade & Catie & delve into the last two years of Catie's artistic, rewilding, permaculture filled days.
Show notesCatie now lives at Melliodora permaculture working in exchange for food and accommodation - what is this really like?
Completed a re-wilding leadership course with Claire Dunne taught her so much about herself and our culture.
Why storytelling has been an important learning for her and what she now plans to do with this.Hiking on a sacred songline in Nitmiluk National Park near Katherine NT, led by the Jaywoyn traditional owners.
Connecting to nature through sit-spots and wandering in the bush.
To guide our kids she suggests ârights of passageâ rewildling programs that give a reference point to a more grounded, wild and connected life.
Current reads for Jade and Catie
Reactivating her love of medicinal weeds through a monthly community herb circle
Building a vision for women to reclaim the role of natural healers in their communities.
As the Futuresteading podcast takes an extended break. Catie and Jade relish the many characters and conversations they have shared through the pod.
Learning that just asking a question unfolds a whole conversation and opportunity to see things from a different perspective.Thank you to everyone who has popped Futuresteading in your ears, all of the comments, the tears, the shared knowledge and camaraderie.
References
âPlants - Past Present and Futureâ by Zena Cumpston, Michael Fletcher, Lesley Head
: https://store.holmgren.com.au/product/plants-past-present-and-future/
âWilder, a journey back to lifeâ by Meg Berryman: https://www.megberryman.com/
âRewildling the Urban Soulâ by Claire Dunne: https://www.naturesapprentice.com.au/
Ntimiluk Adventures: https://www.nitmiluktours.com.au/
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Summary
"Weâve never been sicker as a species, we've never experienced such high levels of extinction and its time to look past the âmachine thatâs workingâ and actively choose not to contribute to it. Instead, its time to share ancestral knowledge, naturopathy, movement & earth based skills with each other & the next generation and nod to our ancestors by learning the ways, diets and nutritional needs of our bodies. Let us experience deep sorrow ahead of rejecting the mainstream colonised and capitalistic system and lets walk away from being a machine centred society so that it supports humans first"
Show notes
Life in a commune which is 60% indigenous and 60% queer
Sharing her ancestorial voice given to her by her mother and her family lineage
Building on generations prior to build fierceness yet peace in her
Birthing an event called âthe gatheringâ to fulfil her own need to create a space that was not dominated by whiteness or privilege
The biggest and greatest job we have on this planet is to raise well and connected children
Focussing her efforts on marginalised communities
We cannot be strong female leaders unless we are bringing everyone along with us
Stepping into a woman centred world
Why the current system is failing all of us to live long, strong, healthy existences
Living in deep loving connection with each other & the natural world
People have never seen intuitive spirituality as fact but its a feminine and necessary path
Feminine cycle of 28 days, men cycling on 28 hour cycles
Creating a feminine vision quest
Women are the wisdom keepers, communicators,
Shifting away from operating up and out from our body and actively coming back into our bodies which creates a down regulation of our nervous system
Coming into ONE conscious moment each week
Growing up with fragmented culture because of colonisation
Rewriting new paradigms with indigenous culture at the heart
Actively desiring a small but mighty charitable organisation - without desire for becoming national or global
The power of localisation
Coming to ârestâ on country
Rest in the knowing that she is walking on the same country that her blood has walked on in her ancestral linage
Encouragement to take a pilgrimage to the âhomelandâ of your ancestors
Once upon a time there was a well and connected ancestor living and thriving
Finding our own indiginaity
Lore created by country and culture
We are but a minuscule piece of a puzzle made up by the thousands of ancestors who came before us
Allowing feminine power breathe by openly accepting pain and working through trauma
Rather than changing the way we work, live, and be in the world we are now relying on abstractions to be the catchall
Let us return to a religion where water is our god againReferences
It takes courage to tell the truth - Book
The returning - Annual event
Reclaim your kin and decolonise your mind - CoursePodcast partners ROCK!
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When did having twin basins and three toilets become the norm? As an architect who bucks the idea of bigger-is-better Jane Hilliard uses the principle of âEnoughnessâ as a design principle for the built environment. Its better for both the natural environment and the people around us. It allows us to be rich in ways that matter instead of buying into the idea that grandeur will make us happy.
For her 'enough' looks like going out into her backyard supermarket garden picking something and cooking it. Its also having outdoor space & quiet, unstructured time to think. Guided by the principle of âenoughness,â she manages her work load to keep her energy output within her own capacity while meeting her modest need for resources to sustain her family and business.
Show notesBringing her love of arts and social justice together
Sidestepping stress and money in the architecture design world.
