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Ever wondered what's on the mind of a leader when they're working with someone from Gen Z like you?
In this episode, we're going to give you an inside look at how leaders think when they're trying to engage and motivate someone from your generation.
This show is all about breaking down what goes on behind the scenes to make Gen Z-Gen X working relationships successful.
Join us as we dive into the world of leadership through the unique partnership of Coco Brown, the Founder and CEO of Athena Alliance, and Brit De Visser, the Chief of Staff at The Athena Alliance.
Through their honest conversation, you'll get to peek behind the curtain and see how Coco, an experienced leader, keeps someone as talented as Brit (gen Z) engaged and excited about their work.
Coco embodies the kind of leader you aspire to work with, and by listening in, you'll gain valuable insights into how leaders like her think and make decisions.
This episode is your open door to expanding your connections....
So, put aside those textbooks for a moment, turn up the volume, and get ready to explore the world of leadership and Gen Z engagement with Brit De Visser and Coco Brown!
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Embrace Transparency and DialogueIn our conversation, Britt emphasizes the importance of open communication and alignment between a company's mission and an employee's personal goals.
"I think it's really about transparency and dialogue. If you can align your company's mission and vision with their personal goals, it's just a win-win." — Britt de VisserThis alignment can lead to mutually beneficial outcomes...
"When you give somebody autonomy and trust, you're essentially saying, 'I trust that you know how to get to the destination. I don't need to map out every step of the journey for you.'" — Coco BrownOn the other hand, Coco highlights the value of trust and autonomy in empowering employees.
Trusting them to find their own way to achieve goals can be more effective than micromanaging.
Britt underscores that Gen Z individuals are often motivated by aligning their personal goals with a company's mission.
Trust and goal alignment can be key to their success.
Shift to a Partnership MindsetI get to ask Coco’s thought on the importance of Gen Z employees...
and she stresses that Gen Z should be treated as partners and granting them autonomy and trust.
This approach fosters a sense of ownership and collaboration.
"With Gen Z, it's more of a partnership where you're saying, 'I trust that you have a unique perspective, unique skills, and unique ideas, and I want to leverage that. I want to harness that.'" — CocoCoco highlights the shift towards a partnership mindset when working with Gen Z, acknowledging their unique contributions and ideas as valuable assets.
"It's not just, 'Hey, come here and do this task,' it's, 'Come here and let's collaborate on how we can achieve this goal together.'" — CocoShe emphasizes the importance of collaboration and shared goal setting when working with Gen Z...
moving away from a purely task-based approach, and the need for a more flexible and non-structured approach in today's world, aligning with the evolving nature of work and society.
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Welcome Rebels! 🤘😎
If you've been following our podcast rebrand and caught the excitement in the air
You already know we're not just a podcast... 🔥💥
We're a dynamic community and a powerful movement.
This is for high schoolers or a gap year student with a unique perspective...
We hope you've joined the vibrant d'Skills community already, too! 😉
Today, Swetha Tandri and I will unravel the real "why" behind this journey
From launching this show and its vitality...
Plus, the 10 commandments that shape the very essence of the d’Skills community.
Buckle up, because this episode marks the beginning of an extraordinary voyage into the world of skills, empowerment, and a different mindset.
Are you ready? Let's dive in! 🎧🌟
Welcome to the groundbreaking inaugural episode of d'Skills in Action! 🚀
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Our 10 d’Skills Community Commandments:
Skills Over Scores: We believe that real-world skills, mindsets, and impacts say infinitely more about who we are than test scores and GPAs. Progress over Perfectionism: We believe that mistakes are ESSENTIAL to grow and build resilience to succeed, and that we should welcome them in our lives. Courage Over Conformity: We believe in the power of courage and tenacity to break the mold and defy the status quo. Impact Now: We believe that we don't have to wait until we’re older to make a real impact in the world on real businesses and real problems. Community Over Competition: We believe in the strength of community to uplift, encourage, and educate one another, rather than just competing for “top spots”. Pathway-Inclusive: We believe that whatever pathway you're on—college, no college, technical school, entrepreneurship, or something entirely different—d’Skills are vital to launch you into a fulfilling, best version of yourself. Different OVER Better: We follow our different. Forge Our Path: We believe that everyone has the opportunity to learn from this community and carve out their own unique career path. Digital Tools, Infinite Potential: We believe Native Digitals are unstoppable when we harness the power of digital resources and AI technology. Real World, Real Skills: We believe that real learning happens when you begin with a real-world impact you want to make, and work backwards. In our community, we don't just learn; we apply and impact the real world.
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If you're in high school, you probably spend a lot of time buried in textbooks, but don't really know how your skills could apply to the real world. Trust me, I get it. It can be daunting to build skills and take them outside the classroom. That's why we started this show. Welcome to d'Skills in Action, the show where we help you get the d'Skills you need to impact the real world, not just ace a test or rely on a degree.
I'm your cohost, Hannah Grady Williams. I'm 25 and I'm the brain behind d’Skills and alongside me is Swetha Tandri. She's 20 and she's the founder of Melodies for Math. Both of us have forged our own career paths doing something we love. This is a real dialogue podcast. It's for high schoolers, gap year adventurers, and epic parents with a different mind.
Each month, we'll bring you d'skills deep dives with students who are making real world impacts so you can see how it's done, and Rebel roundtables with leaders who had untraditional pathways to success and who inspire us. Why are we doing this? Well, it's pretty simple. Less than 30 percent of companies in the 21st century think that students with degrees have any marketable 21st century skills.
Big yikes. It's time to ditch the script and get d'Skills in high school. But we're not just a podcast, we're a movement and a community, and you can join the conversation and have a chance to be featured on the show if you go to d'Skills. io forward slash community or click the link in the show notes.
Because we're on a mission to help 1 million high schoolers graduate with an impact portfolio of the skills they've applied to the real world before they ever get a degree. All right, Rebels, ditch the script, and we'll see you on the other side.
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This episode marks a bittersweet moment...
Because today is the final episode of Native Digital Native Analog Show.
As we welcome a new chapter with the d’Skills in Action...
Strap in for our last ride as we cap off this season with a conversation full of mind-blowing thoughts about the profound impact of artificial intelligence on our world.
With our special guest, Cynthia Schauer.
Exploring topics from automating outdated practices to addressing AI-related fears...
