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Episode 50: Nature Boy Products Founder and Artisan Jacob Quetant joins the podcast to talk about how he turned his passion into a successful business that serves the health and wellness of his customers.
Jacob shares insights from growing up in Pasadena, describes his path to creating artisan beard care products, and talks about the legacy he wants to build as a creator and entrepreneur. The conversation closes with a discussion about the community he has created with Nature Boy Products and how he would spend the perfect day in Pasadena.
For more information, please visit www.natureboyproducts.com and follow Jacob on social media for the latest news and updates.
The featured music on the podcast is courtesy of Pasadena’s own The Nextdoors. Please visit nextdoorsmusic.com and follow them on social media for more information on their next live shows.
The Crown City Podcast is produced in partnership with Pasadena Media. For more information about this incredible non-profit serving the Pasadena community, please visit www.pasadenamedia.org.
For more information and to support The Crown City Podcast, please visit us at www.thecrowncitypodcast.com.
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Episode 49: Author and Publisher Pamela McColl joins the podcast for a special Holiday Episode to discuss her book Twas The Night - The Art and History of the Classic Christmas Poem in celebration of the bicentennial of the iconic poem “Account of A Visit From St. Nicholas” by Clement Clarke Moore on December 23, 1823.
During our conversation, Pamela discusses her journey in art and history and how it led to a personal ten-year project researching and curating a book on “Twas the Night Before Christmas.” Expanding on the poem’s theme, we talk about its impact on the spirit of the Holiday Season and how its message of kindness and generosity has stood the test of time.
For more information, please visit twasthenightbook.com and follow Pamela on Instagram at twasthenight_artandhistory for the latest news and updates.
This marks the 49th episode of The Crown City Podcast and the last for 2023. Thank you all for your love and support and I will see you next year!
The featured music on the podcast is courtesy of Pasadena’s own The Nextdoors. As a special gift for Hannakuah, Mika and Russell released the beautiful original Hebrew version of their featured song “All the Right Here” - “Tamid K’Rovim.”
Please visit nextdoorsmusic.com and follow them on social media for more information and updates on their live shows.
Finally, a special thank you to Christine Johnson from San Marino Toy & Book Shoppe. Please support them and all small businesses this holiday season.
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Episode 48: Piper + Enza’s Rita Ho-Bezzola joins the podcast to discuss the road she has taken from growing up in Taiwan and becoming a concert pianist to becoming the Founder and CEO of Piper + Enza.
During this engaging conversation, we talk about everything from the demands of family businesses to how going through Covid as a parent inspired Rita to launch Piper + Enza - a company built to provide children with engaging stories and toys and parents with expert resources to serve their family’s physical and mental wellbeing.
For more information, please visit piperandenza.com and follow them on Social Media for the latest news and information. As we head into the holiday season, please check out their store for some great items for your little ones!
The featured music on the podcast is courtesy of Pasadena’s own The Nextdoors. Please visit nextdoorsmusic.com and follow them on social media for more information and updates on their live shows.
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Episode 47: The Nextdoors’ Mika Larson and Russell Mark join the podcast to talk about the role music and the arts have played in their lives and how they have built a unique sound in East Pasadena.
As a duo, Mika and Russell have performed locally but also hosted shows in the Midwest, and in 2022, they released their debut album, Linda Vista - an ode to Americana music. We talk about their backgrounds growing up in Minnesota and Arizona, respectively, the origins of The Nextdoors, and their recently released music video for their song Awaken.
For more information about Mika’s work, please visit https://www.mikalarsonphotography.com and https://www.weddingsbymika.com and follow her on social media.
Russell’s production company can be found at https://hiwheelentertainment.com.
And for the latest from The Nextdoors, Please follow them on social media and YouTube and at https://nextdoorsmusic.com
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Episode 46: Merch Motel’s Barkev Msrlyan joins the podcast to discuss his journey from growing up in Pasadena to how his interest in design led him to launch Merch Motel, a retro-inspired brand built around historic places and vintage signs. With Merch Motel, Barkev has hosted events, produced one-of-a-kind collectibles, hosted his own podcast, and released wonderfully made videos.
For more information, please visit https://merchmotel.com and follow Barkev on social media, listen to Merch Motel Radio, and watch his videos on YouTube.
The featured music on the podcast is courtesy of Pasadena’s own The Nextdoors. Please visit nextdoorsmusic.com and follow them on social media for more information and updates on their live shows.
