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This week, we engage in a thought-provoking discussion on leadership and the philosophy of inquiry with Ralph Mercer.
We examine the significance of challenging our assumptions and fostering robust thinking in collaborative environments. Ralph shares insights from his diverse background, including his experiences in the military and academia, to illustrate how our worldviews shape our understanding of the future.
We discuss the role of technology in shaping human experiences, the concept of gray swans in foresight, and practical methods for analyzing literature through causal layered analysis. Join us as we unpack these ideas and consider how they can enhance our leadership practices and decision-making processes.
SHOWNOTES are here.
Key Quotes
"Better leadership needs better thinking. If we can think about what our common drivers are, our common drivers create connection." Zoë Routh
"When we have connection, we can actually create a path forward. That is the magical thinking that we're after." Zoë Routh
"Our understanding of ourselves and the world around us defines how we see the present and the future, and very much how we deal with our problems every day." Ralph Mercer
"Causal layered analysis became a very good way for me to take apart the book and look at what was hoping to psychologically motivate me to believe this way." Ralph Mercer
"If you're reading something to develop yourself or to understand the bigger picture, then you've really being human to yourself and to those that you're going to be dealing with." Ralph Mercer
Questions Asked
How can we effectively challenge our thinking and develop robust perspectives in leadership?
In what ways do metaphors and underlying philosophies shape our understanding of leadership literature?
What tangible benefits arise from deep reading and analyzing texts to enhance our leadership capabilities?
Take Action
Challenge Your Worldview: Regularly reflect on beliefs and engage with diverse perspectives and consider how they influence your leadership style.
Join a Book Club: Participate in discussions analyzing literature on societal issues.
Practice Deep Reading: Analyze metaphors and philosophies in leadership literature for deeper understanding.
Engage in Reflective Dialogue: Initiate conversations to find common values and foster empathy.
Commit to Lifelong Learning: Seek diverse information sources to continuously expand your knowledge base.
Tip of the Week:
Review the collaboration self-checklist - available for subscribers only. Join the community here. You’ll get 40 book summaries and recommendations on Leading Strategy and Performance, along with a special secret audio from my award-winning book, People Stuff.
Key Moments
00:00 Introduction and Weekly Question
00:20 Google's Nuclear Power Deal
01:14 Zoe's Personal Updates
02:06 Understanding Different Perspectives
06:08 Tea Time with Ralph Mercer
07:03 Exploring Leadership and Technology
11:37 Analyzing Books with Causal Layered Analysis
15:46 The Importance of Deep Reading
21:49 Challenges in Technology and Society
25:34 Envisioning the Future: Who Stands Next to You?
26:26 Post Humanism and Ethical Technology
27:31 Rethinking Our Relationship with Technology
28:31 The Importance of an Evolving Worldview
29:18 Quantum Social Sciences and New Perspectives
30:35 Books That Shift Worldviews
34:20 Leadership: Understanding Power Dynamics
36:33 The Fast Three: Future Tech, Leadership Tips, and Reading Recommendations
40:19 The Gray Swan Guild Book Club
43:53 Fiction Books on the Future
46:23 Conclusion: Stretching Our Brains and Changing Worldviews
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In this special episode, Zoe, a leadership futurist and Canadian Australian in Canberra, dives deep into the implications of the US election results. Despite living outside the US, she reflects on the global ripple effects of American democracy and economy, discusses the division between political sides, and explores the values and stories driving these reactions.
Zoe examines the leadership maturity framework and emphasizes the importance of curiosity, compassion, and systemic thinking in bridging political divides. She also stresses the necessity of supporting security and education initiatives to build a better future.
Full Shownotes here.
Key Moments:
00:00 Introduction to the U.S. Election Solo Sode
00:15 Why the U.S. Election Matters Globally
01:26 Diverse Reactions to the Election Results
02:26 Understanding Moral Outrage
03:30 Analyzing Values in the Election
06:00 The Power of Compelling Stories
07:07 Leadership Maturity and Election Dynamics
11:01 Elon Musk: Genius or Power Player?
12:49 Moving Forward: System Thinking and Civic Responsibility
17:07 Conclusion: Bridging the Gap for a Better Future
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This week, we explore the future of leadership, focusing on exponential thinking and futures literacy with Charlotte Kemp. We discuss the importance of developing a flexible mindset, utilising strategic foresight tools, and adopting iterative learning methods to navigate an increasingly complex world.
The conversation covers various topics, including SpaceX's innovations, the impact of generative AI on creativity, and practical techniques for intelligence gathering and scenario planning.
SHOWNOTES are here
Key Quotes:
1. "Exponential thinking is about understanding that we have to change our thinking for the pace and the time that we're in; the world is so much faster and more complex." Zoë Routh
2. "Futures thinking gives us the tools to anticipate change, allowing us to be more agile and flexible in how we respond to whatever happens next." Charlotte Kemp
3. "As leaders, we must get really good at asking genius questions and creating unusual connections, as that is where our true value lies." Zoë Routh
4. "Our brains can't tell whether what we're thinking about is an imaginary story or a real experience, which is why we need to prepare ourselves for both worst-case and best-case scenarios." Charlotte Kemp
5. "The old five-year strategic plan can be thrown out; we need new ways of approaching our leadership that reflect the interconnected, fast-paced world we live in." Zoë RouthQuestions Asked:
What is exponential thinking?
What are some examples of different ways of approaching our leadership or our thinking in an exponential world?
How do these tools, like scenario planning, actually prepare our brains?What practical steps can leaders take to ensure they are prepared for both negative and positive outcomes?
Take Action
1. Develop a flexible mindset by regularly challenging your assumptions and seeking diverse perspectives.
2. Practice scenario planning to prepare for multiple possible futures.
3. Implement iterative learning methods in your organization to adapt quickly to changes.
4. Engage in environmental scanning to gather intelligence on emerging trends and potential disruptions.
5. Cultivate futures literacy by exploring various futures thinking tools and methodologies
Tip of the Week
Review the collaboration self-checklist - available for subscribers only. Join the community here. You’ll get 40 book summaries and recommendations on Leading Strategy and Performance, along with a special secret audio from my award-winning book, People Stuff.
