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  • To the majority of humankind, rocks may appear to be static, timeless objects, but not to the geologist Marcia Bjornerud. In her mind, rocks are rich pieces of text that have evolved (and continue to evolve) across millennia, and are therefore incredibly timeful. “They almost demand reading,” Bjornerud says on this episode of Time Sensitive. “You have the feeling that you’re communicating with some larger, wilder, more ancient wisdom.” A two-time Senior Fulbright Scholar, a professor of geology at Lawrence University in Wisconsin, and an expert on the geophysics of earthquakes and mountain building, Bjornerud serves as a sort of geological translator of these “texts,” reading their encrypted messages and stories—tracing their etymologies, essentially—and from there inferring why things are the way they are. Bjornerud’s translations shine across her four books, including the newly published Turning to Stone: Discovering the Subtle Wisdom of Rocks.

    On the episode, she discusses the power of looking at the world through a Deep Time lens, why we’re currently in what she considers a “golden age” of geoscience, and what a “time literate” society would mean for humanity and the planet.

    Special thanks to our Season 10 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    Marcia Bjornerud

    [15:18] Timefulness: How Thinking Like a Geologist Can Help Save the World

    [07:16] Turning to Stone: Discovering the Subtle Wisdom of Rocks

    [07:16] “Studying Stones Can Rock Your World”

    [07:16] Geopedia: A Brief Compendium of Geologic Curiosities

    [07:16] Carbon cycle

    [09:47] Rock deformation

    [13:54] The overview effect

    [17:42] “Geology Is Like Augmented Reality for the Planet”

    [21:28] Colonization of Mars

    [21:28] Anthropocene

    [29:06] Planned obsolescence

    [29:06] Green technology revolution

    [31:40] Seventh Generation Principle

    [34:01] Stonehenge

    [38:29] University of Minnesota

    [41:02] Svalbard, Norway

    [41:02] Norwegian Polar Institute

    [44:15] Yoshihide Ohta

    [50:06] “Lost Time in Amatrice”

    [54:19] Kola Superdeep Borehole

  • With great privilege, believes the humanitarian and entrepreneur Nachson Mimran, comes great responsibility. Brought up in a family that operates one of the largest agri-industrial businesses in West Africa, Mimran comes from considerable wealth, but unlike so many who have a background such as his, he is open and forthright about his inheritance and the responsibility he sees of doing good with it. With his decarbonization, refugee empowerment, and “human optimization” organization to.org, he’s creating deep impact through various design and development projects in refugee settlements—including the Bidi Bidi Performing Arts Center, completed last year in Uganda—and empowering individuals and communities via what he describes as “venture philanthropy.” At The Alpina Gstaad hotel in the Swiss Alps, which he’s the co-founder of, he provides exceptional hospitality experiences that subvert certain traditional industry codes, fostering a relaxed but elevated environment.

    On the episode, recorded in front of a live audience at The Lobby “hospitality event” in Copenhagen earlier this fall, Mimran discusses his big-picture view of the word hospitality; how a family tragedy led him and his brother to found to.org; and his bold vision for building transformative spaces for refugees.

    Special thanks to our Season 10 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    Nachson Mimran

    [00:44] The Lobby

    [03:46] to.org

    [09:37] The Alpina Gstaad

    [09:37] Jean Claude Mimran

    [11:00] Marcel Bach

    [13:47] Arieh Mimran

    [19:29] Pangaia

    [23:28] Regenerate

    [23:28] Kakuma Refugee Settlement

    [23:28] Sumayya Vally

    [26:04] Hassell

    [26:04] Xavier De Kestelier

    [27:06] Bidi Bidi Performing Arts Centre

    [27:06] Bidi Bidi Refugee Settlement

    [27:49] Mike Zuckerman

    [27:49] Nakivale Refugee Settlement

    [32:11] The Throne

    [38:16] Kutupalong Refugee Settlement

    [48:09] André Balazs

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  • Perhaps best known for his novels Motherless Brooklyn (1999), The Fortress of Solitude (2003), and Chronic City (2009)—or, more recently, Brooklyn Crime Novel (2023)—the author, essayist, and cultural critic Jonathan Lethem could be considered the ultimate modern-day Brooklyn bard, even if today he lives in California, where he’s a professor of English and creative writing at Pomona College. His most celebrated books take place in Brooklyn, or in the case of Chronic City, on Manhattan’s Upper East Side, and across his genre-spanning works of fiction, his narratives capture a profound sense of the rich chaos and wonder to be found in an urban existence. Lethem is also the author of several essay collections, including the newly published Cellophane Bricks: A Life in Visual Culture (ZE Books), which compiles much of his art writing from over the years written in response to—and often in exchange for—artworks by friends, including Gregory Crewdson, Nan Goldin, and Raymond Pettibon.

    On the episode, Lethem discusses his passion for book dedications; the time he spent with James Brown and Bob Dylan, respectively, when profiling them for Rolling Stone in the mid-aughts; how his work is, in part, a way of dealing with and healing from his mother’s death in 1978, at age 36; and why he views his writing as “fundamentally commemorative.”

