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  • OKR is essentially change management. Therefore, to ensure that OKR is the right framework for a large organization, they typically choose to run an OKR proof of concept (POC) with a department or team first.

    We spoke to Jean-Luc Koning, OKR coach and co-founder of IN EXCELSIS, who ran the OKR POC with the IT team at The City of Quebec, the capital of the Canadian province of Quebec. After all, a city (governmental organization) is an organization, with similar concerns as any other organization. In this podcast Jean-Luc explains:

    Why the City of Quebec decided to run an OKR POC in the first place How their POC was set upWhat their expectations of the POC wasWhat approach he took with their IT teamThe ideal length for an OKR POCWho exactly was involved in this OKR POCWhat processes were deliberately left outWhat feedback teams and team leads had regarding the POCBased on his learnings, what he would do differently in the next POCWhat success factors are needed for running a successful OKR proof of conceptAnd, what the current status is of the City of Quebec after the POC

    Tune in to learn more!

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  • Let's assume your business is a machine. There are different activities and processes your machine goes through in order for it to be fully functional and successful. Those activities include designing, building, and running the machine. But what does that truly mean for your business?

    We spoke to Richard Russell, an OKR and Leadership Coach, about his analogy: your business is a machine. In this episode, we'll:

    Walk you through the analogy Discuss what each activity — design, build, and run — entailsHow people fit into these processes What role OKRs and KPIs play in these activitiesShare how and when you should move from one activity to anotherExplain how to balance efforts between each activityProvide best practices for successfully designing, building, and running your business

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  • OKR is an iterative process — it's essentially change management. The truth is that you may not succeed when implementing OKR for the first time, maybe not even the second time. And that's fine. OKR is a flexible and forgiving framework. Once you've mastered it, it will positively impact how you operate as a business. So don't give up just yet!

    We spoke to Vlad Filippov, founder and CEO of Spark Equation, about his experience implementing and working with OKR. His first two attempts at implementing OKR didn't run as smoothly as planned. But each time he acquired learnings until he knew exactly what his organization needed to be successful with OKR. We talk about:

    How and when he knew his business needed a framework like OKRWhat he learned during his implementationsHow he finally became successful with OKRHow he finally implemented OKR to everyoneWhat changes he has seen in his organization now that they're successfully working with OKRWhat tools he uses to manage all moving parts of his business

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  • Every organization strives to have teams that perform well. However, the process of designing such high-performing teams and creating an environment in which people can thrive, is often an overlooked process. Why is that the case? Aren't people your most important resource after all? 

    So, what are high-performing, empowered teams? And, how can you create such a work environment with the help of OKR? We spoke to Christina Wodtke, ex-OKR consultant, and author of Radical Focus and The team that managed itself, about:

    What the meaning of an empowered team is?What does it mean to consciously design and maintain a high-performing empowered team? How do you design such a team?What do organizations get wrong when designing their teams?What role do goals (eg. OKRs) play in the empowerment of teams?And what is the process of goal grading in such teams? 

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  • We live in times of immense uncertainty — which tends to lead to an unclear outlook on where your organization and teams are headed. Setting a sound strategy and subsequent goals to help you succeed becomes all the more difficult.

    While the OKR framework may not be a solution for turbulent internal and external circumstances, it is a tool that can help provide an increased amount of certainty for organizations.

    We spoke to Marco Alberti, founder and OKR coach at Murakamy about how organizations can navigate uncertainty with OKR and discussed the following:

    Is OKR a tool that can help organizations navigate internal and external instability?What are the benefits of using OKR during times of uncertainty?Why do organizations tend to abandon OKR in times of crisis? And how can organizations avoid this from happening?How can employees incorporate OKR into their work schedules, to stay focused but agile during times of uncertainty?

    Tune in to learn more!

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  • OKR is essentially a cumulation of goal management best practices that were collected over the past few decades and compiled into a framework. These OKR best practices act as guidelines to ensure your organization is set up for success.

    Having said that, every organization is different. And the beauty of OKR is that it provides enough flexibility, enabling you to contextualize and adapt the framework to best fit your organization's needs. The OKR framework is flexible. But you might be wondering: how flexible?

    We discuss the 5 key OKR best practices with Peter Kappus, an OKR expert, and organizational coach. These guidelines are typically interpreted quite strictly, resulting in many organizations failing with OKR or just abandoning the framework altogether.