Key Moments
00:00 Welcome to the Future of Leadership
00:33 SpaceX and the Journey to Mars
01:16 Leadership Training in Western Australia
01:49 Upcoming Projects on Planet Zoe
02:38 The Role of Generative AI in Creativity
04:09 Introducing Charlotte Kemp: Futures Alchemist
04:57 Understanding Exponential Thinking
07:04 The Importance of Futures Thinking
09:25 Scenario Planning: Preparing for the Future
17:38 Mistakes in Strategic Leadership
22:29 Mindset, Toolset, and Skillset for Future Leadership
24:27 The Four Stages of Futures Thinking
24:37 Gathering Intelligence: The First Stage
24:48 Managing Change: The Second Stage
25:23 Describing the Future: The Third Stage
25:33 Testing Strategy: The Fourth Stage
26:58 Practical Techniques for Intelligence Gathering
30:24 Avoiding Confirmation Bias
32:35 Examples of Leading Exponentially
34:26 Iterative vs. Revolutionary Approaches
36:56 The Fast Three: Quickfire Questions
40:30 Conclusion and Final Thoughts -
In this episode, we explore the importance of recognizing non-obvious trends and their implications for leadership and innovation with Rohit Bhargava, a 3-time Wall Street Journal Bestselling Author.
We discuss Norway's electric vehicle advancements, the preparation for the Leadership Conclave, and methods for effective trend spotting, including the Haystack method and scenario planning.
Learn how to spot the next big thing and position yourself for success.SHOWNOTES are here.
Key Quotes
"We can't solve the whole problem with just one part of the problem; we need to think in systems." - Zoe Routh "Leaders must create mental space to uncover insights." - Rohit Bhargava "Embrace the obvious insights; they often hold the key to broader understanding." - Rohit BhargavaQuestions Asked:
What are you paying attention to? How can leaders prepare for emerging trends? What role does creativity play in recognizing patterns?Take Action:
Practice non-obvious thinking by observing everyday trends. Engage in scenario planning to anticipate future developments. Read Rohit Bhargava's book, Non-Obvious Thinking, for deeper insights.Tip of the Week:
Review the collaboration self-checklist - available for subscribers only. Join the community here. You’ll get 40 book summaries and recommendations on Leading Strategy and Performance, along with a special secret audio from my award-winning book, People Stuff.
Key Moments
00:00 Welcome and Weekly Question
00:17 Electric Vehicle Revolution in Norway
01:38 Leadership Conclave Preparation
02:28 Reflecting on the Past and Future
05:43 Introducing Rohit Bhargava
06:50 Discussing Non-Obvious Trends
21:37 Breaking the Rules of Book Publishing
22:54 Time Horizons in Non-Obvious Thinking
25:37 Scenario Planning and Trend Prediction
28:39 The Haystack Method for Pattern Recognition
30:46 Surprising Insights in Non-Obvious Thinking
36:32 The Fast Three: Quickfire Questions
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We explore the transformative potential of kindness in business with Dr. David Cooke, former Managing Director of Konica Minolta Australia. Dr. Cooke shares his journey from traditional hierarchical leadership to a more inclusive, kind approach that drove significant cultural and commercial success. Practical examples and heartfelt stories illustrate how kindness can be a powerful force in achieving both profit and social good. Don't miss out on an inspiring conversation that challenges conventional business practices and offers a vision for a more compassionate future.
#FutureOfLeadership #ESG #KindBusiness #Ethics
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Planet Human:
Neuralink aims to cure blindness
Join us at the Leadership Conclave here.
Summary
The potential future of human augmentation through technological advances like Neuralink.
Zoe shares personal updates:
Upcoming book Olympus Rising (Book 3 of the Gaia Enterprises series).
Nonfiction project Power Games, exploring leadership and ethics.
Ethical questions in leadership, focusing on:
The balance between personal responsibility and system regulation.
Preventing leaders from slipping into unethical behaviors.
Dr. David Cooke reflects on:
Embedding kindness into corporate leadership.
The importance of ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) principles in business.
His experience at Konica Minolta and how kindness-driven leadership leads to business success.
Key Quotes
"What if we started to evaluate businesses on their contribution to social good and not just their accumulation of wealth?" Zoë Routh
"None of them really believe they are the villain. And yet we can show up and have villainous behaviour." Dr David Cooke
"Leadership isn't being aloof and distant. Leadership is working with people." Dr David Cooke
"Once you know, you can't unknow. Once you've seen, you can't unsee." Dr David Cooke
"I just want us all to work together to build a company that cares." Dr David Cooke
Questions Explored
Can kindness really be a force for good in business, or do nice guys finish last?
Will there be two streams of humans, the natural and the amplified humans?
What would society look like if businesses were evaluated on social good?
How do we avoid slipping into unethical behavior while believing we are doing the right thing?
How did kindness as a business philosophy help transform your company?
Take Action
Consider the role of kindness in leadership and how it can positively impact business outcomes.
Engage in big-picture thinking by joining the Leadership Conclave to stay ahead of trends for 2025.
Reflect on how systems within organizations can promote ethical leadership and prevent negative behaviors.
Explore Power Games, Zoe’s upcoming book, for deeper insights on leadership and ethics.
Tip of the Week:
Evaluate your business not just by financial success but by its contributions to social good. This approach, as exemplified by companies like B Corps, can enhance both your company culture and long-term success.Key Moments
00:00 Introduction and Question of the Week
00:20 Neuralink's Ambitious Vision
01:15 Ethical Implications of Amplified Humanity
02:00 Updates from Planet Zoe
02:56 Leadership Conclave and Future Trends
03:54 Evaluating Business for Social Good
04:49 Self-Regulation and System Regulation
06:25 Introducing Dr. David Cooke
08:07 David Cooke on Kind Business
10:53 Challenges in Leadership and Cultural Change
29:11 Seeking Feedback and Leadership Balance
30:27 Implementing Cultural Change
35:15 Addressing Everyday Sexism
39:25 Promoting Ethical Sourcing and Human Rights
43:59 The Power of Kindness in Business
49:15 Fast Three: Quick Insights
52:50 Final Thoughts and Reflections
59:31 Podcast Wrap-Up and Listener Engagement
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About Dr David Cooke
Dr Cooke is the Executive Director of ESG Advisory, a consultancy dedicated to helping organizations challenge their leadership to think more broadly and responsibly about environmental, social, and governance practices. With over 35 years of corporate experience, including serving as Chair and Managing Director of Konica Minolta Australia, David brings a wealth of knowledge to his advisory role.
