Geraldine Challenges Her PrejudiceLong Distance Call add
Geraldine is in Victoria for a special interview with the indigenous opera singer Deborah Cheetham.
Geraldine loved the interview and the natural beauty of the country that Ms Cheetham nominated as her 'sacred space'.
The three days away in rural Victoria highlighted some uncomfortable truths for Geraldine: she was carrying bias and prejudice that she hadn't previously confronted.
The podcast then moves to discussion of women move onto discussion of the Middle East and Eliza admits she needs a bit more help at home on the domestic front.
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Australian Government hackedhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-18/prime-minister-scott-morrison-cyber-attack-hackers/10821170
Heroes of JournalismLong Distance Call add
It’s been a bright week for journalism amidst an otherwise bleak landscape.
Money is being pumped back into the industry from various philanthropic sources in Australia to support investigations and inquiry.
Eliza is reading about one of the legends of the job, Seymour Hersh. He broke the story about the horrific My Lai massacre in the Vietnam War, the first of many groundbreaking investigations.
It prompts Eliza and her Mum Geraldine to discuss their heroes and the future of the industry today.
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Crikey’s new investigations team
The Neilson Foundationhttps://neilsonfoundation.org.au
Commentary on the Neilson Foundationhttps://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/nov/28/philanthropist-judith-neilson-to-fund-a-100m-institute-for-journalism-in-sydney
Seymour Hersh – Killing Bin Ladenhttps://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour-m-hersh/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden
One Hundred Years of Dirt – Rick Morton
Jonathan Swan - Axioshttps://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/04/business/media/jonathan-swan-axios-profile.html
Laura Tingle – Follow the Leader Quarterly Essayhttps://www.quarterlyessay.com.au/essay/2018/09/follow-the-leader
Chris Masters – The Moonlight State 1987https://www.abc.net.au/4corners/the-moonlight-state---1987/2832198
Fran Kelly – ABC Radio Nationalhttps://www.abc.net.au/radionational/fran-kelly/2913202
News JunkiesLong Distance Call add
Everyone's talking about the Banking Royal Commission in Australia this week.
Geraldine has covered it closely. She hates the "gotcha" news cycle and feels much of the coverage has been populist and lacked context.
But Eliza had a very frustrating experience with her bank recently. She understands people's frustrations and the notion that bankers have been greedy while real wages stalled.
In Lebanon, there are concerns about a run on the banks because the economy is so fragile. Eliza tells her mum about the new Lebanese Government and the latest in Middle Eastern politics.
And then there's the normal LDC chat about TV, movies and podcasts.
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Lebanon Forms New Government - NYThttps://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/31/world/middleeast/lebanon-new-government-hezbollah.html
The Angel - Netflixhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt5968274/
Who the Hell is Hamish?https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/who-the-hell-is-hamish/id1451470931?mt=2&app=podcast
Australian soccer player Hakeem al-Araibihttps://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/please-don-t-send-me-back-australian-soccer-player-faces-thai-court-20190204-p50vk1.html
Childhood Has ChangedLong Distance Call add
This episode follows on from last week's conversation about Normal People by Sally Rooney.
Eliza loved it! She got all the cultural references and believed that the intimate scenes told us so much about the immature young lovers.
As opposed to Geraldine who thought the book was good, but certainly not great.
"Normal People" and its themes of about society and class division sparked a broader conversation about childhood in the 21st century. Geraldine read a special report in the Economist about childhood (it's available on the Facebook page Long Distance Callers). That report cited evidence to show that childhood has changed radically, radically altering life as a parent too.
Finally, Geraldine has a rant about the narrow use of the english language and Eliza wonders if Ottolenghi is all he's cracked up to be.
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Normal People - Sally Rooneyhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Normal-People-Sally-Rooney/dp/0571347290
The Guardian on Normal Peoplehttps://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/sep/01/normal-people-sally-rooney-review
ABC Radio All In The Mindhttps://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/allinthemind/shame:-the-ups-and-downs/10739510
The Kondo Craze & Sex In BooksLong Distance Call add
Geraldine has returned to work this week and everyone is talking Kondo.
But neither Geraldine or Eliza are sure about this method of personal makeover. Might it add to people's sense of domestic failure? Is it a sustainable model in the busy modern world? The verdict is out.
And please don't suggest throwing out books. This is a heresy to both women.
