Episodes
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In this episode, we talk about when it makes sense to outsource work to contractors and agencies, vs when it makes sense to do something in-house.
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In this episode, we talk about Less Annoying CRM’s latest sales experiment.
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In this episode, we talk about takeaways from big snow tiny conf, and more.
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In this episode, we discuss how Rick is using the “profit first” mindset to manage company finances.
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This is our yearly recap episode!
Personal updates from 2023
TylerGoals from last year🆗 Take more vacation and make up with with extra work off-hours work🆗 Renovate the houseOther updatesFound a band I like: Caligula's HorseFirst time as an adult I feel good about my exercise routineRickGoals from last year❌ Get weight below 200lbs❌ Write a newsletter most Sundays (27 total)Other updatesBuilt a new house and moved inHad another baby (daughter)Personal goals for 2024
TylerMaintain exercise routine: 9k steps/day + 2 rucks/week + 200 pushups/weekFinish house remodelRickRebuild daily exercise and writing habitBe more present with family when I’m with themRegular dates with Sable (2 per month minimum)4 vacations, with at least the next one scheduled at all times to look forward toProfessional updates from 2023
Themes of the podcastYou can't optimize nothing (mostly applies to Rick)Back to the basics (mostly applies to Tyler)TylerGoals from last year❌ Get back to decent growth: $36k ARR/ $3k MRR per month✅ Sense of urgency on the dev team. No more 2-week projects that end up taking six months.🆗 End the year with three major product winsOther updates Announced the price increase for legacy customers ~3 new devs sort of. Dev team is feeling way better than ever before. Improved money management Coded a lotJoined LegUp Health as a side projectRickGoals from last year✅ Retain JD full-time for another year🆗 Double the client base again (~200 clients) - 160 clients❌ Build V1 of LegUp Benefits and generate $1K per month in MRR from it (3-4 customers)Other updatesTyler joined LegUp Health as a partner Expanded services to group health insurance, and started figuring that out Made it to $100K annual revenue run rate + profitability in DecemberProfessional goals for 2024
TylerDon't worry about growth unless something unexpected happensFocus on customer delight: If you ask a typical customer whether LACRM improved in 2024, their answer should be "hell yeah"Maintain stability related to the team, culture, etc.Protect coding time. Should be averaging >1 full day of coding per weekRickGet LegUp Health to $200K ARRApply Profit First Framework / Pay partner distributions, even if smallGet JD to his target compensationPrioritize better at Windfall / leverage over optimizationBiggest worry
Tyler: Our execution on the product side won't be enough to close the gap with competitorsRick: I won’t figure out how to prioritize and manage my personal health as I build a familyWhat we want to learn
Tyler: How to code like it's 2024. Should be able to do everything the other LACRM devs can do with no blind spotsRick: Nothing specific. 2024 is about execution -
In this episode, we talk about Rick's open enrollment experience, and what LACRM is doing related to DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion)
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In this episode, Rick tries to explain to me that there are people who know how to grow businesses, and I stubbornly insist otherwise.
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In this episode, we discuss what feels like an inflection point in Rick's business.
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LegUp Health has a new website.Rick thinks he's feeling an inflection point.We daydream about the future of LegUp Health a bit.Things are calm at LACRM, and the employees are all increasingly experienced.Tyler is coding again.There's a new buzzword at LACRM.We complain about X/Twitter. -
This week, we discuss how LegUp Health reduced a major point of friction when selling to employers.
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Rick is finally in his new house, and a major stress has been removed.Rick gives updates on LegUp Health, including a major unlock to getting employers onboard.Rick talks about progress towards hitting annual sales goals.Tyler talks about other ways he's been able to simplify LACRM's operations.Tyler has a coughing fit and we give up early. -
In this episode, we discuss whether or not building features customers ask for is a valid path toward growth.
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LACRM has started migrating to Paddle.LegUp Benefits has its first official customer!We discuss how LACRM's free trial pipeline isn't as correlated with paying user growth as you'd expect.We dive deep into the history of LACRM's product strategy, and what comes next.Rick has a major milestone to share. -
This week, we talk about a pricing change we recently announced at Less Annoying CRM. We dive into the history behind the decision, how it was communicated, what it means for the finances of the business, and more.