He is a sought-after speaker and facilitator, offering keynotes, workshops, and panel participation on topics such as Kind Business, Business as a Force for Good, Building Strong Corporate Cultures, Ethical Decision Making, Business and Human Rights, and Fostering Successful Non-profit and For-profit Relationships.
With a deep understanding of how to build strong, engaged corporate cultures and achieve ethical, sustainable business outcomes, Dr David Cooke is a passionate advocate for the values that today's corporate sector needs to embody. His academic credentials, including a Doctor of Business Administration and an MBA, alongside his board and advisory roles across various sectors, bolster his influence in promoting responsible business practices. His contributions to sustainability and responsible leadership were recognized when he was awarded an honorary doctorate by Edith Cowan University in 2022.
David has been invited to speak at the United Nations in New York on Gender Equality and the United Nations in Geneva on Business & Human Rights.
https://www.esgadvisory.com.au/
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Zoë Routh sits down with Christian "Boo" Boucousis, a former fighter pilot turned entrepreneur, to discuss leadership transformation through the lens of the fighter pilot mindset.
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Boo shares his journey of continuous reinvention, from flying jets to founding businesses, and how the disciplined, methodical thinking of a fighter pilot can be applied to leadership and business. Together, they explore how iterative thinking, structured collaboration, and intentional leadership can help leaders create high-performing teams, drive results, and maintain credibility.
👉 Join us at the Leadership Conclave. Canberra, Nov 8th, 2024.
Key Takeaways:
The power of deliberate collaboration and face-to-face interactions in achieving team success.
How to use the plan-brief-execute-debrief cycle to build agility and continuously improve performance.
The importance of credibility and why it takes years to earn but only seconds to lose.
Tip of the Week:
Iterate for Success: Just as fighter pilots improve through continuous iteration, your leadership can evolve by making small, consistent changes. Debrief regularly with your team, reflect on gaps, and make actionable improvements.Key Moments
00:00 Introduction and Main Question
00:42 Neuralink and Brain-Computer Interfaces
02:06 Ethical Challenges of Amplified Humans
02:18 Book Writing and Upcoming Projects
03:25 Ethical Implications and Leadership
07:14 Tea Time with Christian Boo Boucousis
08:27 Boo's Journey from Fighter Pilot to Entrepreneur
19:07 Fighter Pilot Mindset and Leadership
31:24 Diagnosing Business Dysfunction
31:47 The Illusion of Freedom in Business
32:31 The Myth of Overnight Success
33:22 Technology and Dysfunctional Behaviors
34:51 Iterative Planning and Execution
37:33 The Power of Debriefing
41:15 Leadership Traits and Credibility
43:47 Introducing the Afterburner Effect
47:31 The Fast Three Questions
52:04 Finding Your Purpose
54:45 Book Recommendations and Conclusion
#Leadership #FutureOfLeadership #FighterPilotMindset #Collaboration #ChristianBoucousis #ZoeRouth #Afterburner #GrowthMindset
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We dive deep into what it means to be a globally conscious leader with John Lamy. 🌱 John discusses the power of businesses to lead the fight against climate change, balancing profitability with responsibility. From building inner resilience through meditation and personal practices to creating businesses that serve both people and the planet, this episode is packed with insights. 🌏💼
✨ "Businesses can be a force for good while remaining profitable" - John Lamy
Join the conversation and learn how conscious leadership can shape a better world.
Planet Human:
Birth rates are not greater than they were than in 1950, in every country of the world.
Event: Join us at the Leadership Conclave, Nov 8th in Canberra.
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Summary
Conscious Leadership and Inner Practices
John Lamy emphasizes that solving climate change requires more than technical knowledge—it demands inner strength and consciousness. He connects leadership practices such as meditation, journaling, and yoga with building resilience and the emotional resources needed to face the significant challenges ahead.
“You’re going to have to have inner resources... it’s not going to be easy.”Business as a Force for Good
Businesses can be a powerful force in addressing climate change. John advocates for companies to go beyond profit-making and be forces for social and environmental good. He encourages them to maintain integrity, engage employees in sustainability efforts, and foster values alignment with customers.
“Business could be, should be, and can be an actual force to be reckoned with.”Challenges of Changing Mindsets
John discusses how difficult it is to shift the prevailing mindset from profit-first to a more sustainable, globally conscious approach. He stresses that businesses need to own up to their environmental impacts and treat sustainability as a strategic priority.
“Integrity. We’ve got to be honest... you will have expenses you didn’t have previously.”Six Principles of Conscious Leadership
John shares six guiding principles for globally conscious leaders:Love the Earth
Take interconnection to heart
Be kind
Treat all people equally
Respect our life’s journeys
Own our externalities (environmental and social impacts)
These principles emphasize the ethical and moral responsibility leaders have towards people and the planet.“It sounds easy, but we have to raise it to consciousness.”
Practical Steps for Businesses
John offers practical steps for businesses to begin addressing climate change while still remaining profitable, from adopting eco-friendly products and services to engaging employees and customers in sustainability efforts.
“It’s not just the leaders, but also the people who will appreciate a climate-friendly approach.”Key Quotes:
“This is not going to be easy. There’s a lot of pushback... You’re going to have to have inner resources.”
“Businesses can be forces for good. It’s not about sacrificing profits but aligning them with what matters for the future.”
“What do we want for our grandchildren? This is about their future too.”
Questions Explored:
How does leadership consciousness relate to addressing climate change?
Can businesses balance profitability with sustainability, and how?
What principles can guide leaders towards becoming globally conscious?
Take Action:
Reflect on the six principles of conscious leadership in your own workplace.
Implement interior practices like meditation or journaling to build emotional resilience for facing global challenges.