Geraldine has just returned from a holiday to Tasmania where she finished the bestseller "Normal People" by Sally Rooney. People are raving about it but Geraldine thought it was a bit lazy. She wonders whether the sex was a distraction from the character development?
Eliza cites the Bernhard Schlink book "The Reader" as an example where sex was crucial to the story, but didn't swamp it.
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The Gentle Art of Swedish Death Cleaning - Margareta Magnussonhttps://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Gentle-Art-of-Swedish-Death-Cleaning/Margareta-Magnusson/9781501173240
Normal People - Sally Rooney
The Reader - Bernhard Schlinkhttps://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/161962/the-reader-by-bernhard-schlink/9780375707971/readers-guide/
Eliza Whinges About BeirutLong Distance Call add
It's cold, it's wet, it's wintery, the schools are closed ... and Eliza is having a whinge about her new city.
Geraldine is just back from a wonderful holiday in Queensland and will jet off to Tasmania in the coming week.
The women also talk about the latest from Brexit and the big political shifts in the Middle East.
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Best of 2018Long Distance Call add
Christmas is approaching!
In this episode, Eliza and Geraldine discuss their "Best Of" 2018 covering books, podcasts, journalism, tv and music.
Eliza is limping to the finish line with a few days remaining before she boards the flight home. Forget the challenge of moving countries, the biggest headache has been dealing with her Australian mortgage lender from afar.
She's most satisfied by seeing her children making friends and happily settling in to their new city.
Geraldine has successfully moved house with her sanity intact. Just. But she loves her new place and feels a great sense of satisfaction with the move behind her.
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Rise and Kill First – Ronen Bergman
A Legacy of Spies – John Le Carre
Eleanor Oliphant is Completely Fine – Gail Honeymoon
The Library of Ice by Nancy Campbell –https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/saturdayextra/the-arctic-and-a-poet,-stories-from-a-cold-climate/10609862
H is for Hawk
TV - A Very English Scandal
Essay – England’s Dreaming – Fintan O’Toole – Prospect Magazinehttps://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/englands-dreaming-fintan-otoole-brexit-ulysses
Slow Burn Clinton Impeachment (Episode 8)https://slate.com/slow-burn
Ben McIntyre – The Spy and the Traitor
Boy Swallows Universe – Trent Dalton
Normal People – Sally Rooneyhttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/37539457-normal-people
NYT Investigation into Donald Trump’s suspect tax schemeshttps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
The Lead-Up To ChristmasLong Distance Call add
In two weeks Eliza and her family will be boarding a plane to celebrate Christmas in Australia.
So is Geraldine ready for the Silly Season?
The answer is…sort of.
Geraldine has had a busy month moving house. She’s planning to decorate the Christmas tree this weekend.
Eliza tells her to chill and forget about the bells and whistles this year.
Christmas is a different celebration in the Northern Hemisphere. It’s considered a small break, rather than the formal end of the working year. And therefore it seems less pressured than Australia.
The women pivot from Christmas cheer to President George H Bush's funeral in America.
His son, President George W Bush gave a terrific eulogy and Eliza believes the Trump era has prompted a re-think about the man once considered a bumbling fool.
In a fortnight Eliza and her Mum will do a “Best of 2018” wrap. Please get in touch with your favourite books, tv shows and podcasts via the Facebook page (Long Distance Callers) or email email@example.com with your list.
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British Government appoints Minister for Lonelinesshttp://time.com/5248016/tracey-crouch-uk-loneliness-minister/
President George W Bush delivers his father's eulogyhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/06/george-w-bush-delivers-eulogy-at-his-fathers-funeral-full-text
The Edith Trilogy - Frank Moorhousehttps://smsa.org.au/limelight/the-edith-trilogy-by-frank-moorhouse-grand-days-dark-palace-and-cold-light/
Chit-Chat & Serious StuffLong Distance Call add
There's a bit of everything in this week's podcast.
Indonesian authorities have determined that the Lion Air plane that crashed into the sea off Jakarta airport shouldn't have been allowed to fly. Geraldine and Eliza regret the horrible loss of life and discuss some of the perils of travelling in Indonesia.
Back in Australia, the Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews crushed the Opposition at the weekend election. It was an emphatic victory for Labor and a vote against the Conservative's strategy. But Geraldine believes Australia is becoming more fragmented. She doesn't necessarily see the electoral trends from Victoria continuing through to the Federal Election next May.