    Special thanks to our Season 10 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    Jonathan Lethem

    [5:35] Cellophane Bricks

    [5:35] High School of Music and Art

    [5:35] Motherless Brooklyn

    [5:35] The Fortress of Solitude

    [5:35] The Disappointment Artist

    [7:15] Carmen Fariña

    [9:08] The Great Gatsby

    [9:08] Brooklyn Crime Novel

    [10:59] Lynn Nottage

    [13:08] Bennington College

    [23:41] The Collapsing Frontier

    [23:41] Italo Calvino

    [27:37] Dada movement

    [27:37] Dissident Gardens

    [31:21] Nan Goldin

    [34:33] “The Ecstasy of Influence”

    [42:32] “Being James Brown: Inside the Private World of the Baddest Man Who Ever Lived”

    [42:32] “The Genius and Modern Times of Bob Dylan”

    [51:00] Chronic City

    [1:06:26] Jorge Luis Borges

  • To the lighting designer Lindsey Adelman, light is at once ubiquitous and precious, quotidian yet miraculous; it can be easily overlooked or taken for granted, but it also has the potential to become transformative or even otherworldly. Through her craft-forward approach, Adelman creates pieces that defy strict labels and explore the tensions between organic and industrial forms and materials, combining hand-blown glass with industrial and machine-milled components. Since launching her eponymous company in 2006, she has built a formidable business, perhaps becoming best known for her Branching Bubble chandeliers, a series that consists of glass “bubbles” elegantly mounted on the ends of brass, bronze, or nickel “branches.” Adelman also runs an experimental space called LaLAB as a means of exploring and meditating on illumination through the creation of one-off and limited-edition pieces, as well as private commissions.

    On the episode, she discusses her recent decision to shift her company away from a large-scale production operation and toward a smaller, more intimate “studio” model; the great surprise of having one of her designs installed in Vice President Kamala Harris’s Washington, D.C., home; and her love of hosting.

    Special thanks to our Season 10 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    Lindsey Adelman

    [6:05] Ingo Maurer

    [6:05] Gaetano Pesce

    [7:55] Burst Chandelier

    [12:22] “A Realm of Light”

    [14:55] Isamu Noguchi’s Akari light sculptures

    [17:20] Yosemite National Park

    [18:41] James Turrell

    [18:41] House of Light

    [20:47] Noguchi’s “Lunar Infant”

    [24:40] Writings by Agnes Martin

    [26:52] Hiroshi Sugimoto

    [27:46] David Lynch

    [29:08] “Paul McCarthy: WS”

    [29:08] Matthew Barney

    [30:54] Haruki Murakami

    [33:14] “A Cacao Ceremony That Brought Close Friends Even Closer”

    [48:13] Branching Bubble chandelier

    [48:13] Buckminster Fuller

    [52:01] Adelman’s open-source D.I.Y. light project

    [52:30] David Weeks

    [52:30] Lunette

    [52:46] “The Lighting Designer From Everyone’s Dream Brooklyn Brownstone”

    [52:46] Rich People Problems

    [52:46] Gwyneth Paltrow

  • In the eyes of the architecture critic Paul Goldberger, a building is a living, breathing thing, a structure that can have a spirit and even, at its best, a soul. It’s this optimistic perspective that has given Goldberger’s writing a certain ineffable, captivating quality across his prolific career—first at The New York Times, where he served as the paper’s longtime architecture critic, winning a Pulitzer Prize in 1984; then as the architecture critic at The New Yorker from 1997 to 2011; and now, as a contributing editor at Vanity Fair. Goldberger is the author of several books, including Building Art: The Life and Work of Frank Gehry (2015), Why Architecture Matters (2009), and Building Up and Tearing Down: Reflections on the Age of Architecture (2009). He is also the chair of the advisory board of the Glass House in New Canaan, Connecticut, where we recorded this episode, our third “site-specific” interview on Time Sensitive.

    On the episode, Goldberger discusses the Glass House’s staying power as it turns 75, the evolution of architecture over the past century, what he’s learned from writing architects’ obituaries, and the Oreo cookie from a design perspective.

    Special thanks to our Season 10 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    Paul Goldberger

    [05:17] Glass House

    [05:17] Philip Johnson

    [07:06] Ludwig Mies van der Rohe

    [07:06] Farnsworth House

    [08:42] Brick House

    [12:37] Gordon Bunshaft

    [12:37] Lever House

    [12:37] Frank Lloyd Wright

    [12:37] Guggenheim Museum

    [13:18] TWA Flight Center

    [13:18] Kevin Roche

    [13:18] Ford Foundation building

    [13:18] CBS Building

    [15:17] Noyes House

    [16:17] U.N. Headquarters

    [17:50] Centre Pompidou

    [17:50] I.M. Pei

    [17:50] Louvre Pyramid

    [17:50] Frank Gehry

    [17:50] Guggenheim Bilbao

    [20:00] Walt Disney Concert Hall

    [23:20] Stuyvesant Town

    [24:24] “Oreo, at 75, the World’s Favorite Cookie; Machine Imagery, Homey Decoration”

    [25:46] “Quick! Before It Crumbles!: An architecture critic looks at cookie architecture”

    [25:46] Nora Ephron

    [26:18] “Design Notebook; Commonplace Things Can Be Great Designs”

    [27:16] Bauhaus

    [29:10] Fallingwater

    [29:10] Richard Neutra

    [29:10] Lovell House

    [29:10] Gehry House

    [29:10] Louis Kahn

    [32:38] “Philip Johnson, Architecture’s Restless Intellect, Dies at 98”