Cynthia Schauer has a brilliant mind with extensive experience as an executive and strategic advisor, including her recent role as Vice President of Creative Services at Rite Aid. Today, she is pioneering a crucial venture in the AI landscape, helping companies automate their onboarding and historical data processes through SmartFlow.
Her expertise in questioning the fundamental premises of practices, especially in the context of onboarding, offers valuable lessons.
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The Necessity of Adapting to AI and AutomationIn my conversation with Cynthia, I get to ask her thoughts about the students coming into corporate...
She noticed the growing gap between how students are exposed to technology and AI in their personal lives and how they are educated within traditional institutions.
“Students are going to come in and they're not prepared for the way the companies have changed. I would challenge you and flip it. I would say the students are going to be prepared. The companies aren't, especially in some of these more established companies.” --Cynthia SchauerShe emphasizes the need for educational institutions to catch up and teach students how to harness AI as a tool...
And the importance of companies and institutions adapting to AI and automation.
She added..."If companies are going one way and the education systems are going the other, that gap is just widening."
She emphasizes that these technologies are here to enhance human capabilities rather than replace them.
AI and Abundance MindsetAnother pressing topic from our conversation is the common misconceptions and fears surrounding AI, such as job loss or misuse.
"It's a little of both. Now, when I talk to those in the tech sector, there have been some that have admitted they're seeing their own clients don't understand AI."--Cynthia SchauerAlong with this is the shift from a scarcity mindset to an abundance mindset in the context of AI.
Rather than fearing job displacement due to AI, people and organizations should embrace the opportunities it presents for increased efficiency and productivity.
It's crucial to educate individuals about the benefits and opportunities AI can provide while addressing their concerns.
"There is enough for everybody... We need to bring that happiness back into our teams. Stop making my job so frustrating because when I have to redo something multiple times, I'm not happy." --Cynthia Schauer
Transformation of OrganizationsAs we look ahead 10 years, the conversation we had predicts a transformation in the way organizations operate.
"You need a chief AI officer to drive this... It is the person that not only understands technology but also understands leadership."-- Cynthia SchauerCynthia emphasizes the need for a CAIO.
This role is described as a bridge between technology and leadership,...
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Just a few weeks ago, we had James Fellowes on our podcast, a partner at Bridge of Hope Careers.
We delved into the world of invisible and visible disabilities in the workplace, exploring how unlocking the potential of people with different backgrounds can become a powerful advantage for companies.
Little did we know that James would introduce us to a friend with an even more extraordinary story--- Chance Bleu Montgomery
Chance, the Partner Support Manager at Bridge of Hope, has overcome incredible odds, from a challenging childhood marred by abuse to facing the depths of addiction and prison.
His transformation and the impact he's making now will leave you in awe.
As you listen, pay close attention to the unique challenges faced by individuals from disadvantaged backgrounds when entering the workforce. And Chance's coaching tips offer practical ways to uplift and support them.
Every word of this episode is pure gold.
---The Journey of Personal Transformation "So, I was left with these choices to either not live or change... And I spent three years and 10 months in therapy almost every day to unlock some pain and to deal with those childhood traumas while spending five years studying with the Open University to give myself an education my childhood didn't afford "-- Chance MontgomeryChance's journey from a traumatic childhood to becoming a successful founding partner of Bridge of Hope exemplifies the remarkable power of personal transformation.
His story highlights that reframing one's mindset and investing in self-development can help overcome adversity.
He reframed his experiences, replacing phrases like "life is hard" with "life is challenging," leading to a shift in his mindset and outlook.
He found the determination to change by recognizing the value of time as a currency and committing to a long-term journey of growth.
“Now I realized that time was a currency we spend. You spend money you spend time if you spend it, It's a currency. I started to think about how I am spending my time currency? Am I spending it for a return?... When you start to look at your time currency in that valuable way, you start to think right, ‘well, I'm now an investor’. I'm an investor of time and I invest my time in a return.” -- Chance MontgomeryThis shift in language and perspective empowered him to navigate difficulties with resilience and adaptability.
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Bridge of Hope's Holistic Approach to EmpowermentI get to ask Chance what Bridge of Hope do and how does it specifically help?
Chance emphasizes that it is driven by sincerity and passion rather than just setting up a business.
“We mean it. It's not about let's set up a business here. It's about let's change lives.” --- Chance MontgomeryThe program focuses on changing lives by offering candidates access to various support partners.
Candidates benefit from skills assessments, personalized industry suggestions, and pathways to qualifications.
Financial support forms a crucial component, with candidates being able to access wages before payday and receive free financial advice for themselves and their families.
By recognizing that a person's success has a ripple effect on their family, Bridge of Hope strives to uplift entire communities.
"Because if they love who they are, that's when inspiration strikes in the family household. That's when it taps into that next generation. Because we know when someone has... -
Ever wondered about the boundless potential of education?
In our ongoing pursuit of reimagining education and reshaping traditional learning paradigms....
We've brought you captivating conversations with trailblazers like Ted Dintersmith, James Fellowes, and many more...
But what if I told you that there's more?
More to the story of bridging the gap for students and adults who face barriers to accessing traditional pathways.
Today's exploration takes us deep into the heart of innovative education and career pathways.
As we ponder the question of equity and opportunity, we’ll continue that dialogue from a unique vantage point...
with someone whose journey will leave you in awe – Nitzan Pelman, the visionary force behind ClimbHire.
Hold onto your seats, because as you listen, you'll discover how ClimbHire opens doors to learning tracks that transcend traditional norms.
Join us in this immersive episode, where Nitzan's journey unfolds in her own words.
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The Transformative Power of Relationships "Once you get a label, then you live into that label and it's really hard to not live into it."--Nitzan PelmanIn our conversation, Nitzan Pelman shares her personal experience of being labeled as a "special ed" child in her early education.
This label led to low expectations from teachers and peers, and she found herself in a cycle of limited learning experiences.
She describes the demoralizing environment of separate classrooms for labeled students, where they internalized the label and formed a self-deprecating identity.
The result was a lack of motivation to excel academically, leading to a deep desire to distance herself from school.
But her transformative journey highlights the impact of personal relationships on shaping one's capabilities and mindset.
"I invested the time, and I invested the energy and I invested and pushed through those feelings of shame."--Nitzan PelmanShe discusses how her relationship with her boyfriend, who had a deep love for learning, introduced her to a different way of thinking.
Being surrounded by his intellectual circle challenged her to reevaluate her own potential.