And then it's time Ferrante Fever. The Good Weekend Magazine in Australia published an article about the screen adaptation of Elena Ferrante's novel "My Brilliant Friend". There was some great feedback on the Facebook group. And it emerged that Geraldine didn't devour the trilogy as Eliza thought.
Eliza and her Mum talk about women's friendships, creativity after motherhood and what makes successful female leaders. Eliza has just finished listening to Michelle Obama who is an inspirational woman.
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Finding Elena Ferrante "It was like working with a ghost"https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/finding-elena-ferrante-it-was-like-working-with-a-ghost-20181120-p50h3x.html
Michelle Obama & Oprahhttp://www.oprah.com/app/super-soul-sunday.html
Jeremy Bowen War Storieshttps://www.amazon.co.uk/War-Stories-Jeremy-Bowen/dp/0743449681
Geraldine Joins The Journalism Hall of FameLong Distance Call add
Geraldine was inducted into the Melbourne Press Club’s Journalism Hall of Fame last week along with other legends like Ray Martin and Andrew Olle.
Geraldine reflects on the fun night and the path she’s taken to get to reach the pinnacle of the industry.
Eliza consumes most of her journalism through newspapers and podcasts these days. But last week she tuned into the BBC World Service live and was reminded of the very high standard of its broadcasters. That prompts the women to get stuck down a rabbit hole about Brexit, before they come up for air and discuss Facebook and its flaws.
Geraldine is still unpacking boxes and has promised to have watched some of the “The Bodyguard” on Netflix before next week’s call.
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Melbourne Press Clubhttps://halloffame.melbournepressclub.com/article/geraldine-doogue
Saturday Extra: Geraldine talks to former Victorian Premier Jeff Kennetthttps://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/saturdayextra/politics-and-culture/10504434
Legendary Melbourne crime reporter John Silvesterhttps://www.theage.com.au/by/john-silvester-hvejs
One Crowded Hour - Tim Bowdenhttps://www.booktopia.com.au/one-crowded-hour-tim-bowden/prod9780732297336.html
Highways to a War - Christopher Kochhttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/842712.Highways_to_a_War
Ted talk: 10 ways to have a better conversationhttps://www.ted.com/talks/celeste_headlee_10_ways_to_have_a_better_conversation/up-next?language=en
Anne Summers - ABC Conversationshttps://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/conversations/anne-summers/7756750
New York Times Facebook investigationhttps://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/14/technology/facebook-data-russia-election-racism.html
Geraldine packs up in Sydney, Eliza unpacks in BeirutLong Distance Call add
Geraldine has spent her final night in the family home.
She's feeling a bit sentimental but knows she's ready for the move.
Meanwhile Eliza has finally received her shipment of furniture, almost five months after leaving her old home in Indonesia. It's such a relief. But her house is full of boxes.
The discussion moves on to the US MidTerm elections, tribalism, what it takes to join the elite forces of the Australian army, ISIS and the new BBC miniseries that's gripping the world.
Neil Prakash the Australian ISIS recruiter now in jail in Turkeyhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-20/islamic-state-terrorist-neil-prakash-could-be-released-from-jail/10016444
Line of Dutyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of_Duty
Anne with an Ehttps://www.netflix.com/lb-en/title/80136311
Extract from The Great Cave Rescuehttps://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/we-didn-t-expect-all-13-out-alive-inside-the-thai-cave-rescue-20181106-p50e84.html
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Geraldine Visits BeirutLong Distance Call add
It's a special LDC this week because Geraldine and Eliza are together!
Adam makes a guest appearance too.
The trio eat at one of Beirut's best Italian restaurants https://www.zomato.com/beirut/tavolina-mar-mikhael and then it's onto a very cool cocktail bar. http://www.anisebar.com
Check out our Facebook page "Long Distance Callers" for some pictures of Geraldine's trip.
Are Women Getting Angrier?Long Distance Call add
Eliza is reading the new Liane Moriarty book "Nine Perfect Strangers". One of the themes is women's rage and frustration with life. It's a recurring message in Moriarty's novels which explore the complex lives of the suburban "Mum". Eliza thinks the anger stems from the crunch between personal career ambitions and private domestic duties. It leaves little time for joy.