Ensuring sustainability isn't just an add-on rather than core to design
Why the endless pursuit of âmoreâ and better is relentless and pointless
Asking âwhat is enough?â starts with your values and how you want to feel.âI ask myself: What is enough work to sustain me, my creativity, my staff and the financial resources we need to sustain my practice.â
What "enough" looks like for her high-school age children.
âI enjoy causing a bit of a stirâŠnot in a way thatâs shaming anyoneâŠbut by pushing back on the system, not individuals.â
Working a 9 day fortnight
Small rituals like, morning coffee, starting the day outside, growing food, being present with her children.
Normalising messy, lived in homes which change with the seasons and as its occupants get older.
Why central heating has loosened family ties
Living in a smaller space with less resources helps us develop negotiation skills and foster connections.
Simplify life by starting with one thing.
How much are you packing into your week, or your year?âThe more work I take on, the less time and energy I have for all the other projects we have already, and Iâll enjoy them a little less too.â
"We have everything we need to go forward into the future. It's not about gaining new knowledge or new skills or new technology or new tools. It's about stripping things back and getting rid of a lot of stuff."
We need to be grateful for how much the earth gives us and not to take too much.
Our culture is dominated by growth and seeking opportunity. The desire for more can be part of our status and identity.
People are trying to meet their needs with things instead of meaning.
A mentality that âIâve worked hard and I deserve itâ is a strong focus for Jane's clients.
Just because "you've worked hard and deserve it" doesnât mean you should aim for the biggest and shiniest.
"We stay in tents and shacks when we go away, why canât we bring this spirit into our own house? How about an outdoor kitchenâŠwhy not?"References
Designful - Janes design agency
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"Apple pie without cheese is like a kiss without a squeeze" and what's the point in that. Life as a shepherd in Vermont USA can be lonely but farm time provides opportunity for reflection & cup filling so there's more energy to give to community. "Although I donât say no to help - I donât let no help stop me" is the can-do attitude Tammy exudes not only for her sheep breeding but also her natural yarn dying & her intentional life which is deeply committed to her place in Southern Vermont where she likes to beat to her own drum at a scale that works for her. Listen in as she speaks of a life that's lived with purpose, unrushed, in collaboration and in deep trust that the natural world will teach the skills needed at the right time.
Big thoughts to save the world began as a child
Seeking more colour beyond numbers
Learning to smell, feel and hear the seasons on her walk to school
Her winding path to becoming a single woman farmer
Learning to natural dye
Not feeling able to beat the drum until she walks the talk herself
She never thinks that her farming scale minimises her importance
Her accidental ownership of black nose valais sheep
Letting time and nature do much of the work passively
Iâm not in a rush - Iâm being responsible so if thatâs slower then so be it. Its also a teaching opportunity
The teaching message is so much greater than just the product.
Being in a deficit of living with intention
Discovering the limitless appetite for homesteading skills
She might be an intense teacher
Apple Pies served with cheeseâŠitâs a thing
Sour Pickle, maple syrup and doughnuts - Vermont traditions
Shepherding can be lonely but it provides time to reset and regroup and fill her tank
Her desire to see others as happy as she is
Lift up rather than commiserate
Planning to run the bingo games when she's in a nursing home
You learn so much when you're in community
Becoming accustomed to letting it be not picture perfect
You cannot go inwards when bad things happen on the farm or you will always be inwards
Never turn your back on your ideals and trust your heart - really listen to what matters for you
Sincerely imagining what you are committed to and go with thatReferences
Wing and a Prayer Farm
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The talented Megan Grant bought the futuresteading book to life with her vibrant depictions of a seasonal, intentional and ritual rich life. After a year of being asked, this introvert who dreams and thinks in colours and pictures finally said yes to being interviewed. We chat about her intuitive approach to creativity, her deep need to keep trying despite making plenty of work that doesn't make her happy and how a magnificent collaboration with clothing brand Gormon came about - but why she rarely wears the pieces herself.