This experience led to a profound shift in her perception of herself and her capacity to learn.
Rethinking Education for the Critical Thinking EconomyWhile technology offers new opportunities for learning and collaboration...
Nitzan emphasizes that critical thinking remains an essential skill in an increasingly automated and outsourced knowledge economy.
She discusses the role of emerging technologies like ChatGPT in the education sector.
"The art of writing is really the art of thinking, and if you can't think critically, then you're going to have a hard time doing anything that's valuable in society."--Nitzan PelmanNitzan challenges the notion that technology can replace core skills like writing and critical analysis.
Instead, she advocates for a reimagined education system that focuses on developing strong critical thinking skills to navigate the evolving complexities of the modern world.
Building Social Capital for Economic MobilityNitzan highlights the disparities in access to networks and relationships that often hinder individuals from low-income and non-traditional backgrounds.
"No one wants to be that first black person on the staff... it has to be organic, and it has to be real, and it has to be... -
A couple of weeks ago we had our Think Tank episode where we've asked an interesting question to see how our guests might implement or respond to this particular scenario.
And today is no exception...
I got to ask our amazing guest, Karen Brieger, the Senior Vice President of People for an amazing brand called Therapy Brand
“What would happen if native digital SWAT teams were deployed in organizations to solve vexing problems?”
In this episode, you’ll hear her insights and strategies for leveraging AI tools to enhance the hiring process.
With an extensive background as the SVP of People Operations and Chief People Officer at renowned companies like Thermo Fisher, Smiths Medical, and Investors Bank and Trust, Karen's experience speaks volumes.
Pay special attention to how her rich experience and fresh outlook on the role of technology in the workplace offer unique perspectives that will surely leave you pondering.
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Leading with AuthenticityOur conversation highlights the significance of authentic leadership in creating a psychologically safe environment.
Karen Brieger underscores the importance of being true to oneself, which paves the way for others to do the same.
She shares a personal anecdote about cracking jokes during an interview, which prompted relief and a sense of ease among her colleagues.
Karen believes that her own authenticity sets a positive example, allowing others to feel comfortable in expressing their true selves.
She notes, "And if I'm not going to be authentic, then have I created a psychologically safe space for others to be authentic? So, it's got to start with me at the top, right? It has to start with the CEO too."
This perspective emphasizes that authentic leadership not only fosters personal growth and satisfaction but also influences the overall cultural dynamics within an organization.
Outsourcing Solutions Through AI TeamsOne of the most pressing questions is the potential for outsourcing complex tasks to AI-empowered teams, thus maximizing efficiency and cost-effectiveness.
As Karen points out, this strategy aligns with current practices of engaging consultants and experts.
"If I could use this group that has the power of this AI tool to help solve the problem or do the work for me in half the time, a quarter of the time, in maybe a more creative, productive way, it's going to cost me less, it's going to get me a better outcome. So why wouldn't I?" -- Karen BriegerIt becomes evident that the convergence of AI and digital natives presents a transformative opportunity for organizations.
By harnessing the creativity of youth and the power of AI, businesses can overcome complex challenges...
reshape traditional problem-solving paradigms and position themselves for success in a digitally driven future.
Addressing Industry-Specific Knowledge and Problem Solving "How much industry knowledge depends on the problem, right? How much industry knowledge is needed to help guide what the solution is?" - Karen BriegerFrom a structural standpoint, Karen emphasizes the importance of domain knowledge in tackling complex problems within specific industries.
"How much of that just, and that's learned. That's to me those are learned skills. And how essential, with this group, are they there yet? Have they learned those sorts of skills? And is that going to be a challenge in... -
The debate on AI, its implications, and the potential obsolescence of traditional skills is heating up.
So, today, you get a rant on this very important topic...
--a multifaceted perspective on the ban of chat GPT in many school systems.
This ban is not just about technology...
It's about hindering our kids' preparedness for the digital economy.
To all the parents out there, to every leader who's also a caregiver.
It's time to explore the world of AI, education, and the road ahead.
– this one’s for you.
The Shift in Careers and the Role of AI Automation"Every single company right now is sitting down trying to plan strategically,’ what are we going to do about AI?"- Hannah.In the wake of IBM's announcement to cut 7,800 jobs, a wave of concern has swept over various industries.
It's crystal clear that every company is in the throes of strategic planning to tackle the impending AI revolution.
This revelation isn't just for hiring managers;
As a parent, it's a wake-up call about the future of my Gen Z and Gen Alpha children's careers.
The fact that IBM is shedding thousands of jobs due to AI automation speaks volumes about the seismic shifts we're about to see in the job market.
This realization marks a turning point, not just for hiring managers but for parents as well, as they contemplate the future careers of their Gen Z and Gen Alpha children.
"Careers are fundamentally changing, and d'Skills you're going to need to learn as a student are fundamentally shifting toward digital economy skills."--HannahThe Clash Between Education and Rapid Technological AdvancementsMy frustration with the education system's resistance to incorporating AI technology, like chat GPT, is palpable.
The workforce now demands soft skills and digital literacy in a digitized economy.
"The most important skill you could possibly be learning right now are d’Skills -- skills that are made for the digital economy that are learned digitally and demonstrated."And yet, the education system seems stuck in inertia, oblivious to the seismic shifts underway.
It's a head-on collision between the rapid pace of technological evolution and the sluggishness of educational adaptation.
and it's our Gen Z and Gen Alpha children who stand to lose the most.
This clash between the pace of technological advancement and the inertia of the education system demands a collective push towards preparing students for the AI-powered future.
The Imperative for Proactive Learning and CollaborationGiven the transformative nature of AI and GPT my call to action is clear...
embrace these tools as co-creators.
"Use it kind of like you might use Google. Build a habit of using GPT."I encourage Gen Z and entry-level employees to tap into GPT's insights and perspectives as an integral part of their decision-making processes.
Through initiatives like the d'Skills community...
we're creating spaces for students to grasp AI's intricacies.
It's time to shed the reluctance and uncertainties and step boldly into an AI-powered era.
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A Native Digital Talent Thought Experiment, with Adam Levin, CEO of Information Experts, and Steven Keith, Chief Experience Officer at CX Pilots
Picture this: legislation from the top above mandates that you replace HALF your staff with the younger crowd--- under 30s! 🙀
I know, it sounds wild, but stick with me!
