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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston go through TKO’s Q3 earnings report, a breakdown of the Crown Jewel show, and chat about the WON Hall of Fame.
Pollock and Thurston discuss the details from Wednesday’s Q3 earnings and call with analysts, the key takeaways from the report, and a follow-up interview Mark Shapiro did on CNBC.
Our guest is U.K. journalist Robert Jackman, who attended the WWE events in Saudi Arabia this past weekend and provides an in-person report on WWE’s popularity in the country, fans who travel to the shows, and its relationship with the General Entertainment Authority.
Plus, What does a Trump administration mean for Vince McMahon?
And, we go through the candidates for the Wrestling Observer Newsletter’s Hall of Fame.
VIDEO VERSION: https://youtube.com/live/7q9RuizIuuE
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston provide a breakdown of the WWE ID program, which was announced this week.
They discuss the details the company has shared along with additional information and many questions this initiative brings up.
Mark Pollesel, promoter of C*4 Wrestling in Ottawa, Ontario, joins us to share his reaction to WWE ID program and the response he received on Tuesday after outlining those issues on X.
Plus: A report suggests Vince McMahon is looking to resume his career, WrestleMania 41 tickets create an uproar, TKO’s stock responds to acquisition announcement, and WWE returns to Saudi Arabia for Crown Jewel and Raw.
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston are joined by Greg Gutzler and Lee Cole to discuss the lawsuit filed by five ex-WWF ring boys against Vince & Linda McMahon and TKO.
This is a detailed look at the 82-page complaint, the allegations by five John Does who worked for the WWF throughout the 1980s, and what they accuse the WWF of knowing.
Greg Gutzler, partner at DeCello Levitt, is representing the five ex-ring boys and speaks about the development of this case, the process leading to Wednesday’s filing, and the horrific details outlined.
Lee Cole, the older brother of the late Tom Cole, joins us to share his feelings on this lawsuit being filed, carrying out his brother’s wishes, and he was caught up in the middle of this story during the early ‘90s through his brother.
VIDEO VERSION: https://youtube.com/live/vMzH2xvRjK0
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss the long ties between the UFC and Donald Trump
Journalist Karim Zidan of Sports Politika returns to chat about his new audio series In the Red Corner detailing Trump’s history with the promotion and how it has served the Republican strategy to cater to its audience.
Plus: Preliminary approval is granted by Judge Richard Boulware, Rolling Stone speaks with six ex-WWE writers, Piers Morgan presents a trainwreck involving Vince Russo and Phil Mushnick, NXT books the 2300 Arena in Philadelphia with an immediate sellout, and all the latest TV ratings.
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NOTE: Sorry for the poor quality of Brandon's audio. I had tech issues just as we were going live -Brandon
John Pollock and Brandon Thurston chat about the latest filing by Janel Grant’s team and look back at the career of the late Joe Koff.
This past week, Grant’s team filed a memorandum opposing Dr. Carlon Colker & the Peak Wellness clinic’s attempt to dismiss their bill of discovery as Grant continues to seek her past medical records.
Former ROH COO Joe Koff passed away this week and we welcome former ROH staff member Jordan Goodman to share his thoughts on working with Koff, the popularity of the promotion, running at Madison Square Garden, and how Koff will be remembered in the industry.
VIDEO VERSION: https://www.youtube.com/live/6RQkTvaDS7o
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston are joined by Janel Grant’s spokesperson Kendra Barkoff Lamy to speak about their request for WWE to waive NDAs.
Then, Pollock & Thurston will speak with independent wrestler Logan Knight about yesterday’s meeting of the Oklahoma State Athletic Commission, in which officials declined to change their rule that prevents transgender wrestlers from participating in matches.
Plus: Note on the AEW ownership structure, site fee figure for SummerSlam 2025 in New Jersey, TV ratings from the past week & more.
VIDEO VERSION: https://youtube.com/live/LzukZ2V5enE
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AEW and Warner Bros. Discovery announced a renewal of Dynamite and Collision for TBS and TNT in a deal that will also broadcast the program live in homes without cable through the Max streaming service.
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The latest news in pro wrestling business, with Brandon Thurston.
-AEW and WBD announce media deal renewal
-NXT debuts on CW, with the network's highest P18-49 of 2024
-State of AEW, WWE TV ratings, attendance as Q3 ends
-What WBD & AEW announced, what we still don't know
-Why household reach is an important focus of the deal
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-If Smackdown goes to 3 hours, why didn't NBCU just renew Raw?
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston examine the subject of independent contractors in pro wrestling following the suit filed by Kevin Kelly and The Tates.
Pollock and Thurston welcome lawyer Stephen New to discuss the lawsuit filed by Kevin Kelly & The Tates against AEW, Tony Khan & Ian Riccaboni, and the argument of whether AEW talents are misclassified as independent contractors.
Plus: How well Mr. McMahon performed in its first week on Netflix, SmackDown vs. Fox, what the move to CW means for NXT, and the countdown continues for AEW’s media rights announcement(s).
