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This is the perfect episode for summer vacation season. First, Tiffany Hudson from Elevation Worship joins us to tell us about her new solo album βWhen You're in the Room,β and the importance of βverticalβ lyrics in worship music. Then rapper Parris Chariz joins us for the second half of the show. We talk about his new album βThe World Is Watching,β basketball and his unusual path to seminary.
In Slices, Jesse gives us a look at his vision for the future of politics in America (it looks a lot like jury duty), and Derek takes us to the frontlines of a DoorDash robot crashing a SWAT standoff and refusing to leave.
Then One Has to Go closes it out: croissants on trial, mashed potatoes with no defenders, and an unprovoked shot at the Eiffel Tower.
Highlights:
03:01 β Slices: the Long Island town that elected a mayor who didn't want the job
17:52 β Slices: a DoorDash robot crashes a SWAT standoff and refuses to leave
23:00 β RELEVANT Conversation: Tiffany Hudson on her solo album When You're in the Room
30:15 β RELEVANT Conversation: Parris Chariz on The World Is Watching, basketball and seminary
42:38 β One Has to Go: Paris things, Detroit things, comfort foods and more
51:35 β Outro
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This week β after the crew discusses summer vacations, cruise classes and the Jersey Shore β we talk to Jessica Koulianos, co-founder of Jesus Image, about what it actually looks like to go deeper with God instead of just consuming more church content.
In RELEVANT Buzz, Team USA has turned the World Cup into a faith story, and we get into Steven Spielberg's new film βDisclosure Dayβ and the surprising amount of room it gives to faith.
In RELEVANT Recommends, we talk to Christian R&B artist Sondae, whose new album is a must-listen.
In Slices, scientists are trying to find Noahβs Ark, and a pastor preached for 96 hours straight to chase a Guinness World Record. Then your feedback closes it out with the things everyone loves that you just don't get: matcha that tastes like grass, smash burgers, Hey Dudes and yes, we get distracted by your unusual usernames.
Highlights:
00:00 β Intro: Alaska cruises, classes and Jesse's classy Jersey Shore vacation
14:03 β RELEVANT Buzz: Team USA's faith goes viral at the World Cup
21:55 β βDisclosure Dayβ and what aliens would do to Christian belief
30:31 β RELEVANT Recommends: Sondae on his vulnerable new album 'Boy'
36:23 β RELEVANT Conversation: Jessica Koulianos on real intimacy with Jesus
50:33 β Slices: Drilling for Noah's Ark near Mount Ararat
55:29 β The pastor who preached for 96 hours
59:02 β Your Feedback: Things everyone loves that you just don't get
1:07:14 β Outro
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Andy Mineo and Wordsplayed are back as Magic and Bird, and tell us all about the sequel to their 2017 cult classic album. We also get into the state of Christian hip-hop, why nobody is vetted anymore, and spend a genuinely uncomfortable amount of time guessing Derek Minor's net worth to his face.
In RELEVANT Buzz, the SBC voted to ban women from the pulpit and it wasn't close. Victory Boyd forgave Travis Scott and ended up in the studio with him. And Pharrell started his Christian rap era with a Voices of Fire song called "The One."
In Slices, someone claimed a religious exemption from using AI at work, and Derek has decided it might be the greatest finesse in history.
We also stop to mark World Refugee Day with an eye-opening conversation from the frontlines of Sudan about the worldβs largest humanitarian crisis happening there.
Then One Has to Go closes it out: a suspiciously cheap dollar slice, Rambo in 2026, and the case against Shaq.
Highlights:
00:00 β Intro / Derekβs frustrating tech updates
10:42 β RELEVANT Buzz: Victory Boyd & Travis Scott go from lawsuit to collaborating
14:08 β The SBC votes to ban women in the pulpit
17:23 β Pharrell's "The One" with Voices of Fire
20:38 β World Refugee Day: the crisis in Sudan with World Visionβs Grace Mavhezha
25:13 β Slices: A religious exemption to not use AI at work?