    But we'll uncover how you can use the given rules and adapt them to best suit you. Here are some of the things we discuss:

    Outcomes vs. outputs: When is it alright to have an output-focused Key Result?Annual and quarterly cadences: When is it ok for organizations not to use the default cadence?Can teams change OKRs mid-quarter?OKR progress: Can OKR progress only be driven by Key Results?Stretch OKRs: When should organizations work with stretch OKRs?Private OKRs: When can you have private/hidden OKRs?

    Tune in to learn more!

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  • Are you looking to roll out OKR to your entire organization and want to know what you may need to consider? Do you feel like it's a daunting task and don't know where to start?

    Firstly, we can assure you that it's not as complex as it seems. And we spoke to Ben Lamorte, about everything you need to know to successfully roll out OKR to your entire organization.

    Ben is the founder and coach at OKRs.com, co-author of Objectives and Key Results (2016), and author of The OKRs field book (2022). And as one of the first OKR consultants in the space, having helped hundreds of organizations (including companies like eBay, Adobe, Zalando) deploy OKR, Ben has a ton of great insights and experiences that can help you as you get started with the OKR roll out process.

    Here are some of the topics we discuss:

    01:15 - Intro on Ben Lamorte

    07:30 - What is the first thing you should consider when looking to implement OKR?

    13:35 - Is there a rollout approach that works best?

    22:00 - Rolling out OKR to your entire organization

    29:00 - Can any company implement OKR?

    32:00 - How important is senior leadership backing when implementing OKR?

    35:30 - How can you overcome resistance and ensure company-wide buy-in?

    43:30 - How should organizations educate their teams on the OKR framework and integrate it into their work?

    50:50 - Ben's no. 1 piece of advice when getting started with OKR

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  • Ever wondered if there is a "right time" to get started with OKR? Some may say it's best to start early — ingraining the framework within the organization from the start. Others may say it's only really needed when you have robust processes in place. Curious to hear what we think works best?

    Having recently shifted from the startup to the scaleup phase, we spoke to Jesse Staats, CEO of The Linq Group, about his experience working with OKR and his thoughts on when organizations should start working with the framework. We also cover the following topics:

    Why The Linq Group started working with OKRTheir shift from the startup to scaleup phase, and what classifies an org as a "scaleup"How OKR has supported their growthWhether OKR helped in their recent round of fundingHow they integrate personal growth goals into their OKR framework and the bigger pictureThe overall benefits experienced from using OKR

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  • Did you know that government organizations work with OKR as well? Truth be told, OKR is a tool that can benefit any organization — regardless of industry, size, or maturity — and that includes public sector organizations as well.

    The Municipality of Amsterdam (Gemeente Amsterdam) has been working with OKR over the last 2 years and has witnessed a manifold of benefits and a shift in how they approach work. Curious to learn more about their experience with OKR so far?

    We spoke to Wilma van Leeuwen, Program Manager Organizational Development at the Municipality of Amsterdam, to get a window into what it's been like, as a public sector organization, to be working with OKR. We'll discuss:

    What made Gemeente Amsterdam implement OKR Their rollout and expansion processThe challenges facedThe benefits experiencedAdvice to public sectors organizations looking to implement OKR

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    If you're new to OKR or are just getting started, download The ultimate guide to OKR. We'll walk you through everything you need to know to get started with Objectives & Key Results.

    And, if you're looking to master the art of setting great OKRs, head over to our newly published (revised edition) eBook on How to write great OKRs.

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  • If the last few years have taught us anything; it's that change is constant. We're often inclined to just adapt and accept such circumstances. But it's time to respond with strategic agility and engrain strategic foresight into our organizations, in order to build a desired future, not a compromised one.

    So let's talk strategy! Together with Daniel Montgomery, Managing Director at Agile Strategies, we'll uncover:

    What strategy really isThe meaning of strategic thinking and foresightHow to respond to internal and external changes with strategic agilityHow OKR (Objectives and Key Results) boosts clarity on an organization's strategic choices

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    Additonal resources: Playing to Win by Roger Martin & A.G. Lafley

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    Want to learn how to set a great strategy? Head over to our blog post: Looking to get aligned? Put strategy first, OKR second

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  • The answer is: yes! Just like any organization, non-profit organizations have strategies that need to be delivered. And, OKR is the perfect tool to communicate and execute those strategies. Curious to learn how NPOs roll OKR out and work with the framework?