Somehow, the notion of "having it all" has been re-cast as a bit greedy. Women are told they shouldn't aim for personal and professional bliss all at once. "You can't have it all, just not at the same time." Which may be true, but prompts Eliza to wonder what women are willing to give up?
The truth is that Eliza found motherhood much more fun when she gave herself time to enjoy it.
Geraldine thinks women are angrier than generations past, or possibly more willing to be honest about it in public. But she also acknowledges that there are many societal pressures making that work/life juggle harder than before.
It wouldn't be a Long Distance Call without discussion of international news and politics. This week Geraldine and Eliza have been horrified by the grizzly murder of a Saudi journalist at his own embassy in Turkey.
The Opera House Is Not A BillboardLong Distance Call add
Does advertising belong on the Sydney Opera House?
How about advertising for a horse race?
Eliza and Geraldine hate the idea, as do thousands of others. But it’s gone ahead and prompted a debate about how the demands of big business should be weighed up against the protection of the important cultural icon.
The controversy was augmented by a particularly nasty exchange between Sydney broadcaster influential broadcaster Alan Jones and the Chief Executive of the Opera House.
Eliza and Geraldine discuss the disgraceful interview (the audio has been posted on the Facebook page ‘Long Distance Callers’). And Geraldine reveals that many years ago she used to work very closely with Jones at a commercial radio station.
In other news, Geraldine is still basking in the glory of selling her house. She’s waking up early to pack it up, including the spare room with many of Eliza’s old school memorabilia and high heels!
The things we do to our parents.
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The Everest horses Alan Jones will have his eyes onhttps://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/the-everest-horses-alan-jones-will-have-his-eye-on-20181006-p5086j.html
RN Breakfast: Outdoor ad industry says Opera House is not a billboardhttp://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/outdoor-ad-industry-says-opera-house-not-a-billboard/10354272
Peter Fitzsimons: Gladys, how could you?https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/have-your-race-leave-the-opera-house-alone-20181006-p50859.html
Geraldine Sells Her HomeLong Distance Call add
Geraldine has sold her home! Hooray! It's been a white-knuckle time.
She broke the rules of real estate by buying a new home before selling her current place. The Sydney market has dipped recently adding to the stress.
Geraldine began the moving process this week by emptying old red wine bottles down the sink. Eliza is mortified by the waste and can’t believe her Mum has given Merlot the flick.
Eliza is back in Beirut after a brief holiday in Australia for her Dad’s birthday. She’s caught up on books and TV as well as the incredible Supreme Court nomination hearings out of the America.
Finally, Eliza tells Geraldine about some criticism on the Facebook page, which she takes on the chin! Just type “Long Distance Callers” in the search function on your Facebook page to join the discussion.
Playground at HMAS Platypus Sydneyhttps://concreteplayground.com/sydney/arts-entertainment/sub-base-platypus-sydney-harbour-park/
*FEAR: Trump in the Whitehousehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear:_Trump_in_the_White_House
President Trump mocks Christine Blasey Fordhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45727618
ABC: Lebanon says Israel may be preparing to strike targets in Beiruthttp://www.abc.net.au/radio/sydney/programs/worldtoday/lebanon-says-israel-may-be-preparing-to-strike-targets-in-beirut/10333236
Kavanaugh and the Starr Inquiryhttps://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/20/us/politics/brett-kavanaugh-clinton-starr.html
Slow Burn podcasthttps://slate.com/slow-burn
Any Ordinary Day – Leigh Saleshttps://www.penguin.com.au/books/any-ordinary-day-9780143789963
*Eleanor Oliphant is Completely Finehttps://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/540586/eleanor-oliphant-is-completely-fine-by-gail-honeyman/9780735220690/
Nine Perfect Strangers Liane Moriartyhttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39280445-nine-perfect-strangers
More on Liane Moriartyhttp://lianemoriarty.com.au
McMafia - TV Serieshttps://www.amc.com/shows/mcmafia
Succession TV Series (HBO)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_(TV_series)
Troubles – JG Farrellhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubles_(novel)
WashupLong Distance Call add
The podcast begins with reaction to the startling news out of Australia that the Managing Director of the ABC – Michelle Guthrie – was sacked on Monday.
Geraldine believes there are lessons to learned about running the public broadcaster in the 21st century. And perhaps even some lessons for women seeking big leadership roles too.
Eliza had a funny encounter at Beirut airport over the weekend with some Australian men who were back in Lebanon for curious reasons.
