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  • Kia Ora Twos and ThreesToday we share the interview with the brilliant Dr Jacqueline Lloyd on the topics of her testimony, her vocational ministry (which is rich, tapestried, and enthralling), and her opinions regarding “Christians and the need for higher learning in Christ’s Body:

    • Doctorate on ‘The Itinerant Ministry of Jesus of Nazareth as archaeological verifiable by the Gospel of Mark”

    • Theological Consultant to a variety of Educational Institutions: NZCPT, Laidlaw College, Carey Baptist College, Otago University, YWAM etc

    • Teacher of over 20+ years experience, from New Entrant to Upper Tertiary

    • Experience in a series of Archaeological Digs/excavations in the Holy Land

    • Involved in Church Planting in UK, associated with the Vineyard Churches

    For the wealth of experience and wisdom this woman possesses, she is profoundly accessible and quintessentially a teacher. Given the similar outworked theme of teaching in her life and service is Jesus’ Kingdom, she possesses an uncanny knack for adjusting the complexity and translation of her ideas; this is something I have come to appreciate having seen her teach in a number of the contexts listed above. It is truly wonderful to see how this sister has been used by our Lord so interestingly in any variety of contexts to equip the saints towards a greater love of Jesus via the use of their minds in worship. With a good mix of anecdote and academic discussion, this is a cast I know you will be blessed for viewing.

    Sola Deo Gloria,

    The 2s & 3s Team

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    Professional Links:

    · Laidlaw College- Snr Research Fellow, SnrLecturer:

    · https://www.laidlaw.ac.nz/staff/jacqueline-lloyd/

    · New Zealand Christian Proprietor’s Trust- “SpecialCharacter” Coordinator/Theological Consultant:

    · https://www.nzcpt.nz/special-character-coordinator

    · LinkedIn- Summary of her Professional Expertise:

    · https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqui-lloyd-2b6259143/?originalSubdomain=nz

    Links to her Thesis:

    · Otago University: https://ourarchive.otago.ac.nz/handle/10523/7675

    · Mohr Siebeck: Academic Publishing: Archaeologyand the Itinerant Jesus 978-3-16-159347-5 - Mohr Siebeck

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  • Good day to you 2s & 3s,In this cast we had the opportunity to interview the remarkable Luke Collis, a NZ based Evangelist who spearheads the God anointed idea for the ministry “UNASHAMED.” It is phenomenal how God is blessing this enterprise, developing their capacity and enlarging their vision a step at a time. But Luke himself is very humble in his wisdom, heartfelt in his love for young people, and hypersensitive to situations and circumstances to where the Gospel can be authentically and accessibly preached. He was a delight to talk to, and will no doubt endear himself to our listeners• Youth Pastoral work in Various North Island Churches over 10+ years• Evangelism Consultant to a number of Churches• Visionary and Lead Speaker for UNASHAMED The cast is one part stories, another part theological and another part constructively critical of the NZ Church’s task of spreading the Good News in our blessed country. There is a clear sense of God’s leading and equipping in the ministry of this brother in Christ, and my hope is that you will have yet another opportunity to praise God for his faithfulness and providence in people like Luke. If this cast is anything to go by, Generation Z are hungry for Jesus and the context is prime for the Gospel to be shared.God bless and keep you,The 2’s & 3’s Team_______________________________________________Authentic Men's Magazine- "Unashamed of the Gospel" - https://authenticmagazine.co.nz/unash...The Daily Examiner - "Christian Leader calls out New Zealand Churches" - https://www.thedailyexaminer.co.nz/ch..."Hey Pastor" || Spoken Word - • "Hey Pastor" || Spoken Word Luke's Plug- Worldwide Mission Organization, "Steiger:" https://www.steiger.org/about-usUNASHAMED: Links for Contact/Connection:Website: https://www.unashamed.nz/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unashamedNZYoutube: / @ucfn8ltjgp2j00h_u92tcmvq Luke Collis himself: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...Apply for the Evangelism Boot Camps! https://www.unashamed.nz/training-camp/_______________________________________________ Check us out on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/85513... Listen to us via your preferred podcast platform: https://anchor.fm/two-or-three-gathered _______________________________________________

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  • Kia Ora Twos and Threes,

    In this episode, we had the wonderful privilege of sitting down to chat with the mighty AJ Hendry:AJ is a former Laidlaw Bachelor of Theology graduate, Husband to Summer Hendry, Father to Wesley, Martin, Lewis and proud ‘Westie’ in the Auckland Context.

