Episodes
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For this 3 part bonus mini series, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason engage in a thoughtful conversation with Paul Lambert from the Wheatley Institute. Together, they explore the complex emotions and tensions that members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints may experience when feeling attacked or judged. The discussion highlights three common responses: retreating inward, trying to correct misunderstandings, and defending one's beliefs. Paul offers insights on how grounding oneself in the teachings of Jesus Christ can lead to unexpected, outward-focused actions that promote peace and understanding.
[00:00:26] Religious pluralism in society.
[00:06:01] The importance of religion.
[00:07:34] Peacemakers in a divided world.
[00:10:54] Public benefits of living faith.
[00:15:25] Principles for harmony and respect.
[00:17:02] Living faith publicly on social media.
[00:20:12] Christ's example of invited discourse.
[00:26:58] Faith and compassion in relationship.
[00:27:40] Building non-contentious settings.
[00:32:38] Spiritual identity over political identity.
[00:35:17] Interfaith work's significance.
[00:39:17] Faith as the first principle.
[00:42:44] Interfaith engagement for flourishing society.
[00:45:41] Peace through communion with God.
For full show notes and transcript, visit https://www.mormonwomenforethicalgovernment.org/proclaim-peace
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For this 3 part bonus mini series, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason are joined by Aaron Dorfman of A More Perfect Union to explore the experiences of Latter-day Saints as a minority community, especially in the wake of recent events that highlight the challenges faced by religious minorities. They reflect on the importance of understanding the dynamics of being part of a smaller faith community, particularly outside of Utah, and the varied relationships that can arise from this position. The discussion emphasizes the opportunity to learn from other communities, particularly the Jewish community, which has a long history of navigating religious minority status in often unfriendly societies.
[00:01:47] Religious minorities and their impact.
[00:05:11] No one is defined by worst.
[00:07:15] Antisemitism and misinformation strategies.
[00:12:10] Standing up for communities.
[00:14:20] Easing suffering through community engagement.
[00:20:14] Tikkun olam: repairing the world.
[00:21:40] Collaborative repair of the world.
[00:25:08] Faith's role in democracy.
[00:28:33] Shabbat dinner family ritual.
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For this 3 part bonus mini series, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason are joined by Nealin Parker from Common Ground to reflect on recent tragic events affecting the Latter-day Saint community, including the death of President Nelson and a horrific attack on a local ward that resulted in multiple fatalities. As they process these heavy developments, they discuss the emotional toll on church members and the broader implications for peace. The episode serves as a heartfelt exploration of grief, community resilience, and the principles of the gospel that can guide us in difficult times.
[00:02:19] Peacemaking in challenging times.
[00:06:00] Redemptive suffering and compassion.
[00:10:01] Conflict's enduring legacy in towns.
[00:12:00] Long shadow of violence.
[00:16:50] Gentleness as antidote to fear.
[00:20:33] Fear replaced by love.
[00:25:42] Community support in tragedy.
[00:28:39] Prayer and gratitude for peace.
For full show notes and transcript, visit https://www.mormonwomenforethicalgovernment.org/proclaim-peace
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In this special live recording of the Proclaim Peace Podcast, hostJennifer Thomas is joined by repeat guest Chad Ford to discuss the impact of recent events on their community and the importance of fostering peace amid fear and conflict. Chad shares insights from his research on conflict mediation, emphasizing how fear can hinder collaboration and peace-building. The conversation highlights the significance of showing up for one another in challenging times and encourages listeners to create supportive spaces as they navigate their own concerns and emotions. Join them for a heartfelt dialogue aimed at uplifting and empowering individuals to become better peacemakers. This episode was recorded with a live audience on 9/18/25 at the Compass Gallery in Provo, UT.
[00:02:29] Seeds of non-fear.
[00:06:00] Forgiveness and peacemaking challenges.
[00:10:00] Conflict resolution through love.
[00:14:30] Jesus' message of peace.
[00:17:44] Transformational call to action.
[00:21:17] Managing fear and suffering.
