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A mix of humor and insight as they count down their favorite moments in culture, including standout shows like Shogun and Welcome to Wrexham and emotional films like The Outrun.Reflections on the music that shaped their year, from the harmonies of The Lone Bellow’s “Honey” to the powerhouse vocals of artists like Dua Lipa and Olivia Rodrigo.Stories of live performances that were transformative, from intimate concerts to the collective joy of sports victories like the Dodgers’ championship.A laid-back conversation that invites you to think about your own highlights of the year, sprinkled with the kind of humor and tangents that feel like catching up with old friends.
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Doug and Mike reflect on the past year, sharing their top cultural moments and the personal stories behind them. From the films and TV shows that left a mark to the music that became a soundtrack to their lives, it’s a nostalgic and thoughtful journey through the art that shaped their 2024.It’s a celebration of art, connection, and the little things that make a year memorable—perfect for anyone looking to reflect or rediscover the joy of shared experiences.
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Ho Ho Ho Hosanna
Pour Ourselves Some Cheer
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Send a ContributionThe conversation delves into the captivating saga surrounding the murder of a healthcare CEO, exploring the complexities of the suspect's manifesto, media portrayal, and societal implications. The hosts discuss the nature of violence, personal boundaries, and the influence of women in society, while also critiquing the current state of woke culture and the importance of intention in representation. The dialogue reflects on personal experiences and the evolving landscape of societal norms and expectations.
The saga of the adjuster is multifaceted and captivating.Luigi Mangione's manifesto reveals deep-seated thoughts on the healthcare system.Media portrayal can significantly influence public perception of individuals.The complexity of violence is intertwined with human nature and survival instincts.Boundaries are essential for personal identity and self-protection.Pacifism and aggression coexist within individuals, creating internal conflict.The influence of women in society is powerful and necessary for change.Secrets can shape personal relationships and self-perception.Political dynamics often reflect deeper societal issues and personal experiences.Intention in art and representation is crucial for authenticity.Chapters
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The Captivating Saga of the Adjuster03:35
Unpacking the Manifesto and Its Implications06:46
The Arrest and Its Aftermath09:48
Media Narratives and Public Perception12:34
The Nature of Violence and Human Instincts15:36
The Role of Secrets and Boundaries18:45
Kinks, Nature, and the Human Condition21:49
The Evolution of Wolves and Humans24:46
The Political Landscape and Division27:44
The Power of Public Opinion30:42
Rationality vs. Animal Instincts in Voting32:38
The Flaws of Perfectionism in Women36:45
Challenging the Patriarchy41:47
The Complexity of Masculinity45:35
The Dilemma of Corporate Ethics50:41
Woke Culture and Authenticity01:00:34
Resting in Intentions01:01:57
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Episode Summary
In this conversation, Doug and Mike delve into topics ranging from microdosing LSD and the importance of rituals to the cultural impact of the musical Wicked. They share candid reflections on their relationships with various substances—caffeine, alcohol, ketamine, and psychedelics—emphasizing the significance of mindfulness, set and setting, and surrendering to personal growth. This dialogue is a thoughtful exploration of creativity, intentional living, and the lessons learned from both practices and accidents.Key Takeaways
Microdosing requires careful measurement and a mindful approach.Rituals hold significance in grounding practices and experiences.Wicked has made a lasting cultural impact, though Defying Gravity is often considered overrated.Set and setting are critical factors when using substances for personal growth.Reflection and intentionality can deepen understanding and enhance creativity.Letting go is less about achievement and more about surrender and relaxation.Ketamine can help access suppressed emotions and unlock creative potential.Daily mindfulness can help manage stress and encourage balance in life.Creativity is often sparked by inspiration but can also emerge from accidents.Being a vessel for creativity involves allowing flow and staying present.Chapters
00:00 Exploring Microdosing and Its Challenges
06:04 The Cultural Impact of Wicked
11:53 The Length of Modern Musicals
17:55 Reflections on Personal Relationships with Substances
25:02 Rethinking Caffeine and Its Role in Our Lives
31:18 The Spectrum of Substances: From Ketamine to Mushrooms
48:50 The Bufo Experience: Letting Go and Surrendering
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Join Mike and Doug as they dive into the magic of the holiday season, faith crises, and the beauty of creative expression. From writing Christmas songs to discussing the themes of the movie Heretic, this episode takes listeners on a journey through existential questions, love, and the power of finding meaning. Plus, they introduce the first snippets of their quirky and heartfelt Christmas music project.Show Notes:
Holiday Magic & Music:Mike shares his prolific streak, writing 25 minutes of Christmas songs with themes ranging from cozy nostalgia to solstice-inspired rebirth.Doug introduces the playful anthem "Ho Ho Ho Hosanna," setting the tone for their holiday album.Themes from Heretic:Exploring the psychology of faith crises and existential dread.The metaphors of descent, transformation, and rebirth in the film.The symbolic role of love and survival as guiding principles.Creative Flow vs. Performance:Struggles with authenticity when sharing music on platforms like TikTok.Balancing the joy of creation with the pressures of performance and visibility.Connection to Archetypes:Tying holiday traditions back to their ancient, archetypal roots.The solstice as a time of hope and renewal amid the darkest days.Listener Engagement:Updates on the "Mormons on Mushrooms Underground" newsletter.Teasing a live episode and ways to stay connected.Special Endings:Stay tuned for clips of their original Christmas songs!Enjoy this festive and thought-provoking episode filled with laughter, reflection, and a sprinkle of holiday cheer.