    We spoke to Nathan Friedman, co-President and CMO at Understood (120+ ppl) — a non-profit organization dedicated to helping those who learn and think differently thrive — about their experience working with the OKR framework. Nathan shares why OKR (and KPIs) are key to their organization’s success, the approach they took to successfully rolling OKR out to the entire organization, and the benefits they’ve seen ever since they implemented the framework. He also shares what other NPOs should be focusing on when working with OKR.

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    Curious to learn how other organizations rolled OKR across their organization? Give these episodes a listen:

    OKR rollout: an untraditional approach to successOKR rollout: what every organization should know

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    If you're new to OKR or are just getting started, download The ultimate guide to OKR. We'll walk you through everything you need to know to get started with Objectives & Key Results.

    And, if you're looking to master the art of setting great OKRs, head over to our newly published (revised edition) eBook on How to write great OKRs.

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  • OKR is often mistaken — it's seen as a rigid framework with rules that need to be followed to a T to ensure its success. That's far from the truth.

    The OKR framework provides best practices that are tried and tested, however, beyond that, it's how you integrate it within your company culture and how you operate as an organization that ensures its success.

    In this episode, we're speaking with a special guest, Ben Stilwill from Streamline Health. Ben will provide you with a window into how his organization's OKR program and how they've integrated OKR within their cultural DNA, by combining it with other engrained cultural elements — their One-Page Strategic Plan & Clifton Strengths personality assessment by Gallup.

    During this episode we'll discuss:

    How Streamline Health got started with OKR and their experience so farHow they've integrated OKR within their cultural blueprintA deep-dive on Clifton Strengths and their One-Page Strategic PlanHow they maintain a healthy OKR programOKR advice and best practices

    Learn more about:

    Clifton Strengths by Gallup (Talent Assessment)Scaling Up by Verne Harnish (One-Page Strategic Plan)

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  • If you've read "Measure What Matters" you've probably come across the term cascading OKRs. Typically, when you think of cascading OKRs, top-down rigid cascading is what comes to mind.

    In an ideal world, rigid cascading seems logical — it gives an impression that an entire organization is pulling in the same direction. In reality organizations are slightly more complex and require multi-directional goal setting.

    Top-down cascading is a reflection of traditional command and control. Therefore, there's a good reason why many softwares and consultants discourage top-down cascading of goals.

    So what is cascading OKRs all about? We spoke to Peter Kappus, an OKR consultant, about:

    The definition of cascading OKRsWhy organizations should avoid rigid top-down cascading? What should organizations be focusing on instead? Rigid vs. directional cascading

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    Curious to learn more? Here are some additional resources:

    Why your Key Result can't become someone else's ObjectiveTwo things Measure What Matters got wrong

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  • The Executive's Trinity is a concept devised by Stephen Bungay, author and consultant on strategy and leadership, that describes the three different types of work every executive should master.

    While The Executive's Trinity says little about OKR as a tool that organizations can use to execute strategy, through the experience of one of our clients, Mathis Christian, we’ve learnt that combining the right leadership with OKR is a recipe for success.

    Mathis is a founder, coach and consultant whom has set up a collective called Craft Agile — an organization that transforms businesses by being helping them craft and master robust structures and processes. Mathis works closely with Stephen Bungay and The Executive's Trinity concept, as well as with OKR and Perdoo, and we'll go into depth on his experience in doing so.

    During the episode we'll discuss:

    What The Executive's Trinity is all about How organizations use The Executive's Trinity to execute their strategy through OKR The challenges faced with using The Executive's Trinity

    Curious to learn how to manage The Executive's Trinity and OKR within Perdoo? Head over to this guide.

    Tune in to our episode with Stephen Bungay to learn more about putting strategy into action.

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  • The OKR framework is designed to set organizations up for success. Yet many organizations that adopt OKR see little to no benefit of working with the framework. Why is that?

    Well, a lot of these organizations use what Felipe Castro calls the "Tinkerbell approach to OKR" — they simply continue working the same way they did before and just sprinkle some "OKR" pixie dust over it. That might work if you're lucky, but in most cases it won't.