In this exciting episode, we've got not one, but TWO incredible executives on board to help us unravel this mind-boggling scenario.
Adam Levin, the CEO of Information Experts,
and Steven Keith, the Chief Experience Officer at CX Pilots.
We’ll ask our guests about how businesses should adapt to this new generation.
These two powerhouses will be our guides as we venture into the Gen Z takeover.
Now, we know the real world isn't going to flip overnight,
but trust me, the takeaways from this convo are MIND-BLOWING!
Imagine completely reorganizing your company culture or hierarchy to sync with Gen Z's vibe.
These two boutique consulting firms, Information Experts and CX Pilots, have some radical ideas!
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A Case StudyToday you’ll get a glimpse into a think tank.
What if a brand-new law mandated replacing at least half of your team with tech-savvy, native digital humans under 27?
Steven and Adam have some fascinating perspectives on how their companies would adapt to this digital revolution.
Adam highlights that the first step might be embracing Gen Z's intuitive digital flair, focusing on design as a starting point.
"The easiest point would be to start with design since they're intuitively digital." - Adam LevinHis thoughts on the prospect of suddenly replacing a significant portion of their team with native digital humans appeared exceptionally challenging.
Their company prides itself on being sought after for its experience and expertise
and the potential mismatch in perceptions between the seasoned clientele and the young, digitally native workforce posed a notable challenge.
"It would be a challenge for me to put that demographic in front of my clients." - Adam LevinOn the other hand, we've got Steven who is all in for the Gen Z takeover, stating,
"I'd love it! Sure, it comes with significant challenges, like ageism. But some of the smartest ideas come from surprising packages, like a 22-year-old genius who blows us away with game-changing concepts."-- Steven KeithNonetheless, they recognized the importance of embracing change and exploring innovative solutions to make this transition work seamlessly.
It was clear that they were determined to navigate these obstacles and find a path towards a successful integration of native digital talent into their team.
AI and Gen ZTaking it a step further, we contemplated the remarkable possibilities if Gen Z talents were half our staff.
Adam offered valuable insights, saying
"If you can leverage that technology again to create really dynamic deliverables, the clients aren't going to care who did, who worked on those."It's clear that the integration of AI could revolutionize our deliverables and bring unparalleled value to our clients.
We also pondered whether these young individuals, equipped with AI capabilities, could potentially make an astounding career leap in terms of knowledge and strategies.
Adam acknowledged the potential for growth but emphasized the importance of experience and expertise gained over time,
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Hannah's 1984 - A 10 Year Look Into a (Possible) Future
Remember Per Damgard Hustad, the AI expert we interviewed before Chat GPT took the spotlight?
He foresaw a world where AI multiplies global wealth tenfold...urging us to redefine our values beyond careers!
And in today’s episode, we're diving into uncharted territory...
Imagine George Orwell's 1984, but with a Gen Z twist!
Join me as I take a peek and look at 10 years ahead, chatting with Chat GPT about what could be in store for us....
We'll explore the phases that could shape the next 10 years...
maybe we'll look back in a few years at how accurate my predictions are...
So, buckle up your seat because today's episode is like no other! 🔥
Phase I: Turbulence (Present – 2025ish)I've named phase one 'Turbulence,' because the changes coming our way are both exciting and nerve-wracking, and humans will have to figure out how to adapt to AI.
From job displacements to economic disruptions, the effects maybe widespread.
As I always say, 'Change is inevitable, and it's up to us to adapt and thrive.'
The integration of AI will create a diverse landscape, with some embracing the positive displacement of mundane tasks, while others may worry about job losses.
It's a challenging phase for all, but one that carries immense potential for growth and creativity.
Phase II: The Digital Renaissance (2026 – 2030)After navigating through the turbulent debates on AI's impact on jobs and potential government interventions, I’ll call the second phase of our AI journey A New Renaissance.
During this phase, the spotlight turns to humanity's distinct strengths, with creativity, emotional intelligence, and innovation taking center stage.
"Lifelong learning becomes essential as individuals seek continuous education and exploration of new domains."A world where AI works tirelessly behind the scenes, affording us ample time to indulge in creative endeavors and innovative pursuits.
A future where our true value lies not in job titles, but in our ability to unleash creativity, empathy, and originality like never before.
"I could see us returning to a world where people pursue higher learning simply because they want to. They could go study and get a major or a master's or a doctorate in poetry, not for the expectation of a job, but simply for the joy of studying it, enjoying it, and discussing it." - HannahImagine a renaissance where the pursuit of knowledge is driven purely by passion, unburdened by the pressures of employment.
As AI gracefully assumes specialized technical roles, humanity will have the opportunity to focus on building a better, more connected physical world.
Additionally, this renaissance promises a revival of spirituality—an opportunity for us to reconnect with our core values and rediscover our purpose.
Irrespective of religious beliefs, a thirst for deeper meaning will propel us to embrace our humanity and seek higher truths in an age that celebrates creativity over consumerism.
Phase III: Augmented Coexisted (2030 and beyond)Picture a world where AI and humans work in harmony, where ethical considerations are addressed, and collaboration becomes second nature.
In this phase, we'll have mastered AI integration, and the pendulum of uncertainty will finally find stability. I call this third phase "Augmented Coexistence."
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Make Your Life Feel Longer, with John K. Coyle, Olympic Speed Skater and Design Thinking Expert
If you watched the 1994 Winter Olympics, you may recognize today’s guest.
Because he ended up taking home the silver medal in speed skating that winter with his team.
Today’s episode is exciting and thrilling as our guest shares his adventurous journey.
From 55 times he almost died, his thoughts about the perception of time, to how he led the shift from contract cellphone plans to non-contract plans... you’ll be hanging onto every word John shares. He even shared, for the first time in a public forum, the personal story behind a poem he wrote that has since been shared with hundreds of thousands of people.
Join me in our episode today as I take the journey to the great mind of an Olympian, storyteller, keynote speaker, author, and a leading expert in "Design Thinking” and Innovation --- John K. Coyle
This episode is an idea of flow, adventure, risk, and creativity combined in one.
A Danger Seeker “In a lot of cases in life, bigger risks mean bigger rewards” ---John CoyleJohn’s whole life, he’s sought out thrills. Intentionally. And in moderate numbers each year. He described himself as a kid who’d go to a haunted mansion on the hill at midnight with no flashlight.