Tip of the Week:
Encourage business leaders to move from a profit-first mindset to a globally conscious leadership model by focusing on sustainability, integrity, and employee engagement.Key Moments
00:00 Introduction and Altruism in Business
00:20 Global Fertility Rates and Social Implications
01:34 Personal and Professional Updates from Zoë
02:23 Olympus Bound: Book Achievements
03:33 Leadership Conclave Announcement
04:46 Daily Questions for Global Consciousness
06:44 Interview with John Lamy: Introduction
07:47 Conscious Leadership and Climate Crisis
12:21 Business as a Force for Good
21:19 Steps to Solve the Climate Crisis
21:51 Principles for a Sustainable Future
22:31 The Importance of Interconnection
23:17 Making Personal Development Okay
25:10 Exploring the Six Principles
29:47 Rapid Fire Questions
34:07 Building a Community of Leaders
38:39 Book Recommendation: For Love and Money
39:55 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action
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Which is more critical, culture or community? With the ever-evolving workplace dynamics, particularly in the era of remote and hybrid work, this episode dives into how leaders can create environments that foster true connection and belonging. Zoë is joined by Lauren Buckley, founder of The Hush Collaborative, who shares her insights on the distinctions between culture and community, and how organizations can move beyond outdated cultural models to build thriving, resilient communities.
*CORRECTION: I introduce Lauren as the founder of The Hush Collective, when it should be HUSH COLLABORATIVE.
Full shownotes:
The Future of Work: Culture or Community
Key Topics Covered:
The future of humanoid robots and their role in society.
Updates on Zoë's latest projects, including her upcoming book "Power Games."
The balance between autonomy and connection in the workplace.
The difference between culture and community in organizational contexts.
How building community can drive better business outcomes and support growth.
Power dynamics, collaboration challenges, and the importance of shared leadership.
Key Quotes:
"Culture requests assimilation. Community requests relationship." — Lauren Buckley
"Collaboration is a skill, but most organizations assume we just inherently know how to do it." — Lauren Buckley
"The biggest shift we need is to move from a power-over model to a power-with model in leadership." — Zoë Routh
Resources Mentioned:
Culture Eats Strategy for Lunch by Kurt Coffman and Kathy Sorenson
Upcoming Leadership Conclave event in Canberra on November 8th
Connect with Us:
Subscribe to the podcast on [iTunes/Spotify].
Visit zoerouth.com for more insights and resources.
Follow Zoë on LinkedIn and Twitter.
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Closing Thought: As Zoë says, "Live with grace, lead in service." Take a moment to reflect on how you can build a sense of community within your organization today.
Questions Explored:
What if the disjointed workplace continues into the future?
How do we balance autonomy and connection in a hybrid work environment?
What's the difference between building culture and building community in organizations?
Take Action:
Reflect on how you can foster genuine community within your organization.
Consider joining our Leadership Conclave event in Canberra on November 8th for an immersive strategic experience. 🌟
Tip of the Week:
Dive into Kurt Coffman and Kathy Sorenson’s book Culture Eats Strategy for Lunch for a deep understanding of how to create a thriving organizational culture. 📚
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Key Moments
00:00 Introduction: Community vs. Culture
00:15 Exploring Humanoid Robots
00:55 Updates from Planet Zoe
02:25 The Disjointed Workplace
03:00 Building Community in the Workplace
04:10 Interview with Lauren Buckley
26:32 Fast 3: Quickfire Questions
29:34 The Hush Collaborative
33:13 Read to Lead: Book Recommendation
35:03 Conclusion and Insider Extras
About Lauren Buckley
Lauren Buckley is the founder of The Hush Collaborative, an organization dedicated to transforming businesses through the power of community. With a background in communications, brand strategy, and political advisory, Lauren brings a wealth of experience in helping organizations navigate complex challenges through innovative and inclusive approaches.
#FutureOfWork #FutureOfLeadership #culture #corporateculture
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I love systems. And I love systems for leadership even more. We want a reliable way of building leadership capability that inoculates against power abuse and tyranny.
How can we embrace new systems to bring leadership alive across the entire organisation? We need a systemic change in how we think about encouraging leadership. It starts with reimagining the geometry of an organization: from triangles we need to move to circles. Then working on expanding the power of the individual.
My guest for T-TOK (Tea Time in the Office Kitchen) is Paul McCarthy, author of The F.I.R.E.D. Leader and he is on a mission to reshape the conversation about , and how we need to shift how we recruit, train, and practice leadership if we are to normalise disruption and survive the era of exponential change.
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Systemic Leadership: Circles Before TrianglesWhy you should listen: how we visualise leadership shapes its outcomes
We must focus on building the capability, autonomy, and delivery capacity of each person. This cellular approach fosters flexibility, responsiveness, and a collaborative spirit essential for modern leadership.
Goretex solutions: Combining individual and collective accountability ensures comprehensive leadership development and system-wide success.
How to normalise disruption instead of dysfunction
Questions Explored:
What are the F.I.R.E.D. leadership attributes we need? (F – Fresh Thinking, I – Inquisitive Nature, R – Real and Accountable, E – Expressive and Challenging, )D – Direct and Transparent
What gets in the way of open honest conversations?
What are the systems that need to change?
Take action
Think about how you exercise power in your organisation: is it top down or bottom up or a mix?
How can you grow the abilities of the people around you?.
Key Moments
00:00 Welcome to the Future of Leadership
00:22 Introducing the Show's Format and Today's Topic
01:09 Planet Human: Contrasting Leadership Examples
03:16 Planet Zoe: Personal Updates and Upcoming Projects
05:54 Exploring Leadership Systems for the Future
10:40 Interview with Paul McCarthy: The Fired Leader
25:42 The Role of Fear in Leadership Games
27:20 The Cost of Leadership Turnover
27:58 Ego-Based Leadership and Its Consequences
28:44 Designing Future Organizations
30:20 Holacracy and Horizontal Leadership
32:19 Overcoming Leadership Challenges
33:00 From Fear to Awakening and Courage
37:11 The Fast Three Questions
42:28 Paul's Vision for Future Leaders
43:56 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
About Paul McCarthy
Paul McCarthy, author of "The Fired Leader." Paul has had a remarkable journey, having been fired from four senior executive roles, which led him to question and ultimately redefine leadership for the future. His insights into fresh thinking, inquisitiveness, being real and accountable, expressive and challenging, and being direct and transparent are invaluable. These qualities, encapsulated in the acronym FIRED, are pivotal for evolving leadership in modern organizations.
https://www.paulmacleadership.com/
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Zoë Routh announces the rebranding of her podcast from 'Zoë Routh Leadership Podcast' to 'The Future of Leadership.' We have a new format, including new artwork, a theme-based approach, practical guest segments called 'T TOK: Tea Time in the Office Kitchen,' and subscriber-only materials.