    OKR calls for a fundamental shift in how you approach work and has a few key areas that need attention in order for it to be a huge success. We spoke to OKR trainer and consultant, Felipe Castro, on what it takes to be successful with OKR.

    During this episode we'll discuss the 3 things you need to be successful with OKR:

    Commitment to OKR from senior leadership How to use OKR in practice Unlearn old models

    Tune in to get a deep dive on what you need to do to make your OKR program a massive success. Learn from the experts!

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    Books discussed during the episode:

    7 habits of highly effective people by Stephen R. CoveyUnlearn by Barry O'Reilly Scrum: Twice the work in half the time by Jeff Sutherland

    Resources that can help further boost the success of your OKR program

    How to write great OKRsOutcomes vs. outputs

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  • Growth is the result of a combination of carefully designed strategies and an organization's learning processes.

    OKR is the perfect tool to facilitate such growth, by bridging the gap between an organization's strategy and its activities, while fostering learning simultaneously.

    We spoke to Philipp Engelhardt, a growth strategist, OKR consultant and founder of scaleon, a management consulting company. We'll be talking all about growth strategies and OKR. Here's what we'll be covering:

    Intro on growth and growth strategiesThe difference between strategy and goal settingThe relationship between OKR and growth strategiesTask completion doesn't equal goal attainment (outcomes vs. outputs)How OKRs support an organization's strategyThe two schools of OKR: Strategy & HRThe importance of tracking OKR and strategy in the same placeUsing OKR to fit your organization's needsWhen OKR is useful for high growth companies

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  • There's no one-size-fits-all approach to rolling OKR out. The OKR framework provides you with a loose set of rules and instructions, however, organizations are free to adjust and use the framework in a way that best fits their needs!

    We spoke to Nichole, the OKR Ambassador at the company she works at, and she walks us through the successful yet untraditional approach that was taken to rolling OKR out.

    Excited to hear what that entails? Here's what we cover in the conversation:

    Why her organization decided to implement OKR A step-by-step walkthrough of the approach takenThe challenges facedHow the challenges were overcomeThe benefits of working with OKR Best practices when implementing OKR

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    If you're new to OKR or are just getting started, download The ultimate guide to OKR. We'll walk you through everything you need to know to get started with Objectives & Key Results.

    And, if you're looking to master the art of setting great OKRs, head over to our newly published (revised edition) eBook on How to write great OKRs.

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  • Let's talk strategy execution with none other than an expert — Stephen Bungay, author of The Art of Action and former consultant at The Boston Consulting Group.

    In this conversation we'll cover the following:

    What is strategy?The 4 conditions required to need a strategyDoes every organization need a strategy?The concept of strategic thinking and who should be doing itThe difference between a plan and a strategyThe 3 gaps in strategy execution How to avoid detail and provide clarityHow to execute a strategy

    In a nutshell, strategy is a framework for decision making. By providing such a framework, an organization has better direction to act and subsequently push the organization in a desired trajectory.

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  • In theory, OKR (Objectives & Key Results) is simple. However, it can be a challenge when rolling out the OKR framework across an entire organization.

    We spoke to Kathrin Hafermas, the OKR Ambassador at Proemion, who has a wealth of insights to share with you based on her learnings while implementing OKR at Proemion.

    Let's take a look at what an OKR rollout process looks like. What we'll discuss in this episode:

    Why Proemion decided to implement OKR The OKR rollout processChallenges facedApproaches taken to overcome those challenges How Proemion has benefitted from OKRBest practices you should keep in mind when implementing OKR

    A key takeaway: OKR won't be an overnight success — it requires planning, commitment and effort. Get this right, and you'll be successful.

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  • What really is an Individual OKR? And, why is there so much talk about working with Individual OKRs on the internet?

    Henrik-Jan van der Pol, CEO of Perdoo and Peter Kappus, an OKR consultant, are here to finally give some in-depth insight into Individual OKRs and clarify the misconceptions around them. 

    During the interview you'll get a deep-dive on:

    What Individual OKRs are all about Organizational structures that support working with Individual OKRsThe common misconceptions and consequences of working with Individual OKRsWhy organizations use Individual OKRsRecommendations on how to work with Individual OKRs

    Still want to learn more about Individual OKRs? Head over to these resources:

    Everything you need to know about Individual OKRsWhy Individual OKRs just aren't a thingThe pros and cons of Individual OKRs

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