29:36 β RELEVANT Conversation: Andy Mineo & Wordsplayed on Magic and Bird 2
36:24 β The state of Christian hip-hop
40:16 β Putting Derek Minor's net worth on blast
51:51 β The five-week album rollout and why nothing breaks through anymore
56:24 β One Has to Go
1:07:40 β Outro
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This week 2819 Church pastor Philip Anthony Mitchell joins us, the Atlanta preacher whose sermon clips have taken over your feed. He tells us why he buried his old church after losing everything during COVID and why he believes the church is running out of time to wake up.
Before that convo, the guys recap a week off the grid in Montana that turned into a grown-man sleepover built around 80s action movies. We also get into how one offhand comment on Derek's "You Can't Say That in Church" podcast set off a week-long Christian hip-hop firestorm, and the unbelievable fake commercial made in response.
In Slices, dozens of mystery people keep climbing out of New York City manholes and nobody knows why. And a cop ticketed a woman for texting on her phone, even though she had a very convincing reason why she wasnβt guilty.
Then your feedback about hills youβre willing to die on closes it out!
Highlights:
00:00 β Intro and Montana recap: the trip turns into a grown-man sleepover
03:10 β 80s action movies and their 45-minute dialogue-free montages
14:50 β How Derek broke Christian hip-hop
23:33 β Derek's petty clout commercial
29:52 β Slices: NYC manhole mystery people
38:00 β The cop who ticketed a woman with no right hand
47:44 β RELEVANT Conversation: Philip Anthony Mitchell of 2819 Church
57:44 β Your Feedback: Hills you'll die on
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This week, Johnnyswim joins us to give an exclusive look at three major projects theyβre about to release. The duo has had a very busy couple of years, and surprisingly itβs not been all about music.
In RELEVANT Buzz, we bring the recent update on Mel Gibson's The Resurrection of the Christ and get some inspiration from PGA great Scottie Scheffler. In Slices, a Cybertruck owner tests his freedom by driving straight down a boat ramp into a lake because Elon said it could float, and Joey Chestnut got into some legal trouble after a recent eating contest win. Jesse has the latest.
Then we have your feedback on movies you saw way too young, and this weekβs Question of the Week: What's a hill you'll absolutely die on that most people think is ridiculous? Drop your answer in the comments on YouTube or answer on our stories!
Highlights:
00:00 β Intro and Emily's flu game show
05:21 β Montana trip prep and the case for a basketball hoop
07:30 β Pool basketball is just rugby in the water
10:50 β Cameron's diving board vs. the insurance inspector
13:08 β When America was a proper country: wood-paneled wagons
14:44 β The factory-installed van bar (and mandatory roof ladder)
17:24 β Emily wants to mod her Nissan Rogue
19:43 β Pre-Slices slice: A Cybertruck goes for a swim
28:53 β RELEVANT Buzz: Mel Gibson's βResurrectionβ movie announces a delay
33:39 β Scottie Schefflerβs faith
38:25 β Johnnyswim's year of musicals, movies and a surprise worship album
48:45 β Slices: Joey Chestnut's bologna arrest
51:00 β Question of the Week: movies that scarred you / the new question
57:51 β Outro
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This week, we talk to Brooke Ligertwood about her new album βEat,β which is unlike anything she's put out before.
In RELEVANT Buzz, we break down new data that highlights where the Church has actually been growing over the last decade β and where it hasnβt. We also tell the story of the e.l.f. Cosmetics co-founder who gave away his fortune and is becoming a priest. Plus we have a look at the new Moses limited series on Prime Video starring Sir Ben Kingsley. (Itβs impressive.)
In Slices, Jesse has some thoughts about kamikaze dolphins, and the cast of course opens the show with thoughts on the new Drake albums, which leads to a fascinating conversation about whatβs been wrong with the music industry and our thoughts on where things are going.
This weekβs Question of the Week is based on the βThief In the Nightβ post we had this week: What's a movie or show you watched way too young that you now realize was completely inappropriate (and your parents probably had no idea)? Drop your answer in the comments on YouTube or reply on our Stories on social β we're reading our favorites on next week's episode.