The Crown City Podcast can be found on most platforms, as I recently joined Acast.
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Episode 45: Found Coffee’s Annie Choi joins the podcast to discuss creating a community at Found Coffee, the shop she opened in 2015 in Eagle Rock.
While coffee has always been a part of her life, Annie’s journey took her from La Crescenta to UC San Diego and then a career in post-production, where she worked on some pretty big shows but was unhappy. She took an unpaid internship at one of her favorite coffee shops, and started her second career as a barista and eventually the owner of her own wonderfully bright and warm shop.
Found Coffee is located at 1355 Colorado Boulevard in Eagle Rock (Los Angeles), California.
For more information, please visit foundcoffeela.com and follow Annie on Social Media for the latest news and information about the shop.
The featured music on the podcast is courtesy of Pasadena’s own The Nextdoors. Please visit nextdoorsmusic.com and follow them on social media for more information and updates on their live shows.
The Crown City Podcast can be found on most platforms, as I recently joined Acast.
To support the podcast, please subscribe, leave a review on your favorite podcasting app or sponsor us at www.thecrowncitypodcast.com or www.patreon.com/thecrowncitypodcast. I am also experimenting with Substack and you can subscribe here.
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Episode 44: Esotouric’s Kim Cooper and Richard Schave come on the podcast to talk about their journey as guides and preservationists dedicated to keeping the stories and places of old Los Angeles alive.
In a far-reaching conversation, we talk about the responsibility of storytelling, the return of their famous bus tours after COVID-19, and an ongoing preservation battle over the B’nai B’rith Lodge on South Union Avenue in Downtown. This special episode was recorded at The Huntington Library, Art Museum, and Botanical Gardens in San Marino, and we discuss its role as one of the world’s great independent research libraries.
On Saturday, September 9th, Kim and Richard will host their Pasadena Confidential Crime Bus Tour.
For more information, please visit https://esotouric.com/ and follow them on Instagram and subscribe to their incredible Substack newsletter.
The featured music on the podcast is courtesy of Pasadena’s own The Nextdoors. Please visit nextdoorsmusic.com and follow them on social media for more information and updates on their live shows.
The Crown City Podcast can be found on most platforms, as I recently joined Acast.
To support the podcast, please subscribe, leave a review on your favorite podcasting app or sponsor us at www.thecrowncitypodcast.com or www.patreon.com/thecrowncitypodcast. I am also experimenting with Substack and you can subscribe here.
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Episode 43: Exploring Pasadena’s Julia Long joins the podcast to share her story of growing up in Pasadena, her adventures traveling and working in museums as a curator, and how she returned to Southern California.
With a love of history, Julia founded Exploring Pasadena - a walking tour project focused on what makes our area so interesting and unique. This summer, she joined the Pasadena Museum of History as Curator of History and Exhibitions and is already working on some amazing exhibits to celebrate the Museum’s centennial.
For more information about Julia’s walking tours, please visit www.exploringpasadena.com and follow her on Instagram.
The featured music on the podcast is courtesy of Pasadena’s own The Nextdoors. Please visit nextdoorsmusic.com and follow them on social media for more information and updates on their live shows.
The Crown City Podcast can be found on most platforms, as I recently joined Acast.
To support the podcast, please subscribe, leave a review on your favorite podcasting app or sponsor us at www.thecrowncitypodcast.com or www.patreon.com/thecrowncitypodcast
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Episode 38: Marla Frazee joins the podcast to talk about her journey growing up in the Los Angeles area and how illustrating her best friend’s book in the third grade started an illustrious career as an author and illustrator. For A Couple of Boys Have the Best Week Ever and All the World, Marla has been recognized twice as a Caldecott honoree, a distinction for being one of the best children’s book illustrators in the country.
In February 2023, Marla’s latest book, In Every Life, was published. It is a project with a Pasadena connection and a continuation of Marla’s incredible voice as an author and illustrator, blending intimate portraits and vast landscapes to share a timeless message. Over a plate of cookies and fruit, we discuss the importance of children’s books and how she creates stories that impact children and adult readers alike.
For more information about Marla, please visit her website at www.marlafrazee.com.
Special Guest: Marla Frazee
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Episode 37: Pablo Miralles joins the podcast to discuss growing up in Altadena and attending Pasadena’s iconic John Muir High School. After a college professor submitted a music video he filmed to a student film festival and he won, Pablo embarked on a career in filmmaking and storytelling.