We finish the final episode with a deep dive into THINKING RITUALS: conscious practices we hold sacrosanct so we can lead better for the future.Become a podcast insider:
You’ll get 40 book summaries and recommendations on Leading Strategy and Performance, along with a special secret audio from my award-winning book, People Stuff.
Sign up here.
SHOWNOTES are here.
Planet Zoë:
Early Bird ending soon 31 July 2024 for, Grace Under Fire
Help me with my research: complete the Power Games Survey - survey closes 31 July 2024
Key Moments
00:00 Introduction and Big Announcement
00:12 Rebranding to 'The Future of Leadership'
00:47 New Podcast Format and Features
02:31 Today's Topic: Thinking Rituals for Future Fit Leadership
03:11 Reflecting on Recent Events
05:28 Personal Updates and Tech Challenges
06:54 Winter Plans and Book Writing
07:39 Power Dynamics and Upcoming Programs
08:51 Exploring Brain-Computer Interfaces
09:49 Thinking Rituals for Effective Leadership
18:01 Read to Lead: Book Recommendations
21:43 Conclusion and Farewell
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How can we be more creative, together? While collaboration has plenty of issues, creative imagining in teams is also challenging. Both are essential skills for the future of leadership: we need to harness as much collective brain power as possible to address future challenges, and find innovative solutions.
Dr. Amy Climer, an experiential educator and creativity specialist and TEDx speaker. Together we explore the process of creative problem-solving and how leaders can implement creativity in their teams by working through the four stages: clarify, ideate, develop, and implement. Amy dispels common myths about creativity, and how we might integrate generative AI tools like ChatGPT in the creative process.
SHOWNOTES are here.
Creativity is an essential leadership skill now and for the future. And it’s not just drawing!
Why you should listen: how creativity is a codified process that follows our natural instincts
The importance of creativity in leadership and team dynamics.
Stages of the creative process: clarify, ideate, develop, implement.
Overcoming creative blocks and fostering a culture of innovation.
We explore future technologies to assist leaders
Using tools like Climer Cards to enhance creativity and team cohesion.
Integrating technology and tools like ChatGPT in the creative process.
Questions Explored:
Why do leaders and teams often overlook creativity?
How can we be more creative together in the workplace?
What are the key elements needed for teams to be creative?
Take action
Reflect on how you can incorporate creativity into your leadership and team dynamics.
Explore ways to foster an environment that encourages innovation and collaboration.
Tip of the week
Creativity is essential for future-fit leadership.
Understanding and using a structured creative process can significantly enhance team innovation.
Tools like Climer Cards and ChatGPT can be valuable aids in sparking creativity.
Key Moments
00:47 Reviving the Woolly Mammoth: Science or Science Fiction?
02:21 Artificial Wombs: The Future of Birth?
03:40 Updates from Planet Zoe: Novels and New Programs
05:49 Creativity and Collaboration in Leadership
06:12 Interview with Amy Clymer: Exploring Creativity in Teams
29:31 Sparking New Ideas Through Imagery
30:14 Overcoming Creativity Blocks
32:16 Leveraging Technology for Creativity
35:42 Using AI in Writing and Creativity
39:35 The Flow Cycle and Creativity
42:40 Fast Five: Quickfire Leadership Insights
50:59 Final Thoughts and Takeaways
Planet Human:
Wooly mammoth being brought back to life
Planet Zoë:
Early Bird closing for Pilot Program 31 July 2024, Grace Under Fire
Help me with my research into Power Games - survey open until 31 July
About Amy Climer
Dr. Amy Climer is a thought leader in innovation, team development, and experiential learning. She teaches research-based practices, tools, and techniques to forward-thinking organizations such as the Mayo Clinic, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and the University of Wisconsin. Amy holds a Ph.D. in Leadership and Change from Antioch University. Her research led to the Deliberate Creative Team Scale, designed to measure the three critical dimensions of team creativity. Her TEDx talk The Power of Deliberate Creative Teams explains her research and philosophies on innovation and her book on this topic will be out in early 2025. Amy is the host of The Deliberate Creative™ Podcast. She is the designer of Climer Cards, a creativity and teambuilding tool used by thousands to deepen conversations and generate ideas. In 2016 she won the Karl Rhonke Creativity Award from the Association for Experiential Education. Amy lives in Asheville, North Carolina in the U.S.
Related episodes on Leadership Creativity
132 Creativity is a leadership skill that you can learn with Kieran Flanagan
208 Leadership skills and creativity with Mark Simmonds
140 The four archetypes of disruptive leadership with author Charlene Li
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Collaboration is HARD. There are leadership maturity hurdles as well as culture and systemic challenges to overcome. As leaders, we need to manage the polarity of individual achievement and collective success. In this way we might overcome power struggles for effective collaboration.
SHOWNOTES are here.
The future of leadership relies on collaboration.
Why you should listen: at the source of power struggles are leadership maturity and systems
The tension is a polarity to manage, not a problem to resolve.
We explore the dynamics of polarity management to mitigate power struggles
Benefits of individual achievement and its cultural roots
Benefits of collective success and its collaboration imperative
Avoid the pitfalls of too much of or the other: it’s not an either/or choice but an AND.
Take action
Make sure your KPIs have both individual and collective measures and results.
Establish rituals for acknowledging individual contributions AND collective outcomes.
Make sure your reporting is transparent for both individuals and the collective.
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Key Moments
00:00 Introduction and Overview
00:26 AI and Health Coaching - Arianna Huffington and Open AI partner for Thrive A.I. Health
03:44 Personal Updates and Projects: Olympus Rising, Power Games, Grace Under Fire
05:42 Challenges in Collaboration
09:40 Balancing Individual and Collective Success: a polarity to manage
18:10 Read to Lead: Book Recommendation - Rohot Baharva’s Non-Obvious Thinking - How to see what others don’t
20:26 Conclusion and Next Week's Preview
Planet Human:
MIT Future self
Planet Zoë:
New Pilot Program: Grace Under Fire
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We welcome author and futurist Louise Mowbray, who shares her profound insights on systems thinking and managing complexity in leadership. Louise delves into the pivotal roles of creativity, curiosity, and compassion in effective leadership, exploring how technology, including AI, can both aid and challenge leaders today.
We also discuss my favourite futurist book, 'Relevant Future Focused Leadership,' and the need for a modern renaissance in the arts. This episode is packed with forward-thinking ideas designed to inspire and equip leaders for the future.