    • He is a passionate, pragmatic faith-motivated advocate of a variety of Social Justice Causes causes including Youth Wellbeing, Homelessness and Mental Health.

    • His interests also intersect with matters of Politics, Christian culture, and best practice for Youth Work. His roles (past/present) include working for Manaki Rangtahi, Lifewise Youth Housing Leader, Massey Community Trust Board member which includes recent work as Collaborator on the ‘Safety Net Project’.

    • He has spoken publically in a range of settings - Media, Politics, Radio, Council, Churches, TV, Podcasts, Community Gatherings, ( via the likes of TVNZ, the AM Show, Newstalk ZB, RNZ, and various West Auckland settings) and writes regularly via his letterheads “When Lambs are Silent” & more recently “Letters from the Revolution.”

    • Articles from these sites have been shared by the NZ Herald, Newsroom and Stuff on a national level.

    In all of these settings, the man presents humbly and accessibly but with evident zeal to achieve better than before for our rangatahi (the younger generation) in Aotearoa. His discipline of work and self directed study has seen him emerge with a valued contrasting voice on matters which have been typically very polarized. We hope you are blessed by the conversation

    Sola Deo Gloria,

    - J. C. T. & C.

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    His official FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/aejayhendry

    His Letter Handles/Blog Sites:https://revolutionletters.substack.com/

    https://whenlambsaresilent.wordpress....

    The Youth Activism Spaces he works in:https://www.facebook.com/thesafetynet...

    https://www.facebook.com/manaakiranga...

    https://www.lifewise.org.nz/our-servi...

    Media Interactions ( a sampling):

    - 1 News – Lifewise: Youth Housing Leader: https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/08/01/hu...

    - Newstalk ZB – Youth Development Worker: https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/h...

    - Newshub - https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politi...

    - Youth Advocate - https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politi...

    Articles written for National News Media:Newsroom - https://www.newsroom.co.nz/climate-ju...

    NZ Herald - https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/aaron-h...

    Stuff.co.nz - https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/13098...

    Podcasts and Radio

    - His own: https://wlas.substack.com/podcast?fbc...

    - Real Life with John Cowan (Newstalk ZB): https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=450...

    - The Honest Theology Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2ooN...

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  • Kia Ora 2’s and 3’s

    In this 2nd Part of a Two part Testimony with our new co-host, Tony explores how his theologically academic journey was used by God to make sense of God’s bigger story through the lived experience of his own story. This informed the focus of his own Masters Research into the subject of “Figural Reading;” a blending of exegetical and eisegetical approaches to hermeneutics whereby reading Scripture transforms us and simultaneously reinterprets our lives within the formation. This blessed Tony with some remarkable insights, not least of all that God is present with us in our pain outside of time for eternity. He holds both our past and present in tension, envisioning with a glorious future for all of creation and humanity.

    Tony also talks us through the years leading up to now, including a long period back in the UK where he was chaplain in one of the hardest schools in England and how that informed his recent decision to pursue teaching as a career. We hope you enjoy and are blessed for in your viewing,

    God Bless you, - The 2's & 3's Team

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  • Kia Ora 2's & 3's

    Its high time we formally introduce our newest inclusion to the "Two or Three Gathered" Team. Meet the remarkable Tony, a gift from God in so many ways, not least of all the unique blend of wisdom, accessibility, dynamism and authenticity in this son of God. We felt the best way in which to engage with some of the many reasons as to why we wanted him to join us would be to share his God glorifying testimony.

    Fair warning: there is some gritty and gory stuff Tony describes in his coming to faith in Jesus Christ, but it is in this that God's love shines through so profoundly. There is a genuine Road to Damascus story here that Tony has shared in a variety of settings (even National Radio at one point!). May your faith in Jesus being mighty to save be refreshingly edified in your viewing

    God Bless you,

    - The 2's & 3's Team

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  • To our blessed listeners,

    Thank you for listening to us in 2023- We kick of the year with the profound delight of interviewing “James Andrew Harris:”

    • Former World Vision NZ Community Engagement Manager ( Also worked for WV in  Jordan, Middle East & Nauru, Australia)

    • Former “Zeal” NZ Wellington Manager (and other locations) with wife Jenna

    • Now, Youth Worker in Aboriginal Community Belgo ,WA

    • YouthWork WA 2021 Youth Work Awards Finalist

    • Anglicare New Role in 2022: “Mobilsing Churches for Social Action across Australia”

    • Advocate for Refugee Release from Nauru in Australia, World Vision Forum contacting Jacinda to ensure Nauru Refugees given sanctions

    James is someone I can say genuinely walks and talks his walk with Christ. His heart for “the least of these” is equally challenging and inviting and evident in everything he does. More than just professionally, he and his wife Jenna do all that they do with a devout sense of missional worship. 