    [32:38] “Louis I. Kahn Dies; Architect Was 73”

    [35:30] Paul Rudolph

    [36:50] Zaha Hadid

    [37:22] “New Police Building”

    [38:19] Henry Geldzahler

    [41:31] Why Architecture Matters

    [43:21] Chrysler Building

    [47:28] Vincent Scully

    [48:18] Lewis Mumford

    [1:00:47] The City Observed: A Guide to the Architecture of Manhattan

    [1:00:47] World Trade Center

    [1:02:49] “Here Is New York” by E.B. White

    [1:05:33] Design: The Leading Hotels of the World

    [1:07:25] Ritz Paris

    [1:07:25] The Dylan Amsterdam

    [1:09:01] “Why Buildings Grow On Us”

  • The artist Francesco Clemente may have been born and raised in Naples, but—having lived and worked around the world, including in Rome, India, New York City, and New Mexico—he considers himself a citizen of no place. Widely known for his work across mediums, from drawings and frescoes to mosaics, oils, and sculptures, Clemente makes art that evokes his mystical perspective, with his paintings often featuring spiritual subjects or dreamlike symbols. Beyond exhibiting in galleries and museums, over the years Clemente has also made works for a variety of other venues, including a nightclub, a hotel, a Hollywood film, and the Metropolitan Opera. This fall, his work (and name) will be central to his latest unusual project: the soon-to-open Clemente Bar at chef Daniel Humm’s three-Michelin-starred restaurant Eleven Madison Park.

    On the episode, Clemente discusses his collaboration with Humm, frescoes as the most luminous artistic medium, his deep affinity with India, and the certain timeworn quality to his art.

    Special thanks to our Season 10 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    Francesco Clemente

    [3:55] Clemente Bar

    [3:55] Eleven Madison Park

    [3:55] Daniel Humm

    [3:55] Alba Clemente

    [7:50] Murals for the Palladium nightclub

    [7:50] Hudson Hotel

    [7:50] Ian Schrager

    [8:43] Arata Isozaki

    [8:43] Philippe Starck

    [8:43] Kenny Scharf

    [8:43] Keith Haring

    [8:43] Jean-Michel Basquiat

    [8:43] Steve Rubell

    [9:43] Works for Great Expectations (1998)

    [9:43] “The Sopranos” series

    [9:43] Portrait of Fran Lebowitz

    [11:37] Portrait of Toni Morrison

    [23:12] Jiddu Krishnamurti

    [23:12] Theosophical Society

    [24:49] Álvaro Siza

    [24:49] Museo Madre

    [32:48] Cy Twombly

    [32:48] Joseph Beuys’s exhibition “We Are the Revolution” (1972)

    [35:30] Rudolf Steiner

    [36:56] Letters to a Young Poet by Rainer Maria Rilke

    [37:57] Swami Vivekananda

    [39:20] Salman Rushdie

    [41:31] Nisargadatta Maharaj

    [46:51] Andy Warhol

    [46:51] Allen Ginsberg

    [48:13] William Blake

    [48:54] Raymond Foye

    [48:54] Hanuman Books

    [50:04] “The Four Corners” (1985)

    [53:36] Saint Francis

  • In her new book, The Unseen Truth: When Race Changed Sight in America (Harvard University Press), the historian and Harvard professor Sarah Lewis unpacks a major part of United States history that until now wasn’t just brushed over, but was intentionally buried: how the ​​Caucasian War and the end of the Civil War were conflated by P.T. Barnum, former President Woodrow Wilson, and others to shape how we see race in America. Long overdue, The Unseen Truth is a watershed book about photography and visuality that calls to mind works by history-shaping authors such as James Baldwin, Toni Morrison, and bell hooks. Lewis is also the founder of the Vision & Justice initiative, which strives to educate the public about the importance of art and culture for equity and justice in the U.S., and is launching a new publishing venture with Aperture this fall.

    On the episode, she discusses the tension between pedagogy and propaganda; the deep influence of Frederick Douglass’s 1861 “Pictures and Progress” lecture on her work; how a near-death car crash altered the course of her life and The Unseen Truth; and the special ability of certain photographs to stop time.

    Special thanks to our Season 10 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    Sarah Lewis

    [04:01] The Unseen Truth

    [05:24] Woodrow Wilson

    [05:24] Frederick Douglass

    [05:24] P.T. Barnum

    [06:51] Toni Morrison

    [06:51] Angela Davis

    [06:51] Mathew Brady

    [51:14] Vision & Justice

    [11:35] Caucasus

    [14:02] Imam Shamil

    [17:38] Caucasian War

    [19:31] MFA Boston

    [19:31] The Metropolitan Museum

    [22:30] “Pictures and Progress”

    [28:41] “A Circassian”

    [28:41] “Slave Ship”

    [28:41] “The Gulf Stream”

    [35:13] Frances Benjamin Johnston

    [39:20] Jarvis Givens

    [39:20] Fugitive Pedagogy

    [44:05] The Rise: Creativity, the Gift of Failure, and the Search of Mastery

    [49:08] Montserrat

    [49:08] Under the Volcano

    [51:36] Aperture

    [52:26] Maurice Berger

    [52:26] Coreen Simpson

    [52:26] Doug Harris

    [52:26] Deborah Willis

    [52:26] Leigh Raiford

    [52:57] Hal Foster

    [56:01] Hank Willis Thomas

    [56:01] Theaster Gates

    [56:01] Mark Bradford

    [56:01] Amy Sherald

    [57:58] Wynton Marsalis

    [57:58] Charles Black, Jr.