Show notesMaking art her life by intuition
She thinks and dreams in pictures
Why picture making is her language to connect to other people
Developing her style via lots of work that doesnât make her happy until the ones that make her happy appear
Her love of children's art more than anything - tapping back into the innocence of children art - her main goal when she paints she has two brains that are in conflict which each other
Finding the balance between art that is intellectualised and art that is intuitive
Letting accidents happen and feeling her way through them
In art itâs important to make terrible work over and over again
The value of sleeping on things to clarify perspective
Being reflective to ensure evolution
Being happy for her work to represent her
The story of her involvement in the futuresteading book
Collborating with Gormon clothing
Being the kids of creative parents
Art becoming part of your DNA when youâre the child of an artist
Being prolific in your creativity
The balance of being an artist that needs to fit ânormalâ life into it
The financial compromise of being a full time artist. Part by design and part by necessity
The life long sacrifice of being an artist despite the reward of being able to create freely
Creating commission pieces
Setting out with blind faith and hope
Despite a 20 year career, she is âonly just getting startedâ
The breathtaking discovery that you could âpaint for a livingâ
Tapping into art for arts sake
Why art is an important part of simply being alive
Art brings peace, purpose and the bleeding obvious through interpretation
Why artists are the provocateurs of our community
Feeling fortunate to have an endless source of hope and optimism because she has art in her life
Painting for mental health
Self containment that comes from her creativity
Grappling with the need to use art as a statement maker
Beauty is its own reason for being
Why art is culturally soothing
Noticing the weeds at the service station
Advice for her daughter
We have to go and make the inspiration happen by doing
Finding a drive, style and direction in your own time
âYou canât wait for the inspiration to comeâReferences
Fenton and Fenton
Megan Grant Instagram
Gormon clothing
Gary Miles Art
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We need an economic system based on values and trust to see genuine change in this critical decade. This intuition led powerhouse is collaboratively leading the thinking for philanthropy & impact investment to shift away from reductionist outcomes to a 'relationship first' approach where she believes the place to begin is with inner work to determine 'who you are', 'what makes you brave' and 'where your voice strongest'
Weâve got the solutions but the human capacity to make this change is what needs to begin first.
SUMMARY
Why its harder to give money away with meaning than you might think
Wanting to be more than not just a cheque book
Asking where humans fit into ecosystems
Her awakening to disconnection
Finding people who were also asking questions
Moving into sustainable ag and food security
Connecting the environmental crisis & what we eat
Her appetite to move beyond greenwashing to transformation
The value of slowing down
Wanting people to think of her as a broke NGO leader not a rich philanthropist
Getting her ego out of the way
Embracing the world she was trying to push away
What is philanthropy - the skill of giving money away
Moving assets away from the extractive economic system
How investment can change systems
Understanding systems & the levers that need to be pulled to expedite change
The importance of mass decentralisation & taking a place based approach to bring change
Starting a relationship with open, honest transparency & an opportunity to co-create solutions
Relationship requires a number
Moving at the speed of trust
Looking for replication not endless growth
Using compassionate debt as a solution to building relationships that can enable change
Creating opportunity for replication over scale
Building models that allow relationships to be at the core
Rich relationships are paramount
Understanding connection to country - bringing gentleness from the land into her everyday
Daily spiritual practice to set the days intentions
Whatever you resist persists
Daily practice of staying mindful and present - maintenance
The danger of defining yourself as âresilientâ which doesnât allow you to be fragile
Developing a hardiness by sitting in your discomfort
Keeping the ego in check
Gleaning joy from rich conversations
Cocreating a new language that releases our stuckness in the current paradigm
Discovering how we all contribute in a way that meets our super power
If its too easy then it must be in the current paradigm and we need to ask, is there another way to do this?
Stepping around colonialism by being present & really listening
Being uncomfortable with the new to serve a changed world in the future
Self sustainability is the piece that often gets left behind
How can philanthropists play their part
Finding strength & bravery when you have your people by your sideReferences
Impact sustainability - her business
Sustainable Table
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This homeschooling mum of three spends her days foraging, growing, swapping & upskilling all in the name of continuing to live her version of normal in an abnormal world where we've lost touch with our food, medicine & the natural world.
After taking her time with her families transition to this way of life, her newfound confidence & conviction ensures she won't be told what to do by big business or have her opinions changed by corporations. Although not all plain sailing-she shares valuable insights into the bumpy but ultimately rewarding path she's been on.
"Living in a cushioned culture is limiting in our ability to share skills & share knowledge"
SHOW NOTES
Eating meat that youâve met - being responsible for the whole life cycle
Stepping stones to this way of life - starting small, with what youâve got
Learning from failure as you scale
The fallacy of being self sufficient
Foraging, bartering & selling excess of what you do grow to access the things you donât grow
Why being dogmatic isn't always the answer to the long game
Homeschooling - learning happens everywhere, everyday
Being led by kids & their natural interest areas
Building a family rhythm around the personal needs of everyone in the family
Rebuilding normal
Why itâs difficult to be a people pleaser but stay true to yourself
Learning to trust your honesty will be supported & not knocked
Itâs hard to live your normal in an abnormal world - the way we eat, shop treat people
Education of self is the first step in shifting towards taking agency
Why food was her on-ramp to understanding how to make her own decisions
Accepting that a shift in our lives will take time - we each need to take it as we are ready
Transitioning via new skills & a new mindset
Letting this way of living be a lifetime of work
Learning one skill and mastering it each year
Using herbs to heal now and in the future
Learning to get used to people not agreeing with how she lives her life
Making mistakes in safe places while you learn
Learning how to manage microclimates
Building an annual seasonal rhythm to ensure balance
450sq m of intensive growing space for a family of five
300 sq metres managed by the kids
Water bath canning, dehydration
Collecting food waste every week by salvaging food from mainstream supermarkets to supplement her families food
Why she is opting for a house cow not a house goat
Thereâs always next yearâŠ..