Highlights:
00:00 β Intro / Drake drops three albums and burns down his Universal deal
20:43 β RELEVANT Buzz: Elf Cosmetics founder becomes a Catholic priest
24:11 β RELEVANT Buzz: The only churches actually growing (Pew data)
34:02 β RELEVANT Buzz: Moses limited series on Prime Video
37:43 β RELEVANT Recommends: Brooke Ligertwood, Eat
45:00 β Slices: Kamikaze dolphins and the beluga whale that defected
47:45 β Editorial Question of the Week
50:55 β Outro
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Comedian Anjelah Johnson-Reyes joins the show to talk about her new special "Ugly Baby" and how a joke-writing class at her church kicked off her stand-up career. Then Christian UFO researcher Timothy Alberino comes on to make sense of the Pentagon's newly declassified UFO files. The cast walks through why aliens, demons and military tech are three different conversations most people are lumping into one, where the Nephilim theory in Genesis 6 fits in and why none of this should rattle anyone's theology. Alberino's book "Birthright" is worth a read if this rabbit hole calls to you.
In RELEVANT Buzz, we also break down the American Idol finale, where all three finalists this season (Jordan McCullough, Hannah Harper and Keyla Richardson) are outspoken Christians. Plus comedian Jay Pharoah's conversation with Tamron Hall about the insane experience he had while committing to read through the Bible last year.
In Slices, Derek tells us about a black bear in Gatlinburg that clawed its way into a bakery for some cinnamon rolls, and Jesse tells us about a CPR instructor that went into cardiac arrest and was saved by the students he was teaching CPR to.
"One Has to Go" closes things out with 2000s R&B, sequels better than the original, phone-era nostalgia, all-time athletes.
Then it's the debut of the Editorial Question of the Week: Is it OK to turn down a friend's wedding party invitation just because you know it's going to be expensive? Drop your answer in the comments or @ us β we'll read our favorites on next week's episode.
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Itβs episode 1300! In RELEVANT Buzz, we talk about Huluβs new Christian college dating series that you need to hear to believe. We also talk about WNBA star Sophie Cunningham's recent faith declaration, Timberwolves guard Ayo Dosunmuβs faithful pregame ritual and a new Bible movie about Daniel thatβs releasing this fall.
In Slices, a Wisconsin solid waste facility has an unusual speed limit, a Harvard scientist helps build Chinaβs AI supercomputer, and the crew finds a Guinness World Record worth actually pursuing.
The show ends with One Has to Go, and be warned thereβs a lot of frisbee golf and male ponytail talk.
Highlights:
00:00 β Frisbee golf and ponytail culture
14:23 β RELEVANT Buzz: Hulu's "Ring by Spring Break" Christian college dating show
26:28 β Sophie Cunningham gets baptized
28:17 β Ayo Dosunmuβs pregame Bible routine
28:56 β "Daniel: The Fiery Furnace" is releasing on 9/11
31:54 β Slices: An odd speed limit at a Wisconsin recycling facility
40:45 β A Harvard scientist defects to China after prison
43:28 β A new world record for solving a Rubik's Cube in free fall
47:21 β One Has to Go: Old Testament epics / 90s sitcoms / Wes Anderson / boy bands / NFL fan bases / late-night snacks
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This week we're joined by Hulvey, who just dropped his final album on Reach Records. He tells us why he turned down a Kanye West collab and the reason behind his new season.
In RELEVANT Buzz, Theo Von gets surprisingly vulnerable on his podcast about being stuck in destructive cycles. A new study finds that 60% of Gen Z has gone no contact with friends or family. We get into why.
There's NBA playoff rivalries, unexpected gifts, insane 80s movies, insurance fraud, bees escaping. It's a packed, crazy episode!