    [57:58] Louis Armstrong

    [57:58] Brown v. Board of Education

  • For Rita Sodi, cooking isn’t so much an art or a science, but rather an intuitive way for her to channel her Tuscan roots and provide a profound sense of home. Following a 15-year career in the world of fashion as a self-described “denim guru” for Calvin Klein Jeans, Sodi transitioned into the realm of restaurants in 2008, when she moved to New York City from Bagno a Ripoli, Italy, and opened the West Village establishment I Sodi. Soon after, Sodi serendipitously met her life and work partner, Jody Williams—the chef-owner of the French bistro Buvette—and the two went on to found the restaurant group Officina 1397. Now, in addition to I Sodi and Buvette, they also operate Via Carota, The Commerce Inn, and Bar Pisellino. Across all of Sodi’s undertakings, her motive is clear: to create dishes she loves with great care and rigor, and, at least in the cases of I Sodi and Via Carota, to share an abiding passion for Tuscan cooking.

    On the episode, Sodi discusses learning to cook from her mother, her atypical journey from fashion to food, and some of the stringent rules she follows in the kitchen and in life.

    Special thanks to our Season 10 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    Rita Sodi

    [25:50] Tuscany

    [4:50] West Village

    [5:58] I Sodi

    [6:47] Calvin Klein Jeans

    [8:31] Jody Williams

    [8:31] Via Carota

    [8:31] Officina 1397

    [8:31] Bar Pisellino

    [8:31] The Commerce Inn

    [8:31] Buvette

    [20:29] Pete Wells

    [23:22] “An Ode to I Sodi”

    [23:22] “The 100 Best Restaurants in New York City 2024”

    [23:22] “When I Want to Be Alone, I Eat Dinner at the Bar at I Sodi”

    [25:50] Bagno a Ripoli

    [29:35] “The Laws of Tuscan Eating at I Sodi in the West Village”

    [48:26] Emilia-Romagna

    [53:53] Jeff Gordinier

  • To the landscape designer Edwina von Gal, gardening is much more than just seeding, planting, weeding, and watering; it’s her life calling. Since starting her namesake firm in 1984 in East Hampton, on New York’s Long Island, she has worked with, for, and/or alongside the likes of Calvin Klein, Larry Gagosian, Frank Gehry, Maya Lin, Annabelle Selldorf, Richard Serra, and Cindy Sherman, creating gardens that center on native species and engage in other nature-based land-care solutions. In 2008, von Gal founded the Azuero Earth Project in Panama to promote chemical-free reforestation with native trees on the Azuero Peninsula. Stemming out of this initiative, in 2013, she then founded the Perfect Earth Project to promote chemical-free, non-agricultural land management in the U.S. Her most recent effort, Two Thirds for the Birds, is a call-to-action to plant more native plants and eliminate pesticides, thus creating a greater food supply for birds.

    On the episode, she discusses the meditative qualities of gardening; reframing landscaping as “land care”; and why she sees herself not as a steward of land, but rather as a collaborator with it.

    Special thanks to our Season 9 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    Edwina von Gal

    [15:32] William Cronon

    [15:32] Changes in the Land

    [15:32] Tiokasin Ghosthorse

    [24:04] Carl Sagan

    [24:04] The Demon-Haunted World

    [26:07] Perfect Earth Project

    [40:37] Two Thirds for the Birds

    [42:41] John Fitzpatrick

    [42:41] Cornell Lab of Ornithology

    [42:41] Merlin Bird ID

    [47:01] Garden Club of America

    [50:21] Diana Vreeland

    [51:09] Peter Sharp

    [51:09] Channel Gardens at Rockefeller Center

    [54:46] Frank Gehry

    [54:46] Biomuseo

    [54:46] Bruce Mau

    [56:32] Azuero Earth Project

    [1:00:37] Doug Tallamy

    [1:02:01] Nature’s Best Hope

    [1:05:12] The High Line

    [1:05:12] Brooklyn Bridge Park

    [1:05:12] The Battery Conservancy

    [1:05:12] Brooklyn Museum

  • While he may technically practice as a photographer, artist, and architect, Hiroshi Sugimoto could also be considered, from a wider-lens perspective, a chronicler of time. With a body of work now spanning nearly five decades, Sugimoto began making pictures in earnest in 1976 with his ongoing “Diorama” series. In 1980, he started what may be his most widely recognized series, “Seascapes,” composed of Rothko-esque abstractions of the ocean that he has taken at roughly 250 locations around the world. In more recent years, Sugimoto has also built a flourishing architectural practice, designing everything from a café in Tokyo to the currently-under-construction Hirshhorn Sculpture Garden in Washington, D.C. As with his subtly profound work, Sugimoto bears tremendous wisdom and is regarded by many as one of the most deeply perceptive minds and practitioners at the intersection of time and art-making.

    On the episode, he discusses his pictures as fossilizations of time; seascapes as the least spoiled places on Earth; and why, for him, the “target of completion” for a building is 5,000 years from now.