Learning to forgive your short comings
Connecting without belonging
How not going to a school was a disadvantage
While she feels at home she doesn't feel like she belongs
Defying the odds of âsurviving this lifeâ & thriving
Finding ways to connect with people who have different ideals
The value of relying on your neighbours - creating a sense of place by calling on your neighbours
Things only move at the speed of trust & a willingness to push through the awkward.
Start where you are with what youâve got
Relying on the building blocks of experienceReferences
Living the dream permaculture
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This conversation is difficult to process but important to hear. It asks: "How does Socioecological justice prevail in the face of an irreversible collapse"?
Its time to accept that infinite growth on a finite planet will be short lived and that those who have agency & privilege have much to do - in big or small ways
Itâs hard to really accept collapse when we have a comfortable lifestyle but let's consider preparing while we still have abundance in our system.Show notes
A new form of activism - possibilities to make the world a better place
Why climate activism is the most important issue of focus
The shift in activism following covid
Introducing disruption to activism
Socioecological justice
Justice can only be relative
Creating a collapse community to help relieve anxieties of reality & locate ourselves
Putting differences aside to open the door to building localised communities
Acknowledging how difficult it can be to create community in the individualised society of the affluent west.
As we ratchet back, our community will be where we physically are.
Having faith that we can rely on each other
Consciously connecting is inevitably in train and we will be pushed together
Relearning to connect, compromise and communicate
Its unhelpful to create utopian or romanticised ideals
Insurgent planning - actively creating a plan of readiness to this inevitable collapse
Being led by the greater group with place based solutions
Why there is no prescription to future solutions - we need to figure that out for ourselves based on our understanding of the soil, water, culture we are working within
Breaking down individualisation & risks: outrageous debts & our reliance on fossil fuels
#talkcollapse - linking people to plant the seeds of a different and just future
Planting seeds physically and metaphorically for a socioecological collapse
Talking collapse is not about converting those who don't want to hear it
The emotional reality of procesing climate grief - face it, expereince it and let is sit behind you with echoes
Depression goes with the territory but its not a reason to avoid reality
Ecological awareness as the foundation to discovering more
Understanding the fragility of the world while also being a âdoerâ
What a cyclical grief process looks like and feels like
Cognitive dissonance of having endless choice and capacity to purchase while simultaneously being aware that collapse is inevitable
The myth of progress being perpetuated by every message around us
The need to decomplexify
Building solidarity via social media
Being sure to remind yourself of how wondrous the world actually is
Supporting mental wellbeing with various tools
Itâs so important in this point in history to embrace life in whatever formReferences
Limits to growth - Club of Rome
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Described as 'all striving no arrivingâŠ' Sarah thrives in the early stages of a movement - feeling her way into the zeitgeist of now & unpacks in ways that resonate with reality. Ultimately driven by curiosity & shunning growth, she talks about Wild Activism as a responsibility of the current age with agency in tact.
Having less fucks to give about speaking her mind & with a bipolar superpower, she shares how she is unlearning & returning to humanity to navigate out of a spiritual PTSD, simulteneously saving but living the fuck out of lifeâ, and why she is off to Paris
Show notes
Taking her cue from International women of strengthOwning her intensityHas the lucky country become more racist and bigoted?Why laid back Aussies donât want their comfort boat rocked by the reality of the less wealthy.Why Aussieâs are aching to not be the anti intellectual country down SouthFeeling into where the pain points are for the humans around herThe story behind donating 100% of the I Quit Sugar profitHer conscious decision to live rather than take her life by stepping into the option of shedding everything and letting go of ALL the things she was attached to.Setting a 5 year goal to be content w not being beholden to the endless desire for more.Trodding her ego into the ground & the outcome thrusting her into growth Every time she releases her grip & lets the flow of life back in - growth prevails.Learning to get engaged & enraged about the climate crisis Turn anxiety into actionWe live in a culture where discomfort & inconvenience thrive yet we feel alive when we are on the edge & pushed out of our comfort zone.Lighting the way back to loveDefining her DharmaFostering indigenous children as a respite carerThe responsibility of steadying yourself when living with anxietyAnxiety can be a super power - hyper vigilant, hyper sensitiveThe evolutionary purpose of anxietyThe rebellious act of bucking the growth paradigmReferences
This wild and precious life - Sarah WilsonHelen Lewis interview with Jordan PetersonHelen Lewis - Difficult WomenFirst we make the beast beautiful - Sarah WilsonSteve Jobs - Commencement SpeechBuy the Book - Futuresteading - Live Like tomorrow matters
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What if all the memories you made as a kid had been replaced by screens? When an aha moment makes you realise that its time to reframe childhood and embrace an analogue life - one that stimulates creativity, imagination and experiences that instill a need to fight for the natural world over technification. With a biological need for at least 3 hours outside every day...the time to replace screen time with green time is now.