[00:24:39] Accepting differences in relationships.
[00:30:33] Resistance to calls for peace.
[00:32:40] Trauma and its impact.
[00:39:14] Transformation through love and growth.
[00:42:05] The power of meekness.
[00:45:34] Changing input for peacemaking.
[00:52:13] Peacemaking amidst fear and anger.
[00:55:16] Alleviating suffering through understanding.
Find the transcript and full show notes at https://www.mormonwomenforethicalgovernment.org/proclaim-peace
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In this bonus episode of the Proclaim Peace Podcast, host Jennifer Thomas explores the challenges of political engagement in the face of slow or no change. Jennifer shares her conversation with Julie Rose on the Uncomfy podcast, emphasizing the importance of perseverance in peacemaking. The discussion highlights how discomfort is often a necessary part of fostering understanding and building relationships that contribute to a beloved community. Listeners are encouraged to embrace uncomfortable conversations and stay engaged, as the long-term rewards of peacemaking far outweigh the short-term discomfort. Join Jennifer as she reflects on these themes and offers practical advice for navigating challenging interactions.
[00:02:46] Advocacy outside comfort zones.
[00:05:21] Women of faith in politics.
[00:09:05] Peacefully expressing anger effectively.
[00:10:17] Channeling anger to action.
[00:14:51] Advocacy as a long game.
[00:18:24] Politics and instant gratification.
[00:21:42] Finding purpose and joy.
See full show notes from the Uncomfy podcast episode here: https://www.byuradio.org/how-to-stay-politically-engaged-when-you-feel-like-giving-up-jennifer-walker-thomas
Watch this episode from Uncomfy on BYU Radio’s YouTube channel here.
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In the final episode of Season 1 of the Proclaim Peace Podcast, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason reflect on their journey through the Book of Mormon and the principles of the gospel that promote peacebuilding. Join them as they celebrate their journey and the pursuit of becoming better peacemakers.
[00:02:45] Podcast origins and purpose.
[00:04:40] Peacemaking through sacred texts.
[00:08:44] Commitment to peace building.
[00:13:03] Mormon peacebuilding potential.
[00:16:10] Peacemakers in times of chaos.
[00:22:22] Turning swords into plowshares.
[00:27:29] Peacemaking as a miracle.
[00:28:32] Peacemaking and miracles.
[00:33:15] Handbook for peace.
For full show notes and transcript, visit https://www.mormonwomenforethicalgovernment.org/proclaim-peace
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In this episode of the Proclaim Peace Podcast, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason are joined by Scott Rasmussen from Interfaith America to reflect on their journey through the Book of Mormon as they approach the series' conclusion. They share their insights on how this process has transformed their understanding of the Book of Mormon, particularly the final book, Moroni, revealing unexpected changes in their perspectives. Join them as they discuss the impact of this journey on their views of peace and how to have hope within the hardest circumstances.
[00:03:46] Moroni as a peacemaker.
[00:04:43] Peacemaking softens our hearts.
[00:08:35] Peacemaking through personal growth.
[00:13:57] Geopolitical impact on personal lives.
[00:15:23] The importance of "how" in peace.
[00:18:38] Ethics of Jesus and nations.
[00:24:55] Peacemaking in the Middle East.
[00:26:01] Parent Circle: Voices of Loss.
[00:30:40] Navigating conversations of difference.
[00:36:00] Listening as a peacemaking skill.
[00:38:11] Peacebuilding amidst violence and hate.
[00:41:38] Non-violent conflict resolution examples.
[00:45:39] Peacebuilding through faith and love.
[00:51:04] Faith, hope, and love.
[00:54:03] Charity as an antidote.
[00:57:22] Finding peace in Christ.
[01:00:00] Faith Matters Podcast Network.