She’s back to Australia on a flying visit this week for her Dad’s 70th birthday. Eliza and Geraldine plan to sneak in a quick meal on Saturday night after watching the AFL Grand Final.
Why the ABC Board sacked Michelle Guthrie
Mark Day’s interview with Fran Kelly
MI5 and Me – Charlotte Binghamhttps://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/mar/07/mi5-and-me-by-charlotte-bingham-review-a-coronet-among-the-spooks-
Life Is All About Changing Your MindLong Distance Call add
Eliza’s son Sean started school this week. It’s a big week in any family but made harder by moving to the other side of the world. Eliza thought she’d be skipping through the streets with glee after the long three month break. But it was upsetting and she spent the morning worrying if he was ok.
He was, of course. But sometimes life doesn't turn out like you planned.
It’s those unexpected reactions and feelings which change our opinions on the big issues. Geraldine thinks life is all about changing your mind. Recently she received an email from the former Governor General Bill Hayden, inviting her to his baptism. Yes, that’s right, the former aggressive atheist was converting to Catholicism at 85.
He’d changed his mind. And it prompts a conversation about why that’s not prized in Australian politics. It seems voters are more attracted to those who stick to their views regardless of the circumstances.
Eliza finish this week's episode with the best of the Facebook group “Long Distance Callers” and muse about the best conditions to grow roses and bougainvillea.
Rome Exhibition in Canberrahttp://www.nma.gov.au/exhibitions/rome-city-and-empire
Bob Carr Run For Your Lifehttps://www.mup.com.au/books/run-for-your-life-electronic-book-text
Middle Eastern food:Shane Delia: Lebanonhttp://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/blueprintforliving/sense-of-place:-shane-delia,-lebanon/10246408
Are women ready to crack eggs?Long Distance Call add
No, this is not a podcast about cooking or fertility, but about what it takes for women to succeed at work.
The episode begins with a discussion about Geraldine’s television interview with the man known as “Mao’s Last Dancer”. Li Cunxin is a brilliant Chinese ballet dancer who is now running the Queensland Ballet. He’s a fascinating man with an incredible discipline, which prompts a discussion about how discipline and a systematic approach to life can be very useful for your career. Right up until the point where you have to be willing to break those rules and structures if they’re holding you back.
Then it’s onto Julie Bishop’s failed tilt at political leadership in Australia. And the ongoing challenge to British PM Teresa May by Boris Johnson: foppish cad turned Chief Wrecker.
Eliza finishes with an update on the homeless Syrian boy who sleeps rough outside her Beirut apartment. Eliza and her family are making rapid progress establishing their new lives in Lebanon, except for a slight glitch last weekend which will go down in family folklore as the time the great Beirut project nearly fell apart.
Compass Sacred Space interviews: ABC TV
Geraldine Doogue: The Climb.https://www.textpublishing.com.au/books/the-climb
Geraldine talks Brexit on ABC Saturday Extrahttp://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/saturdayextra/brexit-mess/10215238
Matthew Parris’ scathing anti-Boris colums are behind the Times paywall. So here’s a link in the Guardian.
Documentary: Three Identical Strangers.
First ImpressionsLong Distance Call add
Geraldine and Eliza are back for their first Long Distance Call from Beirut to Sydney.
Beirut is a beautiful city full of cool people who are obsessed with food. Beirutis are loud, emotional, warm and very friendly. Most corners of the city are a reminder of the country's turbulent past and trouble across the border in Syria. A truly fascinating place!
It's also dysfunctional and full of bureaucratic challenges. Eliza thinks she's aged twenty years in the past month alone.
Geraldine reveals her first impressions of life under a the new Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison. She's still in a bit of shock about all the political upheaval and doesn't think the country will be richer for it.
In true LDC style the women finish up on a lighter note. Do you wear sunscreen under your makeup? No, Geraldine doesn't either.
Season 2: Countdown to BeirutLong Distance Call add
Eliza has been staying with Geraldine for the past five weeks. And they're still on speaking terms!
This episode is a wrap of the holiday's greatest hits: the Fourth Estate documentary on the New York Times, Ken Burns' Vietnam War and the latest on American politics.
Oh and there's a healthy dose of chat about the perils of growing your hair and personal grooming.
We hope to have an episode next week, but Eliza isn't sure if the internet will connected in her new home. Fingers crossed.
Thanks for listening!