    Special thanks to our Season 9 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    Hiroshi Sugimoto

    [5:10] Pre-Photography Time-Recording Devices

    [39:05] “Theaters”

    [15:06] “Seascapes”

    [32:31] “Diorama”

    [17:16] Caspar David Friedrich

    [25:14] Odawara

    [28:52] “Aujourd’hui le monde est mort [Lost Human Genetic Archive]”

    [44:19] “Abandoned Theaters”

    [44:19] “Opera Houses”

    [44:19] “Drive-In Theaters”

    [49:52] “Architecture”

    [51:12] Le Corbusier

    [51:12] Mies van der Rohe

    [55:30] New Material Research Laboratory

    [55:30] Tomoyuki Sakakida

    [59:23] Enoura Observatory

    [59:23] Hirshhorn Sculpture Garden

    [1:00:48] Katsura Imperial Villa

    [1:01:05] Bruno Taut

    [1:02:14] Donald Judd

    [1:02:14] “Hiroshi Sugimoto: Five Elements in Optical Glass”

    [1:06:47] Mingei

    [1:06:47] Isamu Noguchi

    [1:06:47] Dan Flavin

    [1:09:15] Sugimoto Bunraku Sonezaki Shinju: The Love Suicides at Sonezaki

    [1:09:15] At the Hawk's Well

    [1:09:15] W.B. Yeats

  • Soon to celebrate his 50th birthday by journeying from Paris to Tokyo by car along the Southern Silk Road, the French Moroccan creative director, artist, and entrepreneur Ramdane Touhami says he’s “thirsty for life like it’s just the beginning,” and it shows. Among his 17 (yes, 17) companies are the cult grooming brand Officine Universelle Buly 1803, which he and his wife co-founded in 2014 and sold to LVMH in 2021; the Paris-based creative agency Art Recherche Industrie, whose clients include Christofle, Moynat, and Gohar World; and Hotel Drei Berge, which he opened in the Swiss Alps last year. With each of his enterprises, Touhami has proven, time and again, how much craft matters—that there’s a real demand for it in a streamlined world that prioritizes efficiency, and that it’s not necessarily at odds with turning a profit.

    On the episode, Touhami talks about the parallels between Japan and Switzerland, business as a religion, and the healing power of mountains.

    Special thanks to our Season 9 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    Ramdane Touhami

    [5:29] Hotel Drei Berge Hotel

    [5:29] Élisée Reclus

    [8:36] Angelo Mangiarotti

    [8:36] Tobia Scarpa

    [8:36] Dieter Rams

    [5:29] “Ramdane Touhami’s Peak Performance”

    [17:12] Mos Def

    [20:28] Henry David Thoreau

    [28:16] Officine Universelle Buly 1803

    [28:16] Cire Trudon

    [1:00:35] Aman

    [27:06] Ignacio Mattos

    [28:16] LVMH

    [34:54] An Atlas of Natural Beauty

    [34:33] Bernard Arnault

    [34:54] Izumi Aki

    [41:54] Société Helvétique d’Impression Typographique

    [43:54] Émile Shahidi

    [44:30] Radical Media

    [44:59] Tricontinental magazine

    [57:24] “A Parisian Designer Builds His Dream House in a Former Brothel”

    [1:00:35] Southern Silk Road

  • At age 4, following the fall of Saigon, in 1975, Viet Thanh Nguyen and his family fled Vietnam and came to the U.S. as refugees. Throughout the turmoil and its aftermath, neither he nor his family could have imagined that he would go on to not only become an internationally renowned novelist—winning a Pulitzer Prize in 2016 for his debut novel, The Sympathizer (2015)—but also to serve as an executive producer of an HBO miniseries adaptation of the book, and become a widely respected voice on matters including anti-Asian hate, refugees and immigrants, war and genocide, and memory and memorials. In addition to The Sympathizer, Nguyen has written, among other books, the new memoir A Man of Two Faces (2023); The Sympathizer’s sequel, The Committed (2021); and the nonfiction title Nothing Ever Dies: Vietnam and the Memory of War (2016).

    On the episode, Nguyen talks about turning The Sympathizer into an HBO miniseries, the polarities between what he calls “narrative plenitude” and “narrative scarcity,” and jokes as a form of truth-telling.

    Special thanks to our Season 9 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    Viet Thanh Nguyen

    [3:43] “An Open Letter on the Situation in Palestine”

    [3:43] Min Jin Lee

    [5:48] F. Scott Fitzgerald

    [7:11] The Sympathizer

    [7:11] The Sympathizer HBO series

    [7:11] Robert Downey Jr.

    [7:11] Sandra Oh

    [8:41] A Man of Two Faces

    [8:41] Casualties of War

    [8:41] Apocalypse Now

    [8:41] Platoon

    [8:41] The Deer Hunter

    [11:48] Arundhati Roy

    [14:18] 2016 Pulitzer Prize for Fiction

    [21:33] Fall of Saigon

    [33:34] The Great Gatsby

    [37:26] Portnoy’s Complaint

    [40:28] Great America amusement park

    [47:24] Maxine Hong Kingston

    [51:06] Chicken of the Sea

    [51:06] Simone

    [56:19] Operation Petticoat

    [56:19] I Was a Male War Bride

    [56:19] Catch 22

    [56:19] Richard Pryor

  • Born and raised in Pennsylvania, the 97-year-old Pittsburgh-based artist and sculptor Thaddeus Mosley has a deep and enduring obsession with wood. In his late 20s, he began to use the material for art, carving sculptures in his basement studio, and with his sculpture-making now spanning 70 years, his enduring dedication to his craft is practically unparalleled. Represented by Karma gallery since 2019, Mosley has only now, in the past decade or so, begun to receive the international recognition and attention he has long deserved. In his hands, wood sings; he shapes and carves trees into striking abstract forms that often appear as if they’re levitating while honoring and preserving their organic, natural character. As with the work of his two main influences, Constantin Brâncuși and Isamu Noguchi, Mosley, too, strives to make sculptures that, in his words, beyond today, “will be interesting in a hundred tomorrows.”