Show notesFeeling like she was failing as a mum
Breaking the cycle of raising children on full schedules
âKids are supposed to be outside for 4-6 hours a day when the weather is goodâ - Charlotte Mason
Her first good day as a mum was spent outside as part of a challenge in order to make friends.
How outdoor play enhances every development for children which gives lifelong benefits
Setting our kids up for success simply by spending time outside
Busting screen time statistics
On average kids are on screens for 7 hours a day but only outside for 7 minutes
1200 hours a year outside creating rather than on screen
3 hours of outdoor play for kids of all ages
Keeping children balanced
Rescheduling early childhood
Raising kids who were ruddy, tough, sleeping better
Outdoor play enhances childhood developing in every sense = cognitive, sensorial, emotional
Laying the groundwork so they keep it up
Play that stretches their body and teaches them to trust their bodies and builds endurance, stamina, alertness
Filling our life with the important things first and push out the time that's left over for screens
Itâs never easy to make this your committed approach but itâs worth it
Creating rituals that are intentional
The benefits of being uncomfortable
Why time slows down when you are doing something new and your senses wake up
Building identity via time in the outdoors
If they donât love an analogue life, they wonât fight for it
Building a foundation in kids that they can resist the tech pull
Success is living a fulfilling life that is balanced, connected, maintained ground on values and illusions but grounded and taken day by day
If we live well today then tomorrow will take care of itself
Clothes for the season: Wonders of wool to enable the kids to play for so much longer
Passing down the things = less stuff
Imagination over screens
Nature is enough - it meets us all at the stage we are at
Start right now and be happy to bloom at your own pace which follows your instinct
Trust your kids to create their own pathReferences
1000 hours outside- book, podcast
Charlotte Mason - Childhood educator
Balanced and barefoot - Angela Hanson
Rewilding the urban soul - Claire Dunn
The Comfort Crisis - Michael Easter
The singularity is near - Ray Curswhile
Podcast partners ROCK!
Nutrisoil
Wwoof Aust
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Summary
We know that Western culture lives excessively, endlessly seeking the newest and shiniest new thing. Its shocking that 40% of our food goes to waste, one third of our building materials are never even used. But this way of life will be short lived and thankfully being wasteful is now on the nose and cool cats like Joost are making waves by making junk UBER COOL. What can we do to create a new way forward in what he describes as the most exciting time in human history?
Show notesKeeping family as number one
Keeping it real with family to ensure they are present
His journey through waste which began using other peoples junk
Spending his spare time in junkyards collecting and using other peoples waste
Even the poster boy doesn't get everything right - examples of things that haven't worked
For every project that gets up there are 3 or 4 which didn't - thatâs having a go! And through the Process we discover a new way forward
Attracting like minded people to build a community and deliver amazing projects
Showcasing the innovation and vast knowledge that exists in this country
Creating binless hospitality businesses
Curating the message for living waste free so that people understand it.
Considering materials based on their ability to be recycled
Living in the most exciting time in human history
Getting creative to find solutions that allow us to continue our existing lives with minimal compromise
There's something mentally wrong with us when we endlessly chase the next, new, shiny, big thing.
Being properly nourished and connected to the outdoors satiated our desires and replace our desire for STUFF.
Using plants to support our sleep
Reverting to primitive practices to reconnect to ourselves
Starting our day with simple, natural world practices
If weâve got 3 hours to be on social media, surely weâve got time to make our everyday actions more intentional.
We feel great after gardening not just because its sensorially beautiful but because you are breathing in microbiomes
Observation is a lost trait we need to rebuild
His fascination with the perfect sized branch for birds
All his buildings are covered in 8 mil rio mesh because it's perfect for the birds
If you really want to understand why he makes the decisions he does then check out his instagram pagesReferences
The Greenhouse film -
Future Food System Instagram
Podcast partners ROCK!
Nutrisoil
Wwoof Australia
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If you're yet to hear Mitch perform 'You're the voice", I beg you to head to the link at the bottom and listen.
Carrying the message of unification, love and kindness. Culture is not foreign to Mitch who imbeds a celebration of it into every facet of life as tools to build identity and a strong sense of place. For him living and breathing culture is the start middle and end of it.