Tune in to expand your leadership toolkit with these invaluable insights.
SHOWNOTES are here.
Key Moments
00:00 Introduction to the Zoe Routh Leadership Podcast
00:29 Exciting Innovations: MIT's Future Self Chatbot
03:13 Personal Updates and Upcoming Projects
05:19 Introducing Louise Mowbray: Future Focused Leadership
07:16 Louise Mowbray's Journey into Futurism
13:12 Understanding Conscious Leadership
23:41 Navigating Complexity and Systems Thinking
34:05 The Power of the Futures Triangle
34:35 AI and Systems Thinking
38:23 The Fast Five Questions
38:34 Future Technologies and Leadership Tips
50:52 The Importance of Ethics in Leadership
58:15 Concluding Thoughts and Takeaways
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In this episode, we sit down with mental health expert Mark Butler to explore critical issues impacting workplaces today. Mark delves into:
Mental Health Challenges in the Workplace: Understanding common issues and their impacts.
Trauma-Informed Leadership: Why it's crucial for modern leaders.
Recent Legislative Changes in Australia: What you need to know.
Strategies to Prevent Burnout: Tips to promote mental well-being.
Emotional Intelligence and Self-Care: Creating supportive environments.
Reducing Mental Health Stigma: Empowering employees to take charge of their well-being.
Tune in for an enlightening discussion on creating healthier, more supportive workplaces.
Shownotes
00:00 Introduction to the Zoe Routh Leadership Podcast
00:29 Exciting Developments in Space Exploration
01:10 Impact of Space Tourism on Business
02:58 Personal Reflections and Upcoming Program
05:18 Introducing Today's Guest: Mark Butler
06:46 Mental Health Responsibilities in the Workplace
15:40 Understanding Burnout: Causes and Responsibilities
24:05 Emotional Intelligence and Burnout Prevention
27:59 Trauma-Informed Leadership
30:59 Workplace Responsibility for Mental Health
32:15 Understanding Burnout and Other Workplace Stressors
35:33 Exploring Moral Injury
38:14 The Fast Five Questions
45:09 The Look In, Look Up, Look Out Model
47:09 The Importance of Boundaries
54:27 Developing Emotional Competence in Leadership
56:55 Conclusion and Upcoming Episodes
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My guest this week is an engineer turned systems productivity expert and author. Lauren Jones is a specialist in continuous improvement and her book, 10% Better, focuses on strategies to improve business processes and performance incrementally. Lauren shares how small, consistent improvements can lead to significant gains over time and how growth in both personal and professional realms can go hand-in-hand.
We talk about the significance of inspiring and empowering people, overcoming the challenges of micromanagement and fostering trust within teams. Lauren’s practical and pragmatic insights will inspire reflection and change - 100%!
Shownotes
See more at http://www.zoerouth.com/podcast/leadership-framework-lauren-jones
Key Moments
Planet Human: GPT is moving on in leaps and bounds - with a new voice feature that is fun to play with!
Planet Zoë: The manuscript for Olympus Rising is complete which is very exciting. My focus now shifts to non-fiction and research for my next leadership book, tentatively titled Power Games.
Lauren Jones' journey into productivity (00:03:26) Lauren Jones' transition from engineering to productivity consulting and her experience in operations management.
The intersection of technical expertise and leadership (00:07:05) The discussion on how technical expertise and systems thinking intersect with leadership and management.
Measuring business improvement (00:12:25) The importance of measuring various aspects of business performance, including quality, customer satisfaction, and financial indicators.
The 10% improvement approach (00:18:16) The steps for achieving a 10% improvement, including inspiring and empowering the team, and tracking progress.
The self-preservation instinct (00:22:00) Discussion about micromanagement, self-focus, and the detrimental impact of self-preservation instinct on leadership and team dynamics.
Changing perspectives (00:23:52) The speaker shares personal examples of changing perspectives on ageism, gender roles, and work-life balance, highlighting the need for challenging and evolving mindsets.
Future of work (00:33:02) Anticipated changes in the workplace, including automation, paperless operations, and a shift towards result-oriented focus rather than hours worked, with a positive outlook on embracing change.
Leadership masterclasses (00:34:47) Introduction of leadership and management masterclasses aimed at emerging leaders, addressing the challenges of transitioning into management roles and the need for formal training.
Insights on business management and improvement (00:37:07) Key takeaways on business management, improvement, and the importance of good systems for delegation, coaching, and trust-building.
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It’s a solosode week and I am delving into the intricacies of leadership and personal development and exploring the idea of feeling stuck. I’ve got four practical steps that will help to get you moving in the right direction.
Feeling stuck is a natural part of the leadership journey, but it doesn't have to be a permanent state. By reframing your mindset, setting clear goals, seeking feedback and support, embracing change, and prioritising self-care, you can navigate through stagnation and become more effective in your role. Remember to live with grace, approaching each challenge with compassion and resilience. Let’s navigate this challenging state together!
Shownotes
See more at http://www.zoerouth.com/podcast/leadership-strategy-stuck-zoe-routh
Key Moments
Planet Human: China’s Change’s-6 spacecraft landed on the dark side of the moon.
Planet Zoë: I’m all about creative reinvention right now! Olympus Rising, which is the third book in the Gaia series, is with the editor. I'm working on my non-fiction book, Power Games and planning the new program, Grace Under Fire.
Tips for Getting Unstuck (00:08:59)
Tips for getting unstuck, including getting visible, being a giver, and leveraging the law of reciprocity.
Getting Visible (00:09:15)
The importance of making yourself known and seen in your community or industry.
Being a Giver (00:10:05)
How contributing to others can create opportunities and build relationships.
Leveraging the Law of Reciprocity (00:11:30)
Understanding how giving can lead to receiving and the benefits of mutual support.
Practical Steps to Implement (00:13:00)
Concrete actions you can take to apply these tips in your daily life.
Personal Stories of Getting Unstuck (00:14:20)
Real-life examples and anecdotes illustrating the effectiveness of these strategies.
Reminder to Live with Grace (00:15:50)
A reminder to live with grace, lead in service, and live well.
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Elias Kanaris joined me to share his incredible journey from his upbringing in Libya to his leadership development work as a CEO. His story is one of influence, resilience, and the power of values instilled early in life. Elias's international background and his ability to navigate cultural nuances offer a rich perspective on leadership that transcends borders.