    Whether its discussing the merits of various Hardcore bands, Sneaky ninja brewskis with politicians live on air (see below), ‘Zines’ written about times in Palestine and its ‘Other Wailing Wall’ or Open letters to Mai FM about Loansharks; you will see through his insights why we are inspired by this man’s humble but steadfast devotion to Christ.

    Sola Deo Gloria,

    - The 2s & 3’s Team 

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    Youth Ministry Misfits Podcast – 

    https://anchor.fm/tim-mullen/episodes...

    Down to Earth Conversations (Podcast) - https://www.downtoearthconversations....

    Open Letter to Tony Abbot re: Australian Nauru Refugees /Asylum Seekers - https://jamesharris460.wordpress.com/...

    Loan Shark Video - Open Letter to Mai FM: https://www.facebook.com/jamesandrewh...

    "The Other Wailing Wall" Zine: https://www.facebook.com/events/82172...

    (Now sold out) https://changeco.bigcartel.com/produc...

    Newshub Live Conversation feat. Patrick Gower (James ninjas a livestream to talk politics - skip to 16 minutes in): https://www.facebook.com/NewshubNZ/vi...

    “The Voyage” Band Member (Once upon a time): https://www.facebook.com/TheVoyageHC

    Youth Work WA 2021 YW Awards Finalist: https://www.facebook.com/YouthWorkWA/...

    (Crediting - among other things - his co-founding of “Youthwork.io” https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...)

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  • Kia Ora Koutou 2’s and 3’s! 

    In this fun-but-rambling conversation, we revisit a format we debuted in #013 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-PGE...) with the mighty Andrew Denton (https://www.facebook.com/andrew.mclac...) , where in this installment all the hosts share 3 movies that ‘messed us up’ in all the right ways and challenged us considering Christian Worldview:

    The Sunset Limited: A philosophical exploration of Nihilism vs Born Again Christianity  The Green Light: A story of a principled surgeon whose sacrificial ethics explore the realism of doing right even when it is at great cost  Midsommar: A dysfunctional couple travel to Sweden with friends for a Midsummer festival, only to find themselves trapped in the machinations of a Pagan Cult 

    This is also the 2nd we enjoy the company of our new cohost, “Tony Jee,” (https://justicejee.com/) a brilliant, Spirit-filled Christian who we look to introduce in part shortly to you all, and more in depth at a later date via his amazing God-glorifying testimony. We hope you give these a watch and have a laugh and listen as we seek to critique culture through a Christian lense. God bless you all!

     - The 2’s & 3’s Team 

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    The three films, for your viewing pleasure to be considered: 

    The Sunset Limited: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1510938/  The Green Light: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/gree...  Midsommar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midsommar 

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  •  Hello again 2’s and 3’s

    In this 2nd part installment, while reiterating some points from part 1 we seek to 1) clarify more Biblical Theology with regards to Sex and Marriage, 2) Go into some aspects in greater depth (particularly concerning the “After Marriage angle”) and 3) use Parts 1 & 2 to then Q & A around some questions we believe Christian couples may have wondered about in the intersection between faith and sexuality, but have felt they have come up short in terms of direction. We thank Christine again for her wisdom, accessibility, transparency, candour and compassion with which she speaks on this subject. Her ever pastoral heart is a glimpse of God’s heart in her to see people know His will for their lives. 

    We hope you enjoy this and find it useful,

    - J.

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    Some valuable sources that further unpack/support Biblical approaches to Sex:

    C.J. Mahaney - "Sex, Romance and the Glory of God: " https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/sho...

    Matt Chandler (w Jared C Wilson) - " The Mingling of Souls:" https://www.koorong.com/product/the-m...

    Dr Sean Mcdowell interviews Nancey Pearcey et al: "How Protestants are waking up to a theology of the Body:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMkTQ...