Highlights:
00:00 β Intro / Magic vs Pistons and the Angel Reese love triangle
03:50 β Jesse pitches Over the Top as the greatest sports drama ever made
12:30 β Sudden Death: Van Damme plays goalie in the Stanley Cup finals
15:20 β The Taco Bell hat and the Pistons shorts gift exchange
19:14 β RELEVANT Buzz: Theo Von's vulnerable moment 28:55 β 60% of Gen Z is going no contact
32:55 β Mr. T and Ice-T's 1984 Ten Commandments
36:30 β RELEVANT Recommends: Hulvey on his final Reach album and turning down Kanye
43:00 β Slices: Operation Bear Claw
46:35 β A million bees escape on a Knoxville highway
48:30 β Would You Rather
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The week, weβre joined by one of the funniest comedians going right now β Derrick Stroup, who has a fantastic new special on Netflix. He tells us how he got his start in comedy and why keeping things clean is an intentional choice.
In RELEVANT Buzz, we dive into a new Gallup study that reveals 50% more young men say religion is very important to them than did just a few years ago. Thereβs a lot to unpack β including why young women are going the opposite direction. We then share a clip that went viral this week of Charlie Puth breaking down his favorite gospel song and why he βloves everything Church.β Then we check out RAYEβs incredible new single βJoy,β and her faith-filled album, βThis Music May Contain Hope.β
In Slices, a guy in California got caught running a nationwide LEGO scam that you wonβt believe. And a 91-year-old Ohio grandma ignored her wellness checks because β¦ she was locked in on a video game. Then Would You Rather closes it out: Horse-sized ducks, finger guns, a raccoon with a grudge.
Highlights:
04:38 β RELEVANT Buzz: 42% of young men say their faith is very important
09:03 β Charlie Puth's gospel moment on the Terrell Show
17:51 β RAYE's new album and her faith story
29:59 β RELEVANT Recommends: Derrick Stroup on his Netflix special "Nostalgic"
38:05 β Slices: The Lego pasta heist
42:44 β Slices: 91-year-old grandma blows off her wellness check to keep gaming
45:05 β Would You Rather
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This week, we sit down with former Hillsong-ers Aodhan King and Benjamin William Hastings, who just announced a joint worship album dropping next month. They tell us about it β and also tell the unhinged story of how they met 15 years ago. (Lesson: Need pants? You might meet a new friend.)
In RELEVANT Buzz, this week Lecrae became the first Christian rapper on NPR's Tiny Desk Concerts (apologies to Marla) and we tell you about M.I.A.'s new faith-rooted album inspired by the Book of Revelation and the Ark of the Covenant. (Yes, we play *that* Indiana Jones scene.)
In Slices, the heroic Artemis crew had a very relatable problem during the mission, and a chimp clan in Uganda is apparently in a full civil war.
"One Has to Go" hits youth group bands, cereals, comedy movies, Disney Channel shows, sports movies, reality TV and worship era anthems. Jesse was sweating at one point.
Highlights:
00:00 β Intro / Magic game recap, documentary tangents
16:27 β RELEVANT Buzz: Lecrae's Tiny Desk debut
21:37 β M.I.A. announces MI7
31:42 β Benjamin William Hastings & Aodhan King
39:45 β Slices: Artemis & Microsoft Outlook in space
43:25 β Chimp clan civil war
47:00 β One Has to Go: Youth group icons / Cereals / Comedy movies / Disney Channel shows / Sports movies / Christian music / Worship anthems / Bible figures
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This week, Cameron, Derek, Emily and Marty cover a ton: American Idol's Songs of Faith Night, which was way more Jesus-heavy this year than last, British Christian rapper DC3 making MOBO Awards history, and the story of Forrest Frank's new indie band having to ditch their name days before releasing their debut album.
In RELEVANT Recommends, we talk to Madison Ryann Ward β an amazing, soulful singer (and former D1 volleyball player) who walked away from Rick Rubin's label after rededicating her life to Christ, and is now showing up everywhere and absolutely thriving.
In Slices, we cover a guy whoβs selling a compass that only points to the Olive Garden in Times Square, and the story of 12 tons of stolen Kit Kat bars giving some pretty great April Fool's fodder.
At the end of the episode, we have a great edition of One Has to Go!