Elias's experience during the tragic events of 11 September 2001 serves as a stark reminder of the need for adaptability in leadership. Stranded in Gander, Newfoundland, for five days, he learned invaluable lessons about self-care, the importance of community, and the necessity to rewrite the rules in the face of change. His insights are a testament to the strength of the human spirit and the capacity for leaders to emerge stronger from adversity.
Shownotes
See more at http://www.zoerouth.com/podcast/elias-kanaris-leadership-journey
Key Moments
Planet Human: Inspired by Mary Beard’s SPQR The History of Ancient Rome, reflecting on the 2000 year history of Rome and what it tells us about society - and leadership - today. From savagery to community we’ve come a long way!
Planet Zoë: I'm focused on Power Games, which is my next non-fiction book. I'm drilling into what happens at workplaces when we play these power games. And how can we navigate that?
Elias Kanaris' background (00:06:15) Elias Kanaris talks about his upbringing in Libya, values instilled by his parents, and how it led him to leadership.
Elias Kanaris' experience on 9/11 (00:09:46) Elias Kanaris shares his experience of being on a diverted flight during the events of 9/11 and spending five days in Gander, Newfoundland, Canada.
Lessons learned from the experience (00:15:08) Elias Kanaris discusses the lessons he learned during the 9/11 experience, including the importance of self-care, looking after others, and adapting to changing rules.
The power of language and communication (00:18:35) Elias Kanaris talks about the significance of words, shares a study on the impact of positive and negative words, and provides recommendations for leaders to use language wisely.
Filtering Out the Negative (00:22:37) Discussion on the danger of filtering out negative aspects and the need to maintain positivity amidst destruction.
Balanced View of Life (00:23:10) Importance of having a balanced view of life, considering personal faith, and applying transparency to received information.
Emotional Maturity and Forgiveness (00:26:07) Exploration of Nelson Mandela's forgiveness as a reflection of emotional maturity and the impact of forgiveness on personal growth.
The Power of Forgiveness (00:28:42) Discussion on forgiveness, the impact of holding grudges, and the concept of atonement versus forgiveness.
Adapting to Change (00:30:59) Adapting to change, evaluating decisions, and the importance of seeking alternative perspectives and mentorship.
Leadership Insights and Fast Five (00:33:36) Insights on leadership tips, challenges in the workplace, and a fast-paced Q&A session with Elias Kanaris.
Balancing Past Wrongs (00:38:36) Exploration of balancing past wrongs from an indigenous perspective and the need for leaders to accept responsibility for historical failings.
The Power of Forgiveness and Courage (00:39:16) Reflection on the power of forgiveness, separating individuals from their deeds, and the story of Malala Yousafzai as a model of forgiveness and positive focus.
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We are exploring the important but often overlooked art of negotiation with expert Sam Trattles, who shares her journey to loving something that many people hate. We explore Sam’s uniquely Australian APEC method and discuss the nuances of high-stakes negotiations, such as those in international conflicts. Our conversation covers managing emotions, understanding motivations, and the impact of power dynamics. Sam imparts wisdom on engaging with senior leaders and the importance of mindset in seeking fair outcomes. Whether you're navigating boardroom battles or seeking to resolve complex conflicts, this episode is packed with actionable insights that will elevate your negotiation game.
Shownotes
See more at: http://www.zoerouth.com/podcast/leadership-framework-sam-trattles
Key Moments
Planet Human: Exploring the little incremental changes add up to a big change in society - from telehealth and e-scripts to identify theft and proving we are human!
Planet Zoë: Enjoying a period of routine at home before it’s time to hit the powder. Olympus Rising is almost ready to go to the editor and then the focus will be on on Zoë’s first non-fiction book in four and a half years, tentatively called Power Games.
Introduction to Negotiation and Sam Trattles (00:04:32)
Zoë Routh introduces Sam Trattles, an expert in negotiation, and sets the stage for the discussion on negotiation.
Sam Trattles' Journey into Negotiation (00:06:00)
Sam Trattles discusses her background in negotiation and her transition into negotiation training and development.
Corporate Negotiation Experiences (00:07:42)
Sam shares her experiences negotiating contracts, sponsorships, and leadership challenges in corporate roles.
The Enjoyment of Negotiation and Healthy Debate (00:08:30)
Sam explains her love for problem-solving and the importance of healthy debate in negotiation.
The APEC Method of Negotiation (00:12:36)
Introducing the APEC method, emphasising the significance of preparation and the steps involved in the negotiation process.
Complex Negotiations (00:19:28)
Discussion on handling high-stakes, complex negotiations with different ideologies and emotional baggage.
Dealing with Difficult People (00:20:10)
Considerations for negotiating with difficult individuals, understanding motivations, and seeking fair outcomes.
Emotions in Negotiation (00:22:24)
Addressing emotional influences in negotiations, managing emotions, and facilitating problem-solving.
Managing Emotions in Negotiations (00:26:54)
Strategies for managing emotions in difficult conversations and high-stakes negotiations.
Power Dynamics in Negotiations (00:28:33)
Exploring real versus perceived power, and strategies for cutting through power dynamics in negotiations.
Negotiation Mindset (00:36:15)
Encouraging a change in mindset by reframing negotiation as conversations and consciously observing negotiation opportunities.
Emotional Aikido Skills (00:39:44)
Explanation of five emotional aikido skills to manage emotions during high-tension situations in negotiation.
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This is a profound conversation with Paul Glover, an ex-lawyer and leadership legacy coach, who shares his remarkable journey from incarceration, after being indicted by a federal grand jury on 33 counts of corruption, to redemption. Paul’s time in prison was a period of intense self-reflection and transformation, driven by a commitment to his family and a desire to become a better person. Emerging from the addictive “dark and grubby and greedy and vile” underworld Paul was confronted with dismantling his own ego in the pursuit of forgiveness.
We delve into the importance of ethics, the power of humility and simple gratitude, and the role of support systems in personal growth. Paul’s candid leadership insights emphasise the need for self-reflection, accountability, and ethical decision-making frameworks and offers invaluable lessons for us all.