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Mike and Doug dive into a candid conversation exploring themes of chaos, music, and the rising feminine energy in today’s world as well as the wild dance of the human experience, holding space for both the serious and the playful.
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Divine Feminine Rising: Mike shares a oncert experience that led to a deep connection with feminine energy, including an encounter with the goddess Hecate.Reconnecting with Prayer: Mike talks about rediscovering prayer, not as a religious ritual but as a way to ground himself and send love to the people in his life.Embracing Community: We’re excited to keep Mormons on Mushrooms underground, and we’re building a close-knit, lo-fi network to keep our listeners connected without all the noise of mainstream platforms.Reflecting on the Election: We reflect on some hard truths we have learned about ourselves this past week. -
In this raw and unfiltered episode, Mike and Doug dive deep into the emotional whirlwind of the recent election results, expressing their frustrations, disappointments, and hopes for the future. They navigate complex topics like voter turnout, the power of social media echo chambers, and how political figures shape—and sometimes divide—our perceptions.
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Election Reflections:The impact of voter turnout and explores why many eligible voters stayed home this election.Doug vents his frustrations about the current political climate, particularly about how the media and social media algorithms feed polarized views.Kamala Harris’s campaign and the barriers faced by women and people of color in politics.Echo Chambers and Social Media:Mike opens up about getting swept into TikTok's echo chambers and reflects on how quickly it feeds confirmation bias.The importance of staying aware of these digital bubbles, how they influence emotions, and their role in elections.Tripping with Men:The importance of spaces for men to connect, find camaraderie, and be wild.Sometimes, all we need is a safe space to let it all out, to howl at the moon, and reconnect with ourselves and each other -
Mike and Doug catch up after a break, covering everything from luggage durability tests to the strange world of TikTok rabbit holes. They dive into echo chambers, politics leading up to the election, and the odd realities of air travel.
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Doug’s quest for the toughest carry-on luggage.Mike’s deep dive into TikTok, from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives to political spirals.The value of stepping out of echo chambers, and how air travel forces us to interact with different people.A chat on Trump, Kamala, the election landscape and feeling like elitists.Mike’s reflections on freedom after losing their Mormons on Mushrooms Instagram account. -
Mike is joined by Ann Amberg, M.C.S., M.A., depth psychology & ecopsychological scholar, and visionary guide, to explore how reconnecting with the Earth and its archetypal forces can transform our relationship with ourselves and the world around us. They dive into the erotic nature of the Earth, the power of longing, and the archetypal patterns that shape both personal and collective experiences.
Ann invites us to embrace the archetypal forces of Eros and Allurement, revealing how our culture's disconnection from nature has left us emotionally unfulfilled and spiritually disconnected. The conversation touches on everything from mythical understandings of Eros to practical ways of reconnecting with nature and the cosmos.
The erotic nature of the Earth and the concept of Eros as gravity and attractionArchetypal patterns and their influence on both personal and collective experiencesHow to connect with nature through praise, deep imagery, and somatic practicesAnn’s upcoming year-long immersion program, Powers of the Universe, exploring archetypal forces in a ritualistic and interactive formatReflections on longing, belonging, and the cultural disconnection from nature
In This Episode, We Explore:Mentioned in This Episode:
Powers of the Universe by Dr. Brian SwimmeThe role of ritual in eco-psychology and how archetypal awareness can heal our disconnection from the EarthJungian concepts of the self, longing, and the collective unconscious as they relate to our connection with nature
Connect with Ann Amberg: Ann’s work centers on providing transformative depth learning experiences and eco-psychological guidance. To learn more about her upcoming program or work with her one-on-one, visit:
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Mike is joined by Stephanie Brinkerhoff and Kelli Christine for a heartfelt and insightful discussion about their personal journeys out of Mormonism, the healing power of psychedelics, and navigating the complex emotions that come with deconstructing religious belief systems.They explore topics like spiritual bypassing, the importance of embracing grief and anger, and how these raw emotions can lead to deeper self-understanding and growth. The conversation sheds light on the tension between wanting to leave the past behind and the continual process of healing from religious trauma.