    Family First: The Harms of Pornography - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZ4L...

    TED ED: Escaping Porn Addiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbYWK...

    Ask Pastor John (Piper, of Desiring God)- "Is Oral Sex Okay?" : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzimK...

    The Paradox Institute - Sex and Gender explored scientifically: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...

    Your Brain on Porn (Christine recommends the book these videos are sourced from): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6gk4...

    Jubilee Videos:

    Is the Idea of Virginity outdated? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TQnS...

    Do all virgins think the same? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMlI7...

    Should you have sex before marriage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKXfk...

    Dr Preston Sprinkle: "Dear Church - Im Gay:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O_0A...

    Unbelievable? Transgenderism and the Church: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aNz4...

    Unbelievable? Side A and Side B Christians converse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsv6...

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  • Greetings to all "The Gathered,"

    In this two parter, we defer to our resident expert Christine on a biblically based conversation around Sex. Christine previously had a capacity where she spoke to schools and churches around such subjects, thus enabling communities to break taboos and develop comfort to discuss this important subject as it applies to life. We discuss Biblical understandings, principles and ethics, science and anecdotal stories in the building of what we believe is a lifegiving approach to Sex in line with Christ's ideal for our lives.

    To Christ be the glory,

    - C, J. & C.

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    Some valuable sources that further unpack/support Biblical approaches to Sex:

    Dr Sean Mcdowell interviews Nancey Pearcey et al: "How Protestants are waking up to a theology of the Body:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMkTQ...

    Family First: The Harms of Pornography - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZ4L...

    TED ED: Escaping Porn Addiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbYWK...

    The Paradox Institute - Sex and Gender explored scientifically: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...

    Your Brain on Porn (Christine recommends the book these videos are sourced from): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6gk4...

    Jubilee Videos:

    Is the Idea of Virginity outdated? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TQnS...

    Do all virgins think the same? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMlI7...

    Should you have sex before marriage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKXfk...

    Dr Preston Sprinkle: "Dear Church - Im Gay:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O_0A...

    Unbelievable? Transgenderism and the Church: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aNz4...

    Unbelievable? Side A and Side B Christians converse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsv6...

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  • Kia Ora 2’s & 3’s

    What a remarkable privilege this Podcast was! We had the profound, poignant and vastly professionally experienced Mark Powell join us for an interview today:

    • Former CEO of “The Warehouse Group” NZ

    • Masters of Apologetics via Biola University, USA

    • Now Lecturer of Apologetics at Carey Baptist College, Auckland

    • Former Adjunct Professor at Massey Business School, Auckland Business School

    • Executive Positions on a series of Boards across NZ & Australia

    We had an in depth discussion concerning apologetics and evangelism in the 21st Century. Much of Mark’s thinking in both business and theology come down to similar epistemic questions- what do we believe to be true? His consistent belief is that all orthopraxis/pathy/doxy stems from this ultimately. We also had ample opportunity to discuss the strawman perspective of ‘Christianity being against the accumulation of wealth,’ critiquing both common assumptions and some of the  more complex thinking that underlies it at the worldview level.

    Mark possesses that skill of a profound economy of words where he can say a multitude of probing and dissecting things with a measured succinctness. As such, there is so much more here that just the time taken itself that I think will help your faith in Christ weigh in the heady topics mentioned above in practical ways.

    As always, we look forward to your engagement!

    - God Bless you,

    - J, C, T & C.

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    First and most important, Mark’s sons-in-law in Hibiscus Coast: https://www.tahielectrical.co.nz/

    https://www.facebook.com/TahiElectrical

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/tahi-electrical

    Carey Baptist College- Mark Powell -  Short Bio: https://www.carey.ac.nz/team-member/mark-powell/

    The Official Website of Carey: https://www.carey.ac.nz/

    Thinking Matters- Longer Bio, and Association: https://thinkingmatters.org.nz/presenters/mark-powell/

    “No Pressure to Leave – Warehouse Boss Mark Powell (2015):” https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/no-pressure-to-leave-warehouse-boss-mark-powell/FWBPIBNVPLK7Y3B25DHLVGK3WI/

    Biola University: a Private Christian University in Southern California - https://www.biola.edu/

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  • Kia Ora 2's and 3's, 

    In this 2nd Podcast, Caleb and I discuss some further postulations concerning Jesus and other worldviews, including: 

    - Jesus and the conspiracy to omit reincarnation from Christian belief  - "The infamous Jesus Seminar," and its spurious claims  - Jesus didn't exist: A Roman empire innovation to promote peace  - Jesus as depicted by Mormonism  - Jesus as depicted by Islam 

    While not exhaustive, we believe we present enough information in this two casts to encourage critical review of the alternative presentations of Jesus bar Joseph of Nazareth. Bottom line? Christianity just presents Him better! As always, we hope the sources linked help you continue on your journey towards the answers for yourself.  