Highlights:
00:00 β Intro / Derek Minor's new single "Up"
07:35 β RELEVANT Buzz: American Idol Songs of Faith Night
15:00 β RELEVANT Buzz: DC3 wins two MOBO Awards
17:30 β RELEVANT Buzz: Forrest Frank's new band
24:50 β RELEVANT Recommends: Madison Ryann Ward
33:00 β Slices: Compass pointing to the Olive Garden in Times Square
35:15 β Slices: Someone stole 12 tons of Kit Kat bars
38:30 β One Has to Go: Holidays / Florida animals / Blockbuster night / MTV cartoons / Sports video games
49:00 β Outro
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Cameron, Jesse, Derek and Emily are all back together for a packed episode. In RELEVANT Recommends, we highlight Indie Tribe's new album, Who Do You Say I Am? and caught up with the guys at SXSW to talk about the making of the project and what it says about who they are as a group.
In RELEVANT Buzz: Alabama's basketball team has been quietly building a faith culture all season that's worth knowing about. Then, as Stephen Colbert is wrapping up the Late Show, his next move is pretty unexpected: writing a Lord of the Rings movie with Peter Jackson. And then we highlight an unexpected connection between SNL's newest cast member and Orlando-based Christian rapper Caleb Gordon. For real.
Plus we cover NCAA tournament drama, late night legends ranked, and the high school celebrity alumni rabbit hole (yes, DJ Khaled, Joey Fatone and Wayne Brady went to school together). In Slices: googly eyes are scientifically proven to deter seagulls (and lions), and the world record Big Mac guy has opinions on the Big Arch. And at the end of the show it's One Has to Go: pop icons, board games, classic Comedy Central, sneaker culture and more. We said it was packed.
0:00 β Intro / Derek's back, everybody's been sick
4:00 β The podcast economy is in trouble
11:30 β Mike Lindell gets served mid-interview
19:58 β RELEVANT Buzz
20:30 β NCAA Tournament buzzer beater & Dan Hurley headbutts a ref
23:30 β Alabama basketball's faith culture and Bible study movement
25:45 β Stephen Colbert leaving Late Show; late night legends ranked
27:25 β Colbert is co-writing a Lord of the Rings movie (Shadows of the Past)
33:00 β Unexpected celebrity connections: Snoop & Cameron Diaz, Dr. Phillips HS alumni
34:50 β SNL's Cam Patterson and Christian rapper Caleb Gordon went to school together
39:05 β Slices: Googly eyes deter seagulls (and lions in Botswana)
41:35 β Slices: The Big Mac world record holder reviews the Big Arch
44:42 β RELEVANT Recommends: Indie Tribe's Who Do You Say I Am?
47:37 β Derek on writing albums in lockdown camps
53:00 β One Has to Go: pop icons, comedians, board games, sneakers, Nickelodeon, MTV
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Worship leader Pat Barrett β known for "Good Good Father" and "Build My Life" β joins Cameron, Jesse and Emily to talk about his new live album 'Break Open,' why he sat on the title track for nearly a decade, and his late-in-life obsession with surfing (including an upcoming trip to Kelly Slater's Surf Ranch). He also gets honest about how his thinking on songwriting vs. worship leading has shifted, because of course we ask awkward questions.
Also, Emily brings RELEVANT Buzz fresh from South by Southwest, where she sat in on a panel with Vince Gilligan β creator of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul β who said he thinks he owes the world something better than anti-heroes. Plus: High Point University's Cinderella March Madness run, and the faith story behind Chase Johnston's #99 jersey that everyone's been talking about.
And to close it out β Pat helps the crew run the Sweet 16 mascots through a no-stats, vibes-only bracket challenge to crown the real national champion. Based solely on mascots, not teams. One with a mustache may or may not have won.