In 2008, Pablo founded Arroyo Seco Films to create films, TV, and digital media productions that entertain and challenge. He co-wrote, co-directed, and co-produced “Gringos at the Gate” - a film about the soccer rivalry between Mexico and the US and his most recent film is the award-winning documentary "Can We All Get Along? The Segregation of John Muir High School.” It is a powerful film about Pasadena's history, California's public education, and community diversity.
You can stream “Can We All Get Along?” at www.pbs.org/video/can-we-all-get-along-ssbdcv and purchase it on Vimeo.
For more information on Pablo and Arroyo Seco Film’s current projects, including the upcoming “The Owen Brown Story,” please visit their website at https://arroyosecofilms.com/.
Special Guest: Pablo Miralles
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Jason Lyon joins the show to discuss his life in public service and how he went from growing up in North Carolina and wanting to make documentary films to pursuing a law career in California.
Since moving to Pasadena with his family, Jason has served on several critically important city commissions and boards, including the Historic Preservation and Planning Commissions and the Board of Zoning Appeals. These experiences, along with his non-profit work, provided Jason with invaluable knowledge and reinforced his passion for public service. In June of 2022, Jason was elected to the Pasadena City Council for District 7 and will take office in December. Jason shares why he choose to run for public office, his views on creating a unified city, his priorities on the City Council, and we close our conversation with his perfect day in District 7.
Special Guest: Jason Lyon
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Pat Amsbry joins the show to discuss his journey from advertising and owning a small business to why he is running for the PUSD Board for District 3.
A product of public schools, Pat has an interesting history. His family could not lottery into PUSD to accommodate his son’s special needs, so they had to explore private school options. However, believing that our community should better support its local schools, Pat and his wife created Friends of Madison Elementary, a non-profit donor-advised fund that provides charitable and educational support for students and their families and teachers and staff. Pat discusses his top priorities for PUSD, including improving 3rd Grade reading and accountability, and we close our conversation with his perfect day in The Crown City.
To learn more about Pat and his campaign, please visit www.pat4pusd.com and to support Friends of Madison Elementary, please visit www.friendsofmadison.org.
Special Guest: Pat Amsbry
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Episode 34: Patrice Marshall McKenzie joins the show to talk about the role that Pasadena public schools had in her success, her journey in education policy, and why she is running for the PUSD Board for District 5.
Believing that public education is a community benefit, Patrice has championed collaboration and policies to not only improve schools but other important operations like how contracts are awarded. Since 2015, Patrice has worked for LAUSD Board Member Dr. George McKenna and currently serves as his Deputy Chief of Staff. Showing her commitment to improving Pasadena schools and preparing them for the future, Patrice co-chaired the “Yes on Measure O” campaign, which raised $516 million in bonds to upgrade schools and infrastructure. Patrice shares her vision for Pasadena public schools and how we can make PUSD a premier school district, and we close our conversation with her perfect day in Pasadena.
To learn more about Patrice and her campaign, please visit www.patricemarshallmckenzie.com
And https://www.patrice4pasadena.com
Special Guest: Patrice Marshall McKenzie
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Episode 33: Pasadena Wine Shop’s Nicole Lalagüe joins the show to talk about her career as a sommelier and how a car accident inspired her to open up her own wine store in the Green Street Village.
After working for the Thomas Keller Group and managing local sales and distribution for some of the best wines in the world, Nicole opened the Pasadena Wine Shop in May 2022. The store carries a diverse and curated selection of wine, but more importantly, it offers each guest the opportunity to find their next perfect bottle. Nicole shares her unconventional path in the industry, what makes wine so unique, and her ideal day in Pasadena.
For more information and to support The Pasadena Wine Shop, please visit www.pasadenawineshop.com. The Pasadena Wine Shop is located at 1055 East Green Street and is open from Tuesday to Sunday.
Special Guest: Nicole Lalagüe
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Episode 32: My Zero Waste Store’s Cheryl Auger joins the show to talk about her upbringing and career in engineering, project management, and cybersecurity and how a chance conversation changed how she viewed plastic and recycling.
In the summer of 2020, Cheryl opened My Zero Waste Store to reduce our dependence on plastics and to offer customers a more sustainable shopping experience. As of June 2022, My Zero Waste Store has eliminated more than 3.1 million pieces of plastic and recently received a 2022 Sustainable Earth Small Business Award. In addition to owning My Zero Waste Store, Cheryl is an environmental activist and leader of BAN SUP, a group dedicated to raising awareness and advocating for local and statewide legislation to reduce plastic in our communities.