Find show notes, transcript and more at https://www.mormonwomenforethicalgovernment.org/proclaim-peace
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In this episode of the Proclaim Peace Podcast, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason explore a broader understanding of peace and peacemaking. They emphasize the importance of expanding the conversation to include diverse perspectives and forms of peace. Joining them is Dr. Jeannie Johnson, a popular professor of political science at Utah State University and director of the Groundbreaking Center for Anticipatory Intelligence. Dr. Johnson shares her insights and expertise, highlighting the significance of preparing students to contribute positively to the world. This episode encourages listeners to rethink their definitions of peace and engage in meaningful discussions about how to foster it in various contexts.
[00:03:29] Defining peace within oneself.
[00:04:52] Peace in complex environments.
[00:11:58] Wicked problems in national security.
[00:15:23] Importance of building institutions.
[00:18:08] Resilience in institutions and individuals.
[00:22:18] Models of peacemaking in Ammon.
[00:27:32] Power in choosing peace.
[00:31:06] The power of conscious choice.
[00:35:57] Peace through strength exploration.
[00:39:44] Peacemaking in national security.
[00:46:26] Finding peace through scripture.
[00:48:12] Making peace in your life.
For full show notes and transcript, visit https://www.mormonwomenforethicalgovernment.org/proclaim-peace
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In this episode of the Proclaim Peace Podcast, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason are joined by Rosalynde Welch to dive into the Book of Ether, a lesser-known book within the Book of Mormon. They discuss its unique historical context and the challenges it presents, while highlighting its valuable lessons for peacemaking. The conversation centers on the importance of making thoughtful decisions during difficult times, emphasizing how individuals can contribute to a culture of peace amidst societal conflict. Join them as they explore the rich principles found in the Book of Ether that can guide us toward becoming better peacemakers.
[00:01:37] Moments of change and decision.
[00:04:18] Peace as a fruit of the Spirit.
[00:10:59] Theological vs. Doctrinal Reading.
[00:12:36] Theological reading of scriptures.
[00:19:07] Chosen land thesis in history.
[00:22:11] Urgent call to modern readers.
[00:24:56] Jaredite governance and kingship.
[00:28:50] Governance systems and instability.
[00:34:14] Fraternal conflict in governance.
[00:39:06] Political polarization and its consequences.
[00:40:20] The role of civic space.
[00:47:32] Breaking the cycle of violence.
[00:50:48] Wealth and human flourishing.
[00:54:19] Secret combinations and conspiratorial thinking.
[00:57:30] A better way to live.
[01:02:08] Stories of peace and creativity.
[01:05:15] Story of redemption.
For full show notes and transcript, visit https://www.mormonwomenforethicalgovernment.org/proclaim-peace
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In this episode of the Proclaim Peace Podcast, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason are joined by Bellweather International founder Rachel Miner to tackle the difficult and sobering topic of genocide. They emphasize the importance of peace builders acknowledging and confronting the realities of evil and suffering in the world. Jennifer highlights that a key trait of peace builders is the ability to mourn and lament for those affected by atrocities. The discussion also connects to the Book of Mormon, which addresses the theme of genocide, particularly in its concluding narratives. Join them as they explore how awareness and understanding of these harsh realities can guide us towards fostering a more peaceful and just world.
[00:01:27] Genocide in the Book of Mormon.
[00:06:57] Peace as a lifestyle.
[00:08:09] Lifestyle of peace cultivation.
[00:11:21] Leadership and transparency for peace.
[00:15:44] Understanding the cycle of genocide.
[00:20:46] Genocide prevention in scriptures.
[00:23:06] Secret combinations in society.
[00:30:05] Teaching hate leads to genocide.
[00:33:16] Genocide prevention through education.
[00:36:06] Choosing love over hatred.
[00:41:24] Gender equality and genocide prevention.
[00:44:54] Hate speech and genocide prevention.
[00:48:50] Scapegoating in society.
[00:52:06] Economic suffering and perception.
[00:56:19] Unity in suffering and persecution.
[01:02:15] Mothers of genocide survivors' hope.
[01:04:08] Making peace in your life.