    In Christ's love, C. T. J. & C

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    Coming up: 

    • Former CEO of the Warehouse Group and Carey Bap Col Professor in Apologetics 

    • 2 part Testimony with our new co-Host Tony Jee 

    • A 2 part discussion on Sex: Before/During/After Marriage done Biblically 

    • We also look to have Caleb join us again for a fun one: Movies that Messed us up Pt 2 

    • And the trial of our first Live Christian Pop Commentary Cast... 

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    NT Wright – “What is God’s Future for the World?” Forum at Fuller Theological Seminary, 2020: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWNKp3jYyRo  “Surprised By Hope: Re-Thinking Heaven, Resurrection, and the Mission of the Church” - https://www.koorong.com/product/surprised-by-hope-re-thinking-heaven-resurrection-and_9780281064779  “The Jesus Quest – The Third Search for the Jew of Nazareth” – Ben Witherington: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/themelios/review/the-jesus-quest-the-third-search-for-the-jew-of-nazareth/  “How seriously do scholars take the Jesus Seminar?” Q & A for W.L. Craig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLKCvcg6M_4  Capturing Christianity (Cameron Bertuzzi) interviews Dr. Gary Habermas: “New Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMx1OikHC8U   Post Apostolic Church – “Why Study the Pre-Nicene Christian Writings?” - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJA-wIRctmE&t=222s  “The Case against the Case for Christ – A New Testament Scholar refutes the Reverend Lee Strobel-  Robert M. Price” - https://www.amazon.com.au/Case-Against-Christ-Testament-Reverend/dp/1578840058  The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints – The Gospel Topics Essays: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/essays?lang=eng  Searching “David Wood, Islam” will yield a plethora of Apologetic sources discussing Islam: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=David+Wood%2C+Islam  But we also recommend two additional sources here: David Wood’s Acts 17 Apologetics (Reuploaded given the Channel’s recent deletion): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiRDwbFY56nJ5INZG_vXNlA  Nabeel Qureshi – “Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus: A Devout Muslim encounters Christianity” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0D8Uz4oQck  The Cultish Show – Podcast: https://thecultishshow.com/podcast

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  • Good day to you 2s and 3s,

    In this week-to-week, back-to-back installment, Caleb & Jared examine some considerations of Jesus Christ by other religions and belief systems (Myths and Mystery Religions, Cults and established faiths, etc) and where they fall short. Over these two parts, we fairly consistently see the following principles for critical reflection emerge:  

    - Many religions seeks to bolster their own credibility by endorsing the coherence of figures from another; many faiths often (and rightly so) find Jesus of Nazareth very compelling  - However, their 'square peg in round hole' approaches consistently find their contexts are lacking in explaining such a character, and their accompanying inconsistencies in their own core tenets often are self defeating anyway  - We endorse a 'Mike Winger' approach that the best defense against the convincing arguments for other faiths (while knowing about the alternatives can be helpful), is to develop good Scriptural literacy 

    We had a lot of fun recording these, rehearsing points we ourselves found useful in apologetically defining Christian faith. We hope it blesses you too :) As always, we include some sources below to continue your own learning in faith journey. God bless you all, 

    - J., C. & J.   

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    *More to be shared in Pt 2*  

    SHOCK CLAIM: The story of JESUS was 'copied from prior religions to CONTROL the people' - https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/774752/JESUS-prior-religions-CONTROL-the-people-roman WAS THE JESUS STORY STOLEN FROM OSIRIS, MITHRA AND OTHER ANCIENT GODS?  - https://welcometotruth.com/blogs/apologetics/osiris-mithra (Tongue in Cheek) REBUNKING CONSPIRACY THEORIES JESUS CONSPIRACIES by KEATON PATTI - https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/jesus-conspiracies  21 Important Bible Verses about Cults - https://biblereasons.com/cults/  Jesus and Mary Magdalene - https://theconversation.com/friday-essay-who-was-mary-magdalene-debunking-the-myth-of-the-penitent-prostitute-92658  Jesus' Divinity in Mark's Gospel - https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/the-divinity-of-jesus-according-to-mark  Bible Verses about Reincarnation? -https://www.openbible.info/topics/reincarnation 