VIDEO VERSION: https://www.youtube.com/live/3vD6R86lyqI
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston share their thoughts on the six-part Mr. McMahon series released by Netflix.
They discuss the major points from the Netflix series and welcome David Bixenspan to speak about the strengths and weaknesses of the series, who was interviewed, what stories were covered, and overall reaction to how McMahon was covered.
Plus: TKO announces a revised settlement in the Cung Le antitrust case, WWE announces Summerslam 2025 in New Jersey.
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss AEW closing in on its media rights deal with guest Brandon Ross of LightShed Partners.
Earlier this week, Puck’s John Ourand reported that an announcement of AEW’s media rights deal with WBD could be coming as early as next week. Pollock & Thurstom welcome analyst Brandon Ross to discuss the details, AEW’s place within WBD’s portfolio, SmackDown’s exit from Fox, and the success of this past weekend’s Noche UFC event at Sphere in Las Vegas.
Plus: Return of Saturday Night’s Main Event on NBC, SmackDown tops Friday’s cable rankings on USA Network, UFC sets its all-time gate record for Sphere event, and NXT moves locations for its October 8 show on CW.
VIDEO VERSION: https://youtube.com/live/sOJjQYcWUgg
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston react to the news of WWE moving Raw to a two-hour format in October.
The two chat about the financials of WWE’s deal with NBC Universal, and the short-term extension for the final thirteen weeks of 2024 before the franchise moves to Netflix.
Plus: Tony Khan indicates AEW is very close to the announcement of a media rights deal, SmackDown ends its run on Fox, the NFL returns, more details on the Kevin Kelly & Tate Twins lawsuit, Milwaukee to bid for a WWE PLE, and the UFC embarks on its most ambitious live event ever.
VIDEO VERSION: https://www.youtube.com/live/92fPCLeTURM
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston speak about the latest attendance figures for AEW All In at Wembley Stadium.
Kevin Kelly and The Tate Twins have filed a lawsuit against AEW, Tony Khan, and Ian Riccaboni, and we break down the complaint.
Thurston goes through the turnstile count for AEW All In at Wembley Stadium and the latest figures attached to the show.
The two chat about their reporting on the Mr. McMahon series, Janel Grant being approached for an interview, and WWE no longer having production credit on the project.
TKO’s Mark Shapiro is interviewed, Cody Rhodes is asked about Janel Grant at the WWE press conference, and Bash in Berlin sets an arena record for WWE.
VIDEO VERSION: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A5QNHU_WIw
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WWE and AEW TV ratings and attendances for August 2024 reviewed by Brandon Thurston, plus listener questions.
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss all the news following AEW’s return to Wembley Stadium for All In London.
Neal Flanagan of POST Wrestling joins us to chat about his in-person experience of covering All In London, the press conference afterward, and his question about the creative structure within AEW.
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Plus, Brandon Thurston has secured the records from the City of San Antonio regarding Royal Rumble 2023, the UFC launched a lawsuit over an alleged illegal showing of UFC 298, a town hall meeting at WWE & more.
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston chat about AEW going into its biggest show of the year and welcome Todd Martin.
Todd Martin of The Fix on PW Torch speaks about AEW’s second show at Wembley Stadium, the health of the company, AEW’s identity shift, the pending TV announcements, and overall lead-up to All In.
Plus, AEW All In 2025 in Texas, Tony Khan avoids speaking about Britt Baker’s recent suspension, the UFC antitrust case receives a trial date, Hulk Hogan mocks Kamala Harris, and John Cena on the Club Shay Shay Podcast.
VIDEO VERSION: https://youtube.com/live/shtSHZLb9vY
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston are back to discuss TKO’s second-quarter earnings report and developments in the Janel Grant case.
Pollock and Thurston welcome Patrick Auger back to discuss the TKO earnings report, the key areas highlighted in the report, the state of the UFC antitrust cases, and notable points brought up during TKO’s call with analysts.
Plus, the latest in the Janel Grant case where a judge has denied Vince McMahon’s motion, Dr. Carlon Colker responds to Grant’s accusations, and Pollock & Thurston chat about their SummerSlam experience.
VIDEO VERSION: https://youtube.com/live/-gmhLKkXzc0
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Brandon Thurston on the latest news in wrestling business:
- The business of WWE Summerslam
- Update on WWE and AEW TV ratings & attendance trends thru Jul 2024
- Estimated top merchandise sellers
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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston go over a huge breakdown of next year’s WrestleMania and how Las Vegas landed the event.
The two also go over the ruling by Judge Richard Boulware rejecting the UFC’s settlement in its antitrust cases, SummerSlam weekend in Cleveland, how a WWF precedent from 2000 could play a role in the WBD vs. NBA case, Tony Khan’s comments about Ring of Honor & more.
VIDEO VERSION: https://www.youtube.com/live/ggdo9CebtSI
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