For more show notes and transcript, visit https://www.mormonwomenforethicalgovernment.org/proclaim-peace
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In this episode of the Proclaim Peace Podcast, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason continue their exploration of peacemaking principles derived from the gospel and the Book of Mormon. They share thoughts from the last words of the prophet Mormon, emphasizing how the Book of Mormon serves as a vital connection during turbulent times. The conversation highlights the scriptures' candid approach to conflict, illustrating a range of difficulties from familial disputes to larger societal issues. They reflect on the narrative of the Book of Mormon, focusing on the vision of a beloved community and the hope it inspires in addressing contemporary challenges. Join us as we delve into how these teachings can guide us in becoming better peacemakers.
[00:01:37] The promise of Zion.
[00:04:36] MWEG's annual conference details.
[00:09:29] Mormon's lament of lost opportunity.
[00:12:31] Embracing the way of Jesus.
[00:15:53] Peacemaking as active engagement.
[00:22:04] Gospel of repentance and transformation.
[00:25:01] Humility and peacemaking.
[00:28:36] The humility of Moroni.
[00:32:06] The path to peace.
For full show notes and transcript, visit https://www.mormonwomenforethicalgovernment.org/proclaim-peace
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In this episode of the Proclaim Peace Podcast, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason continue their three-part series on Zion by diving into the profound teachings found in 4th Nephi. They discuss the significance of taking a deeper look at the elements that define a Zion community, emphasizing the unique contributions each individual can bring. They are joined by guest Andrew Bolton from the Community of Christ to share the importance of recognizing and appreciating the distinct parts of Zion, encouraging listeners to identify their own gifts and how they can contribute to building a more just and unified society. Join them as they explore the richness of these scriptures and the call to be peacemakers in our communities.
[00:01:24] Elements of a Zion community.
[00:04:41] Rich inheritance in doctrine.
[00:08:21] Peace as Zion.
[00:12:25] Seeking spiritual guidance through prayer.
[00:19:46] Discipleship and utopian imagination.
[00:24:43] Social protest in the Book of Mormon.
[00:27:30] Transformation towards Zion.
[00:31:36] Filling the hole in the soul.
[00:39:59] Community and equality in Zion.
[00:41:21] Jesus as a socialist.
[00:45:07] Spiritual democratic socialism.
[00:49:45] The fall of Zion society.
[00:54:30] Zion's influence on humanity.
[01:03:02] Zion organization and civic engagement.
[01:04:26] Peace in conflict.
For more show notes and transcript, visit https://www.mormonwomenforethicalgovernment.org/proclaim-peace
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In this episode of the Proclaim Peace Podcast, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason delve into the principles of building Zion, drawing insights from the small yet impactful book of Fourth Nephi in the Book of Mormon. They reflect on the profound message this scripture holds and the importance of creating a harmonious community among “ites.” The hosts discuss the necessity of building Zion in a way that resonates with their own cultural contexts. Join them as they welcome guest Ashley Fraser for a deeper exploration of these themes and how we can all contribute to building a peaceful and joyful community.
[00:02:01] Valuing our differences in society.
[00:06:12] Personal peace and alignment.
[00:08:05] Peace and alignment in Zion.
[00:11:40] The gospel as community.
[00:15:06] In-groups and out-groups.
[00:19:04] True belonging and diversity.
[00:24:24] Power and privilege in Christ.
[00:28:08] Co-creation with Christ.
[00:30:57] Building inclusive communities.
[00:36:12] Cultural humility in faith communities.
[00:40:42] Building Zion through humility.
[00:42:38] Building peace and avoiding violence.
[00:46:22] The power of hope.
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In this episode of the Proclaim Peace Podcast, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason are joined by Melinda Brown to introduce a three-part series focused on the concept of Zion. They emphasize the importance of striving to build Zion as a means to achieve true and lasting peace in a world often filled with conflict and despair. They reflect on the current state of society, acknowledging the challenges and imperfections we face, while also stressing the need for a hopeful vision of a better future. Join them as they explore the principles of the gospel and the teachings of the Book of Mormon to inspire listeners to actively participate in the process of creating Zion.
[00:00:34] Building Zion for lasting peace.