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  • Kia Ora / Talofa lava Twos and Threes,

    In this cast, we interview Family First's "Nick Tuitasi" (We apologise for only audio on this release)

    · Pacific Engagement Coordinator for NGO “Family First” · Social Worker- Pacific Engagement Consultancy for the Ministry of Social Development, Te Wananga Tertiary Institution · Police Officer for more than 25 years · A variety of speaking roles for: Radio and Media, Places of Education, Conferences (Christian and otherwise) · A variety of awards, including: Police Silver Merit Award (1993), The Queen Service Medal (1998), and one of North & South’s Top Kiwis of the Century (2000)

    Nick was such a delight talk to- with a God-given gift for oration, he effortlessly and accessibly (often humourously!) shared expertise on all of these areas as it related back to his discipleship journey. The way his story weaved in and through the ever present stream of providence marks a man who both glorifies God for every benefitted step of the way, but has clearly been profoundly impacted by such grace also. 

    The release of this podcast is all the more pertinent given the NZ Supreme Court's ruling (alluded to in the cast) where Family First has been stripped of it's charitable status given its particular definition of 'Family.' Their work is all the more important then in advancing a plurality of opinions in contrast to woke and progressive options being advocated as the be-all/end-all. Please do consider supporting their work financially as they redouble their efforts of advocacy despite the setback:

    https://familyfirst.org.nz/donations/ Some of Nick's Background/Further Credentials: https://www.speakers.co.nz/our-speakers/all-speakers/nick-tuitasi/ Pray as One Interview- Nick Tuitasi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpknH3_59f4&ab_channel=PrayAsOneNZ Nick's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nicktuitasi/?hl=en "Pacifically Correct-" Nick's innovation: https://familyfirst.org.nz/category/pacifically-correct/

    God bless you all, and we look forward to your engagement with this material. We hope you are blessed at least as richly as Christine and I were in having the conversation with this blessed brother,

    To Christ be the Glory,

    J. & C.

  • Kia ora everybody!

    In this episode, Jared and Christine got together to chat about COVID 19 and potential Christian responses.
    (Keep in mind, this was recorded before #convoy2022 and the subsequent protests) 

    Some of the links mentioned in the cast, or ones that we think have relevant information either way: 

    The John Snow Memorandum, a pro-vaccine declaration:
    https://www.johnsnowmemo.com/

    The Great Barrington Declaration, a declaration with a different kind of stance from that of the John Snow Memorandum:
    https://gbdeclaration.org/

    Joe Rogan's interview with immunologist Dr Robert Malone:
    https://open.spotify.com/episode/3SCsueX2bZdbEzRtKOCEyT

    Guy Hatchard, NZ based statistician:
    https://hatchardreport.com/

    Aotearoa's OFFICIAL COVID 19 announcement dubstep remix:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj2ymyy7AAo

    Ardern's brave words during the beginning of this pandemic:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3xnT9Dr0uo

  • Hey there 2's and 3's! 

    For our 30th cast, we had the immense privilege of interviewing Dr Rod Thompson, a prominent Educational Expert in Australasia on what is 'Christian Education:' 

    - Former Principal of Laidlaw College (NZ Bible College: 2011 - 2015) 

    - Doctorate on 'The Foundational Impact of Teaching the Bible in Schools' 

    - Former Pastor of Sydney Church Plant, Current Pastor Emeritus in Springwood Presbyterian Churches in Sydney's Blue Mountains 

    - A variety of current, lecturing/teaching Roles, incl. with NZ's Venn Foundation, Australia's Christian Education National (CEN) and the National Institute of Christian Education (NICE) 

    As are all conversations/speaking engagements with Rod we had an inspiring conversation regarding the blending between Pastoral and Teaching Vocations, What it means to teach Christianly, and on the need for Biblical Literacy in the 21st Century. Rod's insights carry import of considerable worth bridged in the sort of accessible way that only a pastor/teacher of many years wisdom and experience could do in making the complex simple. We hope you enjoy this offering, as his perspectives are certainly still resonating in our ears in lived out echoes. 