    On the episode, he talks about the language that poetry, music, and sculpture all share; his early years as a sports writer for a local newspaper; and his life-transforming relationship with the Carnegie Museum of Art in Pittsburgh.

    Special thanks to our Season 9 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    Thaddeus Mosley

    [4:13] Sam Gilliam

    [17:24] Carnegie Museum

    [21:08] Carnegie International

    [21:08] Leon Arkus

    [21:08] “Thaddeus Mosley: Forest”

    [21:08] “Inheritance”

    [24:20] Isamu Noguchi

    [27:53] Constantin Brâncuși

    [28:28] University of Pittsburgh

    [28:28] Martha Graham

    [46:15] Floyd Bennett Field

    [46:23] Ebony magazine

    [46:23] Sepia magazine

    [46:23] Jet magazine

    [46:23] Pittsburgh Courier

    [54:34] John Coltrane

    [51:37] Li Bo

    [51:37] Dylan Thomas

    [56:21] Bernard Leach

    [57:45] Langston Hughes

    [57:45] Countee Cullen

    [57:45] Harriet Tubman

    [57:45] Fannie Lou Hamer

    [57:45] “The Long-Legged Bait”

    [57:45] “Air Step - for Fayard and Harold Nicholas”

    [57:45] The Nicholas Brothers

  • Most widely recognized for his paintings that rigorously combine spray paint, stenciled geometric forms, and brushstrokes, the Brooklyn-based artist Adam Pendleton is also known for his “Black Dada” framework, an ever-evolving philosophy that investigates various relationships between Blackness, abstraction, and the avant-garde. Many will recognize Pendleton’s work from “Who Is Queen?,” his 2021 solo exhibition at New York’s Museum of Modern Art, which he has said was his way of “trying to overwhelm the museum.” This is a natural position for him: His works in and of themselves are often overwhelming. At once political and spiritual, they provoke deep introspection and consideration, practically demanding viewers to look, and then look again.

    On this episode, he discusses the elusive, multifarious nature of “Black Dada”; “An Abstraction,” his upcoming exhibition at Pace Gallery in New York (on view from May 3–August 16); painting as a kind of technology; and why, for him, jazz is indefinable.

    Special thanks to our Season 9 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    Adam Pendleton

    [05:00] Joan Retallack

    [05:00] Pasts, Futures, and Aftermaths

    [05:22] “Becoming Imperceptible”

    [07:41] Ishmael Houston-Jones

    [07:41] Joan Jonas

    [07:41] Lorraine O’Grady

    [07:41] Yvonne Rainer

    [07:41] Jack Halberstam

    [14:26] Fred Moten

    [05:22] “Who Is Queen?”

    [23:50] Hugo Ball’s Dada Manifesto

    [23:50] Amiri Baraka’s “Black Dada Nihilismus”

    [31:14] Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum

    [31:14] “System of Display”

    [31:14] “Reading Dante”

    [34:40] “Adam Pendleton” at Pace Gallery

    [34:40] “An Abstraction” at Pace Gallery

    [34:40] Arlene Shechet

    [34:40] “Adam Pendleton x Arlene Shechet”

    [40:30] “Blackness, White, and Light” at MUMOK

    [45:07] “Twenty-One Love Poems” by Audrienne Rich

    [50:40] “Occupy Time” by Jason Adams

    [56:04] “What It Is I Think I’m Doing Anyhow” by Toni Cade Bambara

    [57:13] “Some Thoughts on a Constellation of Things Seen and Felt” by Adrienne Edwards

  • The cheeky, happy-go-lucky spirit of the British fashion designer Paul Smith can be felt across everything he does, from his own clothing designs to his multifarious collaborations—Maharam textiles, Mini cars, Burton snowboards, and a suite at the Brown’s Hotel in London among them. Though Smith may run a business with expert tailoring and a mastery of color at its core, everything he creates seems to suggest, with a wink, “Don’t take yourself too seriously.” Beyond designing clothes, Smith also serves as a mentor to the next generation of designers. In 2020, he launched Paul Smith’s Foundation, through which he helps guide young creatives as they develop their careers. Fifty-four years into his business, which opened its first store in Nottingham, England, in 1970, Smith now operates shops in more than 70 countries around the world, from New York and Los Angeles to Paris and Hong Kong.

    On this episode, he discusses his deep, 40-plus-year engagement with the country of Japan; his long-view approach to building a business that transcends time; his ever-growing collection of rabbit ephemera; and the metamorphic impact of music and humor on his life and work.