Key Topics Discussed:
Stephanie's and Kelli’s individual journeys of leaving Mormonism and how psychedelics helped them through their transitions.The concept of spiritual bypassing and why avoiding difficult emotions can block true healing.The role of anger and grief in personal growth, and how to honor these emotions rather than suppress them.How Mormonism’s focus on "happiness" as a measure of success can perpetuate emotional suppression.The importance of internal family systems (IFS) and parts work in healing from religious trauma.Breaking free from external validation and finding an authentic sense of self.Notable Quotes:
"I realized I've been giving myself love this whole time—I just thought it was Mormon God." – Stephanie"We have to be in that gestation period, in the cocoon, and trust that process before we can emerge on the other side." – Mike"Our souls want full participation in the human experience, and that includes both pleasure and pain." – KelliRecommended Resources:
The Soul’s Code by James HillmanPerfect Love, Imperfect Relationships by John Wellwood (coined the term "spiritual bypassing")Francis Weller’s teachings on grief and the full spectrum of human experience.Connect with Us: Follow Mormons on Mushrooms for more insights and episodes on spirituality, psychedelics, and life after leaving Mormonism:
Instagram: @MormonsOnMushroomsWebsite: MormonsOnMushrooms.comYouTube: @MormonsOnMushroomsSupport the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review and share it with others who may benefit from these conversations!
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Mike and Doug dive deep into the daily struggle of self-perception—are you a badass Samurai Warrior or... a Horny Santa Claus? Mike shares how his recent beach trip involved a self-baptism (because, why not?) and Doug introduces the golden rule: “You can’t force the night.” It's all about embracing your vibe, whether you're rocking the Samurai or channeling your inner Santa.
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Samurai Warrior vs. Horny Santa ClausMike’s coconut oil hair secrets Why you can’t force the night—let it unfold naturallyBoundary-setting and just rolling with the vibeA spontaneous ocean baptism -
Mike and Doug delve into deep reflections about self-love, body positivity, and the shame associated with personal pleasures rooted in their religious upbringing. The duo humorously tackles their experiences with masturbation, cultural guilt, and the journey of reclaiming self-compassion.
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Doug’s experience with self-love and the epiphany of slowing down in intimate moments.Overcoming religious shame tied to sexuality and body image.The interplay between physiological comedowns and spiritual guilt.Reflections on how the church influences feelings of worthiness, even after leaving it.Comparing how individuals inside and outside the church face the same emotions of shame, guilt, and worthiness.Realizing personal success and happiness outside of the church's teachings.Mike’s nostalgia for simpler times and how the longing for innocence intersects with spiritual freedom.Reflections on personal growth, aging, and the realization that life is full of endless possibilities.Creative exploration through songwriting and the importance of expressing oneself artistically. -
In this episode, Doug and Mike explore the dangers of taking things literally and how that impacts both religion and science. They also dive into the mysteries of the universe, share their thoughts on the recent presidential debate, and reflect on the cultural phenomena of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
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The Problem with Literalism: How taking things too literally, whether in religion or science, limits our ability to engage with deeper truths and mysteries.The Nature of the Universe: Mike reflects on the concept of an ensouled universe and the ways we engage with it—whether through science or personal experience.Presidential Debate Commentary: A humorous and critical look at the recent debate, touching on the absurdity of some of the comments made and the public's reaction.The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: An analysis of the show through the lens of Mormon culture, the Madonna-whore complex, and how the pressure of perfection plays out in the lives of its participants.Scarcity vs. Abundance: How Mormonism and capitalism create competition and scarcity mindsets, and why sharing and community might be the antidote.Join Doug and Mike for an insightful and entertaining discussion that zigzags through thought-provoking ideas and cultural critiques.
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We are joined by Karlee Ana, host of The Big Seen Podcast! We delve into the intricacies of spiritual awakening, the challenges of navigating personal intuition, and the tension between ego and higher self, including:
Key Takeaways:
Spiritual Awakening: Karlee shares her intense spiritual experiences that began with a seemingly random event and evolved into a life-altering journey, highlighting the power of trusting the unknown.Intuition vs. Ego: The hosts discuss how to differentiate between the voice of the higher self and the ego, exploring the idea that true guidance often feels undeniable and comes from a place of deep inner knowing.Impact of Religious Conditioning: Mike and Doug reflect on how their Mormon upbringing continues to influence their ability to connect with their true selves, despite years of separation from the religion.Karlee's European Adventure: A spontaneous trip to Europe becomes a metaphorical and literal journey for Karlee, leading her to a place she envisioned in meditation and ultimately deciding to move there.This episode offers a deep dive into the complexities of personal transformation and the courage it takes to follow one's true path.