    Grace & Peace in Christ's name, - J, C. & J. 

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    One of Rod's latest ventures is as a Board Member of "Hope Christian Homes;" a Social Business/NGO wishing to find, fund and repurpose housing and tenancy for the purpose of providing people with disabilities a valuable means of integrating into society; through living in homes of their own. I highly recommend checking out this wonderful venture, as I suspect we will see good things in days to come: Hope Christian Homes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enqUG... 

    Promoting Rod's Current Pastoral Role as a Minister at "Springwood Presbyterian Churches:" https://springwoodpresbyterianchurche... 

    "The Transforming Vision: Shaping a Christian Worldview" (Walsh & Middleton) - https://www.koorong.com/product/trans... 

    "Walking with God in the Classroom: Christian Approaches to Learning and Teaching" (Harro van Brummelen): https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/sho... 

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  • Kia Ora 2’s & 3’s! 

    In this special edition of the cast, Jared shares a selection of shorter interviews originally for his Middle School Context. Students learning about Jesus’ words concerning Salt and Light in Matthew 5 were encouraged to consider this through the lense of Charitable/NGO/Humanitarian work as fulfilment of the Matthew 28 Great Commission. He invited a number of local guests working in Holy Spirit inspired spaces to share a little about their work and a little about what their outworking of a Salt and Light Orthopraxis meant for their discipleship. You can view links to their associated organizations below… 

    Andrew Marriott- Executive Director of MVNZ 

    Motivate NZ: https://motivate.nz/?fbclid=IwAR3HoTd... 

    Caitlin Watson- Youth Worker/Former Local Council HBC/Social Business Worker 

    Hope Shop HBC: https://www.facebook.com/thehopeshophbc/ 

    Coast Mentoring: https://www.coastmentoring.nz/?fbclid... (In Collaboration with “Coast Youth Community Trust” and “Youth in Transition”) 

    Joseph Youssef- Social Business Developer/Former WBC Pastor 

    All Heart NZ: https://allheartnz.org.nz/?fbclid=IwA... 

    Vanessa Gatman (Previously interviewed) 

    You Are Charitable Trust: https://www.youare.co.nz/?fbclid=IwAR... 

    #015 Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GoJ7... 

    A number of these guests indicated they would be delighted to share again on other worthy topics, so we very much look forward to having them again. In the mean-time, we hope you enjoy this selection of God honouring people working to worship Him where they are, 

    God Bless, 

    C, C. & J. 

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  • Greetings Twos and Threes! 

    In this 2 Part instalment, we had the wonderful privilege of talking to two of Jared's colleagues, Gavin and Paula Daniel. These remarkable people have been shaped indelibly by God's grace, their story marked by a testimony of God's faithfulness as well as the importance of obedience, authenticity as well as waiting on God's will. This South-African, Indian couple shared their story of growing up with Apartheid, the cultural dynamics of religion, marriage and blending families, and a coming to faith story alongside their journey to join us here in NZ. With lots of laughs alongside moments of sobriety we loved every minute of hearing their story of God's goodness. 

    We hope you can see too why we saw fit to encourage the sharing of their story with others. Coming up, a special glimpse into some NZ based charity work and a very special guest to mark our 30th cast. We thank you again for gathering with us in His name, and pray the holiday season is one marked with fun, fellowship, food and festivity as we remember Jesus as reason for the season. 

    - J., C. & C. 

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    Listen to us via your preferred podcast platform: https://anchor.fm/two-or-three-gathered 

    P.S. As promised, here is Paula's Cake-based instagram; as the recipient (Jared) of a Engagement/Wedding/Birthday/Baby Shower cake, I can personally endorse just how gifted this woman is by God to create the delicious art she does! https://www.instagram.com/_paulaskitc... 

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  • Greetings Twos and Threes! 

    In this 2 Part instalment, we had the wonderful privilege of talking to two of Jared's colleagues, Gavin and Paula Daniel. These remarkable people have been shaped indelibly by God's grace, their story marked by a testimony of God's faithfulness as well as the importance of obedience, authenticity as well as waiting on God's will. This South-African, Indian couple shared their story of growing up with Apartheid, the cultural dynamics of religion, marriage and blending families, and a coming to faith story alongside their journey to join us here in NZ. With lots of laughs alongside moments of sobriety we loved every minute of hearing their story of God's goodness. 