From a young age, John's fearlessness and resilience set him apart. As he said,
I think I'm a dopamine resistant.”He fearlessly embraced physical challenges that others would shy away from.
He made tough decisions that others wouldn't dare to make.
When faced with a lack of success on the Olympic team, John took a leap and decided to train on his own.
This audacious move earned him triumphs beyond imagination, breaking US and world records and proving that daring choices could lead to tremendous achievements.
Throughout his life, John's willingness to embrace uncertainty and go against the grain paid off.
In this section, pay special attention to how anyone can use seeking danger, thrills, and stories to increase the perception of time. Your life will be more fulfilling.
Losing Creative People
Reflecting on my own generation, Gen Z, I note how college made more sense in their time when company routes were prominent.
John unveils how swiftly shooting down ideas dampens creativity and causes talented minds to withdraw, leading to a decline in business growth and potential failure,
"So, it's about what's that calculated risk, and divergent thinkers, creative thinkers, are just capable of thinking far outside of the comfort zone than your convergent thinkers, and if you shut them down all the time, if you don't absorb them, if you fire them or if they leave, then you just don't have that pool of ideas that can help a business grow beyond its current boundaries. And that's how businesses die."
I'm left pondering the significance of nurturing a culture that welcomes innovative ideas, disruption, and calculated risks...
"So now they're essentially permanently shut down. They just don't bring ideas anymore. And then the third strike happens is they leave because people join companies, and they leave leaders. The reason they leave leaders, 52% of the write-in votes is my boss is not open to my ideas. So now you've just had an exodus of all your creative people, and this is how big companies go out of business."
Amygdala Driven Moments, Time Perception
Our conversation takes an intriguing turn as we discuss his research on the...
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A Conversation on Education, Change, and Innovation with Amy Horner, Top 50 Women in Accounting
Many of us know the familiar feeling…
The fear of hurting someone's feelings or the resistance to doing things differently holds many people's back in their careers, and sometimes personal life as well.
In this episode, our guest, Amy C. Horner, CPA, MBA, C-Suite executive, and Strategic Change Ambassador will unpack the topic of change leadership.
Not only that!
This episode spans from far-beyond-things related to accounting, to recruiting Gen Z into professional services, and so much more!
The Evolution of Work Experience for WomenIn my conversation with Amy, I got to ask her thoughts on the experiences of women leaders in male-dominated industries and the evolving landscape of diversity, equity, and inclusion.
While I highlight the common thread I have observed among many women leaders,
Amy shared her perspective on the challenges faced by women in the workforce...
emphasizing the need to focus on the people and their talent rather than the metrics of diversity.
“Instead of really focusing on who are the strongest people to put at this table, let's please stop with the metrics. Let's focus on the people on their talent and not be so worried about adding a seat or giving up a seat. Let's make sure that all of the seats are filled with the strongest people that we can possibly put in them.” -- Amy HornerShe criticizes the "metric-driven diversity mentality" that treats diversity as a checkbox, rather than considering the strength and capabilities of individuals.
She emphasizes the importance of genuine connection and collaboration among diverse individuals, rather than relying solely on metrics to drive change.
Accounting Recruitment Challenges with Gen ZAmy attributes the difficulty in recruiting Gen Z’ers to accounting's negative reputation of being a “boring career” and lack of exposure in early education.
Many high schools have cut accounting courses as electives, resulting in students not being exposed to accounting until college, if they pursue a business major.
“I can tell you, having seen Intro to Accounting within the last two years out of the local community college, it's not fun.”Amy acknowledges that the Intro to Accounting course can be challenging and not enjoyable for those who aren't interested in mathematics.
She also mentions the perception of accountants working long hours in dark, windowless rooms, which has created a bias and reputation that is hard to overcome.
The negative programming and reputation associated with accounting make it challenging for the profession to attract Gen Z talent.
However, Amy believes that efforts, such as incorporating accounting into STEM education at an early age and dispelling outdated stereotypes, can help improve recruitment efforts in the future.
Embracing Change: Unveiling the Resistance within OrganizationsAs I seek Amy’s perspective into why people fear change, she highlights the impact of early programming:
“Let's think about any little kid that's on a playground and they're running around, they're having a great time, and what are the adults around them doing? ‘Slow down, you're going to hurt yourself.’ And that programming impacts all of us differently. We've been doing that for decades to little kids, and then they come out and they come into the workforce. And so that translates into being afraid of innovation and change, doing something outside of the way they were taught.”- Amy HornerShe...
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The Inception of Netflix’s Subscription Model, with Robbie Kellman Baxter, Best-Selling Author of The Forever Transaction
Subscriptions are the norm in 2023.
But it wasn’t always that way.
Behind every genius model is someone. Someone who made things the way they are by changing the way they were.
And in the case of the brilliant shift to a membership economy that Netflix led, and millions of others followed, the “someone” behind that move was our guest today, Robbie Kellman Baxter.
It was such an honor to dive into a personal conversation with Robbie, who is known for her #1 best-selling books The Forever Transaction” and “The Membership Economy”, but today we get to experience Robbie’s insights on not just subscriptions, but education, digital community, and even poetry.
You’re in for a treat.
From Poetic Verses to Subscription ExpertiseIn the late 1980s, Robbie’s parents encouraged her to pursue her passions and study whatever interested her.
They believed in her ability to forge a successful career, regardless of her chosen field.
With this support, Robbie embarked on a journey into the world of poetry...
As she entered the job market after college, she faced condescending questions during interviews, such as being asked if her passion for poetry would distract her from her work.
Despite such challenges, Robbie's dedication and impressive track record of achievements eventually landed her a job.
“People mostly you get your next job based on what you've done prior to that. Sometimes school is a signaling factor. And what I always said about poetry as a signaling factor is that I am, I have an ability to do a close read...to see patterns and draw conclusions.” --- Robbie BaxterTo thrive in the independent consulting realm, she understood the importance of establishing a personal brand and becoming an expert in a specific area.
It was during this phase that Robbie discovered her passion for subscriptions and membership models, which she has been actively involved in for over two decades.
“If you want to be a successful independent in this world, you have to have a brand and you have to be an expert on something and be known for something. Eventually I sort of found my way into subscriptions and membership about 22 years ago. And it's been a really fun journey.” --- Robbie BaxterToday, Robbie's expertise lies in the realm of subscriptions, where her skills as a writer and researcher come to the fore.
Robbie’s JourneyRobbie shared her experience of working at three different tech companies after graduating from business school.