Highlights:
0:00 β Why last week's episode was late2:30 β Starlink satellites9:30 β Driving gloves17:50 β RELEVANT Buzz: High Point University's Chase Johnston's #99 story27:00 β Emily's South by Southwest panel with Vince Gilligan31:45 β The Lost arc, the Sawyer problem, and what Vince Gilligan owes culture36:00 β Pat Barrett joins the show38:30 β Recording 'Break Open' live in a sweaty tent40:40 β Why the title song sat unreleased for nearly 10 years42:50 β Songwriting vs. worship leading β what's actually better?45:20 β Pat's surfing obsession48:15 β The March Madness Mascot Bracket Challenge
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Ryan Gosling joins the RELEVANT Podcast to talk about his new sci-fi film Project Hail Mary β what made him fall in love with this story and why this one might be a "core memory" film for a generation.
Before that, Emily reports from SXSW to break down the week's biggest faith-and-culture stories: a Christian animated short film made by two Pixar animators and 200 volunteers (including musician Josh Garrels) got nominated for an Oscar. Also Christian apologist Wesley Huff went on the popular podcast 'Diary of a CEO' and told Stephen Bartlett to his face he's going to hell. Plus, NFL quarterback Justin Fields reveals he wants to become a missionary after football.
Then in Slices: the Tooth Fairy economy is growing (Jesse has a lot of thoughts), a huge scandal in a camel beauty pageant, and you'll never be able to predict this week's 'What's Jesse Thinking?' segment. It's a wild ride this week.
Highlights:
00:25 β SxSW breakdown: The decline from tech-and-music powerhouse
07:38 β RELEVANT BUZZ
07:43 β The Office canon errors: a deep dive nobody asked for (Michael Scott's anniversary math)
10:11 β Forevergreen: Oscar-nominated Christian animated short by two Pixar animators + 200 volunteers, featuring Josh Garrels
19:22 β Wesley Huff talks Christianity on 'Diary of a CEO'
26:07 β NFL QB Justin Fields says he wants to be a missionary after football
30:07 β SLICES
30:14 β The Tooth Fairy economy
35:34 β Camel beauty pageant scandal
37:53 β RELEVANT RECOMMENDS: Project Hail Mary
43:25 β Ryan Gosling on why he keeps making space movies and why he won't actually go to space
46:42 β Ryan Gosling on why he picked Project Hail Mary β "you would die for this rock alien"
48:54 β Ryan Gosling on Project Hail Mary as a "core memory movie" like E.T. and Back to the Future
50:01 β WHAT'S JESSE THINKING?: Should Golden Corral run the US government?
56:23 β Post-credits: Apology to the estate of Shel Silverstein
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Colony House is back with a new album, and they sat down with Emily to reflect on 10 years of making music and what they want the next decade to look like.
In RELEVANT Buzz: Papa Roach lead singer Jacoby Shaddix shares his powerful faith journey β from foxhole prayer, to sobriety and a faith that sounds like the real thing. We also bring a story flying under the radar: nearly a million Christians are living inside Iran right now, and we hear directly from believers on the ground to get their thoughts on the war and religious freedom.
Plus, the backlash to the Atlanta Hawks announcing "Magic City Night" β a themed game night centered around an infamous Atlanta strip club.Then, pastor Kyle Idleman joins us to talk about how modern American Christianity has slowly turned Jesus into a therapist and self-help guru β and what we've lost in the process. It's a challenge worth sitting with.
In Slices: a Turkish soccer player performs CPR on a seagull he accidentally hit mid-game, United Airlines starts banning passengers who refuse headphones, and we close with a Spring Break edition of Would You Rather.