    We hope you can see too why we saw fit to encourage the sharing of their story with others. Coming up, a special glimpse into some NZ based charity work and a very special guest to mark our 30th cast. We thank you again for gathering with us in His name, and pray the holiday season is one marked with fun, fellowship, food and festivity as we remember Jesus as reason for the season. 

    - J., C. & C. 

    Check us out on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/85513... 

    Listen to us via your preferred podcast platform: https://anchor.fm/two-or-three-gathered P.S. 

    As promised, here is Paula's Cake-based instagram; as the recipient (Jared) of a Engagement/Wedding/Birthday/Baby Shower cake, I can personally endorse just how gifted this woman is by God to create the delicious art she does! https://www.instagram.com/_paulaskitc... 

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  • Good day to you 2's & 3's In this podcast, we had the immense privilege of interviewing talented, NZ Based Author (and personal friend) Laura Wolf. Having written over 20 written works/projects (from Pub Quiz books, to Flower cultural knowledge, and even a recent collection on Cybersafety for youths), we asked her questions regarding her area of most authority- Romance Literature. As a Christian Artisan, we wanted to ask her about the themes explored in an often misunderstood genre that has powerful redemptive parallels to Gospel-infused themes. Talking to such transcendent thematic ideas as 'Faith, Hope and Love' she also helped us navigate the importance of Christians discussing sex and sexuality well as part of our God given image with soul and body integrally linked. We have intentions to have her back to discuss these themes of sexuality in more detail, but hope you enjoy this offering in the mean time. She was an absolute joy, and we heartily recommend you give her a listen, as well as check out her various written works. Even more brilliant things to come from her, we assure you! -J, C. & J. 

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    Check us out on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpwwjA5rMQiZ3Ru3gsjm6xw 

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    Laura's catalogue of works available via Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Laura-Wolf/e/B... Laura Wolf - Author (Official Facebook Page) https://www.facebook.com/LauraWolfAuthor The Author's Librarian (YT): Interview with Laura: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HRzl... Interview with "Christchurch Writers": https://chchnzwriters.org/blog/stop-w... A Cinderella for the Undercover Billionaire - her debut novel: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KDWZ824 Happy Trails - This is a NZ Hiking romance short story with a divorcee protagonist: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PCDGNWH Christmas On Henderson Island - a quirky modern desert island romance with a theme of ocean plastic: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082H61BG7 An NZ association that Laura is a member of: https://www.romancewriters.co.nz/ 

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  • Kia Ora E Te Whānau,

    Unfortunately our dear Christine Welten was feeling unwell as we filmed this cast and was unable to join in. While we would have loved to have her korero with us, we reckon it turned out alright.

    In part 3, we discuss some of the ways in which we, as Christians can approach this potential legislation. Whether the bill passes or not whether we are in favour or not, we wanted to talk about these things.

    We also discussed a little about Aotearoa's Conversion Therapy bill and the ramifications that it may have when used in conjunction with this bill. (More to come on that front later!)

    As a disclaimer, it seems that I (Caleb) was mistaken as the radio station Richard Dawkins was set to interview with (who cancelled the interview) is not affiliated with USC Berkeley. The point still stands that this is a city, famous for it's defense of free speech and liberty.

    Aroha Nui,

    J., C. & C.

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    Discussion Document: "Proposals against incitement of hatred and discrimination" - Minister of Justice, Kris Faafoi - https://www.justice.govt.nz/assets/do...

    Dept of Internal Affairs - Three Waters Reform Programme:  https://www.dia.govt.nz/Three-Waters-... - Three Waters - What you need to know (Russell Palmer): https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/what-you-n...

    NZ Harmful Digital Communications Act, 2015: https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/p...

    The Covid19 Public Health Response Bill: https://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/... - The Counter Terrorism Legislation Bill: https://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/...

    The 2007 NZ Police Raids: "Tame Iti shooting the Flag:" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Ne...

    We The Internet - Five Reasons why we need Hate Speech (Lou Perez): https://www.facebook.com/wetheinterne...

    Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux banned from public speaking in Auckland: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/3... - AJ+

    Apartheid Explained (in just under 3 minutes):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7yvn...

    Marcus Meechan (Count Dankula) and the circumstances around his 'hate crime:' https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...

    Paul Moon's Open Letter regarding Free Speech: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...

    Richard Dawkins banned from speaking at Berkeley due to "Islamaphobia": https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40710165