[00:06:21] Defining peace as collaboration.
[00:08:35] The concept of Zion.
[00:12:29] Group projects and mortality.
[00:18:57] Unity as harmony, not unison.
[00:22:21] Eternal principles of heavenly relationships.
[00:25:47] Harmonizing in spiritual community.
[00:29:18] Cultural appreciation through music.
[00:33:14] Generosity in vulnerability and gentleness.
[00:39:55] Friendship as a gospel principle.
[00:41:08] The power of friendship.
[00:47:49] Communion as shared experience.
[00:50:23] Table as a symbol.
[00:54:06] Building Zion with differences.
[00:58:11] Collaboration between body and spirit.
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In this episode of the Proclaim Peace Podcast, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason are joined by BYU-Hawaii professor David Whippy to reflect on the New Year and their renewed commitment to peacemaking. They discuss the importance of the teachings of Jesus, particularly focusing on the Sermon on the Mount and its counterpart in the Book of Mormon, known as the Sermon at the Temple. They share thoughts on what it truly means to live a Christian life, emphasizing the need for a heartfelt transformation rather than merely adhering to external observances. Join them as they explore the principles of the gospel that can guide us to become better peacemakers in the new year.
[00:02:22] President Carter as a peacemaker.
[00:04:04] Sermon on the Mount.
[00:10:07] Cultural definitions of peace.
[00:11:18] Empowering women in peacebuilding efforts.
[00:17:00] Peacemakers and their significance.
[00:20:12] Peacemakers as children of God.
[00:25:05] Managing anger as peacemakers.
[00:27:12] Personal reflection and conflict resolution.
[00:31:17] Reconciliation through personal reflection.
[00:35:22] Turning the Other Cheek.
[00:41:11] Community support in conflict resolution.
[00:44:11] Loving your enemies as peacemakers.
[00:50:05] Identifying our enemies and neighbors.
[00:52:54] Enmity creation and manipulation.
[00:57:14] Forgiveness and personal responsibility.
[01:01:09] Vocation and peace building.
[01:03:41] Making peace in your life.
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In the last episode of the year, we reflect on the meaning of peace during the Christmas season. Patrick asks a thought-provoking question about the Christmas story from Luke Chapter 2: Did the heavenly host's proclamation of "peace on earth" truly hold meaning, given that Jesus's birth did not end wars or family conflicts? Tune in to hear excerpts from this year’s podcast guests answering this question and prepare for a season of reflection and hope. We’ll take a short break for the holidays and return in January with new episodes.
[00:02:56] Julie Rose on Christ as the prince of peace.
[00:05:47] Thomas McConkie on Christ’s love as an omega point.
[00:8:50] Annie Waddoups on grace for our imperfect actions.
[00:10:19] Emile Kayitare on forgiveness and reconciliation in Rwanda.
[00:13:32] Michalyn Steele on finding peace in weekly practices.
[00:15:18] David Pulsipher on finding hope in Christ.
[00:16:27] Sarah Perkins on friendship across intractable divides.
[00:20:25] Chad Ford on active peace building with Jesus.
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In this episode of the Proclaim Peace Podcast, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason are joined by professor Grant Madsen to discuss what we learn from the Book of Mormon about how institutions promote peace and foster positive society. Together, they explore how modern politics, growing distrust of institutions, and society’s evolution shape their understanding of peace and the importance of having faith in our best institutions as a path to becoming better peacemakers. Tune in for a thoughtful discussion on the lessons learned from history and a bigger perspective!
[00:01:16] Cultural perspectives on peace.
[00:05:14] Government systems and peace cycles.
[00:08:49] Systems promoting peace in society.
[00:12:11] Popularity of American Heritage class.
[00:15:11] Human nature and institutions.
[00:19:54] Religion and human nature.
[00:23:14] Book of Mormon's view on governance.
[00:27:31] Conflict as productive force.
[00:28:57] Factions and their implications.
[00:34:13] Distrust in American institutions.
[00:36:35] Presidential power and government structure.