In retrospect, these companies operated under recurring revenue models, similar to today's SaaS companies.
When faced with a layoff, her immediate focus was on financial stability to support her mortgage and family.
Initially, she was open to any work that could provide income. However, she realized the need to specialize and become an expert in a specific area.
“Now that I'm more comfortable that I can make a living as a contractor, consultant, where am I going to focus? I need a focus. I need to be an expert on something.” --Robbie BaxterThe turning point came when she began working with Netflix as an independent consultant.
Witnessing Netflix's relentless dedication to customer retention and its profound impact on...
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Hannah Gets Coached to Self-Coach LIVE, with Mike Normant, Best-Selling Author of Coach Yourself Up
Ever wondered what it truly means to coach yourself?
Get ready, as our guest Mike Normant is about to reveal the secrets behind this powerful skill.
In this conversation, I dared to ask Mike, author of Coach Yourself Up, an executive coach, and leadership trainer, to coach me right here on the show.
We explored his methodology, delving into the essence of self-coaching and its transformative potential for your career, life, and everything in between.
Brace yourself for a mind-opening experience unlike any other.
Let's dive in!
“Capital T” Truth vs. “Small t” TruthDrawing from his extensive knowledge, Mike provides a relatable example to illustrate how these truths manifest in our daily experiences.
“One of the biggest things that drives human behavior is whether they believe a world, the world is a safe place that is filled with good people, or it's a dangerous place filled with dangerous people.” ---Mike NormantWe discussed the common small “t” truth of needing things to be perfect initially shaped by childhood experiences and the desire for acknowledgment.
Gradually, it transformed into a capital T truth—the perception that imperfection equated to failure.
However, upon reflecting on our conversation, I realized that this belief did not correspond to an objective reality.
It was not a universal truth that dictated worth or guaranteed success.
As Mike Normant said, "Under all people's behaviors are the stories we tell ourselves."Imagine the possibilities that arise when we become aware of the stories we tell ourselves and take active control over them.
These stories resemble invisible threads woven into our minds...
They empower us, giving us the courage to take risks and embrace growth, or they can hold us back, limiting our potential and trapping us in self-imposed barriers.
"If you can't really focus your attention very well, it's hard to self-serve, but there's self-observation. And then once we have a pretty good grip on what we think is going on story-wise, then we move into the third step called being response-able, the ability to choose an intentional response." --- Mike NormantOntological Humility + Political StancesOntological humility and Political Stances—two crucial aspects to consider.
In a nutshell, ontological humility delves into the study of reality.
For example, your perception tells you that marketing has gone awry.
But ontological humility nudges you to pause and consider that your perspective may not be the only valid one.
It invites us to engage in conversations with the awareness that our perception of reality is shaped by the core set of facts we believe to be true.
"It may be the truth, but when we jump to it without allowing for other inputs and ideas and perceptions, we do a disservice and we frankly are unaware back to your point, that there might be other things involved that we're not aware of."---Mike Normant
Hannah Gets Coached to “Self-Coach” "it's very easy and very common for us to see somebody doing something that goes against what we believe, and we label them as wrong."---Mike NormantHowever, it's important to recognize the ease with which we pass judgment and the commonality of this tendency.
By acknowledging our instinct to label others, we can go deeper into the complexities of differing perspectives.
In this
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We all know that the attention spans of both young individuals and adults are decreasing....
As the volume of learning content continues to rise, our ability to focus diminishes.
However, micro-learning presents a refreshing approach to knowledge acquisition...
And in this episode, we explore how this innovative approach is revolutionizing training and learning,with our special guest, tech start-up rockstar Chris Sterbenc, who has three decades of epic entrepreneurial adventures under his belt; we'll delve into the captivating world of micro-learning.
How Ole Miss Used Microlearning to Go from WORST to BEST Defense in the CountryChris’ company, Learn to Win, had the opportunity to deploy their micro-learning technology on a crazy experiment: Could micro-learning help a college football team improve their defense strategies?
Ole Miss shifted from traditional methods to using Learn to Win to break down lessons into one to three-minute chunks.
“Rrepetition is a big key piece to this. And also training on one concept at a time,so, you don't train players on four things at once. You break it down into four pieces and you train them in one concept at a time. And people just generally have much better comprehension and retention if you build the training program to be structured that way.” -- Chris SterbencAs a result, not only did the players find it more enjoyable, but the comprehension and retention of the material skyrocketed.
The ultimate result? They went from being one of the worst defenses to becoming the top defense in the country.
Chris shared that the key to effective training lies in meeting people where they are comfortable and delivering content in a format that they prefer.
“There's no getting around it. That's the style of interaction that the folks have now. If you try to force them into a format that they're not comfortable with, it's not going to be very effective or they're not going to like it. “--- Chris Sterbenc
Flipped LearningFlipped learning is an alternative approach that can be utilized alongside micro-learning.
Chris explained that this method flips the traditional order of presenting information, resembling a game of jeopardy.
“In traditional classrooms there's another variant. Which you can take advantage of with micro learning, which is flipped learning, where you present the problem before you explain how afterwards. And you get people's brains engaged and how they might solve the problem before you teach them the backstory behind it.” --- Chris SterbencIn flipped learning, the problem or question is presented first, engaging learners' minds in thinking about how they would solve it.
Chris’ Thoughts on the Education System: Active Learning ClassroomsIn the realm of education, exciting experimentation is taking place both in universities and high schools.
From active learning classrooms to collaborative sessions, the focus is on hands-on experiences that defy passivity.
As Chris mentioned, “There is now a lot of experimentation going on in higher education, at university level, and you're seeing a little bit of it in the high school level with active learning classrooms... there's hands-on experimenting going on. There are collaboration sessions. It's not passive.”
This shift signifies a powerful transformation, where students are actively engaged in their learning journey, paving the way for dynamic and impactful educational experiences.
Chris’ College DegreeChris’ journey was far from ordinary.
He discovered his interests and preferences by immersing himself in a business
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A Deep Dive into Finding Product Market Fit with Sean Sheppard, Venture Capitalist and Managing Partner at Corporate Venture Builder U+.
Are you an early-stage startup struggling to attract investors and find product-market fit?
Do you ever wonder what you might be missing when it comes to presenting to VCs?
Well, we recently spoke with the brilliant mind that is Sean, and he dropped some major knowledge bombs on the subject.