An articulate, straight talker he sheds light on why everyone deserves a chance to not only survive but to thrive. His super-power-story-telling ability notches up a few ranks when on stage and over the last few years he has found a platform for passing on knowledge through song and dance.Nerves and awe aside, Jade manages to dig a little into the psyche of this incredible individual, who without question shows us why the first nations people of this country were not hunters and gatherers but the most purposeful people to have ever walked.
Show Notes
Ma-wollagoolabah - self, family, communityFalling in love with his identity and eagerly celebrating this in a respectful and authentic wayThe value of being raised by a strong single motherPublicly honoring women to the point of reverenceBeing relentless in our desire to keep talking to convey a message of transparencyCircle people - we are connected to everything and everything is connected to usCan song and dance as mediums take their place as a much needed storytelling toolsEmojis are an ancient format Humans disconnection from spirit, soul and heartBeing the most connected and the most disconnected simultaneouslyHolidays = connection to the natural world. Do we love holidays or do we love the opportunity to unconsciously connect to our evolutionary placeBuilding an understanding of the spirit in the landOpening yourself up to âfeelâ Honoring our ancestors, offering a rightful seat at the decision table and acknowledging the knowledge held by indigenous people"We're not hunters and gatherers, weâre the most purposeful people to have ever walkedThere are so many conversations to be had - we need to keep talkingHis mob cared for the land to co-exist not to be captured or controlled Walking together and healing so we can get to where we need to get toThe first people of a land MUST be heard first If your hearts in the right place you can only do the best you can with what you've got to âlevelâ upâStradling the reality of living an urban life with intent and purpose while knowing how powerful a childhood on country can beSelf perception vs how others perceive youInstilling identity, belonging and connection through ritualLiving and breathing culture as part of every day lifeAvoiding the traps of fame by staying focussed on his purposeStaying grounded by knowing that he is just a vessel with a message who is part of something so much bigger than himStarting with self love - heal, educateConditioning that has bred fear of differenceComing together with an intent to heal, love and listen. Having real conversations which are birthed out of truth
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Mitch Tambo - You're the Voice
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This heart led Mumma of three has been luring us with images of a dreamy, bloom filled life on her Daylesford apple orchard & words of equal romance via her craft blog for over a decade. She laughs easily, has found balance in being real & makes the simplest of thoughts feel like genuine aha moments. Kate Ulman is wrenchingly honest about the reality of farm life with young children, turning inwards when self care is needed & whether her babies will return to life on the land. Although not at her kitchen table, the intimacy of this conversation feels very personal & will leave your cup full & your heart nourished.
Episode notes
Seeing your home the way others doRealising she is driven by making, creating & beautyTaking an ugly foundation & making it âbeautifulâ slowly & sureThe essence of a creative soul raising more creative beingsEvolving with our children who are becoming the people they are going to beCreating a âplaceâ for our childrenThe impact of an early childhood experience on a kibbutzLearning to farm at 30 & retrospectively being amazed they could do itGrowing things organically was our religion but we actually didnât know howLife before social media - 10 years of âuglinessâ because we could afford the beautiful Sharing the raw truth of life on the land with a small familyExpectation vs realitySeasonal appreciationâEvery season is another chance to get last years mistakes betterâThe annual pre Winter crises & assessment of realityPre farming life as a crafter & bloggerAcknowledging there's a time & place for everythingFiling your soul with the small &simple things but being realistic about doing whats possibleBeing kind about expectationsâBeing a martyr & running yourself ragged is NOT the solution but being aware & keeping it joyful means you can do it foreverâSaying âI don't knowâ comfortablyWhen we take our actions so seriously that it puts other people including the next generation off ever wanting to participate in something worth doing Letting go of the little things like baking bread for the sake of the bigger pictureActively engaging with community wherever a snippet can be garneredPutting her energies into writing a bookTaking back her families story so it wasnât available to the world onlineRediscovering herself post early childhood mother-domBeing the complete opposite of organisedCreating a plan for âolder lifeâ so the love of the farming life continuesWhy bigger is not better. The active vision to make things simplerWhy her mum is her greatest inspiration for her approach to motherhoodHow she became the encourager of creativityDaily exclamation marks of ritual elude her because she follows inspiration insteadWhy her good intentions for ritual get forgottenWhy deep diving quickly into real conversations is important to herHer definition of success as living her truth & being filled with honesty, creativity, availability to the things she cares about Having the confidence to live from your heartGifting your future self by thinking aheadReferences
Foxâs Lane
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Strap in for a fast paced chat with this natural born story teller. From the heady heights of top restaurants, starring in his own reality tv program and radio shows to his definition of âenoughâ - which begins with rude health and healthy kids before settling with sovereignty of time and community belonging.