Shownotes
See more at http://www.zoerouth.com/podcast/leadership-journey-paul-glover
Key Moments
Planet Human: A quick look at the fascinating concept of digital twins and AI technology as Reid Hoffman interviews ‘himself’! This is a theme that resonates deeply with my novels - imagine the possibilities and challenges as we interact with digital replicas of ourselves!
Planet Zoë: I'm bursting with excitement to share that my upcoming novel, Olympus Rising is nearing completion. If you're seeking a gripping tale that intertwines with leadership and the future, keep your eyes peeled for its release. In the meantime catch up with The Olympus Project, Olympus Bound and grab the prequel novella Terra Blanca for free.
Paul Glover's journey and challenges (00:05:01)
Paul discusses his journey from being a trial attorney to getting involved in criminal activities and the impact on his life.
Life in prison and aftermath (00:07:20)
Paul shares the devastating impact of his imprisonment on his family and the emotional turmoil he faced.
Self-reflection and transformation (00:09:16)
Commitment to change, self-reflection, and the support Paul received from his wife during his transformation.
Taming the ego and ethics (00:13:34)
The role of ego in unethical behaviour and the importance of self-reflection.
Insights on ethics and the law (00:16:09)
Paul shares his perspective on ethics and the law, emphasising the importance of making black and white ethical decisions.
Breaking free of ego and echo chamber (00:21:53)
Zoe and Paul discuss breaking down the ego conversation justifying poor behaviour and breaking free from the echo chamber.
Self-Reflection and Responsibility (00:22:29)
Paul discusses the importance of creating one's self-image and the necessity of self-reflection for personal growth and transformation.
Support and Environment (00:25:00)
The impact of a supportive environment on individuals post-incarceration and the difficult choice of seeking and accepting support.
Continuous Atonement and Gratitude (00:27:04)
Paul emphasises the ongoing commitment to atonement and the practice of daily gratitude as part of his personal growth and transformation.
Challenges in Reintegration (00:29:20)
The challenges of finding employment post-release and the subsequent transition to coaching within distribution and manufacturing.
Corporate Culture and Leadership (00:33:21)
Insights on the shift in corporate culture post-pandemic and the need for a human-centric approach to leadership and team sustainability.
Power and Toxic Leadership (00:36:01)
Reflections on the destructive nature of power, the importance of humility in leaders, and the pressures that lead to toxic behaviour.
Future Technology and Leadership (00:38:26)
Paul's fascination with artificial intelligence and the anticipated shift in leadership roles from managerial to coaching and mentoring.
The impact of environment and support (00:45:05)
Discussion on the influence of environment and support on individuals' ability to break free from negative consequences and the need for new environments and support systems.
The relationship between power and humility (00:45:05)
Exploration of the relationship between power and humility, and the importance of humility, curiosity, and compassion in leadership.
The role of the fool in leadership (00:46:21)
The significance of having someone who can provide honest feedback and speak truth to power in leadership, drawing from the mediaeval concept of the fool.
Ethical decision-making framework (00:46:21)
Explanation of the "meaning, magnitude, and measure" framework for making ethical decisions, with a focus on consequences, universal principles, and values.
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Ever wondered how a spy hones the skill to read people with precision? Our guest this week shares his riveting journey from the military to mastering human intelligence. Retired spy and a three-time award-winning speaker, JJ Brun's story is not just about espionage; it's a masterclass in understanding human dynamics that every leader can learn from. JJ's expertise in the DiSC® model offers a fascinating lens to decode how people think and act. His insights into behavioural traits and communication styles are invaluable for anyone looking to navigate the complex world of leadership and personal development. JJ even puts your host under the microscope, assessing my behavioural traits using the DISC model. As a DiSC practitioner myself, it was an enlightening experience!
Shownotes
See more at: http://www.zoerouth.com/podcast/leadership-dynamics-brun
Key Moments
Planet Human: I’ve been watching Netflix show 3 Body Problem which sent me down a rabbit hole about the Fermi paradox. It is the identification that there is a high likelihood of existence of life somewhere out there in the universe. Fascinating stuff!
Planet Zoë: If you are in Canberra on 30 May consider coming along to my in-person book launch for Olympus Bound. It’s going to be a fun celebration at the Shine Dome - it’s free to attend, details and registration here
JJ Brun's Journey to Becoming a Spy (00:05:43) JJ Brun shares his unexpected path to becoming a spy and his experiences in the military.
Spy School Experience in the UK (00:09:50) JJ Brun recounts his surreal and challenging experience at a spy school in the UK.
Understanding Self and Personal Traits (00:17:01) JJ Brun discusses his self-discovery and understanding of his traits in relation to his career as a spy.
Sharing Knowledge and Mission (00:20:45) JJ Brun emphasises the importance of self-awareness and sharing knowledge for personal and professional growth.
Decoding Human Capital (00:21:52) Discussion on decoding human capital, understanding pace and priority perspectives, and identifying leadership styles.
Understanding Leadership Styles (00:24:02) Explanation of the four leadership styles and how leaders adapt their style to the environment for effective leadership.
Personality Insights and Archetypes (00:27:13) Exploration of personality insights, style blends, and how hobbies can provide clues to preferred communication style. Brief mention of archetypes.
Spying and Intelligence Work (00:32:31) Insights into the life of an intelligence officer, including building rapport, understanding and discerning human behaviour, and experiences in the field.
Building Relationships in Espionage (00:39:42) A detailed case study of building a relationship with a challenging individual, using communication styles to navigate interactions, and learning to ask quality questions.
Feel Good Icebreaking Questions (00:42:47) JJ Brun discusses the importance of memorising effective icebreaking questions and shares his mentor's influence.
Personal Branding (00:43:40) JJ Brun explains how he branded himself as a retired spy and the importance of brand identity.
Spy Museum Experience (00:46:20) JJ Brun shares his experience at a spy museum and the branding ideas he gained from it.
Challenge Coin Business Card (00:47:33) JJ Brun discusses his unique business card and its military background.
Fast Five Q&A (00:48:39) Zoë Routh asks JJ Brun five rapid-fire questions on future technology, leadership, workplace problems, leaders, and favourite leadership book or podcast.
Misconceptions About Spying (00:51:37) JJ Brun addresses misconceptions about spying and emphasises the difference between reality and Hollywood portrayals.
Balancing Archetypes (00:54:51) Zoë Routh discusses the importance of balancing archetypes for leadership and team growth.
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