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Here is a brief summary of the episode courtesy of our overlords at ChatGPT.
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Episode Description: In this episode, Doug and Mike take you on a wild ride from golf memes to deep ancestral connections, all while questioning why Doug is always off golfing alone. They dive into the weird and wonderful ways we project our expectations onto the dead, explore the possibility that goosebumps might mean someone’s thinking about you (in that way), and ponder if there’s a global conspiracy of people simultaneously fantasizing about Beyoncé. Whether you’re into ancestor work, feeling paranoid but sexy, or just wondering why your periods are syncing up with your best friend, this episode has something for everyone.Show Notes:
00:00 - Doug kicks things off by getting distracted by a golf meme, leading to a humorous discussion about life's interruptions.05:00 - The guys talk about the weird coincidences of life, including the universe’s timing and why Doug always seems to be missing out on life’s big moments.10:00 - A deep dive into ancestor work: Mike shares his thoughts on how we’re all just trying to make the dead bend to our will and what happens when we stop trying to "save" them.15:00 - "You’re Not Paranoid, You’re Sexy" – The guys explore the idea that when you get goosebumps, maybe it’s because a bunch of people are thinking about you... intimately.20:00 - Sex Magic 101: Doug and Mike stumble into a discussion on sex magic, wondering if it’s the secret sauce behind creativity.30:00 - The sanitized world of Mormon temple work versus the messy reality of death – why Doug and Mike think the dead deserve a little more chaos.45:00 - The importance of a reciprocal relationship with the dead: Mike shares insights from his dissertation work and how it’s changing his perspective on life, death, and everything in between.55:00 - Wrapping up with Doug’s dream: Why he feels like he’s always unprepared and what it might mean when the dead start making requests.This episode is a hilarious yet profound exploration of the strange intersections between our daily lives, our ancestors, and those moments when everything just seems to line up… or go completely off the rails.
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Trigger Warning: This episode includes a brief discussion around the themes of sexual assualt and consent. Please make your personal mental health top priority.
Doug and Mike discuss the olympics, the last supper, American pride, J.D. Vance, owning our shadow, their first masturbation stories, and give a loving tribute to all the couches they've f*cked along the way. Enjoy! -
Happy Pie N' Beer Day! In honor of our pioneer forebears, Doug and Mike question the concept of sacrifice, exploring its roots in religious teachings, cultural narratives, and personal experiences. They discuss the psychological impact of growing up with the idea that sacrifice is necessary for blessings and challenge the validity of this belief.
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Sacrifice in Religious and Cultural NarrativesThe story of Ammon and other narratives of violence and obedience in scriptureMormon God: A Sadomasochist Kink LordDepth psychological insights on sacrifice and its impact on the self. -
Mike and Doug dive into the complexity of modern life and the draw to more simplicity. They discuss the impact of technology on our mental health, the importance of reconnecting with nature, and the escalating tensions in society. They also reflect on personal experiences, nostalgia, and the need to find balance amidst chaos.
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We welcome back special guest Suzy Baker as we breakdown topics such as faith, skepticism, spirituality, patriotism and our relationship to Jesus as we explore questions such as:
In what ways can skepticism and spirituality coexist?How can we redefine our relationship with religious figures like Jesus?What role does community and cultural identity play in shaping personal beliefs and experiences?How do we navigate the balance between maintaining tradition and embracing new perspectives?Suzy Baker is the co-founder of the Psychedelic Assembly, the first brick and mortar psychedelic library, social club and event space located in the heart of New York City, Suzy curates social connection and platforms an impressive array of voices within the psychedelic space.
She's the co-founder of My Purple Lady, a new company developing plant-based mood enhancing products. She's also the head of community engagement for the psychedelic comedy tour 'A Better Trip', through which she is expanding The Psychedelic Assembly with regional events.
The Psychedelic Assembly
The Psychedelic Assembly strives to bring about positive change by uniting the transformative potential of psychedelics with the unfailing power of human connection. Our vision is further advanced through The Athenaeum, a physical space that serves as a hub for collaboration, education, and connection surrounding psychedelics in Midtown Manhattan. -
Doug and Mike return from a brief hiatus to share tales of Doug's wild and difficult mushroom trip, Mike's unexpected kiss with a flamboyant stranger, writing music, masculinity, primal rage, ketamine cavemen and much more.
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Mike and Doug delve into the fear of death, the desire for excitement, the acceptance of our impulses, and the shame that keeps us from fully living.
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