Sean is a savvy serial entrepreneur, who knows how to make a business boom! With three successful exits and a background in Venture Capital, Sean is the Managing Partner at Corporate Venture Builder U+.
For over 30 years, Sean has been bringing new products to market as a five-times sales founder. With his extensive experience and expertise, he helps startups find their footing in the industry and develop predictable revenue models.
It's no wonder Sean has been recognized as one of the Top Sales Influencers You Should Be Following on social media.
Transparency is the Key in Entrepreneurial VenturesYou know that feeling when someone isn't being totally honest with you?
Well, that's exactly what gets VC investors like our speaker here worried.
In our conversation with Sean, he pointed out that most young start-ups often lack honesty when presenting to VCs.
And that's a big issue because finding product market fit is a tough journey.
“...tell me what you don't know and how you're going to find out; to be a learner at all instead of a know-it-all and have that growth mindset...embrace ambiguity. Replace the word rejection in your vocabulary with feedback, and you see feedback as a gift...” ---Sean SheppardIt's not just about what entrepreneurs are holding back from investors; it's about their attitude towards learning and growth.
Building a successful startup isn't just about having a great idea or cool technology...
It's about understanding the problem you're trying to solve, and the people you're trying to solve it for.
Balancing Immediate Gains with Long-Term StrategyOne of the pressing topics about market strategy is the difference in mindset between those who prioritize short-term gains and those with a strategic understanding of technology companies.
Sean explains why Wall Street guys tend to prioritize quarterly earnings...
While those with a strategic understanding of technology companies can see the bigger picture.
Adobe's acquisition of Figma is an example.
Sean emphasizes the importance and the need to adapt between generational demographics and to own relationships with customers to stay on top in the long run
“...if you don't adapt, you are going to die... that doesn't mean you can't reinvent yourself tomorrow. I think everybody can and everybody should. But you have to stay out in front to stay relevant. And that means understanding the Gen Z demographic versus the millennial demographic...” ---Sean Sheppard
Sean’s Insight about the Shift of the Knowledge-Worker to Intellectual Capitalist “The way that we're investing now is we're giving less money to more companies earlier on...Because applied technology means anybody can do it … and that measured by the cost acquire customer over the customer lifetime value...and it was because they could find product market fit, and they understood the real problem.” - Sean SheppardThis is the age of infinite leverage.
In today's age of applied...
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We wake up in a fast-paced world, and sometimes 24 hours isn’t enough.
But what if you could get back an extra hour each week? What would you do with it?
I bet most of us will do what we love. Perhaps become a better spouse, parent, or friend.
Or pursue bigger things and spend an hour less treated like a ticket.
That’s when the power of AI comes in.
Today’s episode is not a typical discussion about AI because our guest, Dan Turchin, CEO and Founder of PeopleReign, will tell us what the future could be with the help of AI.
Meet the tech powerhouse and AI aficionado, Dan Turchin! As the CEO and Founder of PeopleReign, he's revolutionizing employee service automation with his leading AI platform. He's also a member of the Forbes Technology Council and the host of the wildly popular podcast show AI and the Future of Work. But wait, there's more! Before PeopleReign, he was at the helm of InsightFinder, the AIOps leader, and co-founded Astound, an AI-first enterprise platform for HR and IT. Oh, and did we mention he's served as Chief Product Officer at Fortinet and a Senior Director of Product Strategy at ServiceNow? This guy's tech cred is off the charts. But he's not just a tech genius, Dan's also an active angel investor and startup advisor with over 30 companies in his portfolio. He's passionate about building great teams and great products that solve hard problems and change lives. And when he's not crushing it in the tech world, he's likely cheering on youth soccer, indulging in some adventure sports, or reading Asimov and Dr. Seuss. Dan's got a BS and BA from Stanford University, so he's got the smarts to back up his incredible tech journey.
A, for Augmented Not Artificial“If we could build like a great big digital brain that like personal concierge that would be awesome. You've got like your companion brain that gets smarter all the time and is just there to assist you, to make you like the best version...That's our vision for the future of work, for the future of humanity.” --- Dan Turchin
Gen Z is known for being great consumers of new technologies, like AI and machine learning, without necessarily understanding how they work.
Imagine walking into the office and the walls knowing who you are, making your job easier.
The mundane tasks that create friction between employees and employers disappear, giving employees an hour back to do more of what they love.
Dan Turchin emphasizes the end goal is to bring impact to the next billion employees and make work life more human.
Transforming Life, Enhancing CapabilitiesImagine being able to travel the world and understand every language without even speaking it. Sounds like science fiction, right?
But with the rapid advancements in technology, it's becoming a reality.
The only impediments to this technology were storage problems, bandwidth, and data training, but now those are rapidly being solved.
Augmentation is a huge part of this...
“There's amazing research in AI that's going into the augmentation of capabilities that we thought, we thought there was a limit to what we could do as humans, now we realize there's no limit and its augmented intelligence that's helping us realize that.” --- Dan Turchin
Not only does it save time and accelerate outputs, but it also helps people with disabilities, too.
Futuristic PerspectivesDoing what you love is what makes you the best version of yourself.
Dan delves
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Welcome to the Native Digital Native Analog Show, where today's episode is one that will deeply touch your heart and soul.
Our guest, James Fellowes, shares his journey of unraveling and rebuilding after a diagnosis of bipolar disorder, while also co-founding a company that has placed over 75,000 people with incredible abilities into meaningful careers.
But this episode is even more special as we welcome my sister, Sam, who was recently diagnosed with bipolar disorder, to join in the conversation.
Get ready to be profoundly impacted and to open your mind to a level of empathy you didn't think was possible.
Let's jump in and join this special conversation in My Den.
From Privileged to PovertyJames had everything going for him, but then everything came crashing down.
He recounts his privileged upbringing, his successful career in the drinks industry, and his seemingly perfect family life.
However, in 2008, things began to unravel for him...
“This dawned on me. Having been white male and exceptionally privileged. I'd never heard any kind of or experienced any kind of barrier to employment in my entire life...”-James Fellowes
This was when his mental health began to suffer. He lost his confidence and struggled to operate in any way. He couldn't even turn on his computer and found himself staring out of the window.
Despite this, he found hope through therapy and the support of his family, and he now works to help others going through similar struggles.