01:00 β The crocheting trend taking over
03:48 β The appeal of old stuff
10:41 β RELEVANT BUZZ
10:41 β Papa Roach lead singer Jacoby Shaddix shares his Christian testimony. Foxhole prayers, sobriety and millennial rockers finding faith
14:25 β Marty's attempt to join the Elk Club for a Newport parking spot
22:04 β Iranian Christians: nearly 1 million believers inside Iran
28:33 β Atlanta Hawks "Magic City Night"
30:42 β Kyle Idleman interview: How American Christianity has missed the real Jesus
35:16 β SLICES
35:16 β Turkish soccer player performs CPR on a seagull he accidentally hit
41:01 β United Airlines bans passengers who won't use headphones
45:31 β RELEVANT RECOMMENDS: Colony House β 77 Part 2
50:33 β WOULD YOU RATHER: Spring Break Edition | Pullout couches, photo shoots, emo cruises, bad vibes vs. mediocre food, and Marty's 3am cockfight vacation
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Zachary Levi β Chuck, Shazam, and now host of the new docu-drama David: King of Israel β joins us to talk about why the story of David is the one he keeps coming back to. It's a story of someone who's broken, who makes terrible decisions, and who somehow still gets called a man after God's own heart. Levi explains what sets this show apart from all the other David content out there right now and why he thinks everyone needs to hear this story again.
Also in this episode: We've been hearing a lot about revival β from the SEU outpouring to Asbury to rising Bible sales. But does the data actually back that up? We talked to Ryan Burge, a pastor, researcher and political analyst who's spent 20 years studying church trends, and his answer might surprise you. Plus, Gen Z is quietly bringing physical media back, why AI in the operating room is already causing problems, and Jesse drops a statistic about cats and birds that is either shocking or deeply unpopular depending on whether you own a cat.
And it's the spring edition of One Has to Go!
TIMESTAMPS
0:45 β Cameron stress-eating popcorn at the Magic game and them losing because of it
5:45 β RELEVANT Buzz
7:00 β Zach Levi on David: King of Israel
11:15 β DVDs and physical media are making a comeback, thanks to Gen Z
19:00 β Is revival actually happening in America? Researcher Ryan Burge on the data
28:15 β SLICES: Jesse's very unpopular take on cats and birds
36:05 β Derek: AI in the operating room and why we need to pump the brakes
41:00 β ONE HAS TO GO: Spring Edition
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This week, Elevation Worship's Chris Brown tells us why the band took an extra year off from releasing music β and what their new album βSo Be Itβ sounds like on the other side of that pause. We also hear from Portland Trail Blazers chaplain Mike Tatlock, who talked to us during NBA All-Star Weekend to share what he's seeing behind the scenes: more players showing up to chapel, more genuine conversations about faith, and a tangible spiritual shift across pro sports.
In RELEVANT Buzz, we dig into a new report revealing the alcohol industry has lost $830 billion in the last four years β largely because Gen Z just isn't drinking. Plus, the cast gets real about dealing with hateful internet comments, the Celebrity All-Star Game gets a much-needed fix, and we settle the TGIF sitcom debate once and for all. Oh, and a man at a Nashville Waffle House ordered a hash brown bowl and got bear-sprayed, tased and zip-tied instead. You know, a typical RELEVANT Podcast.
HIGHLIGHTS
01:07 β Jesse Got Roasted on YouTube and It's Eating Him Alive
08:10 β Hate Follows: Why Do People Follow Content That Triggers Them?
10:03 β Golden Rule the Comments Section
12:57 β RELEVANT Buzz: Is A Faith Revival Happening in Pro Sports?
15:12 β NBA Chaplain Mike Tatlock
18:10 β Derek on How Christian Hip Hop Maybe Helped Fuel the Movement
19:31 β What Chaplains Are Seeing Behind the Scenes
23:23 β Jesse's Celebrity All-Star Game Fix: Danny DeVito & Tom Cruise
26:46 β The Worst National Anthems of All Time
31:26 β Gen Z Is Killing the Alcohol Industry β $830 Billion Lost
35:09 β Elevation Worship's Chris Brown on Their New Album So Be It
36:45 β Interview Clip: Why They Took Time Off for the First Time in a Decade
38:08 β SLICES: Buffalo Wild Wings Sued Over "Boneless Wings"
42:10 β A Man Got Bear-Sprayed, Tased & Zip-Tied at Waffle House Over Hash Browns
44:42 β ASK THE CAST: Has Jesse Ever Been Pranked?