    Special thanks to our Season 9 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    [3:31] Paul Smith

    [6:33] Rei Kawakubo

    [12:55] Elle Decor Japan

    [21:41] Deyan Sudjic

    [21:41] John Hegarty

    [23:48] Paul Smith’s Foundation

    [24:00] Studio Smithfield Fashion Residency

    [24:00] John Galliano

    [24:00] Alexander McQueen

    [24:22] Jony Ive

    [31:30] Bauhaus

    [34:50] Beeston Road Club

    [40:30] The Mini Strip

    [48:24] Paul Smith Nottingham Store

    [53:30] Maharam collaboration

    [53:30] Burton collaboration

    [53:30] The Rolling Stones

    [54:19] Brown’s Hotel Sir Paul Smith Suite

    [54:39] David Bowie

    [54:39] Patti Smith

    [54:39] Eric Clapton

    [54:39] Jimmy Page

    [1:01:57] Jean-Luc Godard

  • Three years ago, at age 66, the Belgium-born writer and critic Lucy Sante—known for her award-winning essays, criticism, and books, including Low Life: Lures and Snares of Old New York (1991)—announced to a few dozen close friends that she was transitioning to womanhood. This news came following nearly four decades of publishing her work under the byline Luc Sante. In her new memoir, I Heard Her Call My Name (Penguin Press), which she discusses at length on this episode of Time Sensitive, Sante writes about the first six months of her recent transition, the decades-long silence that preceded it, and various piercing moments from her life that led up to it. She is also the author of books such as Nineteen Reservoirs (2022), The Other Paris (2015), and Folk Photography (2009), and her writing has appeared in publications including The New York Review of Books, The New York Times, Artforum, and Vanity Fair. Across all of her work, Sante brings a searing, no-nonsense clarity and a photographic eye for detail.

    Also on this episode, Sante talks about why she thinks of the 1960s as “a kind of magic time,” her life-transforming literary journey, and her decision to open the floodgates of her womanhood.

    Special thanks to our Season 9 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    [3:49] Lucy Sante

    [3:49] I Heard Her Call My Name

    [3:49] The Factory of Facts

    [6:27] Nineteen Reservoirs

    [6:27] Low Life

    [9:28] Histories of the Transgender Child

    [9:28] Jules Gill-Peterson

    [22:11] Tintin

    [24:07] Terry Southern

    [24:07] Writers in Revolt

    [24:07] Alexander Trocchi’s Caine’s Book

    [24:07] Allen Ginsberg’s “Howl”

    [24:07] Peter Orlovsky

    [24:07] William Burroughs’s Naked Lunch

    [24:07] Curzio Malapart’s Kaputt

    [29:05] The New York Review of Books

    [34:23] Folk Photography

    [36:55] The Other Paris

    [38:04] Walker Evans

    [38:04] Robert Frank

    [46:10] Maybe People Would Be the Times

    [49:52] “The Invention of the Blues”

    [51:41] The Velvet Underground

    [51:41] Lou Reed

    [51:41] Andrew Wylie

  • To the cult British interior and furniture designer Ilse Crawford, interiors too often take a backseat to architecture. Through her humanistic, systems-thinking, “Frame for Life” approach, however, Crawford has shown how interiors and architecture should instead be viewed on the same plane and, as she puts it on this episode of Time Sensitive, “walk hand in hand.”

    Widely known for creating indoor spaces that are notable in their tactility, warmth, and comfort—environments that incorporate, to use her phrase, “visceral materiality”—Crawford oversees her namesake London-based design studio, Studioilse, which she launched in 2003, and whose projects include the first Soho House members’ club in New York, the Ett Hem hotel in Stockholm, and the Cathay Pacific lounges in Hong Kong. Crawford is also the founder of the department of Man and Wellbeing at the Design Academy Eindhoven, in the Netherlands, which she headed for two decades. Prior to her career as a designer, she was the celebrated founding editor of Elle Decoration U.K.

    On this episode, Crawford discusses her approach to crafting beautiful, highly original spaces that push against today’s speedy, copy-paste, Instagram-moment world; her early career in media; and her personal definition of the word “slow.”

    Special thanks to our Season 9 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    [5:09] StudioIlse

    [7:25] A Frame for Life

    [58:32] Design Academy Eindhoven

    [7:25] Svenkst Tenn

    [7:25] Ett Hem

    [16:36] Jeanette Mix

    [1:02:51] Cathay Pacific

    [47:42] Elle Decoration

    [29:11] The Eyes of the Skin

    [33:52] Alvar Aalto

    [33:52] Paimio Sanatorium

    [33:52] Christopher Alexander

    [31:35] Sensual Home

    [35:24] Leonard Koren

    [35:46] Frida Escobedo

    [47:42] Architect’s Journal

    [47:42] The World of Interiors

    [47:42] Min Hogg

    [52:48] Donna Karan

    [54:04] Soho House

    [54:04] Babington House

    [1:00:08] Home Is Where the Heart Is?

  • The Italian chef Massimo Bottura may be a big dreamer, but he’s also a firmly grounded-in-the-earth operator. Based in Modena, Italy, Bottura is famous for his three-Michelin-starred restaurant, Osteria Francescana, which has twice held the top spot on the World’s 50 Best Restaurants list. He also runs Food for Soul, a nonprofit dedicated to promoting social awareness about food waste and world hunger. With its first Refettorio opened in 2015, Food for Soul now runs a network of 13 Refettorios around the world—from Paris to San Francisco to Naples—designed to serve people in need via food-recovery programs. In 2019, with his wife, Lara Gilmore, he also opened Casa Maria Luigia, a hospitality concept in the Emilian countryside that became the jumping-off point for their new recipes-slash-interiors book, Slow Food, Fast Cars (Phaidon). In everything he does, Bottura keeps the tradition of the Emilia-Romagna region alive while constantly imagining and executing new possibilities.