As practical and grounded as he is charismatic with a touch of aussie larrikin, âWestyâ is whip cracking fast making it easy to listen and laugh at his tales - like serving uncooked rice as his first attempt at cooking.
This high energy human wraps up the season for us with insights and stories that are endearing and inspiring in equal measure.
Episode notesChoosing your island foods
Are you an eater or a foodie ?- Westie grew up as an eater until he was 17 before becoming a foodie
Embalmed cats above the fresh food aisles at the local supermarket
Moving from his first out-of-home cooked meal: Raw rice, frozen peas, ham and soy sauce to cheffing in lofty places
His first wwoofing experience that sowed the seeds for his âNOWâ life:
Witnessing the loftiest ideal for human life as life on the land growing food, connecting to community, physical work
His winding but whip fast hospitality adventure
Using the age good food guide as a way to get a job and crash landing into Vu De Monde to cut his teeth
Turning his back on fine dining cuisine to return to the roots of growing food.
A yearning desire to really understand the rhythms of food
How fatherhood changed him, from self to selfless. Why he never wanted to be a âphone inâ dad
Reframing his expectations of fatherhood for him, his kids and his wife.
Creating patterns to set up our kids for the rest of their lives and using food as the central guide for this
The virtues of tapping into the primal human nature.
Transitioning from kitchen to farm grew his understanding of long standing ecological needs.
River Cottage - the inside scoop on the steep learning curves and truth behind producing a reality TV program. The juggle of actually living a 365 day farm life but needing to fit in the production of a stage production alongside.
The hard work of farming! Far from white clothed lunches under a tree
The repetition needed for growing
Now living a life that's the amalgamation of his previous lives
Creating a life of belonging in a village across generations
The perfect combo of small-house big block.
Building ritual around food markers, what the gardens providing, when the crayfish and oysters are harvesting,
Making an effort to observe the natural spectacles and building ritual around it
His ENOUGH
References:
Aftertaste ABC Series
River Cottage Australia SBS on demand series
The Edible Garden Cookbook and Growing Guide - Paul West 2013Support the show
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Sharing her evolution from academic keyboard warrior to her current reality of being an agroecological pork and beef farmer who's pretty darned handy with the butchers knife and equally as sharp of mind in her contributions to the UN small scale farming policy initiatives.
We dive right into how she fits it all inLeadership - her style of leading from the front with doggedness and squared soldiersResearch and UN food systems mobilisation Credibility that comes out of the dirtHer commitment to food sovereignty across aaaalllllll the tiers of the movementThe brain breaking need to relate local practices to global policyLinking good global initiatives to local practicesApplying food sovereignty thinking to general consumption issuesTaking power back one skill at a timeWe canât buy ourselves out of this mess - we literally need to joyfully work competently through the upskilling and sharing of The illusion of choice when you see thousands of items for sale in a supermarket is not a place to genuinely beginWhy she considers herself an âagroecologicalâ farmer (political, social, Agroecological theory of change is considered a science, social movement and practical - dedicated to circular bio economies rather than a purchasing of inputs. Agroecology rejects capitalism but values labour over yield.âBenefactionâ - enabling the farm to do their tasks joyfullyThe rich reality of running internship programs - who are welcomed with the knowledge that they are becoming food sovereignty warriorsAFSA - first-peoples-first initiativeSolidarity - garnering unexplained wholeness but remembering we are all here for each otherWhy there's value in building a new system rather than creating one from the ashes of the old one.Why the rise and fall of farms and community orgs is part and parcel of the movement and should be encouragedBeing comfortable to share the successes AND the failures as a gift for the greater goodBuilding a de-growth mentality to avoid the ruthless capitalist systemCreating small scale farming businesses that are FUN rather than slaves to growthKeeping her eye on the end game dilutes her need to be binary and rage filledWhy the States are not actually similar to the Australian culture - they are wedded to a growth mentality that we don't have so we have an opportunity to learn from their mistakes.Why itâs ok to scale back from the initial visionFraming âenoughâ as being disentangled from the capitalist system - seeing the sky, feeding her community and others and being ok to go slow when needed.
Tammi Jonas is indeed a force of the natural world, never backwards in coming forwards but mellowing with every decade and sharing her successes and failures for the sake of thousands who are following in her footsteps towards a life of farming democracy.
Episode SummaryReferences
Jonai Farms
Righteous Porkchop: Finding a Life and Good Food Beyond Factory Farms
Farming democracy
Australian Food Sovereignty AllianceThanks to our podcast partners:
Wwoof Australia
Nutrisoil
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Brooke McAlary has built a life and brand around slow. She's the author of three books, the co-host of The Slow Home podcast and the voice of a movement that says, "Dear Joneses, I'm opting out of the rat race."