[00:40:06] Politics and personal responsibility.
[00:46:06] Leadership and citizenship in institutions.
[00:46:49] Democracy and its habits.
[00:52:40] Spiritual commitment and societal peace.
[00:55:11] The importance of hope.
[01:01:04] Democracy and personal reflection.
[01:02:30] Peace and conflict resolution.
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In this episode of the Proclaim Peace Podcast, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason welcome back Chad Ford to discuss Christ-led peacemaking in the aftermath of the U.S. presidential election. They reflect on the implications of the election results and how they relate to the principles of the gospel and the teachings of 3rd Nephi in the Book of Mormon. Jen shares insights from her extensive work in politics and the conversations she has been having with others about the election, emphasizing the theme that peace was a significant factor in this electoral cycle. The episode encourages listeners to consider how to navigate the current political landscape with a focus on peacemaking.
[00:01:58] Peace fractured in society.
[00:04:27] Need for Jesus in conflict.
[00:10:29] Community conflict and collaboration.
[00:15:00] Building relationships in community.
[00:19:09] Destruction as a cautionary tale.
[00:22:25] Healing and discipleship Choices.
[00:27:36] Love and discipleship choices.
[00:30:40] Peacemaking in times of conflict.
[00:34:31] Embracing political differences.
[00:39:47] Restoration and reconnection principles.
[00:44:47] 70 times 7 forgiveness concept.
[00:50:14] Restoration from exile.
[00:51:20] Holding the center in conflict.
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In this special episode of the Proclaim Peace Podcast, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason discuss what the Book of Mormon teaches us about choosing peaceful leadership in light of the upcoming presidential election in the United States. Acknowledging the current political climate, they reflect on the fatigue and tension many are feeling due to the election process. This episode aims to provide listeners with insights and considerations to think about as they prepare to cast their ballots, emphasizing the importance of curiosity, love, and courage in these challenging times. Tune in for a thoughtful conversation that encourages better peacemaking amidst political turmoil.
[00:02:41] Peace in political spheres.
[00:05:15] Message of peace in faith.
[00:09:13] Peacemakers in scripture.
[00:12:56] Leadership qualities for peace.
[00:16:55] Peacemakers unify rather than divide.
[00:19:36] Leadership and societal unity.
[00:23:34] Peacemakers see people as people.
[00:26:35] Zero-sum politics in society.
[00:30:34] Peacemakers show curiosity, not judgment.
[00:35:05] Curiosity in difficult conversations.
[00:39:05] Trust in society's foundations.
[00:41:25] Love your enemies principle.
[00:46:27] Courageous peacemaking in conflict.
[00:50:29] Transformational value of sacrifice.
[00:54:12] Sacrifice in leadership and society.
[00:59:09] Voting as a peaceful transformation.
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In this milestone 20th episode of the Proclaim Peace Podcast, hosts Jennifer Thomas and Patrick Mason are joined by peace scholar Elray Henriksen as they dive into the latter portion of the Book of Mormon, often referred to as the "war chapters" of Alma. The episode explores the extensive battle narratives between the Nephites and Lamanites, highlighting memorable characters such as Captain Moroni and Pahoran. The hosts discuss varying perspectives on these chapters, with some listeners eagerly anticipating Captain Moroni's story while others tend to skip ahead to Helaman. Join them as they unpack the lessons and themes of peace within these intense narratives.
[00:02:53] Costs of war in scripture.
[00:05:21] Allegorical interpretation of battles.
[00:08:04] Defining peace through Galtung's triangle.
[00:14:44] Millennium of peace commitment.
[00:20:13] Militarism and cultural implications.
[00:23:10] Inner Captain Moroni.
[00:25:04] Worldview in defensive wars.
[00:30:01] Temptation and human nature.
[00:35:02] Internal struggle and temptation.
[00:38:22] Captain Moroni as a model.
[00:44:25] Grace in relationships and judgment.
[00:47:43] Finding peace through spiritual practice.
[00:50:20] Expansive conversations about faith.
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