    On this episode, Bottura discusses the art of aging balsamic vinegar; his vast collection of thousands upon thousands of vinyl records; his deep love of Ferraris, Lamborghinis, and Maseratis; and how he thinks about the role of time, both literally and philosophically, in and out of the kitchen.

    Special thanks to our Season 9 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

    Show notes:

    Massimo Bottura

    [03:27] Food for Soul

    [03:27] Refettorio Harlem

    [03:27] Refettorio Ambrosiano

    [03:46] Universal Exposition in Milan

    [15:36] Carlo Petrini

    [10:40] Gastromotiva

    [12:30] “Chef Massimo Bottura on Why the Future of Food is in Our Trash”

    [15:22] Slow Food, Fast Cars

    [15:36] Trattoria del Campazzo

    [56:07] Casa Maria Luigia

    [58:50] Osteria Francescana

    [41:32] Cavallino

    [41:32] Lo Mejor de la Gastronomia

    [43:30] Joseph Beuys

    [43:30] Lara Gilmore

    [1:01:42] Tortellante

  • To Helen Molesworth, curating is much more than carefully selecting and positioning noteworthy artworks and objects alongside one another within a space; it’s also about telling stories through them and about them, and in turn, communicating particular, often potent messages. Her probing writing takes a similar approach to her curatorial work, as can be seen in her new book, Open Questions: Thirty Years of Writing About Art (Phaidon), which culls together 24 of her essays written across three decades. For nearly 20 of those years, Molesworth served in various curatorial roles at museums and arts institutions including the Baltimore Museum of Art, the Institute of Contemporary Art Boston, and most recently, as the chief curator at the Museum of Contemporary Art in Los Angeles (MOCA). In the five years since her departure from MOCA, Molesworth has built a thriving practice as an independent curator, writer, and podcaster, notably as the host of the six-part podcast Death of an Artist, which was named a best podcast of 2022 by both The Economist and The Atlantic.

    On this episode of Time Sensitive, Molesworth discusses her lifelong engagement with the work of Marcel Duchamp; the transformative power of a great conversation; and the personal and professional freedom she has found in recent years as a roving, independent voice in the art world.

    Special thanks to our Season 8 sponsor, Van Cleef & Arpels.

    Show notes:

    [00:25] Helen Molesworth

    [03:50] Open Questions: Thirty Years of Writing About Art

    [04:02] Marcel Duchamp

    [04:09] “At Home with Marcel Duchamp: The Readymade and Domesticity”

    [11:33] “The Creative Act”

    [12:09] Marcel Duchamp’s “Fountain”

    [17:22] Frank Stella

    [17:28] John Baldessari

    [21:56] Paul Lafargue

    [22:32] Doris Salcedo

    [29:50] Josiah McElheny

    [35:23] Al Hirschfeld

    [36:41] State University of New York at Albany

    [36:43] Whitney Museum Independent Study Program

    [36:48] Cornell University

    [42:33] “One Day at a Time”

    [46:57] Kerry James Marshall

    [47:00] “This Will Have Been: Art, Love & Politics in the 1980s”

    [47:02] “Leap Before You Look: Black Mountain College 1933-1957”

    [47:41] Death of an Artist

    [47:46] Dialogues: The David Zwirner Podcast

    [47:48] Recording Artists

    [54:53] Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles

    [54:51] Carl Andre

    [59:45] WBLS: The Quiet Storm

  • In another life, the German-born architect Annabelle Selldorf might have been a painter or a profile writer. In this one, she expresses her proclivity for portraiture as the principal of the New York–based firm Selldorf Architects, which she founded in 1988. Renowned for its work in the art world—from galleries such as David Zwirner and Hauser & Wirth to cultural institutions including The Frick Collection in New York, the National Gallery in London, and the Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden in Washington, D.C.—Selldorf’s firm has also designed a wide variety of residential projects and civic buildings. Many of these designs serve as architectural depictions of their respective clients, revealing each one’s inner nature and underlying ethos.

    On this episode, Selldorf discusses the links she sees between Slow Food and her architecture, the intuitive aspects of form-making, and why she considers architecture “the mother of all arts.”

    Special thanks to our Season 8 sponsor, Van Cleef & Arpels.

    Show notes:

    [00:31] Selldorf Architects

    [08:19] The Frick Collection

    [10:42] Lucian Freud

    [17:45] Dia Beacon

    [18:43] Art Gallery of Ontario expansion

    [18:54] Two Row

    [18:57] Diamond Schmitt

    [26:08] Sunset Park Material Recovery Facility

    [30:03] CSO Red Hook

    [30:05] CSO Owls Head

    [34:31] National Gallery, London

    [35:17] One Domino Park

    [37:15] John Russell Pope

    [37:28] Thomas Hastings

    [43:13] I.M. Pei

    [55:38] Ludwig Mies van der Rohe

    [58:54] Neue Galerie