But hey, that doesn't mean she's exempt from overwhelm. This convo opens with Brooke and Jade swapping stories of exhaustion. File that under honesty.So join us on the couch as we define our zone zero, get our inner turmoil sorted before facing the outer chaos, and discuss a potential inner care deficit.
We talk packaged up versions of âbalanceâ âslowâ and âsimpleâ and why âtiltingâ may be more useful; leaning into the most pressing issue of the moment.
Why multi tasking is a farce but barefoot bushwalking creates a heady sense of lightness, wonder and awe that just might hold the answers.
Why her books and pod are basically talking to herself to maintain a slower paceBeing diagnosed with severe postnatal depression Googling in search of solutionsLetting go of the relentless âkeep upâ approach to lifeStabilising mental health and finding a deeper sense of contentmentLiving life with no bufferOperating at 70% capacity to ensure thereâs room for unplannedDefining and protecting zone zeroGetting the inner turmoil sorted before facing the outer chaosAvoiding an inner care deficitThe intrinsic link between inward care and capacity to give Why the words 'balance', 'simple' and 'slow' are all fraughtThe endless wrestle of living counter culturally Learning to âtiltâ rather than âbalanceâThe fraudulence of multi taskingExperiencing a loss of connection, celebration and grieving as a result of covidFacing into the need for âunlearningâ to build a brave new non-consumerist worldBuilding your tribe without preaching Equating simple with âeaseâ not âeasyâ Why simplicity lives in the process of finding easeNoticing = gratitudeFamily rituals that offer hopeBarefoot bushwalking on a bliss waveA designated slow room Reconciling the footprint of travel by embracing her local areaVision Quests Why small actions of care, purpose and values are creating powerful ripples Rebuilding rites of passage for our youth to test and expand resilience and tap into the wisdom from older generationsWriting a letter to your younger selfJump starting our memory making function
Say no to fast and yes to slow living with Brooke McAlary.
SHOW NOTESLINKS YOU'LL LOVE
ZenHabitsSlow - Brooke McAlaryDestination Simple - Brooke McAlaryCare - Brooke McAlaryRites of passage instituteAlone - SBS seriesVision Quest ChallengesSupport the show
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Damon Gameau - A call to arms for storytellers!
It's time to shine the spotlight on our story tellers; the creatives, film makers, artists, poets, chefs, writers and musicians. "If our storytellers cannot find a way then the way cannot be found". Join Jade & Damon in this conversation about defying the attention economy, ways to avoid being numbed but the inertia of the system (which is not actually our friend - despite it being dressed up that way) and why rites of passage could be the answer to rebuilding our culture .
Finally, we ask the big question - how do you define ENOUGH.
If you've loved Damon's films 2040 & That Sugar Film you're in for one exceptionally powerful convo with this captivating & clever creative.Episode Summary
People are seeking leadership that doesnât use language without humanisation
So much of the story we are told now is dictated by extraction, competition, rivalry,
The shift from humans with animus beliefs to industrialised beliefs
Defining our collective stories through the feedback from our creative & soul stirring storytellers
Defying the attention economy by stepping away from the barraging information torrent to allow for conscious decisions
Finding your place in action
Choosing to understand rather than polarising
Slowing our judgement despite the push for pace - let a slowly defined opinion be yours Acknowledging we agree on a desire for community, healthy children, access to foodâŠ.and we are not actually divided
Taking responsibility of our own individual actions and teach our children to listen & to understand
Why its NOT human nature to be greedy & selfish, because we've evolved through a deeply cooperative, symbiotic spirit.
Rewrite our culture away from competitive nature & highlight our dependency on each other Finding your path of individualism within the collective
Deradicalising the truth of what we need to do
Considering context when storytelling to shift the needle
Building a less fragile system
Why itâs not a nationalist sentiment if you want sovereignty of independence
Shifting from being a consumer to being a citizen
Building wings that will allow us to fly high and thrive with our culture providing the wind
Manifesting creativity and ingenuity by working with our kids
Shaping, creating and changing culture through coexistence, lateral thinking and practical skills - starting with the education of our children
The dance between peril and possibility
Turning emerging science into magical stories to captivate kids imaginations
Prison inmates in the States spend more time outdoors than our children
The ongoing process of unlearning as flawed humans
Deciding whatâs enough. Do you keep working beyond your enough to go slower or do you keep going to give to others.
Rites of passage as a pathway to regeneration
Ayahuasca ceremonies, breath work
Taking a glimpse into the âotherâ to fill the gap left by a crises of meaningReferences
âSurviving the future, culture, carnival and capitalâ - David Flemming
Rites of Passage Institute
Recapture the Rapture - rethinking god, sex and death in a world that's lost its mind - Jamie Wheal
2040 Film - Directed by Damon
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