“And I started rebuilding my life again. And I was like, “Okay, we can start again, you know, bottom of the snakes and ladder”. - James Fellowes
Navigating the Future of Talent in the AI AgeJames and I discussed how employers should view the future of talent, given the shifting landscape where AI surpasses our expectations.
“I think this (AI) makes this talent pool even more strategically vital. Because if AI can do what typical talent can do, but much better and working 24/7 and various other things.” -- James Fellowes
And James points out that managers need to start thinking about all different types of diversity, not just gender and ethnicity.
Embracing Diversity in the WorkplaceNeurodiversity includes talents like those with autism, who have attention to detail and focus, and dyslexics who are extremely creative.
James said, "if you have gone through a system that's designed to put you down, tell you you're stupid, and you have gotten through that, well, you must be bloody good."
People who have lived through difficult experiences also bring unique experiences to the table that cannot be replicated by AI
Therefore, it is crucial for companies to embrace diversity and seek out untapped talent pools to get ahead.
If you want to catch the full conversation, be sure to listen to the complete podcast.
About James Fellowes
In 2018 James was made redundant for the fifth time in 8 years. It was then that he had an epiphany: to leave the corporate world to try and change the world! He co-founded Bridge of Hope Careers to create the missing link between ‘untapped talent’ and inclusive employers seeking to expand their talent pool. He’s a proud dad of three, an unshakable optimist and an obsessive wild swimmer.
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Have you ever stopped to think about the unique challenges faced by Latin American entrepreneurs in the United States? Or how the digital age has transformed their society and economy?
Well, on today's episode we're thrilled to be joined by Carlos Baradello, Managing Partner of Sausalito Ventures and Alaya CP, who brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the table.
You won't want to miss what Carlos has to say about his own experiences growing up in South America and the challenges he's had to overcome to get to where he is today...
As someone who started small, he has made it his central mission to help small entrepreneurship businesses in Latin America get off the ground.
We'll also explore the fascinating topic of the shift from native analog to native digital and the profound impact it's had on business and society, and on the purpose of a degree in Latin America and how it compares to the experiences of American students.
So, whether you're a tech enthusiast, an entrepreneur, or just someone interested in learning about the world around you, this episode is for you.
So, sit back, relax, and get ready for an engaging and informative conversation with Carlos Baradello. Let's go!
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Carlos highlights the barriers Latin Americans face in the United States.
What’s it like being a Latin American business owner? Carlos gives us the inside scoop on the objective and subjective barriers that make it a challenge. For starters, Latin American entrepreneurs face unique obstacles when it comes to the rule of law, predictable policies, and infrastructures that work. And then there's the subjective barrier of global mindset and cultural adjustments that are needed to thrive in a global economy.
Carlos talked about his experience growing up:
In his own words, "It's a story of socioeconomic diversity, the fact I grew up in an immigrant family, a very low middle class. Growing up there, you'll learn basic business principles." ~ Carlos Baradello.From his turning point of attending a higher institution to receiving a full scholarship to do his masters in the Netherlands, Carlos's unique experiences have shaped his life in incredible ways.
The shift from native “local” to native “global”
"It's interesting you said from native analog to native digital. I'll say it paralleled from native local to native global. And today, I'll argue that people are born global for the most part." ~ Carlos Baradello.As we explore the profound impact of digitalization, Carlos shares his insights on how it can help create new perspectives and bridge the gap between native analog and digital worlds.
The purpose of a degree in Latin America and other countries and how it differs or is similar from the experiences of an American student.
We had a great discussion about how education in Latin America differs from the United States. Carlos points out that degrees in America are often overpriced and not always the most effective method of learning, while in Latin America, a degree still carries significant weight.
"The system that allowed people to spend all those years in college and maintain a steady career afterward no longer exists. Therefore, people in this generation have no choice but to change their attitude toward college degrees, or else we're doomed." ~ Carlos Baradello.
Don't miss out on the complete discussion - be sure to check out the full podcast!
About Carlos:
Dr. Carlos Baradello is an investor, advisor, public speaker, and university professor at
Hult International Business School. He is leading innovation and...
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Are you ready to hire the best and brightest talent from Gen Z?
In today's episode, we're diving into the concept of the NarcisStory and what it means for businesses hiring Gen Z’rs.
We Are a Brand“Since we were kids, Gen Z has had personal brands…We've already had our own brand or what I call the “NarcisStory” by the time that you hire us. So, this presents a really big challenge for employers who don't recognize that Gen Z is not just an employee, we're actually a brand.” --- Hannah WilliamsWhen it comes to job hunting, Gen Z is not just looking for a paycheck. They are looking for a company that aligns with their brand, image, and online presence.
They've been building their own personal brands.
This is something that every CEO, HR executive, and business owner needs to understand in order to attract, recruit, retain, and engage Gen Z talent.
And if you want to unlock the potential of Gen Z, the book, "A Leader's Guide to Unlocking Gen Z." is something you might want to check out on. It is written from a Gen Zer's perspective and covers 30 essential concepts for successful Gen Z hiring.
Be Part of the Naciss Story“Human beings are continually on a quest for a meaningful life, and Gen Z is no exception.” --- Hannah WilliamsGen Z’rs consider how well the company aligns with their personal brand and are seeking their purpose and meaning in their work.
And this where the "NarcisStory" comes in. NarcisStory is defined as
The reputation of a person amplified by their interests, activities, and the associations they want to be defined by.
Some Gen Z’rs may not even realize they're doing it, but they're building their reputation through social media, fashion choices, and more.
In other words, it's the choices Gen Z’rs make based on how they want to be portrayed to their followers.
It’s crucial to understand the "NarcisStory" in order to retain and what made them tick, because if you don't, you'll be missing out on the best and brightest from Gen Z.
Redrawing the Lines of Success“We are pioneering this new way of living, this new future…” --- Hannah WilliamsThe concept of NarcisStory is so integral to Gen Z.
Work for Gen Z is an extension of identity.
The NarcisStory exists because Gen Z’rs have been given an incredible opportunity to create and pave our own pathways from a very early age.
We take immense pride in sharing where we work and the purpose behind our daily responsibilities.
In the past, the American dream was all about getting a good job, owning a home, and raising a family. But for Gen Z, the dream is something different entirely.
From college degrees to online businesses, Gen Z is rewriting the rules of success. And in the process, they've created their own unique story,
It's a reflection of how Gen Z’rs are living their lives.
Not content to simply punch a clock and collect a paycheck, but to make a real impact on the world.
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