For more information and to support Cheryl’s shop, please visit www.myzerowastestore.com and her advocacy organization BAN SUP at www.bansup.net. My Zero Waste Store is located at 25 South El Molino Avenue in the heart of Playhouse District.
Special Guest: Cheryl Auger
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Episode 31: Historian Bill Deverell joins the show to discuss his interest in the American West, the importance of studying our past, and his excellent podcast series Western Edition.
Bill originally considered following his father’s footsteps of being a doctor before dedicating himself to exploring the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. Following professorships at UC San Diego and CalTech, Bill became a teacher at USC and then the Director of the Huntington-USC Institute on California and the West and one of the founding directors of the Los Angeles Service Academy. In 2021, Bill and the Huntington-USC Institute on California and the West launched Western Edition, a wonderful podcast series that explored our relationship with fire in season one and Los Angeles’ Chinatown in season two.
For more information and to support Bill’s work, please visit https://dornsife.usc.edu/icw and https://laserviceacademy.org.
For information and to listen to the Western Edition podcast, visit https://apple.co/3S26pdk
Special Guests: Bill Deverell
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Episode 30: Tournament of Roses’ Senior Event Manager Mariela Spillari joins the show to talk about the impact of her hard-working family, how she got involved with large-scale event planning, and her favorite part of a parade.
Born in Guatemala and raised in New York, Mariela has built a successful career in one of the most stressful and demanding jobs imaginable. Before joining the Tournament of Roses to work on the most recognized parade in the world - The Rose Parade - Mariela was an event manager at Macy’s, where she worked on the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade and Fourth of July Fireworks, among countless others. In 2019, she joined LA Pride as Producer of the LA Pride Parade, an experience that has had a tremendous impact on her personally.
For more information and to support Mariela’s work, please visit https://tournamentofroses.com and https://lapride.org
Special Guests: Mariela Spillari
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PCC Board of Trustee Sandra Chen Lau joins the show for a conversation about the role education had in her early life, her work with non-profits and higher education, and why she ran for the Pasadena City College Board of Trustees in 2018.
Raised in Monterey Park after her family immigrated from China, Sandra attended Rio Hondo College before earning her bachelor’s degree from UC Riverside and a master’s degree from UCLA. As a non-profit philanthropy executive, she has worked to improve higher education while at Pacific Oaks College in Pasadena, UCLA, and USC. Sandra joined the PCC Board of Trustees to help bring some governing stability to such a storied institution and her mission continues as PCC faces new headwinds following Covid. Among other topics, we talk about falling enrollment, the rising cost of higher education, parenthood, and some of her favorite places around Pasadena.
To learn more about Sandra and her campaign, please visit www.sandraforpccboard.com.
Special Guest: Sandra Chen Lau
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Lauretta Records’ CEO Katrina Frye joins the show for an in-depth discussion about her early involvement in the arts, the state of the music industry, why it was important to create an independent music label, and how she empowers artists to build long-term careers.
Born and raised in San Luis Obispo, Katrina has built her career in arts management with incredible experiences such as being a band manager, a successful entrepreneur, and now as the founder of Lauretta Records. Believing that music is currently in a renaissance, Katrina works to create a sustainable platform for Lauretta Records’ emerging artists by breaking them into what she calls the new radio - television and film.
For more information about Lauretta Records, please visit www.laurettarecords.com, follow them on all social media platforms and listen to the work of their amazing artists on Spotify and SoundCloud.
Special Guests: Katrina Frye
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Lindy Hop Dancers Ellie Jay and Mike Foncannon join the show for an enjoyable conversation about dancing, their passion for swing, how they came together as partners, and what brought them to Pasadena in 2021. Los Angeles and Pasadena have a rich history in Lindy Hop, and Ellie and Mike have brought their unique style to this energetic and artistic scene.
Ellie and Mike come from different backgrounds but share a love of dance. They are the creatives behind Sunny Side Syncopators, a social club and dance production company, teach swing and Lindy Hop at the Athletic Garage Dance Center and participate in competitions, such as the International Lindy Hop Championships (Check out their Open Classic Preliminary routine from 2019).
For more information about Sunny Side Syncopators, please visit www.sunnysidesyncopators.com and follow them on social media (including their YouTube channel) for details on all the fun trouble they get into, whether it be teaching a local class or just enjoying a night out dancing.
Special Guests: Ellie Jay and Mike Foncannon
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