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In this episode, we discuss a hodgepodge of things including a company reorg, growth tactics, and more.
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Rick updates us on LegUp Health's progress. He talks about working on the sales pitch, building momentum, staying focused, and more.Tyler is merging two teams at LACRM. We discuss what the impact of that change might be.We spend a while discussing different growth ideas, especially related to sales and outbound marketing. -
In this episode, we talk about how both of us are refocusing on execution. Here's the full topic list:
Tyler is trying to focus everyone at LACRM on the top priorities including:Having the devOps team do a bit more normal software engineering work.Offering customer service people a chance to work on marketing and sales.He himself is starting to code again.Rick explains how LegUp Health is focused on execution and it seems to be working.Rick/JD hired a sales coach.Rick talks about what he learned from the book Amp It Up.Tyler poorly explains why LACRM is going to work on a feature that isn't the top priority.We talk a bit about how to optimize a support teamRick is starting to think about how he can contribute to marketing. -
In this episode, we talk about Rick’s early signs of success getting out a sales rut, and much more.
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Rick gives an update on how he and JD are getting out of a sales rut.Rick is busy and has absolutely zero free time.Tyler talks about how he's considering web forms and automations as possible features for LACRM.We discuss an alternative approach to freemium.We brainstorm how to use the "engineering as marketing" approach for LegUp Health, but don't really get anywhere. -
In this episode, we talk about how much optimization should be done before you have demand generation figured out.
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Rick is back from parental leave, and he has things to say about what it's like to take care of two kids at once.We discuss what our perfect days look like.Tyler talks about how LACRM had a bit of crunch mode, and how they stayed calm.Rick talks about a sales slump, and what he's doing about it.We talk about how LegUp Health migrated from no-code to full-code.Tyler gives an update on LACRM's growth the first half of the year.We talk about switching from Google Analytics to Fathom.LACRM is considering how to price a feature that has some extra infrastructure costs.Tyler is reconsidering a feature he's been talking about for years. Literally. Years. -
In this episode, we talk about what Less Annoying CRM is doing to handle sales tax compliance worldwide.
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Tyler has officially signed the partnership agreement with Rick and LegUp Health!Rick is wrapping up a position/brand/story projectLegUp Health has updated their mission and core valuesThings are a bit hectic at LACRMTyler is considering merging his personal blog back into the LACRM blogLACRM is probably switching from Stripe to PaddleRick shares what he's learned servicing the early LegUp Health group insurance clientsWe talk a bit about ChatGPT and how it can be useful for no-code/low-code appsTyler rants about how we talk about priorities -
In this episode, we talk about Less Annoying CRM’s producthunt launch, and a lot more.
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Tyler takes a look back at LACRM's growth history, and explains their new approach to growth.Tyler explains how the recent Product Hunt launch went.Rick has cleared a lot off his LegUp Health plate and is starting to focus on new types of work.LegUp Health had its first partner meeting.April was a record month for LegUp Health.LACRM has their designer back with more hours than ever.Rick is looking to target CPAs as customers.The LACRM coding fellows have started.We discuss how to deal with the low points of being an entrepreneur. -
In this episode, we discuss some changes to LegUp Health, the end of Tyler's sabbatical, and more.
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Tyler is back from his sabbaticalLACRM is getting ready to launch a major redesignRick gives updates on how the LegUp Health/Benefits plan has changedBecause of the changes, we renegotiated Tyler's compensation and involvement in the companyTyler talks about the difference building a product that customers don't expect to use regularly vs and every-day productivity tool.Rick gives an update on working with a marketing coachWe talk about Seeyafuture.me -
Come on, you know what we're talking about. It's all anyone is talking about. Sorry, we don't make the rules.
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In this episode, we talk about the very early stages of building LegUp Benefits, and a bunch of other stuff.
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Rick has hired a marketing coach for LegUp, and we discuss how to get the team talking to each other more instead of having everything flow through Rick.Tyler gives some reflections on leaving LACRM for 6 weeks, and the early days of his sabbatical.Tyler describes a new positioning idea at LACRM.We discuss the early work on LegUp Benefits including customer validation and learning a new tech stack.Rick gives an update on his new group insurance efforts.We talk about Silicon Valley Bank even though we don't have anything to say that hasn't already been said. - Show more