45:24 β Jesse's Most Diabolical College Pranks (Alarm Clocks, Air Horns & Peanut Butter)
48:45 β Cameron Put Squirrels in a Guy's Room
49:48 β Dream Guests: The RELEVANT Mount Rushmore
50:31 β Which Cast Member Would You Want to Be Stranded With?
51:05 β Do Your Families Listen to the Podcast?
51:30 β Favorite TGIF Era Sitcom
53:22 β If You Could Go Back to 2003 and Tell Yourself One Thing
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This week, Zach Williams from indie-folk band The Lone Bellow joins the show to talk about their new album β including the wild story of how their van was broken into, all their recordings were stolen, and their fans raised enough money to help them start over.
In RELEVANT Buzz, we show you the ongoing worship outpouring happening at Southeastern University in Florida, where students have been in nonstop prayer, worship and confession for the last week (we talk to the campus pastor). We also break down the viral claim that Christian hip hop is the #1 rap subgenre on Spotify β and why it's not actually true.
Plus, a worship pastor goes viral on American Idol, Kevin Durant gets exposed for burner accounts during All-Star Weekend, and a guy who lost a golf bet is now 23 days into eating nothing but Wendy's chili. At the end of the show, we've got Ask the Cast and Jesse and Emily confess to the one question they both regret asking in an interview.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 β Jesse's Super Bowl Spreader Event
05:46 β RELEVANT Buzz: The SEU Outpouring
18:49 β Kevin Durant's Burner Account
22:06 β Is Christian Hip Hop Really Huge on Spotify?
24:44 β Worship Pastor Goes Viral on American Idol
29:26 β RELEVANT Recommends: The Lone Bellow
34:49 β SLICES: The Wendy's Chili Bet
41:31 β AI Is Bad at Medical Advice
45:57 β ASK THE CAST: Embarrassing TikTok Purchases & Weird Google Searches
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This week, actor Milo Ventimiglia β known for 'This Is Us,' 'Gilmore Girls' and 'Heroes' β tells us why he chose to star in a new Christian movie, playing real-life worship artist Tim Timmons, who was diagnosed with terminal cancer over 20 years ago and is still defying the odds today.
In RELEVANT Buzz, the crew recaps the Super Bowl β including the incredible story of Seahawks coach Mike McDonald, who followed God's calling to leave the corporate world to take an unpaid internship in coaching. And now 12 years later, it's led to a Super Bowl championship. We also dig into a new study revealing that Gen Z is statistically dumber than their parents (and why that's significant). Plus, Jesse forces the crew to watch the Carman movie trailer, and at the end of the show, we have Ask the Cast! And of course Jesse and Derek have some strong thoughts on Ring cameras and drones.
Highlights:
01:28 β The Olympics and Derek's New Drone
04:59 β Ring Cameras Have Ruined Jesse's Hypothetical Heist
06:18 β The Dark Knight Predicted the Ring Camera Era
09:20 β Apple Is Buying Tech That Can Hear Your Silent Speech
16:29 β RELEVANT BUZZ
19:31 β Coach Mike McDonald: From Accountant to Super Bowl Champion
23:04 β New Study: Gen Z Is Scoring Lower on IQ Tests Than Their Parents
24:40 β The Lost Art of Daydreaming & Why Boredom Matters
30:09 β Milo Ventimiglia on βI Can Only Imagine 2β
33:24 β Jesse Makes the Crew Watch the Carman Movie Trailer (Live Reaction)
37:47 β SLICES
38:11 β Man Cited for Juggling Fire on a Unicycle in a Crosswalk
41:11 β Man Breaks Into Little Caesars After Hours & Starts Selling Pizzas
43:09 β ASK THE CAST
44:05 β What Belief Have You Changed Your Mind On?
45:46 β Boundaries You Didn't Know You Could Set
46:40 β What Today Would Shock Yourself 10 Years Ago?
47:18 β Podcast Voice vs. Real Voice
49:48 β Who Has the Worst Music Taste on the Crew?
51:04 β Why Jesse Is a Terrible Texter
52:55 β NBA All-Star Weekend: Does Anyone Care?
53:59 β Outro & YouTube Growth Update
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